Gu goes bang

[Garth]

Well, not quite bang, but either way it's terminal.
ruff idle, lots and lots and lots of blue smoke on aceleration, a serious lack of power and generaly unhappy, so another gu 3.0 is now off the road, how ever im at doors end as to what i should do with this machine

any input would realy be apreicated, but this is what im looking at.
replacing the motor with a reconditioned motor, now if i do the nads on the new motor will it stop it going bang? or will it simply prolong the life of the motor as it will go bang in the end anyway?

ive had the idea put into my head of a ls1 conversion, now i can handle that idea, but how much does this cost? got to be realistic as at the end of the day it's still a nissan patrol but with a v8 under the bonnet, i mean the early ls1 motors had issues also.

or should i simply call the wreckers, but my losses and say come get my car?

and if i decide to sell it, would people buy it and install a new motor themselfs? if so what price would be a good asking price?

help me make my mind up, so many options, not sure what one to take.

either way im quite pissed at myself for not doing proper research, and im doubly pissed at nissan for selling the world such a large peice of poop.

garth

[the ferret]

Join the throng of not happy ZD30 DI owners, your best bet if it's a nice wagon would be to fit a TD 4.2 motor, good for half a million KS.
use the DI motor as a boat mooring!!
Cheers, the ferret.

[Stropp]

i assume its an early 3ltr?? engine swap would be your best course if the rest is ok, try bullet diesels if you are over east they do conversions to v8's and trade the old motors so a 4.2 diesel would be the go unless you can get a late 3ltr as that would be cheaper, if you are going to keep it i would go the conversion and then you will be ok, if not expect 3-4 k for it depending on condition.

[MudRunnerTD]

Bugger sorry Garth, I just checked and you have a 2000 GU. If the body is in good nick then you could go the LS1 or LS2. A TD42 would go in without Engineers but the LS will be a simple enough conversion nowadays too.

What state are you in mate?

How nice is your 2000 GU? How much did you pay for the car originally? How many kms.

[Morton]

if on a budget get a later model DI 2004-2006, LS1 or a V8 Diesel conversion or simply a 4.2

[Garth]

the gu is in perfect condition, well, it was, everything body wise, and interior wise is smick, ill put a cover over it and sit on it for a few weeks, weight up options and see what happens, ls1 conversion could be a option, im part of a holden forum so to get onto a ls1 wouldnt be dificult at all, did see that someone out there makes a ls1 conversion kit, including the bracket for aircon and engine mount jig for the holes. wiring is a walk in the park for me, being a electrician and all, so will just see what happens. the 5.7 would be brilliant, can charge the snot outa it. time will tell.

[happygu]

Garth,

I would get someone to check it, just in case it isnt something terminal ( sounds like it is, but sometimes you can be surprised )

Mic

[Dales300exc]

Coulda just shit a turbo on the zd. Work a check atleast.

[Morton]

if a pipe come off the intercooler or turbo it will do exactly this sort of thing, it is always best to check first

[Hodge]

Mate get it checked, make sure it isn't something with a simple fix. Don't slingshot your self into the deep end straight away.

[Garth]

anyone know a good mechanic that wont rip me off? brisbane would be awesum.

[lhurley]

Derek at auto art capalaba has always been good to me.

[SupRob]

DNA on beaudesert road, just don't go shopping next door at the chinese shop.

[Garth]

just goes to show always get a 2nd opinion. i wont name any mechanic's in this post but 2 mechanics told me that yes it was dead, new engine replacement, was given some nice prices, (thats a polite way of saying holy shit bat man 13k for a new motor, your joking) took it to a different fella, was the 3rd visit i had done with the car to a mechanic, he took one look at it and said it wasnt the motor, it was fine, did a few tests, actualy tested the car not just look at it and watch the wobble, and told me the turbo had shat itself, motor was fine. took it to a different fella again, and he confirmed it, turbo was dead, so basicaly, the bad idle, sounding like it was running on 3 cylinders, and massive amounts of blue smoke on aceleration wasnt a blown motor, just a turbo with a dead oil seal,

so im happy now, just goes to show, always shop around and there are still mechanic's out there that are out to rip people off.
just gotta find a turbo now.

will the new model turbo's i.e 2009 model fit the old 2000zd30?

cheers
garth

[threedogs]

no power heaps of smoke Check the hose [Blue] in the picture, LS1 would be awesome
but a cummins etc would be the bees knees

[nissannewby]

no power heaps of smoke Check the hose [Blue] in the picture, LS1 would be awesome
but a cummins etc would be the bees knees

Umm do you read post or just respond willy nilly? He has diagnosed the issue and now what's some advice on where to source a turbo.

[nissannewby]

just goes to show always get a 2nd opinion. i wont name any mechanic's in this post but 2 mechanics told me that yes it was dead, new engine replacement, was given some nice prices, (thats a polite way of saying holy shit bat man 13k for a new motor, your joking) took it to a different fella, was the 3rd visit i had done with the car to a mechanic, he took one look at it and said it wasnt the motor, it was fine, did a few tests, actualy tested the car not just look at it and watch the wobble, and told me the turbo had shat itself, motor was fine. took it to a different fella again, and he confirmed it, turbo was dead, so basicaly, the bad idle, sounding like it was running on 3 cylinders, and massive amounts of blue smoke on aceleration wasnt a blown motor, just a turbo with a dead oil seal,

so im happy now, just goes to show, always shop around and there are still mechanic's out there that are out to rip people off.
just gotta find a turbo now.

will the new model turbo's i.e 2009 model fit the old 2000zd30?

cheers
garth


There are minor differences between the 2 and for ease of fitment and application I would stick with a DI one.

[boots]

^^^ What newby reckons and time for the NADS to be installed .

[happygu]

just goes to show always get a 2nd opinion. i wont name any mechanic's in this post but 2 mechanics told me that yes it was dead, new engine replacement, was given some nice prices, (thats a polite way of saying holy shit bat man 13k for a new motor, your joking) took it to a different fella, was the 3rd visit i had done with the car to a mechanic, he took one look at it and said it wasnt the motor, it was fine, did a few tests, actualy tested the car not just look at it and watch the wobble, and told me the turbo had shat itself, motor was fine. took it to a different fella again, and he confirmed it, turbo was dead, so basicaly, the bad idle, sounding like it was running on 3 cylinders, and massive amounts of blue smoke on aceleration wasnt a blown motor, just a turbo with a dead oil seal,

so im happy now, just goes to show, always shop around and there are still mechanic's out there that are out to rip people off.
just gotta find a turbo now.

will the new model turbo's i.e 2009 model fit the old 2000zd30?

cheers
garth

Sounds like a good result Garth,

Lets hope that is the end of it for you, and it all works out.

Stick to the Di Turbo if you can. Try PatrolApart for pricing

Mic