RUST! on 18 month old GU8

[Maxhead]

I noticed this a while ago but have not reported it to Nissan yet....going in on Thursday.

These rust spots are under the drivers side rear quarter window and are less then 1mm ATM. There are small traces of this on the other side as well.

What you guys reckon?? Should I be hitting Nissan up for repairs or total respray??? I'm afraid the whole car could be peppered with it :(

I was thinking of going to a paint specialist for advice but I think it will be bias.

Any experts on here that could throw some light on the subject.

Cheers

You might have to click on the photos again when they open in the viewer for enlarged size

[threedogs]

You haven't been grinding anywhere near the Patrol lately?

[Maxhead]

You haven't been grinding anywhere near the Patrol lately?

No I haven't .
Its always been garaged as well.

[threedogs]

That's me out , hope you find a solution,
there was a thread a while back about blisters under the paint
or rust spots not quiet sure which.
all on late models, but looking at the blown up pics
I'll stand by my first comment

[Maxhead]

That's me out , hope you find a solution,
there was a thread a while back about blisters under the paint
or rust spots not quiet sure which.
all on late models, but looking at the blown up pics
I'll stand by my first comment

Hmmm, you got me thinking so I went and scraped one spot back and it appears to be coming through the paint.
Could it be something other than rust????

Never been near a grinder or welder

[MudRunnerTD]

Acid rain from somewhere! Very average though!

[04OFF]

You haven't been grinding anywhere near the Patrol lately?


Yeh that would have been my first assumption, hope its something Nissan have seen before, otherwise I fear you may just have a fight on your hands.

Read your Warranty booklet "exactly" what corrosion is covered, often manufactures use the "perforated" rust "only" excuse etc.



I wonder if small metal fragments (grinding) could have been carried by the wind and settled on your car, could have blown off the back of a truck you followed, or anything, thats why we need to wash our cars at least once a week so you can spot/fix things early.

One things for sure, they look horrible and will only get worse, how come you waited till they got this bad ?

[04OFF]

On the second pic down, what is that huge purple stain on the top right of the panel ?

[threedogs]

You may have parked your patrol near where some grinding was
taking place as the sparks need to be "HOT" to stick to the paint.
Someone may be able to find the thread about bubbles or blisters under the paint,
Know his name but cant remember it

[mudnut]

I would expect a wider field of damage from air borne contamination. Your idea about taking it to get a professional opinion before heading to Nissan, is a good one.

[04OFF]

I would expected a wider field of damage from air borne contamination. Your idea about taking it to get a professional opinion before heading to Nissan, is a good one.

Not if the rear of the car was closer to the debris source , I had grinding metal on my wagon (after the respray), the grinding was done near the rear of the car, fallout was in the exact same pattern and area as shown above, I only noticed it when the fragments went rusty.

Fortunately I washed the car a week later, and could feel/see all the rust dots, while they stick bloody hard, all mine came off with the aid of a clay block (I did the whole car to be sure), washing with a sponge did nothing to remove them.



I do agree, getting a professional opinion won't hurt, it may just give you some extra ammo before you go into battle with Nissan :tongue:





Still keen to find out what the purple stain in the pic is ?

:smile:

[Maxhead]

On the second pic down, what is that huge purple stain on the top right of the panel ?

That's spray on wax from car lovers....just not raised off properly I guess

[Maxhead]

You may have parked your patrol near where some grinding was
taking place as the sparks need to be "HOT" to stick to the paint.
Someone may be able to find the thread about bubbles or blisters under the paint,
Know his name but cant remember it


I have read through that thread as well.

I really can not recall being near any grinding work.... When we were on our 3 month trip the truck didn't get washed so maybe a few metal filings got deposited on the car and mixed in with red dust???

I think a professional might be the go then

[Maxhead]

One things for sure, they look horrible and will only get worse, how come you waited till they got this bad ?


Not really that long ago but around 2 months...yeah slap in the head for me
It hasn;t changed much in that period that is why I think it started from new

[04OFF]

That's spray on wax from car lovers....just not raised off properly I guess

So you dont chamois the car off after washing ? Not good practice leaving stuff on your paintwork like that,even if it is a wax product

[threedogs]

Give it a light cut and polish it may just remove it

[Maxhead]

So you dont chamois the car off after washing ? Not good practice leaving stuff on your paintwork like that,even if it is a wax product


Never ever dried any of my cars after washing and never ever had any issues like this but yeah I should have rinsed it a bit better...just ran of of coins...LOL

[Maxhead]

Give it a light cut and polish it may just remove it

I was thinking that but might get it looked as first and get some advice

[megatexture]

mate I know Mitsubishi have had similar issues with this as it happened to a friend’s triton only worse and his was 3 weeks after he got the car and a whole lot worse. I can see if I can find his thread on the triton forum but I think they used a clay bar to remove it all but it took a couple of attempts to get it all ill ask him and let him and let you know what happened

[MEGOMONSTER]

Was it purchased brand new or new second hand.
Could it have been re sprayed from an accident or something like that.
I don't know I got no idea. I do like the grinding sparks theory, it does fit.

