Fuel dockets....

[NP99]

Now that the dockets have been capped at 4cpl I wonder if fuel will drop in price. It was insightful to see the dockets get up to 20cpl. It was their way of trapping us in the pricing racket...

[TPC]

Yes it will be interesting to see. I have a unused 40cpl docket, will use it in about 4 weeks when the tanks are empty.

[NP99]

40cpl just goes to show how they tried to screw us over...

[Covo71]

Yes, I have a 40c docket aswell that I will make sure I get the full 150lt. Who said it will be capped at 4c?

[NP99]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/woolworths-coles-cap-shopperdocket-fuel-discounts-at-4calitre/story-e6frg8zx-1226777085345

SUPERMARKET giants Woolworths and Coles have agreed to cap their 'shopper docket' fuel discount offers at just 4c per litre in a deal negotiated with the competition regulator.

The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) said it had accepted undertakings from both of the retailers that they would voluntarily cease making fuel discount offers that were cross-subsidised by other parts of their business, and limit fuel discounts linked to supermarket purchases to a maximum of 4c per litre from January 1.

ACCC chairman Rod Sims said the commission had investigated the shopper docket schemes and was concerned that higher-value offers, including 8c per litre discounts that were available for sustained periods in 2012 and 2013, "could have longer-term effects on the structure of the retail fuel markets, and also short term effects of increasing general pump prices in those markets''.

"Some fuel retailers had complained that they simply could not afford to match the supermarkets' fuel discounts of 8c or more, because those discounts were being funded from markets that were separate and unrelated to the fuel retailing markets,'' Mr Sims said.

"By removing the funding by supermarkets and limiting the supermarket offers to a maximum of 4c per litre, the ACCC considers that other fuel retailers will be able to compete on a more level playing field.''

Coles managing director Ian McLeod said he firmly believed the company had not broken the law with its fuel offers, but acknowledged the ACCC's concern that there could be adverse competition effects over time.

"Coles has worked hard to lower both the cost of a weekly shopping basket and provide better value at the fuel pump and we are pleased that the 4c per litre docket discount will remain in place for our customers,'' he said.

[Covo71]

So now they will just pocket the extra profit they were putting in to the fuel dockets. The ACCC working at their best again to screw us over.

[NP99]

Yes, we have been conditioned to accept $1.50 a litre as the norm :(

[BigRAWesty]

Total BS.. We're paying $1.52 for regular down here, everyday..
Im dreading the first time I fill the full long range setup when I get it in of diesel. I'm guessing not much change from $300...

[BigRAWesty]

We are really getting screwed.. Dollar is up, demand is normal, oil is down, yet still high fuel??

[Avo]

I love my JOB,get 200lt fuel a month,yes I use it.......F the shocker dockets

[TPC]

Could be worse, I believe the UK is around $2.50 P/L

[93patrol]

and thats pounds TPC but most of their cars are 1L buzz boxes

[TPC]

and thats pounds TPC but most of their cars are 1L buzz boxes
I did the conversion, their price is £1.38 or $2.50 approx., still bloody high.

[NP99]

It's still relative to their wages though....

[threedogs]

These are the prices we were paying when oil was $150 a barrel we whinged.
Now oil is a little over $100 a barrel and price per litre is the same , no one whinges we just complain,
I have about 6x 15 c a litre saved on my card.
@ Kallen costs me around $220 to fill 165 ltres. pending price per litre

[Winnie]

Thank god I have a company car now.

[NP99]

LPG overnight in Brisbane went up to 95cpl......

[Clunk]

It's still relative to their wages though....

Bollox is it, I get payed more here than I ever did in the UK........ Well apart from when I was working on the rigs in the north sea

[Clunk]

I still don't understand why the price at the bowser fluctuates on a daily basis. The servos don't get filled up everyday so they're not paying differing rates everyday....... Baffles me.

[NP99]

Bollox is it, I get payed more here than I ever did in the UK........ Well apart from when I was working on the rigs in the north sea

Still relative....

[Avo]

Still relative....

He's no ones relative..

