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Sir Roofy
21st May 2014, 10:02 PM
Hey Roofy
We both are very excited.

Was hoping to catch up with you guys and Kat somewhere along the way and travel together

where leaving about the 21st or22 june and going up through hawker

snicko
21st May 2014, 10:09 PM
where leaving about the 21st or22 june and going up through hawker

Which day are you going to be at Hawker? or is it to early for you to know yet?

Sir Roofy
22nd May 2014, 01:58 PM
which day are you going to be at hawker? Or is it to early for you to know yet?

a tad early maybe 25th depends where we stop
mmmmmm maybe the 24th but we,l be around there
some time or on the way to maree

MudRunnerTD
22nd May 2014, 03:52 PM
Last time up Maree was the most expensive fuel for the trip. Avoid filling there is you can.

snicko
22nd May 2014, 09:55 PM
a tad early maybe 25th depends where we stop
mmmmmm maybe the 24th but we,l be around there
some time or on the way to maree

If we cant catch up with you guys along the way then we will head to Roxby Downs for Saturday night the 28th

Sir Roofy
23rd May 2014, 11:11 AM
If we cant catch up with you guys along the way then we will head to Roxby Downs for Saturday night the 28th

will know more after the w/end and what we plan on doing
meeting up with kat and and steve to finalize
trip notes

snicko
23rd May 2014, 02:25 PM
Hey Guys

I can't seam to find what happens after we all get to Dalhousie Springs on the 1st July other than we are crossing the Simpson Desert.

Time frame etc

MudRunnerTD
23rd May 2014, 02:44 PM
Hey Guys

I can't seam to find what happens after we all get to Dalhousie Springs on the 1st July other than we are crossing the Simpson Desert.

Time frame etc

We will take 3 to 4 days to cross and have dinner at the Birdsville Pub on the Friday night i'd say

GU CAMPER
23rd May 2014, 02:57 PM
What way are people from Victoria going up to Dalhousie

the evil twin
23rd May 2014, 08:16 PM
Jeez... I wish the stupid highs would strengthen and push the rain away from the centre so the tracks can dry out.

It must still be boggy out there in some areas

Dr Gary
24th May 2014, 08:49 PM
So doing some research tonight about the Desert Park Pass. It is available at Mt Dare and is $150 and each car must have one. It is also available online and wondering how many of you guys are going to buy it over the counter at Mt Darr and how many have purchase online??

You also now require a Sand Flag 2m above the roof or 3m above the bull bar,(new this year) and a Queensland permit for the QAA line--last leg into Birdsville
If you plan an east-west then west-east you can call SA Parks and they will send you the Desert Parks Pass --payment by credit card works.

Winnie
25th May 2014, 10:19 AM
Bought a new self inflating mattress yesterday, slept on it last night, they are surprisingly really comfortable

AB
25th May 2014, 10:26 AM
My rods are only 2m long gents...

We can check them out next weekend anyway.

Winnie
25th May 2014, 10:33 AM
My rods are only 2m long gents...

We can check them out next weekend anyway.

They need to be 3.5m from the ground so probably won't cut it, we will check them out on the weekend, or I can bring a few sticks of conduit which are 4m long or we can cut them of course.

AB
25th May 2014, 11:15 AM
They need to be 3.5m from the ground so probably won't cut it, we will check them out on the weekend, or I can bring a few sticks of conduit which are 4m long or we can cut them of course.

I have a dozen so we could also clamp two together but it may too over the place. Well test them out.

So confirming all cars must have flags, not just the leader?

Winnie
25th May 2014, 12:00 PM
I have a dozen so we could also clamp two together but it may too over the place. Well test them out.

So confirming all cars must have flags, not just the leader?

That's correct.

Stropp
25th May 2014, 12:58 PM
i have a telescopic one from opposite lock, very solid and of course can be set a varying heights. I need it here as there is more beach and dune type stuff and the flat endless bush it helps to see oncoming vehicles.

Winnie
25th May 2014, 01:21 PM
Okay obviously normal tent pegs aren't going to work in the Simpson sand, I went to the shop to see what alternatives are available. How am I suppose to use this to hold my tent down? The pegs won't fit through the tie downs on the tent.

45008

threedogs
25th May 2014, 01:28 PM
Don't forget some opera nets any water way will be chokkas with yabbies

threedogs
25th May 2014, 01:29 PM
Okay obviously normal tent pegs aren't going to work in the Simpson sand, I went to the shop to see what alternatives are available. How am I suppose to use this to hold my tent down? The pegs won't fit through the tie downs on the tent.

45008
loop some para cord through the eyelets

AB
25th May 2014, 02:23 PM
Okay obviously normal tent pegs aren't going to work in the Simpson sand, I went to the shop to see what alternatives are available. How am I suppose to use this to hold my tent down? The pegs won't fit through the tie downs on the tent.

<img src="http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=45008"/>

I've got standard pegs that are about 450mm long and never let me down in sand camping.

MudRunnerTD
25th May 2014, 02:38 PM
Okay obviously normal tent pegs aren't going to work in the Simpson sand, I went to the shop to see what alternatives are available. How am I suppose to use this to hold my tent down? The pegs won't fit through the tie downs on the tent.

45008

Yeah I bought a set of these for the Madigan trip and did not use them once. Good to have but the ground was hard.

Winnie
25th May 2014, 03:03 PM
I've got standard pegs that are about 450mm long and never let me down in sand camping.

Yeah really? I've never camped in sand

snicko
25th May 2014, 06:58 PM
Hey Guys
Was wondering is there a list somewhere that I missed that has minimum of what we all need to take?
Like water, fuel, spares, recovery etc

Winnie
25th May 2014, 07:08 PM
I think a general rule of thumb is 6L of water per person per day but take it from home.

Sir Roofy
25th May 2014, 07:57 PM
hey guys
was wondering is there a list somewhere that i missed that has minimum of what we all need to take?
Like water, fuel, spares, recovery etc

look up the parks site sa then simpson desert will tell you just about every thing
youve got a longrange tank already havent you

Sir Roofy
25th May 2014, 08:01 PM
hey guys
was wondering is there a list somewhere that i missed that has minimum of what we all need to take?
Like water, fuel, spares, recovery etc

explore oz .com has some good reading

AB
25th May 2014, 08:24 PM
I've just had a full makeover on my gq and full service.

I am going solo so taking 2 x 25 litre water plus a shipload of 1 litre bottled waters.

I have a full second set of all hoses and belts. I'm also taking my box of goodies with assorted tricks and bolts, gaskets and tapes, etc. I can also put my td42 back to non turbo if something happens on that side.

Front and rear recovery points and straps and winch.

Brake fluid, power steering, clutch and filter spares, etc.

I have decent tread on my tyres but also taking 2 x spares. One on rear barn door and one on roof.

I have also just invested in small solar suitcase and will be borrowing my brothers 60 litre waeco.

I will have 1 x 60 litre waeco for fridge only with drinks, dairy and fresh produce. I will be ripping out my vege garden just before I leave so have fresh carrots, potato, beetroot, etc.

Not needed but I'm going to spoil myself with my brothers second 60 litre purely as a freezer.

Prior to departure will be cooking up lasagne, stir fry and roasts and veg and freezing in small foil trays to be taken out for defrosting during the day for easy meals in the oven at night in the latter of the trip.

I will also be taking frozen pies, pasties, ice, icey poles, ice cream and other assortments of patisserie pleasures to wang in the oven for lunch times along with wraps with ham, tomato, cheese, etc

Ill also freeze bread to have jaffles for breaky or just cereal, oats etc using 1 litre long life milk.

I will have my aux tank in so ample fuel between stops but still topping up at each spot just in case a crucial servo has had a meltdown and not in operation

Ill also be taking some easy rice satchets as Darren mentioned to just boil up and also some Indian easy boil sauces.

I will be taken a lot of beer. 2 x cartons of ciggys and a dirty big smile!!!!

I'm sure there's a lot more but that's my food anyway...lol

snicko
25th May 2014, 08:25 PM
explore oz .com has some good reading

Thanks Roofy

Going to have a look now.

Winnie
25th May 2014, 08:33 PM
You are one extravagant bastard Andy. I'm gonna be simple, I've got those pre made meals and I am gonna take a heap of rice satchels to have with them. That's me for dinners, dunno about lunches though.

AB
25th May 2014, 08:38 PM
You are one extravagant bastard Andy. I'm gonna be simple, I've got those pre made meals and I am gonna take a heap of rice satchels to have with them. That's me for dinners, dunno about lunches though.

18 pre done sachet meals in a row will send me troppo mate!!!!

