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Bulbous
28th August 2013, 11:58 PM
Hi Guys,
As you know, we're really lucky here with the amount of sand we have to play in, but when it comes to anything else we're a bit deprived.
One of the guys has managed to find a nice muddy wadi for us all to play in, so I'm off to have a go on Friday.

Sand's not an issue but mud????
Has anyone got any tips for driving in the mud? Tyre pressures, keep the revs up, diff lock, etc

Looking forward to this but sure I'll end up bogged to the chassis

Frontbumfab
29th August 2013, 12:00 AM
Momentum! Its hard to get moving again if its real slippery mud. Pick a Line and have a go

BigRAWesty
29th August 2013, 06:19 AM
Drop your tyres a little. I usually go 20-25 psi all round.
I also find if your doing ruts on 31" tyres then angle the steering into the side walls a little. The front will try and climb up the wall and lift the diff for a little extra clearance. If it does jump out don't panic, just keep the wheels pointing in the right direction and keep powering on..

BigRAWesty
29th August 2013, 06:20 AM
Main thing is to enjoy it And lots of pics.. :D

threedogs
29th August 2013, 07:03 AM
Momentum, momentum, momentum

93patrol
29th August 2013, 07:37 AM
and if you end up with a slow leak in your tyres you have mud in the bead.

pick your line before you enter the mud and try and stick to it just make sure the rutts arent deeper than what your tyres and diff can handle and set up your snatch strap before you go in generally on the back if its flat ground as if you push the mud its harder to drag you out but if you can be pulled backwards and it clears the underneath of your car happy days

Frontbumfab
29th August 2013, 09:41 AM
I normally leave it in 2wd with my 39x18 boggers at 6psi to make new ruts for every one. Hahah ;):beer:

Winnie
29th August 2013, 09:41 AM
I normally leave it in 2wd with my 39x18 boggers at 6psi to make new ruts for every one. Hahah ;):beer:

So that's why everybody with normal size tyres gets hung up all the time? You're one of those guys.

Frontbumfab
29th August 2013, 09:55 AM
Haha i knew someone would say something. ive only done it once and i thought the hubs were locked in but they werent. I dont purposly going around f!cking shit for everyone. Regod patrol only runs 36s so id wreck it for myself haha

mattsgu
29th August 2013, 10:25 AM
yep as already said, momentum! I like to also have a strap ready to go on either end of the vehicle. Might save you from getting dirty!

Bulbous
29th August 2013, 08:27 PM
Thanks Guys,
Doesn't sound to hard - just like sand just wetter and messier.

I'll let you know how I get on. Pics coming.

Ben-e-boy
29th August 2013, 08:31 PM
I normally leave it in 2wd with my 39x18 boggers at 6psi to make new ruts for every one. Hahah ;):beer:

Keep up the good work.

Clunk
29th August 2013, 10:56 PM
Thanks Guys,
Doesn't sound to hard - just like sand just wetter and messier.

I'll let you know how I get on. Pics coming.

And sometimes a lot harder to dig your way out of too lol

NP99
30th August 2013, 12:16 AM
Just add water......

TPC
30th August 2013, 12:20 AM
Just remember the 30 minutes of fun playing in the mud will be followed by 3 hours of cleaning the mud from your Troll afterwards.

Clunk
30th August 2013, 12:23 AM
Just remember the 30 minutes of fun playing in the mud will be followed by 3 hours of cleaning the mud from your Troll afterwards.

Unless you take it on the beach and sand blast the underneath clean, that'll save some time lol

macca86
30th August 2013, 12:26 AM
Now after playing sink or float with my patrol and 6000 in repair bills I now approach the bog hole slowly engage reverse and look for a way around it haha

cgm
30th August 2013, 06:45 AM
Thanks Guys,
Doesn't sound to hard - just like sand just wetter and messier.

I'll let you know how I get on. Pics coming.

Looking forward to pics. Don't let them be like mine - stuck deep with everyone laughing.

