New Quote Re Lockers

[Gary Vansleve]

Just a follow up on quotes regarding lockers for the ute. as stated in post with title of Detroit marched off today to get a formalised quote from ARB to supply and fit lockers to front and rear of the ute.

First up I have to fess up to a blue on the price quoted from ARB when originally advising the forum. The price I originally first advised was $4304 but when in fact it should have been $4183.00.

Well anyway the formal quote now reads $3794.00. Also in addition they upgraded the compressor to a medium one (their words) so I can pump up tyres. They also added the pump up kit (once again their words) a tyres deflator PSI guage, a tyre inflator with guage and a speedy seal puncture repair kit. They also fit an supply new carrier bearings front an rear but no pinion bearings. Funny thing TJM and Opposite Lock do the same thing no pinion bearings huh

Apparently this is some sort of promotional deal to flog off their lockers. The sales dude said I was lucky to show up when I did bla bla bla.

So now this is the lowest quote an in addition I can also have a compressor to inflate tyres which I currently don't have.

Now to the thing I hate most deciding on which lockers would have to be the worlds worst procrastinator. In my humble opinion my only fault gee what a tosser.:o:o

[Stropp]

Yeh the arb sound tempting but the Eatons can be wire twisted back together the air lines can't. Good luck with your decision.

[gec]

Yeh the arb sound tempting but the Eatons can be wire twisted back together the air lines can't. Good luck with your decision.

Yep, but you can buy an airline repair kit to chuck in the tool box.

[BigRAWesty]

Walk in and them tell they have your cash, if they put the large compressor in...
See what they say..

[threedogs]

have you been to TJM for a quote on a set of Pro-Lockers,
Im sure it would be cheaper than $4300 and a better locker IMO

[Gary Vansleve]

Yep TJM came in at $3946.07.

At the end of the day I don't think you could go wrong pickin any of them as long as the outfit you pick does a good installation of their product. Must admit I am a bit perturb as to why none of them do the pinion bearings as part of the fit.

[nissannewby]

Yep TJM came in at $3946.07.

At the end of the day I don't think you could go wrong pickin any of them as long as the outfit you pick does a good installation of their product. Must admit I am a bit perturb as to why none of them do the pinion bearings as part of the fit.

It's cos it's easier for them. If they did the pinion bearing then the centre would prob have to go to a diff specialist to get the backlash and contact pattern set up correctly. They just mark everything before the pull it apart put new bearings in and realign said marks. Its kinda guessing but works ok. If you were really unsure then purchasing the lockers by themselves and getting a diff shop to change all bearings at the same time wouldn't be a bad idea

[threedogs]

Yeh the arb sound tempting but the Eatons can be wire twisted back together the air lines can't. Good luck with your decision.

Its nothing to carry a length of 6mm Teflon tubing, its all just push fit fittings these days not so much an olive set up of old

[93patrol]

who ever supplies FREE beer with the fitting would be the winna for me

[Gary Vansleve]

It's cos it's easier for them. If they did the pinion bearing then the centre would prob have to go to a diff specialist to get the backlash and contact pattern set up correctly. They just mark everything before the pull it apart put new bearings in and realign said marks. Its kinda guessing but works ok. If you were really unsure then purchasing the lockers by themselves and getting a diff shop to change all bearings at the same time wouldn't be a bad idea

I had a sneaky suspicion this may be the case I wonder if getting a diff shop to fit up would affect the warranty offered by ARB. All three locker mobs were very hazy when I brought this up. Admittedly I was only talkin to the sales reps of the stores.

Seems a dick way of doin the install what if the pinion bearins were on their way out. If they fail after install where do you go keepin the warranty issues in mind. Fruck me

[93patrol]

take it back to the installer and tell them to sort it or you'll give them the bill from a proper driveline mechanic. maybe check the fine print with all their warrenty stuff make sure your arse is covered by consumer protection as well or take them to that ABC show The Checkout

[BigRAWesty]

Ring head quarters for each and speak direct to claims department.
This way you will get solid answers from people who's job it is to know..

[healy]

Not sure if you have thought about E Lockers but I got a quote for a mate couple of months ago from a place in dandenong not sure if thats near you.

[89gqpatrol4x4]

It's cos it's easier for them. If they did the pinion bearing then the centre would prob have to go to a diff specialist to get the backlash and contact pattern set up correctly. They just mark everything before the pull it apart put new bearings in and realign said marks. Its kinda guessing but works ok. If you were really unsure then purchasing the lockers by themselves and getting a diff shop to change all bearings at the same time wouldn't be a bad idea

When I had mine fitted they sent it away and had the backlash sorted.

[Drewboyaus]

Not sure if you have thought about E Lockers but I got a quote for a mate couple of months ago from a place in dandenong not sure if thats near you.

Good price Healy.

[healy]

Good price Healy.