Welcome to throw a couple of frozen meals in my freezer if you want.

Winnie
25th May 2014, 08:40 PM
18 pre done sachet meals in a row will send me troppo mate!!!!

Welcome to throw a couple of frozen meals in my freezer if you want.

I bought 10 of them and only plan to have them on days we are in the desert for ease. Travelling and other times I will probably buy sausages, steaks etc. I'm sure we will have a lot of counter meals anyway

MudRunnerTD
25th May 2014, 08:59 PM
Bread will be scarce and stale so wraps for the win for lunches.

AB. (Caps on) DO NOT TAKE YOUR FRUIT AND VEGIS FROM YOUR GARDEN! YOU WILL LOOSE THEM ALL AT THE ROAD BLOCK AT RENMARK.

All fruit and VEGIS must be precooked or purchased in Berri.

MudRunnerTD
25th May 2014, 09:00 PM
I have had to flip my camper at the road block for searching! Serious!

AB
25th May 2014, 09:01 PM
Bread will be scarce and stale so wraps for the win for lunches.

AB. (Caps on) DO NOT TAKE YOUR FRUIT AND VEGIS FROM YOUR GARDEN! YOU WILL LOOSE THEM ALL AT THE ROAD BLOCK AT RENMARK.

All fruit and VEGIS must be precooked or purchased in Berri.

Arr bugger I forgot about that...cheers mate!

Sir Roofy
25th May 2014, 09:40 PM
arr bugger i forgot about that...cheers mate!

what would we do with out you andy
how many times has this been mentioned

snicko
25th May 2014, 10:01 PM
Thanks AB for your list.

Good to know what people are taking as I don't want to be the one who holds everyone up because I wasn't properly prepared.

Front recovery points I have had on the wish list for ages so now seems the perfect time to get them!!!

Winnie
25th May 2014, 10:01 PM
Dammit, no roast Thorpdale potatoes in the Simpson Desert then...

snicko
25th May 2014, 10:07 PM
When we went as far as Oondandatta a couple of years ago we had fish and chips in the desert!!

the evil twin
25th May 2014, 10:12 PM
When we went as far as Oondandatta a couple of years ago we had fish and chips in the desert!!

I don't see a problem with that as long as the fish didn't come from the "Fresh Local Seafood" van you see parked beside the track.

snicko
25th May 2014, 11:19 PM
hahahahahaha I wonder if they are still there!!

Dr Gary
26th May 2014, 02:59 PM
It is 504 km from Mt Dare (last fuel) to Birdsville (first fuel) There is nothing between that resembles a supply of anything except sand!!!
Magazine article says around 180 litres for a full size 4x4
That 504 is using the French Line-basically a straight line and the shortest feasible route.
You wind up at Poepples Corner, turn north for 20K then east on the QAA line to Birdsville. You need a Queensland Parks permit for QAA-and they (Q.Parks) don't seem to now how to get the permit--they told me to call the local ranger!!!

MudRunnerTD
26th May 2014, 04:24 PM
Everyone please see this link for Safety Flag requirements.

http://www.anfwdc.asn.au/news.php?id=93





Bumped this for me. Need to add a couple of links here and front page of this thread.

MudRunnerTD
26th May 2014, 04:29 PM
I call July 2014 at Dalhousie Springs and then over the Simpson Desert as our meetup.

There are some Public liability Issues if we call it the National Meetup of the Forum and this also rules AB out of the Organising group. This trip must be seen as a group of mates hooking up for a great trip together.

Epic.



I call Meet at Dalhousie Springs, Tuesday 1st July 2014

See you there

Thread provided by The Dogman!

http://www.exploroz.com/TrekNotes/Deserts/Simpson_Desert_French_Line.aspx

This has been added to the front page too, See the link in that quote for track details.

MudRunnerTD
26th May 2014, 04:52 PM
Giving the fuel usage some thought guys, we may decide to detour along a couple of the side tracks if the traffic is heavy and we want to mix it up a little. THere are a couple of Land Marks worth viewing. The link above indicates that Daulhousie to Birdsville is 438kms and as Dr Gary indicates the distance to Mt Dare should also be considered.

Mt Dare are recommending carrying 150lt of fuel and usage will be between 120 and 140lt for a diesel assuming a good safety margin. Plenty of folks quoting 95lt used though!. I will probably carry at least a jerry can on the roof which will then give me a total of 195lts which should be heaps.

http://www.exploroz.com/Forum/Topic/46924/Simpson_Desert_Crossingfuel_consumption.aspx

Having a bit of a read around and most folks are averaging less than 19lt/100 and we all should do it easily. Taking a little extra each should allow us to do some diversions given we are in no hurry.

Looking forward to it.

the evil twin
26th May 2014, 05:04 PM
Here is another good write up and some excellent pics from when the TVan Owners Group "did the Simmo" in 2011.
http://www.exploroz.com/Members/200982.000/11/2011/2011_Simpson_Desert_TVAN_Rally__West_to_East_Cross ing_.aspx

Dr Gary
27th May 2014, 11:30 AM
Is anyone choosing a double crossing--Birdsville to Mt Dare and back??
For Queenslanders that would save around 1,000 km. There is no easy way to get from Gold Coast to Mt Dare, and across the Simmo is the shortest. hmmm

MudRunnerTD
27th May 2014, 11:34 AM
Is anyone choosing a double crossing--Birdsville to Mt Dare and back??
For Queenslanders that would save around 1,000 km. There is no easy way to get from Gold Coast to Mt Dare, and across the Simmo is the shortest. hmmm

Initially there was a large group from QLD that were going to do a double but they have all dropped off over time. I intended to do the double with them but due to lack of interest and other things I am now heading straight to Daulhousie and crossing West East only.

MudRunnerTD
27th May 2014, 11:36 AM
You are right your probably save 1000kms but not sure you'd save any time or fuel?? Birdsville to and oodnadatta are fast dirt roads.

MudRunnerTD
2nd June 2014, 11:00 AM
Here you go Andy,
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/321133088100?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

There was a cheaper one but this is Aussie made etc.

bit the bullet and bought one last Thursday, arrived today, looks like it is a very good quality product with QA details documented. Very happy.

MudRunnerTD
2nd June 2014, 11:01 AM
under 30 days folks!!!!!

the evil twin
2nd June 2014, 12:22 PM
Yeah... tell me about it :eek:

I got my truck back last week with all the new bar work done, Brembo brakes fitted, under tray tool boxes fitted etc etc.
Finished the Driving Lights, Cabin wiring, HF and other Comms work yest.
Start on the Mud flaps, 2nd battery and Winch wiring today.
Gotta try and finish before Friday when the new camper arrives as I'll need to stop working on the Patrol and fit that out before I leave.

... might have to pack a 3 boxes of cable ties, 20 rolls of duct tape and a good sense of humour

TPC
2nd June 2014, 12:24 PM
Yeah... tell me about it :eek:

I got my truck back last week with all the new bar work done, Brembo brakes fitted, under tray tool boxes fitted etc etc.
Finished the Driving Lights, Cabin wiring, HF and other Comms work yest.
Start on the Mud flaps, 2nd battery and Winch wiring today.
Gotta try and finish before Friday when the new camper arrives as I'll need to stop working on the Patrol and fit that out before I leave.

... might have to pack a 3 boxes of cable ties, 20 rolls of duct tape and a good sense of humour
Just organize a working bee at Dalhousie.

AB
2nd June 2014, 06:20 PM
Starting to hit home how close we are to going!


Management are now asking weekly intervals of the dates as well...lol

the evil twin
2nd June 2014, 07:31 PM
Just organize a working bee at Dalhousie.

What an awesome idea...

delete 3 boxes of cable ties, 20 rolls of duct tape and good sense of humour
insert 3 slabs of beer, 20 steaks and a stock whip

AB
2nd June 2014, 07:33 PM
What an awesome idea...

delete 3 boxes of cable ties, 20 rolls of duct tape and good sense of humour
insert 3 slabs of beer, 20 steaks and a stock whip

Ill bring the whip...

the evil twin
2nd June 2014, 07:37 PM
Ill bring the whip...

Cool, I'll be Project manager, you can be Foreman... now just need a shitload of minions

Stropp
2nd June 2014, 11:02 PM
Yep me too, the troll was in all last week fixin the small bits and pieces, gearbox mount, wheel bearings replaced, swivel hub rebuild, wire the solar panel in, fitted the tent again today and started sorting out all the bits to take. It goes back to the mechanic in the morning to finish wiring in the solar controller, fit the travel buddy into a removable frame so I can mount it on the twin floor or remove it easily. Then just double check it all before going to the auto sparky to fit the rear power panel and check the electrics that I have done, I have to go this way as I'm just running out of time to do it myself.

