Retreads, cheap fun or death?

[Matty852]

Hey guys, I've just been on the hunt for some cheap muddies to get out and about, I wouldn't normally even consider running retreads but since cash is running a little bit thin lately with other repairs I am doing I found a set on eBay and wondering if it is even worth the hassle of getting a set of retreads?

[AB]

A lot of people have had success and I have heard some shocker stories too.

It will always be on your mind too so if money permits or even save up mate and do it properly in my opinion.


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[threedogs]

I've used "re-moulded" Mongrels cause they were cheap, all de-laminated so ended up costing me more.
if you cant afford to run 2 sets there are some great all terrains out there ATM

[lhurley]

try find a decent 2nd hand set. Good deals pop up fairly often

[meh]

Try the facbook swap/sell pages they are always selling off tyres and rims for some times decent prices.
I wouldnt trust re-treads personally as my family is precious cargo last thing I want is a blow out and some one getting injured.


I run a decent set of A/T and they get me everywhere my mates go who all have muddies

[ova50]

The way retreads are done hasn't altered much over time. You basically will have either a "hot cap" or a "cold cap" retread.
Another is a re-mold (this is still a retread but is done from bead to bead, not just "capped)
Most tyre manufacturers do not recommend retreading their cases.

Most common cause of retread failure is the old case fails, then the tread follows suite. ( its hard to know what sort of life the case has had in its previous life).
Also the material used is not like a new tyre, apart from handling and braking issues, there is the mileage factor. Retreads will often only give you half the mileage compared to a new tyre.
I would prefer a 2nd hand tyre than a retread.

[P4trol]

I see the op is in Darwin. I know what you are up against. Tyre sellers that won't budge below $495 each for Bfg muddies.

Delamination is serious. I'm sure someone has a good story here about the damage it can cause. Retreads are high candidates for Delamination in the top end.

Me personally, I went for summit mud hog. 1350 delivered for 5. (freight $250). Almost half price for 5x Bfg muddies at 495 ea. Of course time will tell whether these are any good up here.

[Matty852]

I see the op is in Darwin. I know what you are up against. Tyre sellers that won't budge below $495 each for Bfg muddies.

Delamination is serious. I'm sure someone has a good story here about the damage it can cause. Retreads are high candidates for Delamination in the top end.

Me personally, I went for summit mud hog. 1350 delivered for 5. (freight $250). Almost half price for 5x Bfg muddies at 495 ea. Of course time will tell whether these are any good up here.

Where abouts did you manage to find those?

[P4trol]

Murrumbeena competition tyres in Melbourne.

Found via ebay, but ring them direct.

This is not a recommendation - as I haven't received them yet. I beat them back a bit on the freight, as I rang a company with a depot in town, and they gave me a better price, and the tyre company matched it.

Even better if you have a mate coming up from Melbourne.

[Matty852]

Ahhh ok, I will have I keep an eye out, I'm starting to accept the fact I will just have to wait a bit until I can afford the Darwin tax and buy them up here

[lhurley]

Try Don Cornell's in sydney. They shipped them to me for free. I paid $300 each for bfg km2s

[Matty852]

Cheers mate, I will check then out now

[Matty852]

Has anyone delt with Bridgestone D674 duellers?

[Fozzee63]

I'm also so against retreads they cost ya more in the long run , Side wall ply also is another thought especially if ya going off road lots.

Tread wear rating is written on most 4x4 tyres so a tyre’s tread wear is measured under controlled conditions involving an 11,500 km drive on a specified test course, and compared to a ‘standard’ tyre with a rating of 100.

A rating of 200 indicates that the tested tyre should last twice as long as the standard model. So the higher the number, the longer you can expect a tyre to last. 650 is the highest reading

[davo82]

retreads are good for trailers but that's about all there good for and maybe be even for a spare just to get you home but running retreads on a daily driver is not a good idea

[GU_Mudstar]

ive heard of one case where the tire started to peel off after 6 months use, after speaking to a local tire place, cant remember too much, but just a FYI, majority of trucks on the freeway use retreads, cause its cheaper to do so, BUT in saying so, they only use them on the rears only, same deal with air crafts, i guess has something to do with too much strain on the turning wheel, causing peeling

personally i wouldnt touch re-treads

[threedogs]

ive heard of one case where the tire started to peel off after 6 months use, after speaking to a local tire place, cant remember too much, but just a FYI, majority of trucks on the freeway use retreads, cause its cheaper to do so, BUT in saying so, they only use them on the rears only, same deal with air crafts, i guess has something to do with too much strain on the turning wheel, causing peeling

personally i wouldnt touch re-treads

Don't trucks use re moulded tyres, any case Im not risking the lives of my passengers with "retreads" Full stop

[Bloodyaussie]

Truck rarely use retreads anymore as it does not pay... the price of tyres has come down a lot for trucks and the time lost on the freeway stuffing about with treads flying off far outways the cost of putting proper tyres on.

This is from a conversation I was having the other week with an owner of a trucking company with 10 trucks in his fleet.... so if I am wrong its cause I am a sucker.. bwa !!!!!!!

[catchinjack]

Personally I believe ALL retreads should be banned. Hitting a truck retread carcass in middle of night at 100km/h is not fun.

[Matty852]

Problem solved for now, I got a set of Bridgestone D674 duellers fitter for now until the bank recovers from everything else