[92GQ]

I still don't understand why the price at the bowser fluctuates on a daily basis. The servos don't get filled up everyday so they're not paying differing rates everyday....... Baffles me...

Agreed!!

[Bush Ranger]

It's still relative to their wages though....

I was thinking exactly the same.

[Bush Ranger]

I have heard recently, that if your vehicle runs on gas, you have to get the system checked / serviced every 12 months for safety reasons at $150. People don`t seem to be going for gas conversion much now, because of the cost of $150 and the price of gas is going up. A mechanic told me that.
Here is thought. If you have a 4c a litre off shopper docket, you go in to buy fuel and the servo has buy X amount and get 4c a litre off for fuel. Would you get 8c off altogether? It sounds like a dumb question (which it is) and or to good to be true, but it`s just a thought.

[liftlid]

I have heard recently, that if your vehicle runs on gas, you have to get the system checked / serviced every 12 months for safety reasons at $150. People don`t seem to be going for gas conversion much now, because of the cost of $150 and the price of gas is going up. A mechanic told me that.

I have 3 cars that run on gas and did not hear this what state is this in?

[Winnie]

Gas was 99.8c/L in Warragul yesterday. What is the point!

[threedogs]

Agree with Winnie it has to come to a point where its not worth filling up with gas in comparison to petrol prices .
My last 4x4 was dual fuel never again. @ nearly $1 a litre not for me then there is outback prices,
$10 worth of gas compared to $10 of petrol how far can you go ?

[liftlid]

Gas was 99.8c/L in Warragul yesterday. What is the point!

I've got gas diesel and petrol cars and the cheapest to run is the gas ones by far

[NP99]

I have heard recently, that if your vehicle runs on gas, you have to get the system checked / serviced every 12 months for safety reasons at $150. People don`t seem to be going for gas conversion much now, because of the cost of $150 and the price of gas is going up. A mechanic told me that.
Here is thought. If you have a 4c a litre off shopper docket, you go in to buy fuel and the servo has buy X amount and get 4c a litre off for fuel. Would you get 8c off altogether? It sounds like a dumb question (which it is) and or to good to be true, but it`s just a thought.

Sounds like an over servicing fee....

[mudnut]

Early on it made 'cents' to have a gas conversion. At 18 to 20 c/l it only took me 8 months to recoup the cost of the conversion as I was living away from home and doing a 750 km round trip every week, on top of my daily commute. The only way I would have gas on a vehicle now is if it became mandatory or was on it when I bought it. You and your families safety while in the converted vehicle comes down to how good the mechanics who fitted the system are. Believe me, I have seen some shocking workmanship.

[Winnie]

I've got gas diesel and petrol cars and the cheapest to run is the gas ones by far

Surely not at that price though.


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[threedogs]

@ Mudnut talking shoddy workmanship, My BIL had a gas conversion mob next door to his auto lec business. One old Italian guy would get the 90 ltr out of date tanks
He fitted two in the rear of his Dual cab Hilux on a timber frame made from Pallets . now talk about back yard stupidity

[P4trol]

The only way I use the dockets is when there is 15c minimum, and then I buy something else I need in store to get the extra 4c/L discount. If the vehicle I take won't fit 150L, I take jerry cans to get up to the maximum. Saves me $28.50. Of course diesel is at least $1.70/L

Otherwise I just buy from whoever I know doesn't have water in the fuel.

It's not worth lining up like the GN, aircon blazing for a 4c discount using your own money.

[kind]

Deisel is normally around $1.60 in Western sub of Brisbane and I only get about 500km to a 80L tank :(

[Bush Ranger]

I have 3 cars that run on gas and did not hear this what state is this in?

I heard of it in WA.

[liftlid]

Deisel is normally around $1.60 in Western sub of Brisbane and I only get about 500km to a 80L tank :(

What engine do you have?

[Bush Ranger]

Sounds like an over servicing fee....

Could be. By the sounds of it, it`s like the $33 dollar gas cylinder service fee that gets done every 12 months, for those house hold gas cylinders people use for their gas stoves at home. Can only be done by a licenced gas conversion installer and they have to make sure that it`s working correctly, leaks etc etc. Only going on on what I heard. Apologise for the side track.