Stropp
3rd June 2014, 09:44 PM
Bugger, it's still in the workshop but I pick it up tomorrow, may need a bank loan :(

snicko
3rd June 2014, 10:06 PM
Getting excited and overwhelmed at the same time. Lots to do....can't wait to be on the road so all the organising is over!! hahaha

Winnie
3rd June 2014, 10:08 PM
Me and AB got our sub tanks put in on the weekend. Mine is now wired up but I've gotta take it somewhere to get the fuel gauge on the sub tank wired into the switch

Stropp
3rd June 2014, 11:13 PM
I'm so looking to getting on the road too, I have put my departure date forward to the Wednesday prior now as I can't wait :)

the evil twin
4th June 2014, 01:57 AM
I'm so looking to getting on the road too, I have put my departure date forward to the Wednesday prior now as I can't wait :)

Shit, that means you'll pass me around Giles or The Olgas.

Save me a good spot at Dalhousie/3 O'clock... which raise a good point.

Where are we going to camp/meet up? I believe Dalhousie can be limited for spots that time of year and that 3 O'clock is the better camping, shady etc albiet no crappers.

Sir Roofy
4th June 2014, 12:13 PM
Just about ready to roll out



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19 DAYS TO GO

Winnie
4th June 2014, 12:15 PM
What did you do for a flag pole and where did you get the flag

AB
4th June 2014, 01:37 PM
What did you do for a flag pole and where did you get the flag

So many questions, so little time...lol

We need flags and a pole!!!!

Winnie
4th June 2014, 02:02 PM
I was going to use PVC conduit but it's way too flexy. Andy's fibreglass rods are too short... doh!

taslucas
4th June 2014, 02:04 PM
Old fishing rod!? Lol.

Sir Roofy
4th June 2014, 02:26 PM
what did you do for a flag pole and where did you get the flag

action 4x4 mate but make sure your holding on to the counter
for the price comes complete brakes into 3 pieces and slips on to the nipple

taslucas
4th June 2014, 02:30 PM
http://www.kitepower.com.au/solid-fibre-glass-rod.html

Sir Roofy
4th June 2014, 02:30 PM
action 4x4 mate but make sure your holding on to the counter
for the price comes complete brakes into 3 pieces and slips on to the nipple

but when you think about it
theres the border track to be done theres robe thats coming up
the littledesert all need flags

taslucas
4th June 2014, 02:31 PM
http://www.permex.com.au

Winnie
4th June 2014, 02:36 PM
action 4x4 mate but make sure your holding on to the counter
for the price comes complete brakes into 3 pieces and slips on to the nipple

Is that the Black Widow one at about $110? My boss has one and said I could borrow it but I want to make something on the cheap... lmao

Sir Roofy
4th June 2014, 02:58 PM
is that the black widow one at about $110? My boss has one and said i could borrow it but i want to make something on the cheap... Lmao

no its a mines one i know what your saying im always looking for a way around things
but fishing rods plastic pipes there brittle with this one drill a hole 5minutes its on
get the boss,s one now thats cheap lol

Stropp
4th June 2014, 02:58 PM
i have one from opposite lock which is extendable with a flouro flag attached, it is a twist lock setup and very solid.

jack
4th June 2014, 03:39 PM
I am so so so so so so so jealous of you guys, so wish I was going.

PMC
4th June 2014, 03:40 PM
I am so so so so so so so jealous of you guys, so wish I was going.

Farkkk, then why not?

Regards,

Paul

MudRunnerTD
4th June 2014, 06:25 PM
I might check out the deals at the Expo for a Sand Flag if the poles from AB dont work. You can get them off ebay for $120 so i reckon we can do a deal at the expo better than that??

MudRunnerTD
4th June 2014, 06:26 PM
I am so so so so so so so jealous of you guys, so wish I was going.


You've got 26 days! ;) Plenty of time! ET has not even started building his Camper yet !! Plenty of time!

Then there is Roofy! He's bloody Packed and ready to go!!

Winnie
4th June 2014, 06:32 PM
You've got 26 days! ;) Plenty of time! ET has not even started building his Camper yet !! Plenty of time!

Then there is Roofy! He's bloody Packed and ready to go!!

I haven't really unpacks since Dargo =) hahaha

AB
4th June 2014, 06:43 PM
I might check out the deals at the Expo for a Sand Flag if the poles from AB dont work. You can get them off ebay for $120 so i reckon we can do a deal at the expo better than that??

Why can't we hook them on to the roof rack??

Sir Roofy
4th June 2014, 06:47 PM
why can't we hook them on to the roof rack??

think about it

Sir Roofy
4th June 2014, 06:51 PM
you've got 26 days! ;) plenty of time! Et has not even started building his camper yet !! Plenty of time!

Then there is roofy! He's bloody packed and ready to go!!

you bet mate cant wait but if the doc says know we might be a doc short lol

Winnie
4th June 2014, 06:52 PM
I might check out the deals at the Expo for a Sand Flag if the poles from AB dont work. You can get them off ebay for $120 so i reckon we can do a deal at the expo better than that??

See how you go with that Darren. Might do a good deal if a few of us are interested!

AB
4th June 2014, 07:13 PM
think about it

Not forward of vehicle as you go over dunes...

MudRunnerTD
4th June 2014, 07:21 PM
See how you go with that Darren. Might do a good deal if a few of us are interested!

That's what I'm thinking too.

MudRunnerTD
4th June 2014, 07:25 PM
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the evil twin
4th June 2014, 07:37 PM
One of my safety flags is "Mine Spec" and is attached to the tray head board behind the Cabin like 1,000,000 or more other complliant vehicles in Aus.

The other is a fibreglass whip purely for wank factor and attaches to the bull bar at 3.8 metres or head board if I want it over 5 metres high.

Stropp
5th June 2014, 12:18 PM
well after finding heaps of things wrong with the patrol its finally ready for the trip, FAAARK it cost a small fortune but its all set now to go and nothing should go wrong, i think the previous owners (dept fisheries) did a lot more damage than i thought they would have, apparently all the bolts are seized in due to salt water ingestion. looks like when i get back i will have to give it another clean down and another liberal coating of rust converter and fish oil.

MudRunnerTD
5th June 2014, 12:42 PM
well after finding heaps of things wrong with the patrol its finally ready for the trip, FAAARK it cost a small fortune but its all set now to go and nothing should go wrong, i think the previous owners (dept fisheries) did a lot more damage than i thought they would have, apparently all the bolts are seized in due to salt water ingestion. looks like when i get back i will have to give it another clean down and another liberal coating of rust converter and fish oil.

It will be very nicely and conveniently sand blasted fully underneath when you return! Perfect time for Fish Oil!

GU CAMPER
5th June 2014, 01:10 PM
So has it been decided which route we are taking across the Simpson.
I'm keen to do rig rd, waa line, k1 line and French line etc
What's everybody's thoughts

MudRunnerTD
5th June 2014, 01:33 PM
So has it been decided which route we are taking across the Simpson.
I'm keen to do rig rd, waa line, k1 line and French line etc
What's everybody's thoughts

I am laid up a couple of weeks now and will spend a bit of time with the map I reckon. Keen for some side tracks for sure. I think we can maybe have a bit of a chat about it at Daulhousie too but a suggested route will work.

The tracks could be getting quite busy so a diversion route could be much better for us.

GU CAMPER
5th June 2014, 03:22 PM
I am laid up a couple of weeks now and will spend a bit of time with the map I reckon. Keen for some side tracks for sure. I think we can maybe have a bit of a chat about it at Daulhousie too but a suggested route will work. The tracks could be getting quite busy so a diversion route could be much better for us.

Just thinking would be good to know if going to take the extra side tracks etc. so people can work out fuel needs before getting to Dalhousie.
As I guess we would need a lot more fuel than just the French line. Which I think is the most talked about fuel consumption needs. Correct me if I'm wrong

MudRunnerTD
5th June 2014, 03:33 PM
Grabbed this quote from a few pages back.


Giving the fuel usage some thought guys, we may decide to detour along a couple of the side tracks if the traffic is heavy and we want to mix it up a little. THere are a couple of Land Marks worth viewing. The link above indicates that Daulhousie to Birdsville is 438kms and as Dr Gary indicates the distance to Mt Dare should also be considered.

