More flex with 2" GU OME lift on GQ or start again?

[AB]

Hi gents,

Well the time has come...lol

I'm at the point where I am not enjoying my set up one bit and I think I made a mistake.

I have the GU OME 2" lift (almost 3" on the GQ) and at the time of purchase my vehicle was stock as a rock.

I was advised to harden it up a bit because of the future mods that are now there such as bull bar, winch, rear drawers and a few other goodies which I expected would soften it up but no.

My entire set up is too hard and to be honest I don't have a great deal of flex (always lifting wheels), It's hard as a rock and now that I'm doing a lot more rock climbing and wanting to get myself into more difficult tracks It's just not working.

After my set of Federals are finished I am going to get 35" BF's and be done with it which is another issue with my current set up too, however...

Is it worth trying to improve what I have by adding flexi coils, radius arms, etc or start fresh with a complete new set up coils and shocks and????

I don't mind spending some $$$ when the time comes but I am a little disappointed considering the 2" GU OME I have is fairly new, in fact It's probably only done 15k max and already replaced one shock which is brand new as well. I hate wasting money!!!

How much would I get for the OME on Ebay...Peanuts?

Might be a bit hard for answers without seeing the car in person and how limited it is but where I want to be and the tracks I want to do, my current set up is no good...

I want quality and don't mind spending money on the right set up this time or the right mods needed, etc....

[Bloodyaussie]

You must have hated seeing my car flexing. ....

You know the advice is going to come thick and fast from everyone.

[AB]

You must have hated seeing my car flexing. ....

You know the advice is going to come thick and fast from everyone.

I know, I know...I'm interested to hear different opinions though. Yeah It's becoming a bit dangerous in some of the things I am doing these days.

[Ben-e-boy]

how is it becoming dangerous?

[nissannewby]

If you want more flex and a better ride start again.

[AB]

how is it becoming dangerous?

Well dangerous is a bold comment...lol...Nah I'm finding the rear wheels lifting a lot, loosing traction on climbing and descending all the time in situations where you want all four wheels on the ground.

[liftlid]

Change shocks if you want a better ride,
Taller springs if you need to fit bigger rubber.
Install proper lockers if you want it to feel more secure driving down hill.
Try driving some of the other blokes cars with different shocks and springs.
Not a big fan of flexi coils as they clunk a lot and the small coils can break though I have some in mine.

[MudRunnerTD]

Don't be disappointed mate, your driving and experience has evolved. You had a good run with them but now potentially driving out of the setup.

You would get a reasonable price for the lift I think? Did OME replace the blown shock under warranty mate? The GU lift is a little heavier on the GQ for sure. Mego might even be interested in your setup mate??

If your happy to spend a little bit more then I can certainly recommend the Superiors Springs and Amada shocks I have now. You might go to a 3" lift too in preparation for your future upgrades. Spring tower bracing while your there.

Do you have a body lift?

[AB]

Don't be disappointed mate, your driving and experience has evolved. You had a good run with them but now potentially driving out of the setup.

You would get a reasonable price for the lift I think? Did OME replace the blown shock under warranty mate? The GU lift is a little heavier on the GQ for sure. Mego might even be interested in your setup mate??

If your happy to spend a little bit more then I can certainly recommend the Superiors Springs and Amada shocks I have now. You might go to a 3" lift too in preparation for your future upgrades. Spring tower bracing while your there.

Do you have a body lift?

Hey mate, yeah it was under warranty and replaced for free by ARB in Kilsyth.

More than happy to spend the coin so I'll check out your suggestion!

No body lift.

[BigRAWesty]

Was wondering myself if that style of tower brace will fit MR without a body lift??
There looks to be room there for it..
Something I'm doing sooner than later..

[MudRunnerTD]

Was wondering myself if that style of tower brace will fit MR without a body lift??
There looks to be room there for it..
Something I'm doing sooner than later..

No it wont fit without a Body Lift. you would need to buy their Bolt In Brace kit.

[BigRAWesty]

No it wont fit without a Body Lift. you would need to buy their Bolt In Brace kit.

Ffs... Lol. Just got rid of the body lift

[AB]

Wow...

Just been chatting on PM with Matty and Dazz and have come up with a nice wish list.

Benny or anyone else may have some other suggestions???

So, I'm after this kit....http://www.superiorengineering.com.a...oducts_id=7679 (http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=31_32_33_179&products_id=7679)

But swap the drop arms for the Superiors - Hybrid Drop arms (http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=31_32_33_178&products_id=20311)

Swap one of the adjustable upper arms for the bent adjustable arm (http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=21191) for my aux tank

Get Standard length HD Lower Trailing arms (http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=31_32_33_178&products_id=853)

Superior Engineering Superflex Swaybar Kit

Bump stops

I just need money and I am all set...LMAO

[BigRAWesty]

Do you need drop out cones and retainers??

