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Pajman
5th January 2014, 01:21 AM
Hi Guys and Gals, I am New to the World of Patrol GU 3.0L Diesels, I am currently looking to buy an 08 Patrol Wagon 3.0L Manual with 230k km on the clock, its a local SA Country Vehicle, owned by Farmers on the Eyre Pennisular, I've had a quick look at the vehicle at the car yard in Adelaide and noticed that the Turbo has had the Compressor Replaced on the Turbo and that there appears to be oil leaking from the hose leading to the Intercooler? Is this something I should be worried about? It also has an Exhaust Leak from the Manifold to the Head ( the salesman said ) Is this a common problem with Manifold warping? This Patrol Drives Very Nice and the Engine Sounds Good apart from the Slight Exhaust Leak, Thanks in Advance. Pajman

grimace
5th January 2014, 06:57 AM
g'day Pajman, firstly 230k seems too many k's for such a young truck. i would be checking service history for sure also is the dealer going to fix the problems? how much is the truck? it would want to be well below $20,000 or you wouldn't touch it and i would have a good look around because there are plenty of ex gov with under 100k for just over $20,000 anyway good luck with the hunt, cheers....G

Pajman
5th January 2014, 02:10 PM
Hi G, yes the truck has Hi Ks but I guess its a lot of driving from Pt, Lincoln to Adelaide and Back 1,300 km every 2 weeks? I checked the Log Book and it All Good? The Asking Price is 21k and the CY are going to fix the Exhaust Leak and Bubbled Dash but after that there is No Warranty. I am Suprised to hear You Can pick up Ex Gov Trucks for that dough and km? I might have to take a Holiday up where you are and drive back with one?

threedogs
5th January 2014, 04:33 PM
Walk away, would be my thoughts.
plenty of better buys around, do you have a budget. like
you said might be better to fly and drive home if you find the right one

Pajman
5th January 2014, 11:18 PM
Yes I think yous are Right, without a Guarantee (over 200k km) its too Risky. The Kids only have 20k max so that why we were looking at this one, I saw a 08 with 76k km for $37,500 ! I thought $21k for a 230km 3.0L Turbo Patrol was Not Too Much? Is there a Link to Common Problems around 200k km?

happygu
5th January 2014, 11:24 PM
No real problems to speak of at this stage.

Main problems relate to bolt-ons....... like a cracked EGR, or a warped Exhaust Manifold.

A couple of early CRD's had bolts fall out of the Oil Pump internally and starve the motor for oil circulation, but I would think that any of those ones would have already surfaced by now.....

Mic

Pajman
6th January 2014, 08:53 PM
No real problems to speak of at this stage.

Main problems relate to bolt-ons....... like a cracked EGR, or a warped Exhaust Manifold.

A couple of early CRD's had bolts fall out of the Oil Pump internally and starve the motor for oil circulation, but I would think that any of those ones would have already surfaced by now.....

Mic

So Warped Manifolds are a Common Problem ? How do they Fix this? Use a Milling Machine or Replace the Manifold/s ? The Car Yard said the Bubbley Crash Pad would be Replaced by Nissan Aust under Warranty?
Would that be Correct? I've read that This 08 Model were very bad for Bubbley Crash Pads?

Rumcajs
6th January 2014, 09:06 PM
I'd walk away for sure, in any case the oil leak from turbo could actually be from blowby (closed crankcase ventilation).
Bubbly dashes are ongoing issue in all Patrols from 04 up. The problem is that some vehicles which had the dash replaced under warranty are already bubbling again.
There is 6 years only free dash replacement limit. So being 08 plus 6 years this years it has last chance.

Warped exhaust manifold is mostly due to excessive EGTs. (600-700C) The manifold probably needs replacement, not cheap. Since or if the high EGTs are not corrected it will warp again.
High EGTs could be a result of overfuelling, usual cause injectors very expensive to fix as each is around $1000 a piece.

This Patrol is due for some expensive ticket items plus whole a lot of more maintenance issues so if you aren't handy with spanners prepare to be fleeced. Has it got EGT gauge and boost gauge fitted?
If not it has been driven like normal car which is ....and when towing anything like that, it has been cooked EGT wise.

Cheers

Pajman
6th January 2014, 09:29 PM
I'd walk away for sure, in any case the oil leak from turbo could actually be from blowby (closed crankcase ventilation).
Bubbly dashes are ongoing issue in all Patrols from 04 up. The problem is that some vehicles which had the dash replaced under warranty are already bubbling again.
There is 6 years only free dash replacement limit. So being 08 plus 6 years this years it has last chance.

Warped exhaust manifold is mostly due to excessive EGTs. (600-700C) The manifold probably needs replacement, not cheap. Since or if the high EGTs are not corrected it will warp again.
High EGTs could be a result of overfuelling, usual cause injectors very expensive to fix as each is around $1000 a piece.

This Patrol is due for some expensive ticket items plus whole a lot of more maintenance issues so if you aren't handy with spanners prepare to be fleeced. Has it got EGT gauge and boost gauge fitted?
If not it has been driven like normal car which is ....and when towing anything like that, it has been cooked EGT wise.

Cheers

Thanks Mate, thats what I needed to know, makes sense now.....5Yrs of Pt. Lincoln to Adelaide Return 3 times a Month Fully Loaded Trailer = Excess Exhaust Temps ! That Little 3.0L CRD has been Screaming for Mercy. We'll give that one a Big Miss. Thanks Again.

Rumcajs
6th January 2014, 09:36 PM
Thanks Mate, thats what I needed to know, makes sense now.....5Yrs of Pt. Lincoln to Adelaide Return 3 times a Month Fully Loaded Trailer = Excess Exhaust Temps ! That Little 3.0L CRD has been Screaming for Mercy. We'll give that one a Big Miss. Thanks Again.

There is a reason they're trying to flog it off in Adelaide and not Pt Lincoln. Everyone there knows its story...Nissan dealer at Pt Lincoln has rather low reputation too.

Cheers