Mt Dare are recommending carrying 150lt of fuel and usage will be between 120 and 140lt for a diesel assuming a good safety margin. Plenty of folks quoting 95lt used though!. I will probably carry at least a jerry can on the roof which will then give me a total of 195lts which should be heaps.

http://www.exploroz.com/Forum/Topic/46924/Simpson_Desert_Crossingfuel_consumption.aspx

Having a bit of a read around and most folks are averaging less than 19lt/100 and we all should do it easily. Taking a little extra each should allow us to do some diversions given we are in no hurry.

Looking forward to it.


Just thinking would be good to know if going to take the extra side tracks etc. so people can work out fuel needs before getting to Dalhousie.
As I guess we would need a lot more fuel than just the French line. Which I think is the most talked about fuel consumption needs. Correct me if I'm wrong

Yep would be good for everyone to consider a little extra for sure, most have twin tanks and a decent capacity but maybe an extra jerry each could give us a little flexibility.

Hey how is your car man? Last time I saw it it was on a tow truck

GU CAMPER
5th June 2014, 05:02 PM
Just had a quick look at my desert maps.
It says 507km from mount dare to birdsville via French line and qaa line. Ie the most direct route

Will have a look at other routes and see how far it is

AB
5th June 2014, 07:06 PM
Just confirming that cooked veges are ok?

Planning on cooking up and freezing some lasagne and stir fry's and freezing?

Another ignorant AB question as well...

I'm assuming no one is bringing their own wood? What's the plan with wood, are we just chipping in for servo bags somewhere up there or???

MudRunnerTD
5th June 2014, 07:23 PM
I reckon every car should buy a bag of servo wood and put it on the roof. If every car had a bag we should have a great fire every night. Wood in the desert will be scarce.

AB
5th June 2014, 07:28 PM
I reckon every car should buy a bag of servo wood and put it on the roof. If every car had a bag we should have a great fire every night. Wood in the desert will be scarce.

Can we take wood up from vic?

I know it's added weight but...

Servo wood is crap and expensive

the evil twin
5th June 2014, 07:40 PM
As prev asked...

Where are we meeting/camping, Dalhousie or 3 O'clock

Dalhousie will be busy as buggery... are we going to try and scam spots there or go to 3 O'clock?

the evil twin
5th June 2014, 07:47 PM
Well, I've got about 90% of my truck build sorted so I'll hopefully start on my Camper tomorra...

AB
5th June 2014, 07:54 PM
As prev asked...

Where are we meeting/camping, Dalhousie or 3 O'clock

Dalhousie will be busy as buggery... are we going to try and scam spots there or go to 3 O'clock?

Hey ET, whats the distance between the two?

snicko
5th June 2014, 07:54 PM
Just confirming that cooked veges are ok?

Planning on cooking up and freezing some lasagne and stir fry's and freezing?

Another ignorant AB question as well...

I'm assuming no one is bringing their own wood? What's the plan with wood, are we just chipping in for servo bags somewhere up there or???

AB, I have cooked up most of our dinners and frozen them as we have a freezer on board as well as our fridge so should be all good.

We have collected a heap of wooden pallets that no one wants so will break them up, stick them in a bag and bring with us.

the evil twin
5th June 2014, 08:32 PM
Hey ET, whats the distance between the two?

less than 10 minutes by vehicle apparently.

I haven't a clue how many sites there are at Dalhousie as I haven't been to either but Internet trolling, which can be unreliable, indicates
Dalhousie
Limited sites and full by mid afternoon
Sites become avail after mid morning as people depart and before others arrive
Camping is within short walk to springs
Limited Shade (if any)
Dunnies
Shower (says cold but I think they mean cold bore water which is warm)

3 Oclock Creek (is considered the Dalhousie overflow area when no sites left at Dalhousie)
No Dunnies
No Shower
Lots of Shade
Has a Shelter or something similar
Informal sites IE you can group up or spread out
Drinking water tank
Some regulars camp here first night and grab best avail site at Dalhousie next day
Other regulars stay here 'cause it's better camping and commute to the Spring as req'd

I'm happy with either option... just thinking it might be tough to get all of us in at Dalhousie
Depends if people are happy to wing it for a night at 3 O'clock if they get in later in the day and Dalhousie is full (or some just stay there and we can meet wherever for drinkies and lies till we bugger off)

the evil twin
5th June 2014, 08:34 PM
Courtesy of the link below

Dalhousie Springs Campground – The campsite at Dalhousie Springs is a large very dusty area. There are different size bays suitable for single, a couple of campers or groups. Many of the sites have fire pits but you must bring your own wood in. There is a toilet block with toilets and cold showers. There is also parking for day visitors, short walk to the hot springs.

13kms up the Mt Dare road from Dalhousie. From a camping point of view better than Dalhousie but of course it doesn’t have the springs or toilets. But lots of tress and rocky ground so not as dusty but would be quieter and you can camp down by the river. Drinking water available.

Link to piccies http://letsgotravelaustralia.com/tag/sa/

AB
5th June 2014, 08:52 PM
I haven't been there since its all been segregated off but by the sounds of it and the event in birdsville we may have buckleys of fitting us all in there.

I guess if we can wing a spot to house us all whoever turns up first then great but looks like we may have to venture down to 3 o'clock.

I reckon Darren, Winnie, Rossco and I will be there early as we are leaving on Thursday and no doubt we will soldier on for an easy Sunday arrival.

TPC
5th June 2014, 09:01 PM
I camped at Dalhousie for a night July 2010 and it was packed.
We arrived late arvo and all the spots were taken so we blocked off part of the track between the sites with our cars and put our swags in-between, was not ideal.

MudRunnerTD
5th June 2014, 09:02 PM
As prev asked...

Where are we meeting/camping, Dalhousie or 3 O'clock

Dalhousie will be busy as buggery... are we going to try and scam spots there or go to 3 O'clock?


Hi ET

The meetup was called for Dalhousie so that is where we should meet at this stage mate. There is a slim possibility that a random member may turn up as there is still a little interest in other threads.

Also to be honest I have No Idea where 3oclock is bud ;) we are actually heading up a couple of days earlier than the victorian School Holidays so may actually beat some of the crowd. Keen to sit in the hot springs for a bit too

Winnie
5th June 2014, 09:05 PM
Oh yeah imagine us chilling in the hot spring with a cold beer... Can't wait!!!

MudRunnerTD
5th June 2014, 09:08 PM
The above post I wrote a couple of hours ago and forgot to post it. Lol.

Dalhousie is actually quite large. Lots of coralled areas and a few will be there possibly a da early even and will grab an appropriate sized corale. We should be fine. It not then down the road we go lol.

the evil twin
5th June 2014, 09:09 PM
I'll be in somewhere between Friday and Sunday depending on... depending on... uuuummmm... so many different things I can't think of them all.

I'm roughly planning on
Mon night - Niagra Dam
Tue night - Giles (morning tour and look around)
Wed/Thu/ maybe Fri - Yulara
maybe Fri/Sat nite - Dalhousie

MudRunnerTD
5th June 2014, 09:11 PM
In terms of hot showers at Dalhousie, the springs are about 39d or more and are large with room for maybe 500 people if you needed to. More likely 50 but it's huge. The section where the stair case is and most swim or sit is about chest depth and people just hang. It's great. We will find a good spot guys.

I have been to Dalhousie a couple of times but never camped there. I think we will be fne to be honest.

Winnie
5th June 2014, 09:12 PM
Us Vic boys need to work out where we are gonna meet. I was thinking somewhere on the other side of Melbourne where we'll all be driving through so nobody has to go out of their way.

Stropp
5th June 2014, 09:37 PM
Yes I am leaving Tuesday or Wednesday but won't be stopping too much except Giles and possibly Ayers Rock depending on what happens but hope to arrive sat or Sunday night, I think if we get there we can rope off a couple of areas on Tuesday morning after others leave so we can have room for the others.

MudRunnerTD
5th June 2014, 09:41 PM
Yes I am leaving Tuesday or Wednesday but won't be stopping too much except Giles and possibly Ayers Rock depending on what happens but hope to arrive sat or Sunday night, I think if we get there we can rope off a couple of areas on Tuesday morning after others leave so we can have room for the others.

Yeah thinking the same thing mate.

If you have the time I highly recommend that you also stop at the Olgas which are quite extraordinary! Completely different to Ularu and if your taking the rd I think you are you will actually come out about 5 kms from the Olgas on the Olgas rd.

AB
5th June 2014, 09:44 PM
Rossco is heading up earlier and wants to meet us at Horsham as he is visiting olds first.

Stropp
5th June 2014, 10:05 PM
Yeah thinking the same thing mate.