[Maxhead]

Was it purchased brand new or new second hand.
Could it have been re sprayed from an accident or something like that.
I don't know I got no idea. I do like the grinding sparks theory, it does fit.
Was new mate.....

[MEGOMONSTER]

Was new mate.....

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.........
Very innnnnnteresssssssssting

[Maxhead]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.........
Very innnnnnteresssssssssting

All I can think off if it hasn't happened in factory is when I was getting one of my accessories put in ...don't know. I'll get it checked out

[MEGOMONSTER]

All I can think off if it hasn't happened in factory is when I was getting one of my accessories put in ...don't know. I'll get it checked out

The old accessory fitter trick.

I just found out that my spotty lense protector mounting point had been broken and superglued together and put back on.
To their credit (whoever it was) did a really good job as you can hardly tell until I took it off to clean.

[04OFF]

Never ever dried any of my cars after washing and never ever had any issues like this but yeah I should have rinsed it a bit better...just ran of of coins...LOL

Do you not wonder why all your windows all have stains that wont come out ?, town water leaves behind minerals that leave stains, not good for your car, not what has caused your rust, but not good for your car, if you love your car, buy a chamios or at least use a soft towel and dry it off

[megatexture]

Spoke with my mate and the matter is still on going, apparently they think it may be from delivery using rail ? Or possibly the port they deliver the cars to in wa is next to some manufacture plant ... Basically they have no idea but his rust spots are on every panel.

[Maxhead]

Spoke with my mate and the matter is still on going, apparently they think it may be from delivery using rail ? Or possibly the port they deliver the cars to in wa is next to some manufacture plant ... Basically they have no idea but his rust spots are on every panel.

Shoite, either way they should fix it, but yeah they have to blame someone..LOL
We'll see what Mr Nissan has to say on Thursday, they've been very good so far..............

[threedogs]

I like the accessory fitter theory, lots of grinding can go on in work shops ,
but hopefully you'll get a decent answer/result on Thursday, fingers crossed

[89gqpatrol4x4]

sister in law had rust form on her 12 month old challenger with electronic rust proof from new! Mistubishi fixed it no worries but makes you wonder!

[04OFF]

sister in law had rust form on her 12 month old challenger with electronic rust proof from new! Mistubishi fixed it no worries but makes you wonder!

Pretty much sums up what most of us already know about ERP systems !


Was it rust on the roof BTW ?

[89gqpatrol4x4]

yep at the rear

[Steve4wdin]

You live in the ACT. You didn't drive past parliament while it was sitting did you?

[NP99]

What about close to airborne cement?? When guys rip bags open for post hole work, the dust floats....I'm sure it does damage to cars it lands on, esp when damp air settles with it!!!

[Maxhead]

Well the experts at Nissan say it was "on top of paint" rust which attached itself to the paint... They actually got a paint shop guy to check it out for me :)

I'm now thinking its something to do with the boat loader roof rack I had on our trip last year which was around the same area as the spots. My truck wasn't washed for 3 months...
Boat is alloy and so were the rollers so I guess it was the roof mounts that sprinkled some metal on that spot???

I haven't had a chance to check it out after they polished it off as the car is in getting a long range tank fitted.. I'll check it out properly tomorrow morning.

BTW, My Nissan dealer was more then helpful and did the recall I took it in for and also replaced the belt tensioner (it was leaking as it's hydrolic) and also alternator bracket as it was dodgy as they say..LOL

[Maxhead]

Looks like you guys were spot on it being something that attached itself to the paint...cheers

[Steve4wdin]

If you need any help, PM me, my nephew Is a panel spray painter down there

[Maxhead]

If you need any help, PM me, my nephew Is a panel spray painter down there

Thank you mate, I'll check it out tomorrow and if there is anything suss I'll PM ya buddy....Cheers

[megatexture]

If it comes back grab a clay bar , sure you went to a nissan dealer? They aren't usually helpful

[Wine_maker]

May be you should try to find this device

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/12/97.jpg

and check the thickness of paint on the whole car.

May be rusted part is just a part without coat under paint. So with this device you can determinate is this is a single bad place or not.
If not it will be better to repaint whole car.