Wondering about the mud? The wadi has a spring or something? Certainly no rain over here lately and I can't imagine there either?

Enjoy the change anyway. After cleaning you will move back to sand - ha ha ;)

Chris79
30th August 2013, 08:03 PM
Momentum is definitely key but there is also another factor to consider and that is static grip.
In laymans terms a static object has higher ground friction than the same object once slidding.
This comes into play once wheels start spinning, you will actually have less grip in order to move forward.

If you feel the wheels starting to spin, back off the accelerator in order to regain static grip then carefully re- apply power. All while keeping momentum going.
If you get it right you will be a star in the mud and generally out drive most others running a similar tyre to you.
In really slippery conditions you will end up feathering the accelerator pedal.

My other tip is once really struggling for grip wrench the steering wheel side to side, can make all the difference. Even the weight transfer side to side can be enough to get you going again.

Have fun.

AB
30th August 2013, 08:06 PM
I'm sure everyone has answered the main questions so here's my advice...lol

Take gold coins with you!!!

taslucas
30th August 2013, 08:07 PM
Momentum is definitely key but there is also another factor to consider and that is static grip.
In laymans terms a static object has higher ground friction than the same object once slidding.
This comes into play once wheels start spinning, you will actually have less grip in order to move forward.

If you feel the wheels starting to spin, back off the accelerator in order to regain static grip then carefully re- apply power. All while keeping momentum going.
If you get it right you will be a star in the mud and generally out drive most others running a similar tyre to you.
In really slippery conditions you will end up feathering the accelerator pedal.




and that is where an auto comes into its own:)

taslucas
30th August 2013, 08:09 PM
Just remember the 30 minutes of fun playing in the mud will be followed by 3 hours of cleaning the mud from your Troll afterwards.

or you just dont worry about it:)

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/taslucas1/Dipfalls24-8-13wet67_zps05a9323c.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/taslucas1/media/Dipfalls24-8-13wet67_zps05a9323c.jpg.html)

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/taslucas1/Dipfalls24-8-13wet44_zps753e15a5.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/taslucas1/media/Dipfalls24-8-13wet44_zps753e15a5.jpg.html)

happygu
30th August 2013, 08:55 PM
Bulbous,

Go out with a group of others - don't be first in, as you may find it is deeper and harder than you think, and doing this will give you a chance to evaluate lines, speeds, and the hidden challenges, and then don't be last in, as it will all be churned up.

Mic

DX grunt
30th August 2013, 09:05 PM
My personal opinion.......stick to sand......avoid mud at all cost. My preference is bitumen. lol

Clunk
30th August 2013, 09:21 PM
My personal opinion.......stick to sand......avoid mud at all cost. My preference is bitumen. lol

And even that's under duress!!!!!!!! Lol

DX grunt
30th August 2013, 09:24 PM
And even that's under duress!!!!!!!! Lol

You know me too well - which scares me. PML

PS....I nearly sprayed my lappy screen with your comment. lol

Clunk
30th August 2013, 09:27 PM
You know me too well - which scares me. PML

PS....I nearly sprayed my lappy screen with your comment. lol

Well I hope is was a beverage of some sort that we sprayed ;)

Bulbous
1st September 2013, 11:12 PM
Wondering about the mud? The wadi has a spring or something? Certainly no rain over here lately and I can't imagine there either?

We found a dam up in Ras al Kaimah - there is what looks like dried up mud around it. As you get closer you realise that it's top is dry, but underneath it's very soft. Sort of like clay.

Well to cut a long story short, it was truly horrendous. Started ok, but after less than 50 metres something felt not right. Very unforgiving, no reversing out of this one LOL.
Tires full of clay, and diffs resting in the mud.

Couple of tasters for you

Off we go ...
http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1235122_10151657647204094_536079314_n.jpg

Didn't get too far ...
http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/166004_10151657647379094_1372600912_n.jpg

http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1234368_10151657625524094_538180386_n.jpg

Still looking better than the Jeeps
http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/999776_10151657626524094_931236789_n.jpg