If you have the time I highly recommend that you also stop at the Olgas which are quite extraordinary! Completely different to Ularu and if your taking the rd I think you are you will actually come out about 5 kms from the Olgas on the Olgas rd.


Yes will probably drop in there but have been to both but a long time ago.

MudRunnerTD
5th June 2014, 10:16 PM
Rossco is heading up earlier and wants to meet us at Horsham as he is visiting olds first.

We are more likely to head North West up to Mildura and then across the RENMARK and Berri. Rossco may go another way from Horsham and meet us at RENMARK or Berri I reckon.

We will probably aim for Berri or something on Day 1 mate.

Stropp
5th June 2014, 10:22 PM
When do anticipate arriving in kulgera ? Maybe able to meet there.

MudRunnerTD
5th June 2014, 10:29 PM
When do anticipate arriving in kulgera ? Maybe able to meet there.

We will probably go up the Oodnadatta Tk and head into Dalhousie, maybe setup a base camp and claim a spot them head to Mt Dare for fuel.

May try and make Burra on the first night. I need to get a paper map out.

Stropp
6th June 2014, 05:45 PM
ok now im getting really excited i will probably leave on sunday the 22nd after i pack the car, literally cant wait any longer.

Clunk
6th June 2014, 06:23 PM
ok now im getting really excited i will probably leave on sunday the 22nd after i pack the car, literally cant wait any longer.

Don't forget to pack your incontinent pants ;)

Stropp
6th June 2014, 10:19 PM
Don't forget to pack your incontinent pants ;)

:tease::tease::

the evil twin
7th June 2014, 12:11 AM
... are incontinent pants different to centre of the continent pants?

AB
7th June 2014, 09:15 AM
Just realised this is my last weekend to get the car ready before the trip as we have the expo all next weekend!!!

Holy crap!!!!

Winnie
7th June 2014, 10:34 AM
This is my last weekend too but I won't be doing anything with the car... lol.
I have the whole week before we leave off so will do my service then.

MudRunnerTD
7th June 2014, 10:41 AM
Just realised this is my last weekend to get the car ready before the trip as we have the expo all next weekend!!!

Holy crap!!!!


Hey Buggerlugs!!! "Caps On" THE EXPO IS NOT NEXT WEEKEND!!!! It's the following weekend! ;)

Bloodyaussie
7th June 2014, 10:42 AM
Hey Buggerlugs!!! "Caps On" THE EXPO IS NOT NEXT WEEKEND!!!! It's the following weekend! ;)

Who left that bozo in charge ??????

Winnie
7th June 2014, 10:56 AM
Hey Buggerlugs!!! "Caps On" THE EXPO IS NOT NEXT WEEKEND!!!! It's the following weekend! ;)

Hahahaha onya AB!!!!

AB
7th June 2014, 12:03 PM
I had an absolute brain fade this morning and severely freaked out with the amount of work I need to do then realised its not next weekend...lol

I crack myself up sometimes!!!

krbrooking
7th June 2014, 02:31 PM
I used some of that orange electrical condute when I did the south coast and it worked a treat. The wall is about 2-3mm thick and the pole was about 25mm thick overall. It didn't sip around too much at all and even withstood hitting branches. I will dig it out and take a pic and some true measurements for ya's. Then all you need is the flag.

PS. I am so jealous of you all.


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Winnie
7th June 2014, 02:39 PM
I used some of that orange electrical condute when I did the south coast and it worked a treat. The wall is about 2-3mm thick and the pole was about 25mm thick overall. It didn't sip around too much at all and even withstood hitting branches. I will dig it out and take a pic and some true measurements for ya's. Then all you need is the flag.

PS. I am so jealous of you all.

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That's just 25mm HD conduit, at 3m long it will be too bendy

MudRunnerTD
7th June 2014, 02:58 PM
I used some of that orange electrical condute when I did the south coast and it worked a treat. The wall is about 2-3mm thick and the pole was about 25mm thick overall. It didn't sip around too much at all and even withstood hitting branches. I will dig it out and take a pic and some true measurements for ya's. Then all you need is the flag.

PS. I am so jealous of you all.


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Was that t the new regulation height of 3.5m though? That's bloody long!!

AB
7th June 2014, 05:26 PM
Roofy, do you want me to bring this bad boy along?

Still got some growth from last trip. Ready to roll old mate!!!

threedogs
7th June 2014, 05:40 PM
Roofy, do you want me to bring this bad boy along?

Still got some growth from last trip. Ready to roll old mate!!!

that is so wrong on so many levels lol

AB
7th June 2014, 05:58 PM
that is so wrong on so many levels lol

What do you mean?

Once that melts it brings out the flavours of the last meal which soaks into the new meal.

You old blokes don't know what your missing...lol

Sir Roofy
7th June 2014, 06:05 PM
What do you mean?

Once that melts it brings out the flavours of the last meal which soaks into the new meal.

You old blokes don't know what your missing...lol

your one sick puppy AB you cook up in that and we,l leave you where you fall
that's bloody just plain lazy YUCK YUCK YUCK

TPC
7th June 2014, 08:34 PM
Roofy, do you want me to bring this bad boy along?

Still got some growth from last trip. Ready to roll old mate!!!
You slack bugger, clean and oil after every use.
That one is a stupid design with two wire handles, if you pick it up by one it will tip, they should only have one.

AB
7th June 2014, 08:52 PM
You slack bugger, clean and oil after every use.
That one is a stupid design with two wire handles, if you pick it up by one it will tip, they should only have one.

Yeah it's crap tony.

It's a friends one that has been at my house for ten years...lol

My one is the single handle.

That one is bollocks!!!

MudRunnerTD
7th June 2014, 08:54 PM
Yeah it's crap tony.

It's a friends one that has been at my house for ten years...lol

My one is the single handle.

That one is bollocks!!!

Nice friend you are! Remind me Never to lend you anything! That roof Rack better not come back with sh1t growing on it!!

AB
7th June 2014, 09:06 PM
Nice friend you are! Remind me Never to lend you anything! That roof Rack better not come back with sh1t growing on it!!

What roof rack?

I know nothing...lol

krbrooking
8th June 2014, 09:21 AM
If I remember I will take some pics next to the car and where I had it not sure of exact height but was pretty high.

I was actually surprised that it didn't bend that much Winnie.

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Bloodyaussie
8th June 2014, 09:32 AM
Nice friend you are! Remind me Never to lend you anything! That roof Rack better not come back with sh1t growing on it!!

Dont know what you are talking about Darren. .. ab said I could have the roof rack as it use to belong to some drop kick who he does not like. ..? Lol!!!

Winnie
8th June 2014, 01:15 PM
If I remember I will take some pics next to the car and where I had it not sure of exact height but was pretty high.

I was actually surprised that it didn't bend that much Winnie.

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I sussed out some conduit at work and to get a good amount of flex without being too flexy we would need 50mm conduit and that is massive, way too big.

threedogs
8th June 2014, 01:22 PM
I sussed out some conduit at work and to get a good amount of flex without being too flexy we would need 50mm conduit and that is massive, way too big.
Go look at cheap fishing rod blanks perfect for what you want and not too $$$ either

Winnie
8th June 2014, 01:51 PM
Go look at cheap fishing rod blanks perfect for what you want and not too $$$ either

Yep I think that's the go John. I'll just get a couple of cheap big hose clamps and a bit of rubber to put it on.

threedogs
8th June 2014, 03:48 PM
Yep I think that's the go John. I'll just get a couple of cheap big hose clamps and a bit of rubber to put it on.

Will work fine.
Unless you want to slide some dowell inside the conduit

krbrooking
8th June 2014, 05:22 PM
This is the flag I used, pretty sure it would have been high enough and as said before it did flex a bit but not as much as I thought it would.

This first one is obviously right on the beach and it was pretty windy just after the pics I turned to face the beach and lost my hat, which I had to chase after.

45462

45464

As you can see I used the yellow tube to fit the flag pole into.

45463

45465

MudRunnerTD
11th June 2014, 01:06 PM
20 days!! See you there.

Winnie
11th June 2014, 01:20 PM
Getting butterflies when I think about this trip now.... so freaking excited

AB
11th June 2014, 01:27 PM
Oops...2 weeks!!!....lol

the evil twin
11th June 2014, 02:30 PM
Are we there yet...
Are we there yet...
Are we there yet...
Are we there yet...
Are we there yet...
Are we there yet...
Are we there yet...
Are we there yet...
Are we there yet...
Are we there yet...
Are we there yet...
Are we there yet...
Are we there yet...
Are we there yet...

