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28th November 2013, 04:53 PM
Hi guys, I recently had to put all my work tools in the back of the patrol and as a result wanted to install a decent alarm in it. I ended up with the Viper 5904 which is a 2 way system meaning if the sensors are triggered it will page my keys up to 1 mile away (Line of sight) and also has remote start.
Here is a PDF link to the model I have http://pdf.ampire.de/viper/N5904_2011-09b_web.pdf
Anyway I unboxed the thing and immediately broke into a cold sweat never having seen so many god damn wires in such a small box in my life.
After I un knotted my knickers I read the instructions (if you can call them that) and wasn't left too much more in the clear so I was wondering if someone could help me decipher these wiring harnesses (as in what does Ignition 1 input mean etc) and if possible point me in the direction of where that wire may be on my TB42S LWB 91 model.
I have installed aftermarket central locking to all doors including rear door myself so I assume the door lock harness is pretty simple (Green- Green and Blue - Blue). I will be removing the central locking harness and module obviously once this is installed.
Here's the wiring harnesses (My H2 harness varies slightly in pinout positions and numbers to the online pdf but the wire colours are the same eg. my (-) Neutral Safety/Parking brake input is H2/13 Black/White instead of H2/2 Black/White)
Wiring Connections
Main Harness (H1), 6-pin connector
H1/1 RED (+)12VDC CONSTANT INPUT
H1/2 BLACK (-) CHASSIS GROUND
H1/3 BROWN (+) SIREN OUTPUT
H1/4 WHITE/BROWN PARKING LIGHT ISOLATION WIRE - PIN 87a of onboard relay Is this meant to be the parking lamp relay if so being that the GQ runs full load current through the selector switch does this mean I goto the parker lamp common? what is the equivalent of 87a on my switch?
H1/5 WHITE PARKING LIGHT OUTPUT
H1/6 ORANGE (-) 500mA GROUND WHEN ARMED OUTPUT What's this mean?
H2 Harness, 24-pin connector
H2/1 PINK/WHITE (-) 200mA IGNITION/FLEX RELAY CONTROL OUTPUT Is this Ignition common? What is a flex relay?
H2/2 BLACK/WHITE (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY INPUT This goes to park brake switch I believe
H2/3 BLUE/WHITE (-) 200mA 2ND STATUS /REAR DEFOGGER OUTPUT Is this the output of the rear defog relay
H2/4 GREEN/BLACK (-) 200mA OEM ALARM DISARM OUTPUT I don't require this
H2/5 RED/WHITE (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT I don't require this
H2/6 GREEN (-) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT (N/C* OR N/O) Is this the door switches and if it is are they considered NC or NO, I would think NC because that's when they are in there natural position
H2/7 BLACK/YELLOW (-) 200mA DOME LIGHT SUPERVISION OUTPUT I don't require this
H2/8 BROWN/BLACK (-) 200mA HORN HONK OUTPUT I don't require this
H2/9 DARK BLUE (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT Unsure what this is
H2/10 PINK (-) 200mA IGNITION 1 OUTPUT Does this mean Key switch position 1 output?
H2/11 WHITE/BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 3 OUTPUT These are for optional accessories eg. sun roof open/close etc
H2/12 VIOLET (+) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT
H2/13 WHITE/VIOLET (-) 200mA AUX 1 OUTPUT These are for optional accessories eg. sun roof open/close etc
H2/14 VIOLET/BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 2 OUTPUTThese are for optional accessories eg. sun roof open/close etc
H2/15 ORANGE/BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 4 OUTPUTThese are for optional accessories eg. sun roof open/close etc
H2/16 BROWN (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT Could I just pick this up on the brake lamp switch?