[nissannewby]

Long arms!!!! You will need to modify bump stops once you have sussed your shock lengths.

[Ben-e-boy]

Benny or anyone else may have some other suggestions???

So, I'm after this kit....http://www.superiorengineering.com.a...oducts_id=7679 (http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=31_32_33_179&products_id=7679)

But swap the drop arms for the Superiors - Hybrid Drop arms (http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=31_32_33_178&products_id=20311)

Swap one of the adjustable upper arms for the bent adjustable arm (http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=21191) for my aux tank

Get Standard length HD Lower Trailing arms (http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=31_32_33_178&products_id=853)

Bump stops needed?

I just need money and I am all set...LMAO

I dont know anything about suspension
Except get longarms and be done with it

[Bloodyaussie]

Does it all have to be Superior engineering....... do you have a hard on for that company.. oh wait Daz does!!

I got a lot of my stuff locally and also got trade price on a lot of it... the only superior engineering I have I got from Daz 2nd hand.

[AB]

Does it all have to be Superior engineering....... do you have a hard on for that company.. oh wait Daz does!!

I got a lot of my stuff locally and also got trade price on a lot of it... the only superior engineering I have I got from Daz 2nd hand.

I do feel a tingle down stairs that's for sure...lol

Basically this car will never be sold and I just want everything to be spot on and quality ++++


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[MudRunnerTD]

Does it all have to be Superior engineering....... do you have a hard on for that company.. oh wait Daz does!!

I got a lot of my stuff locally and also got trade price on a lot of it... the only superior engineering I have I got from Daz 2nd hand.


You could look hard and maybe find another product, Australian Made for a similar price and build a kit you want. But Superiors are using state of the art 4340 Chromoly everything, you might save some cash going to Roadsafe but there s not that much in terms of the 4340 components there.

The Armadaextremes and the the Cols for the win. Shop around if you like for the rest bit by bit. Or hit them for a bulk order and expect a balance kit tuned to your car. They say on their site that upon purchase they will contact you directly to discuss the right coils for your car.

I am stoked with my setup and rate all their gear very very highly. Feel free to use whatever though. Superiors for me. Superiors for my GQ because I want the best. Superiors for my GUIV because in the Outback there is No Room for Second best.

It's the sh1t!!!!

[Drewboyaus]

So can you fit 35's under a 3 inch lift? Or do you have to lift the body/chop guards to fit?

[Ben-e-boy]

You could look hard and maybe find another product, Australian Made for a similar price and build a kit you want. But Superiors are using state of the art 4340 Chromoly everything, you might save some cash going to Roadsafe but there s not that much in terms of the 4340 components there.

The Armadaextremes and the the Cols for the win. Shop around if you like for the rest bit by bit. Or hit them for a bulk order and expect a balance kit tuned to your car. They say on their site that upon purchase they will contact you directly to discuss the right coils for your car.

I am stoked with my setup and rate all their gear very very highly. Feel free to use whatever though. Superiors for me. Superiors for my GQ because I want the best. Superiors for my GUIV because in the Outback there is No Room for Second best.

It's the sh1t!!!!

But you still don't have long arms :p :p :p :p :p :clapping::harhar::harhar::harhar::harhar::harhar:

Sorry you left that one wide open :p :smileyvault-cute-bi

[89gqpatrol4x4]

Was wondering myself if that style of tower brace will fit MR without a body lift??
There looks to be room there for it..
Something I'm doing sooner than later..

I asked that same question in a thread only about 3 months ago, not much helpful info come through though

[TPC]

Looks like you are up for a bit of money, you should start making and selling rooftop bags to pay for it all.

[Ben-e-boy]

So can you fit 35's under a 3 inch lift? Or do you have to lift the body/chop guards to fit?

Chop the guards, you should be able to get away with only trimming the back of the wheel arch

[AB]

Would probably only rub on the back of each arch. Rear quarter chop and slight bending back of the front arches on the rear and it should be ok.

I'm throwing rosscos 35's on my car which is about 2.5" lift soon and will take photos and report back.


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[AB]

Looks like you are up for a bit of money, you should start making and selling rooftop bags to pay for it all.

I was actually thinking of selling the Toyota god bless it...lol


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[89gqpatrol4x4]

So can you fit 35's under a 3 inch lift? Or do you have to lift the body/chop guards to fit?