Sir Roofy
11th June 2014, 04:53 PM
Roofys boss here. Not 20 days. :) 11 Days and we are off. Really can't come quick enough now.

Maxhead
11th June 2014, 05:22 PM
I'm bloody excited for the whole lot of ya pricks! so get stuffed:)

Winnie
11th June 2014, 05:26 PM
I'm bloody excited for the whole lot of ya pricks! so get stuffed:)

Well you're a quitter mate, you're just like all the other blokes who bail at the last minute... Dog!

Maxhead
11th June 2014, 05:38 PM
Well you're a quitter mate, you're just like all the other blokes who bail at the last minute... Dog!


I know, I know. I'll take this one on the chin but I never renig on a promise (usually)...LOL

AB
11th June 2014, 07:00 PM
Getting excited now!!!


At the olds house and the old lady just showed us some old photos of our trip in the 80's.

Dalehousie and big red.

Winnie
11th June 2014, 07:21 PM
Thanks for sharing Andy, very cool

Sir Roofy
11th June 2014, 07:26 PM
yeah thanks andy looking forward to it

AB
11th June 2014, 07:59 PM
Classic...


AB in 10 years when he goes bush...lol

jack
11th June 2014, 08:02 PM
Classic...
AB in 10 years when he goes bush...lol

So that's what this mythical rooftop bag will look like.

AB
11th June 2014, 08:25 PM
The good ol days, just gaffa tape a red hanky to your UHF aerial...lets roll...lol

Sir Roofy
11th June 2014, 08:58 PM
Classic...


AB in 10 years when he goes bush...lol

and would that be a young ab in the back ground?

growler2058
11th June 2014, 09:16 PM
and would that be a young ab in the back ground? Wooih that's a hell of a head of hair couldn't be Andy hahahaha

AB
11th June 2014, 09:42 PM
You mean the chick in the background with the Afro?

That's my mum Roofy...lol

Roofy mate...jeesh!!!

Winnie
11th June 2014, 10:19 PM
You mean the chick in the background with the Afro?

That's my mum Roofy...lol

Roofy mate...jeesh!!!

Are you SURE it's not you?

Clunk
11th June 2014, 10:32 PM
Getting excited now!!!


At the olds house and the old lady just showed us some old photos of our trip in the 80's.

Dalehousie and big red.

Could at least of scanned them so we could see them properly ya slacker ;)

Stropp
11th June 2014, 10:43 PM
Just 10 days for me now :)

AB
12th June 2014, 06:27 AM
Are you SURE it's not you?

Pretty damn sure mate, I was 8 years old on the first simmo trip and I didn't have boobies...

Sir Roofy
12th June 2014, 08:18 AM
pretty damn sure mate, i was 8 years old on the first simmo trip and i didn't have boobies...

you have your dads looks and your mums hair then and passed it on to mia
i remember now you saying you was 8 then

Sir Roofy
12th June 2014, 08:24 AM
just 10 days for me now :)

we might arrive about the same time

AB
12th June 2014, 06:21 PM
Starting to pack for the trip...

MudRunnerTD
12th June 2014, 06:23 PM
Starting to pack for the trip...

Told you that roof rack was tough as sh1t!!! Imagine how organized you load would be with a rooftop bag mate!!

Stropp
12th June 2014, 09:57 PM
I finally have everything finished on the patrol, until I think of something else :) it's been a hectic couple of weeks getting it completed and I still have a couple of things I would like to do but it's not necessary to do. Now it's just getting the patrol packed up and organised. Roll on Sunday week :) yee haa

the evil twin
12th June 2014, 10:01 PM
snip...
I finally have everything finished on the patrol...

Lucky bastard.
The only thing finished here is that tablet crap what goes in ya dishwasher :drunk:

GU CAMPER
13th June 2014, 05:34 PM
Unfortunately I have to pull out of this trip.
I have had to also put a stop to my current trip around the country
I have been given an opportunity in which I can't refuse.
Have fun out there. Take heaps of pics for us and enjoy
I'm pissed off but happy for the opportunity at the same time

Sir Roofy
13th June 2014, 05:41 PM
that's a bugger was looking forward to a catch up
good luck with your new job

AB
13th June 2014, 09:36 PM
Unfortunately I have to pull out of this trip.
I have had to also put a stop to my current trip around the country
I have been given an opportunity in which I can't refuse.
Have fun out there. Take heaps of pics for us and enjoy
I'm pissed off but happy for the opportunity at the same time

Shame mate but you gotta do it!!!!

I'm personally having a meltdown this weekend as I have to pack everything and get my car and luggage 100% ready tomorrow.

I also need to to organise and pack everything in the Navara this weekend ready for the expo the following weekend.

I'm dreading this weekend and I know something will be missed!!!

the evil twin
13th June 2014, 09:50 PM
I always forget something, AB.
Once you get your head around the fact that it will always be that way, life gets a whole lot simpler... unless it's the Beer.
Forgetting the Beer is a real turd

AB
13th June 2014, 09:58 PM
I always forget something, AB.
Once you get your head around the fact that it will always be that way, life gets a whole lot simpler... unless it's the Beer.
Forgetting the Beer is a real turd

The scary part is ET is that I need to use my camping chairs and tables at the expo next weekend so they are going in the Navara.

I am almost certain I will forget to put them in the gq during the following week!!!

the evil twin
13th June 2014, 10:04 PM
The scary part is ET is that I need to use my camping chairs and tables at the expo next weekend so they are going in the Navara.

I am almost certain I will forget to put them in the gq during the following week!!!

2 Cartons of Beer, mate...
One Carton on end is a perfect height for a seat and the other on your knees is a perfect table
See, told ya life is simple

TPC
14th June 2014, 10:11 AM
2 Cartons of Beer, mate...
One Carton on end is a perfect height for a seat and the other on your knees is a perfect table
See, told ya life is simple
That only works until you need to drink them.

the evil twin
14th June 2014, 10:37 AM
That only works until you need to drink them.

Nah, after I drink cartons of beer I lie drooling and comatose on the ground for a day or so therefore no table or chair req'd :trink13:

MudRunnerTD
14th June 2014, 10:42 AM
Nah man you wanna get onto the wine casks!! When they're finished and your smashed you can blow up the bag and use as a pillow so your comatosed sleep can be done in comfort. If ou drink red you don't even need fridge space.


Play hard!

AB
14th June 2014, 11:04 AM
Sounds like there will be plenty of seats available around camp then after you blokes have a few cold ones...lol

Stropp
14th June 2014, 11:18 AM
i cant find jim beam in goon bags so i may just have to clean a couple out and fill em myself lol :1062:

AB
14th June 2014, 04:47 PM
Car is mechanically ready to go with plenty of spares.

Just need food, clothes and beer!

Navara is packed ready to go to the expo as well!

What a day!!!

Being it on gents and snicko!!!!

Sir Roofy
14th June 2014, 05:32 PM
car is mechanically ready to go with plenty of spares.

Just need food, clothes and beer!

Navara is packed ready to go to the expo as well!

What a day!!!


being it on gents and snicko!!!!

and kat and jane

threedogs
14th June 2014, 05:36 PM
@ Stropp get one of those camel dehydration bac pacs , I did and will be using it
as a Bundy and Coke dispenser up along the Murray, just a thought

AB
14th June 2014, 06:15 PM
and kat and jane

Where is kat Roofy, get her back on here...lol

I'm having words with her at this meet up!!!

AB
14th June 2014, 06:46 PM
Also...we may be paranoid about the whippyness of the sand flag poles.

Rossco has bought a proper combo pole and flag set up from a well known brand and its more whippeyer then a mr whippy convention!!!

Holding it vertically I can easily shake left to right and it almost does a complete 180.

Maxhead
14th June 2014, 06:52 PM
Also...we may be paranoid about the whippyness of the sand flag poles.

Rossco has bought a proper combo pole and flag set up from a well known brand and its more whippeyer then a mr whippy convention!!!

Holding it vertically I can easily shake left to right and it almost does a complete 180.

My old UglyStick does that too...lol

MudRunnerTD
14th June 2014, 06:54 PM
Also...we may be paranoid about the whippyness of the sand flag poles.

Rossco has bought a proper combo pole and flag set up from a well known brand and its more whippeyer then a mr whippy convention!!!

Holding it vertically I can easily shake left to right and it almost does a complete 180.

I priced a cheap surf rod today for $49 from BCF long enough. I need about a 9foot rod which will be 2.7 above the bar and give me the 3.5m

AB
14th June 2014, 06:57 PM
I priced a cheap surf rod today for $49 from BCF long enough. I need about a 9foot rod which will be 2.7 above the bar and give me the 3.5m

After seeing rosscos I'm confident my rods and a legit flag will be fine to be honest.