H2/17 GREY (-) HOOD PIN INPUT (N/C OR N/O) This is for a bonnet switch to disable alarm to avoid remote start while working on engine
H2/18 VIOLET/YELLOW (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT Is this the negative of starter motor? I believe the module senses the starter current and VD on battery to sense when to stop cranking
H2/19 BLUE (-) TRUNK PIN/ INSTANT TRIGGER INPUT (N/C OR N/O) Unsure what this is
H2/20 GREY/BLACK (-) DIESEL WAIT TO START INPUT I don't require this
H2/21 WHITE/BLUE (-) REMOTE START/ TURBO TIMER ACTIVATION INPUT Unsure what this is
H2/22 ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT Accessory key position output?
H2/23 VIOLET/WHITE TACHOMETER INPUT Can I pick this up from the instrument cluster?
H2/24 GREEN/WHITE (-) 200mA OEM ALARM ARM OUTPUT I don't require this
*The Normally Closed setting will only work if one of the vehicle's doors is connected. If more than one door
is to be monitored, then it is recommended to use the Xpresskit DTIMAZDA or tech tip # 1921 on www.directechs.com to interface with these types of vehicles.
Remote Start, (H3) 10-pin connector This is the one I'm having the most trouble with, What's a flex relay? and ignition 1 input etc. what does that mean?
H3/1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT
H3/2 RED/WHITE (87) FLEX RELAY +12V INPUT (30A FUSED)
H3/3 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT
H3/4 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL)
H3/5 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL)
H3/6 RED IGNITION 1 +12V INPUT (30A FUSED)
H3/7 PINK/WHITE (30) FLEX RELAY OUTPUT (car side of ign, acc or starter wire)
H3/8 PINK/BLACK (87a) FLEX RELAY INPUT (key side of ign, acc or starter wire if needed)
H3/9 RED/BLACK ACCESSORY/STARTER RELAY +12V INPUT (30A FUSED)
H3/10 NC No Connection
Door Lock, 3-pin connector
1 BLUE (-) 500mA UNLOCK OUTPUT To Blue of my door lock solenoids?
2 EMPTY NOT USED
3 GREEN (-) 500mA LOCK OUTPUTTo Green of my door lock solenoids?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me out on this. I'm sure once I get going it'll come together, I'm not entirely unfamiliar with auto elec stuff but some of the terminology is throwing me off I think.
Here is a PDF link to the model I have http://pdf.ampire.de/viper/N5904_2011-09b_web.pdf
Anyway I unboxed the thing and immediately broke into a cold sweat never having seen so many god damn wires in such a small box in my life.
After I un knotted my knickers I read the instructions (if you can call them that) and wasn't left too much more in the clear so I was wondering if someone could help me decipher these wiring harnesses (as in what does Ignition 1 input mean etc) and if possible point me in the direction of where that wire may be on my TB42S LWB 91 model.
I have installed aftermarket central locking to all doors including rear door myself so I assume the door lock harness is pretty simple (Green- Green and Blue - Blue). I will be removing the central locking harness and module obviously once this is installed.
Here's the wiring harnesses (My H2 harness varies slightly in pinout positions and numbers to the online pdf but the wire colours are the same eg. my (-) Neutral Safety/Parking brake input is H2/13 Black/White instead of H2/2 Black/White)
Wiring Connections
Main Harness (H1), 6-pin connector
H1/1 RED (+)12VDC CONSTANT INPUT
H1/2 BLACK (-) CHASSIS GROUND
H1/3 BROWN (+) SIREN OUTPUT
H1/4 WHITE/BROWN PARKING LIGHT ISOLATION WIRE - PIN 87a of onboard relay Is this meant to be the parking lamp relay if so being that the GQ runs full load current through the selector switch does this mean I goto the parker lamp common? what is the equivalent of 87a on my switch?
H1/5 WHITE PARKING LIGHT OUTPUT
H1/6 ORANGE (-) 500mA GROUND WHEN ARMED OUTPUT What's this mean?
H2 Harness, 24-pin connector
H2/1 PINK/WHITE (-) 200mA IGNITION/FLEX RELAY CONTROL OUTPUT Is this Ignition common? What is a flex relay?