[liftlid]

I heard of it in WA.

Just checked western aust dept of transport web site they only mention the 10 year inspection like VIC. Somebody might be able to shed some light on this?

[NP99]

Could be. By the sounds of it, it`s like the $33 dollar gas cylinder service fee that gets done every 12 months, for those house hold gas cylinders people use for their gas stoves at home. Can only be done by a licenced gas conversion installer and they have to make sure that it`s working correctly, leaks etc etc. Only going on on what I heard. Apologise for the side track.

Crazy, because they are a swap .......

[Bush Ranger]

Just checked western aust dept of transport web site they only mention the 10 year inspection like VIC. Somebody might be able to shed some light on this?


Might be for 10 years, haven`t gotten into it to find out. I have heard that 10 years were their use by date, similar to the gas bottles for camping and then they test the condition of the bottle and they`ll replace the valve. My father owns a vehicle with gas and the gas set up needs to be serviced every 12 months for correct operational work, leaks etc etc and the mechanic I spoke to owns the service station as well, so he`d would have some idea. He did say that people aren`t going for gas much these days, because it`s going up and up and there`s a $150 servicing every 12 months. Any way, some thing to think about.

[Bush Ranger]

Crazy, because they are a swap .......

Might be crazy, but there is a service fee of $33 per year in WA, was when I was using gas cylinders. Any way, can the 4c, 8c a litre shopper dockets be used when getting LPG?

[NP99]

Dockets can be used for LPG. Some servos don't though. It's printed on the pump when they don't accept them.

[BigRAWesty]

Here in sa you need gas inspections every 5 year's, and that means over the pits and $80 just to look at tags..

@TD, I'll be hauling 180L when done with the 75 lra sub and 105 modded main.

Gas lost its appeal when the gruberment stuck their noses in and rebated the instal costs. I think over night the cost of a gas system rose by $2000... So you never really saved any install costs.
And now with gas above half the price of petrol Its a double whammy..

[Bush Ranger]

Dockets can be used for LPG. Some servos don't though. It's printed on the pump when they don't accept them.

Thanks NP99 and Westy. I was in WA recently and in the country 230 Ks north of Perth, LPG was $1.20 cpl. Diesel was 50 cents more than that.

[NP99]

$1.20cpl for LPG. Theft!!!!

[MEGOMONSTER]

$1.58 for diesel is theft for suburbia.
Any docket is better than no docket.

[kind]

$1.58 for diesel is theft for suburbia.
Any docket is better than no docket.

Haha im happy to pay that was $1.66 yesterday and im 20 from brisbane CBD

[NP99]

$1.58 for diesel is theft for suburbia.
Any docket is better than no docket.

Agree, but dockets are one of the causes of fuel price increases.....

[threedogs]

@ Kallen you'll be looking at $250 plus a fill but that will last ages around town.
will give you a good range to so you can skip some fill points if travelling as well

[BigRAWesty]

@ Kallen you'll be looking at $250 plus a fill but that will last ages around town.
will give you a good range to so you can skip some fill points if travelling as well

Yea that's the aim.. Hopefully a fill monthly sorta thing..

[james008]

I paid $1.58 for diesel yesterday in Melbourne... Just over a year ago it was $1.35.
I hope the prices come down after Jan. 1

[dirtygu]

I payed $ 1.65ltr today for diesel wish it would come down almost cheaper to run my v8 commy and thats $1.72ltr for 98

[Matt195583]

Dockets are just a way to corner the market and once its cornered we are all screwed.

[BigRAWesty]

Dockets are just a way to corner the market and once its cornered we are all screwed.

Couldn't agree more. But it's just not the fuel.. It's everything..

[dirtygu]

What fuel is everyone using I only run bp ultimate diesel

[megatexture]

When I run out I fill up at the next one.

Edit: there are some I won't fill up at usually the small dodgy independant ones And I drive past servos with no hot box also lol

[NP99]

When I run out I fill up at the next one.

Edit: there are some I won't fill up at usually the small dodgy independant ones And I drive past servos with no hot box also lol

For me that includes Matilda's.