I have a dozen so triple up rods will be ample!

MudRunnerTD
14th June 2014, 06:58 PM
After seeing rosscos I'm confident my rods and a legit flag will be fine to be honest.

I have a dozen so triple up rods will be ample!

Are they long enough mate? Can you bring some to the Show for me

AB
14th June 2014, 07:05 PM
Are they long enough mate? Can you bring some to the Show for me

I have 12....They are 2m long.

I know this sounds dodgy but if Winnie can use his conduit (which will be 100% fine) you and I can use 3 and 3 each gaffa tapped together to create a 3-4m high pole and I can promise that is ample mate. These rods are solid 8mm high density plastic and they will be fine...

I will bet my left one that this set up will be less whippy then a proper manufactured set up.

AB
14th June 2014, 07:25 PM
Ill make a set up tomoz as above Dazz and let you know just in case...lol

Sir Roofy
14th June 2014, 07:54 PM
Wow the dodgey brothers thought you where going
to check out the ones at the show

AB
14th June 2014, 08:12 PM
Wow the dodgey brothers thought you where going
to check out the ones at the show

Ill have a look Roofy, as long as the prices arnt ridiculous I'm sure we could end up with a proper one.

snicko
14th June 2014, 08:18 PM
I have 12....They are 2m long.

I know this sounds dodgy but if Winnie can use his conduit (which will be 100% fine) you and I can use 3 and 3 each gaffa tapped together to create a 3-4m high pole and I can promise that is ample mate. These rods are solid 8mm high density plastic and they will be fine...

I will bet my left one that this set up will be less whippy then a proper manufactured set up.

Careful AB..............Every time hubbie bets his left one he looses it!!!!

AB
14th June 2014, 08:29 PM
Careful AB..............Every time hubbie bets his left one he looses it!!!!

I always carry a spare old mate..lol

Winnie
14th June 2014, 08:38 PM
Really Andy... Maybe the conduit will be okay! Haha

AB
14th June 2014, 08:42 PM
Really Andy... Maybe the conduit will be okay! Haha

Kev is from wa mate and he would of used conduit all the time. I reckon that's fine bud.

Happy to be shot down from others though...lol

the evil twin
14th June 2014, 08:51 PM
I use a 'mine spec' centre roof mount with LED that is almost as rigid as a steel pole and an old 27 meg HF fibreglass stick that is whippy as of the front bar depending on what I am doing and where I am.

At 40 kph or less who gives a rats how whippy it is and in actual use the whippy flags are easier to spot in the bush anyway.

GU CAMPER
14th June 2014, 08:52 PM
I used a black widow sand flag whilst I was driving around the dunes etc around beachport and robe last week. I found it to be extremely flexing to the point it would flex back to my roof rack on the cab when I had the three poles connected. If I only had two poles connected it wasn't too bad. Only thing is it wasn't high enough for legal height for Simpson as it needs to be 3.5 metres above ground

Ps. I have a black widow flag and pole set up if anyone wants to borrow for the Simpson trip. As I can no longer make the trip. I won't be needing it

Stropp
14th June 2014, 09:18 PM
This is mine, extendable but rigid as and no spring base but I made one up during the week but I think the spring is not strong enough but I guess it will do for the Simpson it's not like we will be doing 100kph or will we lol.
45803

MudRunnerTD
14th June 2014, 09:24 PM
This is mine, extendable but rigid as and no spring base but I made one up during the week but I think the spring is not strong enough but I guess it will do for the Simpson it's not like we will be doing 100kph or will we lol.
45803

I have an adjustable Paint Roller handle that is long enough and looks just like that but was concerned that is was Rigid and i might take it out on a tree or something?? Might go with what AB has i reckon.

Stropp
14th June 2014, 09:36 PM
I have an adjustable Paint Roller handle that is long enough and looks just like that but was concerned that is was Rigid and i might take it out on a tree or something?? Might go with what AB has i reckon.

Yeh I got a heavy spring and welded a thread off a bolt to it but she flops around a bit so eventually I will source another heavier spring, also don't think we will see too many trees out there :) I will just leave it off travelling to a from the Simpson.

snicko
14th June 2014, 10:24 PM
I have been reading this thread about the flags and am not sure what the go is.....

Is having a whip a good thing or not?

MudRunnerTD
14th June 2014, 11:26 PM
I have been reading this thread about the flags and am not sure what the go is.....

Is having a whip a good thing or not?

It's more about the thing standing up and not being so flexible that it hits your cab every time you go over a big bump. It would drive you nuts.

snicko
14th June 2014, 11:50 PM
It's more about the thing standing up and not being so flexible that it hits your cab every time you go over a big bump. It would drive you nuts.

Thats OK then. We have had our flag (3.8m) for years and its a solid with no whip. The only thing wrong is the flag size.

AB
15th June 2014, 08:29 PM
Well I'm packed, ready to go!!!


Going to be a long week and a half!!!

I told Rossco well meet him around Renmark way.

Darren and Winnie have we organised a meeting point/time yet?

Winnie
15th June 2014, 08:58 PM
Darren and Winnie have we organised a meeting point/time yet?

No we have not!

MudRunnerTD
15th June 2014, 09:06 PM
What day are we leaving? Wednesday? Or Thursday?

AB
15th June 2014, 09:40 PM
What day are we leaving? Wednesday? Or Thursday?

Thursday mate, I can't do Wednesday.

I'm happy for a super early leave Thursday morning though and get some Kms under us...

AB
15th June 2014, 09:43 PM
Bendigo?


8am 9am?

Winnie
15th June 2014, 09:47 PM
I am happy with Bendigo at 9am

liftlid
16th June 2014, 09:15 AM
I had to make my flag longer as I used to cable tie it to my tall UHF ant.
Used a short length of conduit that slides over the UHF ant and cable tied the flag to it

Rossco
16th June 2014, 07:26 PM
Hi guys,

At this stage looks like I will be leaving mid Thursday and staying a night in Horsham Thursday night, but will see how things go with work, there is a slight chance I can push it back another day. Thinking of spending a night at Mt Remarkable, then probably another around Coward Sprigs area, then one more day to Dalhousie. Will stay in touch to see how things pan out, would be good to hook up with the convoy.

Does anyone know the conditions of the Oodnadatta - Mt Dare road. I'm sure it's all good just wondering slow going it will be? All roads seem to be open and in good nick.

Winnie
16th June 2014, 07:40 PM
Hi guys,

At this stage looks like I will be leaving mid Thursday and staying a night in Horsham Thursday night, but will see how things go with work, there is a slight chance I can push it back another day. Thinking of spending a night at Mt Remarkable, then probably another around Coward Sprigs area, then one more day to Dalhousie. Will stay in touch to see how things pan out, would be good to hook up with the convoy.

Does anyone know the conditions of the Oodnadatta - Mt Dare road. I'm sure it's all good just wondering slow going it will be? All roads seem to be open and in good nick.

You're a week early! Haha

Rossco
16th June 2014, 07:59 PM
You're a week early! Haha

I wish !! Don't think that will happen Winnie! LOL

AB
16th June 2014, 08:06 PM
Let us know how you go next week Rossco, would be great if you can get that extra day mate...

Well work something out I'm sure!

It's really starting to sink in now....can't wait!!!

the evil twin
16th June 2014, 08:11 PM
Another step closer... printed off my permits for the Great Central Road today.

Winnie
16th June 2014, 08:20 PM
My car is booked at my mechanics on Thursday to do brake and clutch fluids and just do a bit of an inspection, and install my new Superior engine mounts and door hinges. (I got real lazy)
Booked for the auto electrician on Monday to wire up my fuel gauge for the sub tank, monday/Tuesday I will change all fluids and pack the car... Wednesday I will sit at home as nervous as can be and probably won't get a wink of sleep that night Hahaha!
I am freaking out, so excited!

AB
16th June 2014, 09:19 PM
My car is booked at my mechanics on Thursday to do brake and clutch fluids and just do a bit of an inspection, and install my new Superior engine mounts and door hinges. (I got real lazy)
Booked for the auto electrician on Monday to wire up my fuel gauge for the sub tank, monday/Tuesday I will change all fluids and pack the car... Wednesday I will sit at home as nervous as can be and probably won't get a wink of sleep that night Hahaha!
I am freaking out, so excited!

I'm thinking Bendigo maccas at 9am Winnie.