H2/2 BLACK/WHITE (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY INPUT This goes to park brake switch I believe
H2/3 BLUE/WHITE (-) 200mA 2ND STATUS /REAR DEFOGGER OUTPUT Is this the output of the rear defog relay
H2/4 GREEN/BLACK (-) 200mA OEM ALARM DISARM OUTPUT I don't require this
H2/5 RED/WHITE (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT I don't require this
H2/6 GREEN (-) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT (N/C* OR N/O) Is this the door switches and if it is are they considered NC or NO, I would think NC because that's when they are in there natural position
H2/7 BLACK/YELLOW (-) 200mA DOME LIGHT SUPERVISION OUTPUT I don't require this
H2/8 BROWN/BLACK (-) 200mA HORN HONK OUTPUT I don't require this
H2/9 DARK BLUE (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT Unsure what this is
H2/10 PINK (-) 200mA IGNITION 1 OUTPUT Does this mean Key switch position 1 output?
H2/11 WHITE/BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 3 OUTPUT These are for optional accessories eg. sun roof open/close etc
H2/12 VIOLET (+) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT
H2/13 WHITE/VIOLET (-) 200mA AUX 1 OUTPUT These are for optional accessories eg. sun roof open/close etc
H2/14 VIOLET/BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 2 OUTPUTThese are for optional accessories eg. sun roof open/close etc
H2/15 ORANGE/BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 4 OUTPUTThese are for optional accessories eg. sun roof open/close etc
H2/16 BROWN (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT Could I just pick this up on the brake lamp switch?
H2/17 GREY (-) HOOD PIN INPUT (N/C OR N/O) This is for a bonnet switch to disable alarm to avoid remote start while working on engine
H2/18 VIOLET/YELLOW (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT Is this the negative of starter motor? I believe the module senses the starter current and VD on battery to sense when to stop cranking
H2/19 BLUE (-) TRUNK PIN/ INSTANT TRIGGER INPUT (N/C OR N/O) Unsure what this is
H2/20 GREY/BLACK (-) DIESEL WAIT TO START INPUT I don't require this
H2/21 WHITE/BLUE (-) REMOTE START/ TURBO TIMER ACTIVATION INPUT Unsure what this is
H2/22 ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT Accessory key position output?
H2/23 VIOLET/WHITE TACHOMETER INPUT Can I pick this up from the instrument cluster?
H2/24 GREEN/WHITE (-) 200mA OEM ALARM ARM OUTPUT I don't require this
*The Normally Closed setting will only work if one of the vehicle's doors is connected. If more than one door
is to be monitored, then it is recommended to use the Xpresskit DTIMAZDA or tech tip # 1921 on www.directechs.com to interface with these types of vehicles.
Remote Start, (H3) 10-pin connector This is the one I'm having the most trouble with, What's a flex relay? and ignition 1 input etc. what does that mean?
H3/1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT
H3/2 RED/WHITE (87) FLEX RELAY +12V INPUT (30A FUSED)
H3/3 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT
H3/4 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL)
H3/5 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL)
H3/6 RED IGNITION 1 +12V INPUT (30A FUSED)
H3/7 PINK/WHITE (30) FLEX RELAY OUTPUT (car side of ign, acc or starter wire)
H3/8 PINK/BLACK (87a) FLEX RELAY INPUT (key side of ign, acc or starter wire if needed)
H3/9 RED/BLACK ACCESSORY/STARTER RELAY +12V INPUT (30A FUSED)
H3/10 NC No Connection
Door Lock, 3-pin connector
1 BLUE (-) 500mA UNLOCK OUTPUT To Blue of my door lock solenoids?
2 EMPTY NOT USED
3 GREEN (-) 500mA LOCK OUTPUTTo Green of my door lock solenoids?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me out on this. I'm sure once I get going it'll come together, I'm not entirely unfamiliar with auto elec stuff but some of the terminology is throwing me off I think.