I have worn 35 centipedes and they fit on a 3 inch lift. I have now done a quarter chop and while I was there took about 30 mm of the back of the rear aswell so a brand new 35 centipede will fit under full flex. The front works now on worn ones but I don't think brand new ones will. Having said that I but a worn centipede next to a mates brand new 35 federal couragia and his tyre was only a bee's d#ck bigger. So It might depend on what tyre you run.

[megatexture]

I've just welded in drop out cones and bolted in coil retainers last week and im about to get some armada extreme for the rear of my gu next week. But I'm sticking with 2" coils. And later I'm going to focus on the front as funds permit.

But I'll let you know how It goes when I'm done.

[MEGOMONSTER]

I was actually thinking of selling the Toyota god bless it...lol


I'll swap you a packet of smokes.

[AB]

I'll swap you a packet of smokes.

Dunhill blue or pj?


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[MEGOMONSTER]

Dunhill blue or pj?


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Dunhill Navy Fine Cut

[Drewboyaus]

Dunhill Navy Fine Cut

Gotta be worth at least Winnie Reds......

[TPC]

I was actually thinking of selling the Toyota god bless it...lol


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I will swap you a Tricycle and Little Red Cart so you can use them around your property to collect firewood.
The photos are just an example, the ones I have are chipped and dented but still in good condition.

[AB]

I will swap you a Tricycle and Little Red Cart so you can use them around your property to collect firewood.
The photos are just an example, the ones I have are chipped and dented but still in good condition.

Hmmm tempting I must say. Does it have a bell and will you deliver?


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[Drewboyaus]

I've just welded in drop out cones and bolted in coil retainers last week and im about to get some armada extreme for the rear of my gu next week. But I'm sticking with 2" coils. And later I'm going to focus on the front as funds permit.

But I'll let you know how It goes when I'm done.

What length shock are you going with? Be interested to hear how you go. I have the same 2" GU lift as AB so it's closer to 3" but am keen to get some more flex from it while still remaining in the "legal" zone........and there is no way I could drop $5K on suspension ATM.

[AB]

What length shock are you going with? Be interested to hear how you go. I have the same 2" GU lift as AB so it's closer to 3" but am keen to get some more flex from it while still remaining in the "legal" zone........and there is no way I could drop $5K on suspension ATM.

Neither can I but if I sell the yota for 1k, sell some more bags and get my ass into gear to market it better rather than here and sell a kidney I reckon I can make it happen!!!


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[TPC]

Hmmm tempting I must say. Does it have a bell and will you deliver?


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I took the bell off because the kids kept ringing it but I will deliver.

[Ben-e-boy]

Neither can I but if I sell the yota for 1k, sell some more bags and get my ass into gear to market it better rather than here and sell a kidney I reckon I can make it happen!!!


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If you were closer I would buy it. We need a back yard basher for the track at scotts.

[nissannewby]

Chop the guards, you should be able to get away with only trimming the back of the wheel arch

Shouldn't have to on the front as the superior arms will place the diff in a better spot. My girlfriend only runs a 2" body lift on her ute with 35's and it out flexs most coil patrols and the Tyres don't touch. The rear on a wagon is a little different, as the wheel is pushed into the guard it is pushed rearward and will mostly touch with 35's so it may need a trim. Also long arms lessen the effect of rear steer when you start to chase better suspension travel. Long arms really are that good (for a bolt on application).

[megatexture]

What length shock are you going with? Be interested to hear how you go. I have the same 2" GU lift as AB so it's closer to 3" but am keen to get some more flex from it while still remaining in the "legal" zone........and there is no way I could drop $5K on suspension ATM.


I did do a rough measure but I don't trust the measurements as it was just using the high lift, I'll get some real world measurements before I actually get the shocks but using the highlift I got 504mm compressed 785 at full flex but as this was just lifting the body the other wheel wasn't tucking up so I'm not sure if this will affect it So I'll let you know when I get them!

[happygu]

AB,

I dont have anything too wild on mine, but 3" lift springs, with some good Koni's, Panhards, Drop Boxes, and some good quality Superior adjustable upper and lower arms on the rear, and I'm sure you would be happy....with less cost...

I dont have the adjustable rear arms yet, but mine is pretty good in the GU

Mic

[Clunk]

I asked that same question in a thread only about 3 months ago, not much helpful info come through though

Pretty sure I gave you a link to Parksy's thread

[megatexture]

I'm pretty sure it says on the superior site that the flat one needs a 2" body lift if put on a wagon.

[Clunk]

Looks like you are up for a bit of money, you should start making and selling rooftop bags to pay for it all.

Now there's a splendid idea. I'd buy one of those ;)

[Clunk]

I'm pretty sure it says on the superior site that the flat one needs a 2" body lift if put on a wagon.