That way I know ill be up at 5am eager to go and will probably just leave so you'll see me at McDonald's on my fifth coffee shaking with anxiety...lol

Rossco
16th June 2014, 09:22 PM
Let us know how you go next week Rossco, would be great if you can get that extra day mate...

Well work something out I'm sure!

It's really starting to sink in now....can't wait!!!

Yeah, we'll see how we go, hopefully. You guys got any stop overs planned or just see where you get to as you travel?

It is getting bloody close, cant wait!!

Still a bit of work to go on the 4by. Nearly there getting some new rubber next week ($$$$ ouch). It's sure been getting a bit of love lately :)

Winnie
16th June 2014, 09:29 PM
I'm thinking Bendigo maccas at 9am Winnie.

That way I know ill be up at 5am eager to go and will probably just leave so you'll see me at McDonald's on my fifth coffee shaking with anxiety...lol
Yep sounds good mate. I will be the same haha... Can't sleep so might as well drive!


Still a bit of work to go on the 4b y. Nearly there getting some new rubber next week ($$$$ ouch). It's sure been getting a bit of love lately :)

What did you end up getting?

Rossco
16th June 2014, 09:38 PM
KM 2's. It was between them and MTZ's and the BF's won! Can't wait to get heaps of road k's on them and wear em out a bit !!

Rear drawers are nearly done, just waiting for some t handles from Ebay and a few other bits and pieces. I took a bit of inspiration from your truck Winnie, hope it's not copyrighted LOL.

Winnie
16th June 2014, 09:45 PM
If I had known, I have some stainless t handles here you could have had, I bought them for when I was gonna build my drawers but then laziness got the better of me again and I bought some haha

Winnie
16th June 2014, 09:52 PM
I made a sand flag pole today... Lots of skills involved and very technical. 2 piece conduit pole! Darren reckons the screwed join may be a weak point and I hope he's wrong but if he's right (he usually is) then I still have the bell on one end of the conduit so will join there and tape the crap out of it haha.

EDIT: Black Widow list the flag only as an available part on their website with retail price $35. I will order one tomorrow.

Rossco
16th June 2014, 09:58 PM
If I had known, I have some stainless t handles here you could have had, I bought them for when I was gonna build my drawers but then laziness got the better of me again and I bought some haha

Spewin!! If they don't come in the mail soon I might have to grab em!

Flag looks good. As AB mentioned I went all out and bought a ridgy dige proper sand flag. At three meters it sure wobbles around a bit. Haven't tried it on the car yet, might put it on on the weekend and see how it goes in the Hills. . . It's going to drive me bonkers I reckon!

Winnie
16th June 2014, 10:05 PM
Let me know, I can post them up to you. Payback for the help with the sub tank =]

krbrooking
16th June 2014, 10:20 PM
You lucky buggers I so wish I was going on this.

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Winnie
17th June 2014, 07:41 AM
You lucky buggers I so wish I was going on this.

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Come on then what is stopping you!

Sir Roofy
17th June 2014, 10:47 AM
i made a sand flag pole today... Lots of skills involved and very technical. 2 piece conduit pole! Darren reckons the screwed join may be a weak point and i hope he's wrong but if he's right (he usually is) then i still have the bell on one end of the conduit so will join there and tape the crap out of it haha.

Edit: Black widow list the flag only as an available part on their website with retail price $35. I will order one tomorrow.

slip up to the safety shop opposite bursons r/works safety flag on a stick
$ 8.00

Winnie
17th June 2014, 11:16 AM
Thanks Roofy, you're the man!

snicko
17th June 2014, 03:16 PM
Just came back from the big smoke (1400k round trip) to get our batteries sorted and check the chip. All OK NOW.....but earlier!!!

Will post the out come in the Cooked battery thread.

Getting very excited now. Our trick next week is to train up the guy who is going to help look after our business while we are away and do stock take!!

Who's idea was it to go at the end of the financial Year?.....lol

So a very busy next week!! and not even holiday related!!

This week have to be all packed and ready to go.

As some of you guys are travelling together do you know (or guess) where you might be Saturday night 28th?

AB
17th June 2014, 05:14 PM
Hey snicko I'm seeing Darren on the weekend at the expo and ill get back to you on that unless he sees this in the next day or two.

Saturday night we will be either turning up to Dalhousie absolutely buggerd or somewhere on the Stuart one day away if we take the Stuart but ill get back to you mate.

Sir Roofy
17th June 2014, 05:26 PM
just came back from the big smoke (1400k round trip) to get our batteries sorted and check the chip. All ok now.....but earlier!!!

Will post the out come in the cooked battery thread.

Getting very excited now. Our trick next week is to train up the guy who is going to help look after our business while we are away and do stock take!!

Who's idea was it to go at the end of the financial year?.....lol

so a very busy next week!! And not even holiday related!!

This week have to be all packed and ready to go.

As some of you guys are travelling together do you know (or guess) where you might be saturday night 28th?

hey snicko where do you think you will be ?

MudRunnerTD
17th June 2014, 06:14 PM
We were going to head up the Oodnadatta. Given we will be grouped then probably play by ear. I have stayed at Coward Speings before and also Oodnadatta Road House but would be keen to just probably get it done. It will really depend on the condition of the Oodnadatta. Will probably roll into Dalhousie and set camp then head to Mt Dare for fuel and a Desert pass for me.

MudRunnerTD
17th June 2014, 06:15 PM
Roofy when are you plan ing to hit Dalhousie mate?

AB
17th June 2014, 07:01 PM
We were going to head up the Oodnadatta. Given we will be grouped then probably play by ear. I have stayed at Coward Speings before and also Oodnadatta Road House but would be keen to just probably get it done. It will really depend on the condition of the Oodnadatta. Will probably roll into Dalhousie and set camp then head to Mt Dare for fuel and a Desert pass for me.

If the condition of Oodnadatta track is good how long does that track take?

MudRunnerTD
17th June 2014, 07:08 PM
If the condition of Oodnadatta track is good how long does that track take?

100km/h cruising. Sorry I'd have to have a bit of a think about it with the map. Might bring the map on the weekend Ab

AB
17th June 2014, 07:15 PM
100km/h cruising. Sorry I'd have to have a bit of a think about it with the map. Might bring the map on the weekend Ab

Id prefer to go that way too if conditions are good...:)

Yay!!!

I want to leave now!!!

Rossco
17th June 2014, 07:35 PM
Let me know, I can post them up to you. Payback for the help with the sub tank =]

All good, everything turned up today so I can finally get it all finished.

Spoke to someone at work today who had just come down the Oodnadatta track from the Finke race. Sounds like it was a bit wet up there and a some roads were closed for a couple of days, but it's all good now. Hopefully it stays dry and open.

I've stayed at Coward Srpings before and it's defiantly a worthwhile stopover. Planning on staying there depending when I get on the road. See how we go might be able to meet up there even.

Sir Roofy
17th June 2014, 09:27 PM
roofy when are you plan ing to hit dalhousie mate?

hi darren ,if alls good on the track
about the 27th 28th theres a couple
of places i want to visit while there

snicko
17th June 2014, 11:01 PM
hey snicko where do you think you will be ?

Pt Augusta Friday night. If we can't meet up with anyone then via Coober Pedy to some where around Oodnadatta Saturday night

MudRunnerTD
18th June 2014, 10:13 AM
Hi Guys,

I was having a good look at the map last night and pretty keen to do a couple of the Southern tracks across (Rig Rd, WAA Line) can people please indicate how much fuel they will be carrying?

I will have 175Lt under the car and looking to take at least 1x20lt on the roof. May consider taking 2 Just incase. Please let me know if you are carrying less that 175lts please?

MudRunnerTD
18th June 2014, 10:19 AM
Also, i can confirm that the Oodnadatta is smooth and graded and will not slow us at all.

I am looking to return to Melbourne via the Corner Country (QLD, NSW, SA) then down through Broken Hill. This will likely add a day or 2 to the return trip. (last time when we did the Madigan we did 2 massive days in the car and drove Birdsville to Geelong in 2 days) No real need to do that. The trip through Broken Hill will be dependant of the roads being open as they close them if there is light rain.

I can Confirm that there is No Fires allowed at Dalhousie but no restrictions once into the desert park. I have a friend that was there at Easter and had little trouble finding fire wood on the WAA line but i would still like us to carry our own guys. Please all bring a Bag of Wood (Servo bag or similar) then we can always have a good sized fire that 20 can sit around.

Winnie
18th June 2014, 10:23 AM
I will have 170L under the car and a jerry can on the roof.

AB
18th June 2014, 10:55 AM
I will have 170L under the car and a jerry can on the roof.

X2 above....