Yeah I thought so spewing its not something ill ever be able to afford. But I suppose it suits the supercharged gen3 he has installed with the 37's

Just noticed theres ment to be 2 photos there not sure what happened. Natrad is the company.

[Gary Vansleve]

Must admit I am startin to look at the ARB as the successful contender. Gunna see em tomorrow to see if they will do pinion bearings at least for the rear as part of the deal and also the warranty situation. Reckon that will decide it for me.

Fruck I made a descision I think.:biggrin::biggrin:

[love ke70]

BEfore you make that decision...
my brother in law worked for ARB, he drove his truck for a week and the quad rings started leaking.

I put 35,000 on mine and the quad rings started leaking.

the quad ring seals the locker off from the rest of the diff, so it stops air getting out, and oil getting in.
these go around the axle, so the rear is a constant wear item, just like a diff seal, only is a double edged Oring. and they WILL wear, and you WILL be pulling centres out to change quad rings to stop oil pouring out the exhaust of the locker solenoid.

They say engaging and disengaging lockers daily will help?? not sure how.
buttt, its not gonna stop that axle spinning on that o-ring is it...
other people may have other beliefs, but that is my personal experience.
time will tell how good I need to get at pulling the frucking heavy centres out lol

Cheers, Andy

[Gary Vansleve]

BEfore you make that decision...
my brother in law worked for ARB, he drove his truck for a week and the quad rings started leaking.

I put 35,000 on mine and the quad rings started leaking.

the quad ring seals the locker off from the rest of the diff, so it stops air getting out, and oil getting in.
these go around the axle, so the rear is a constant wear item, just like a diff seal, only is a double edged Oring. and they WILL wear, and you WILL be pulling centres out to change quad rings to stop oil pouring out the exhaust of the locker solenoid.

They say engaging and disengaging lockers daily will help?? not sure how.
buttt, its not gonna stop that axle spinning on that o-ring is it...
other people may have other beliefs, but that is my personal experience.
time will tell how good I need to get at pulling the frucking heavy centres out lol

Cheers, Andy

I take it the quad ring is the new version of the old O ring. I have a 40 series cruiser with the leakin rear air locker will have to pull the centre an do the o rings. Have been gettin away with just disconnecting an blowin air through the line. But now gettin worse only lasts for about 30 k.

[love ke70]

Yeah, they are meant to be tougher nitrile and a different shape and last longer.

[threedogs]

that must be the cause of the oil smell inside the cabin,
something the Pro-locker wont do, all the guys I know with comp trucks
removed and relaced all ARB lockers and re fitted Prolockers.

[rkinsey]

I had a sneaky suspicion this may be the case I wonder if getting a diff shop to fit up would affect the warranty offered by ARB. All three locker mobs were very hazy when I brought this up. Admittedly I was only talkin to the sales reps of the stores.

Seems a dick way of doin the install what if the pinion bearins were on their way out. If they fail after install where do you go keepin the warranty issues in mind. Fruck me

The Trade Practices Act is a saftey net for this very type of issue. If you were to purchase the locker kit from one manufacturer and have them installed by another company. Both scenarios are covered under an "implied warranty".

That is to say that the manufacturer of the product is liable to repair or replace a product should it fail within a reasonable amount of time from when the product was purchased so long as the failure is caused by a manufacturing fault.

If the failure was caused due to customer error then no warranty can be claimed against the manufacturer.

If the failure was caused by the installation process then the installer is obliged to repair or replace the product.

http://www.consumerlaw.gov.au/content/the_acl/downloads/consumer_guarantees_guide.pdf

http://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/consumer-rights-guarantees

http://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/consumer-rights-guarantees/repair-replace-refund

http://www.accc.gov.au/business/treating-customers-fairly/warranties/warranties-against-defects

Cheers,

Rob

[love ke70]

that must be the cause of the oil smell inside the cabin,
something the Pro-locker wont do, all the guys I know with comp trucks
removed and relaced all ARB lockers and re fitted Prolockers.

Yeah, better off mounting them outside the cabin
why does the prolocker not have the same issue? They must still have to seal oil out of the air?

[love ke70]

The Trade Practices Act is a saftey net for this very type of issue. If you were to purchase the locker kit from one manufacturer and have them installed by another company. Both scenarios are covered under an "implied warranty".

That is to say that the manufacturer of the product is liable to repair or replace a product should it fail within a reasonable amount of time from when the product was purchased so long as the failure is caused by a manufacturing fault.

If the failure was caused due to customer error then no warranty can be claimed against the manufacturer.

If the failure was caused by the installation process then the installer is obliged to repair or replace the product.

http://www.consumerlaw.gov.au/content/the_acl/downloads/consumer_guarantees_guide.pdf

http://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/consumer-rights-guarantees

http://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/consumer-rights-guarantees/repair-replace-refund

http://www.accc.gov.au/business/treating-customers-fairly/warranties/warranties-against-defects

Cheers,

Rob

And when this happens it tends to turn into a massive finger pointing shit fight lol