It does, also says the bolt on kit may not work with some long range tanks

[Ben-e-boy]

Shouldn't have to on the front as the superior arms will place the diff in a better spot. My girlfriend only runs a 2" body lift on her ute with 35's and it out flexs most coil patrols and the Tyres don't touch. The rear on a wagon is a little different, as the wheel is pushed into the guard it is pushed rearward and will mostly touch with 35's so it may need a trim. Also long arms lessen the effect of rear steer when you start to chase better suspension travel. Long arms really are that good (for a bolt on application).

I had to beat the back of my front guard in with my 4 inch lift and if I had a 3 inch lift it would hit at the front of the guard on full up travel, and the leafs are going to move on a different axis too.

There is only a couple of degrees difference in the amount of rear steer, between long and short arms

[nissannewby]

I had to beat the back of my front guard in with my 4 inch lift and if I had a 3 inch lift it would hit at the front of the guard on full up travel, and the leafs are going to move on a different axis too.

There is only a couple of degrees difference in the amount of rear steer, between long and short arms

Yeah. There must be slight differences between each vehicle. My old GQ ran 2" suspension and 2" body lift with 35's without an clearance issues, maybe the body lifts is what the difference is in my case.

As for the rear steer, is this at the same travel as the shorter arms? Or just overall?

[Ben-e-boy]

Yeah. There must be slight differences between each vehicle. My old GQ ran 2" suspension and 2" body lift with 35's without an clearance issues, maybe the body lifts is what the difference is in my case.

As for the rear steer, is this at the same travel as the shorter arms? Or just overall?

Yeah I think body lift my have something to do with it.

Well as far as I can see with the same travel. But the angle of the lower link is no where near as steep. The big difference is the anti squat % and location of the instant centre and the performance and handling inprovments over stock that they bring

[nissannewby]

Yeah I think body lift my have something to do with it.

Well as far as I can see with the same travel. But the angle of the lower link is no where near as steep. The big difference is the anti squat % and location of the instant centre and the performance and handling inprovments over stock that they bring

So as before, they really are that good :)

[89gqpatrol4x4]

Pretty sure I gave you a link to Parksy's thread

You did mate but the question was would the ute one fit? As there appeared to be room.

[Clunk]

You did mate but the question was would the ute one fit? As there appeared to be room.

And the answer was, no it won't as you need a body lift.

[AB]

Ok, got my suspension all sorted....Check out my flex....lol

40236

[megatexture]

Have you seen the vids on that thing? its pretty awesome

[Winnie]

Love how stable the car looks too mate, awesome job!

[megatexture]

need a little more up travel

[AB]

Watch this space gents, worked out a plan to make this happen by June 30...lol


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[Clunk]

Watch this space gents, worked out a plan to make this happen by June 30...lol


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finally go the rooftop bags organised have you!!!?????

[megatexture]

I was thinking the same! Cheers ab!

[big_fletch]

Hey AB have a look at the Suspension stuff Website as well.. My 2"lift flexes like all hell.. Better then my old patrol too be honest.. And you get also get superior gear off them as well.. I Got the flexi coils and procomp shocks and the ride is super smooth its like magic :D:thumbup:

[critta11]

I would be interested if you wanted to sell it. Is it constant 200kg load?

[AB]

Hey AB have a look at the Suspension stuff Website as well.. My 2"lift flexes like all hell.. Better then my old patrol too be honest.. And you get also get superior gear off them as well.. I Got the flexi coils and procomp shocks and the ride is super smooth its like magic :D:thumbup:

Cheers fletch got plenty of time to work out what I need...lol


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[AB]

I would be interested if you wanted to sell it. Is it constant 200kg load?

Most times yeah mate. I'm about to take my w tire drawer system out for my second child anchor so this will be interesting.


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[AB]

Just adding that Superior Engineering Superflex Swaybar Kit to my wish list....lol

[happygu]

You still just talking about this suspension upgrade......:toot:

Come on AB....time to get it done....:bigthumbup:

Mic

[Ben-e-boy]

Just adding that Superior Engineering Superflex Swaybar Kit to my wish list....lol

Good boy... you get a biscuit

[AB]

I'm working towards it but it will take time....lol

I am really looking forward to this, one day!!!

[Winnie]

Then tickle up the motor and then.....................................

[AB]

Then tickle up the motor and then.....................................

Please don't....Thanks Winnie!!!

[nissannewby]

Please don't....Thanks Winnie!!!

Haha I spoke with Andy about this and some of the direction I will be taking and costs etc, I think he was a little stunned lol.