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Dales300exc
14th August 2013, 09:05 PM
It's been a while since I've been on here and even longer since I've spent money on the patrol! But the finances have recovered after the new bike and its time to make the rig what I finally want.
This thread is to just show my basic GQ, but I want to use it as motivation to keep me moving forward, otherwise I lost interest and it all fizzles out.
I've never been an extreme fourby person, so it suits my needs how it is, and once I do a few more things it will be the perfect car for a few years to come. As it sits its a TB42 EFI on gas as well, and it shits me to tears, anyway, the mods:
- Dobinson 3" lift with suspension stuff shocks.
- Arb delux winch bar, side steps (they are terrible) and rear bar.
- Tigerz 12,000 pounder with rope
- IPF driving lights with cheap HID conversion
- Roofrack
- Rear LED's behind spare
- 33" MTZs
- Alloy airbox, 2.5" exhaust and extractors
- Alpine head unit, amp and sub
- UHF and water temp gauge
- Waeco CFX when out and about
Pretty much a run of the mill GQ.
The to do list:
- Build my diesel and freshen the spare gearbox I have to put in.
- Sliders and snorkel (once I decided where my new airbox will be going).
- Dual batts
- Possible front diff lock
- Theres more but I can't think of it and will only happen as funds present
- Sell off the gas system, engine and gearbox and go back to a long range tank and sub tank.
Just set it up for a bit of long distance stuff and still be cheaper than me buying a 4.2 gu. The specs for my new engine will be:
- Silvertop TD
- PPM H beam rods so I can fit 30mm gudgeons and late model pistons
- Late model turbo pistons, ceramic and teflon coated.
- United fuel injection TD05 18g turbo
- Unsure who will do my fuel pump and injectors as yet but most likely 11mm with boost comp, will discuss needs of 12mm and how much fuel economy I'll lose
- DTS low mount manifold to keep space to a maximum
- Will decide on intercooler setup as I get closer to completion
- 3 inch exhaust with some sort of muffler to keep sound to a minimum at 100kph.
All my research is finally getting put into motion. It's been a long time coming.
Once that is all done, it will be a good rig that I can cruise long distances in and not have to fill up at every servo i see. Then go and see some of this country.
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb460/Dales300exc/Patrol_zps947932c1.jpg (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/Dales300exc/media/Patrol_zps947932c1.jpg.html)
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb460/Dales300exc/Patrol2_zpsb9783a3f.jpg (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/Dales300exc/media/Patrol2_zpsb9783a3f.jpg.html)
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb460/Dales300exc/Patrol3_zps929c06e4.jpg (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/Dales300exc/media/Patrol3_zps929c06e4.jpg.html)
So there the dirty troll is, keep me motivated!
growler2058
14th August 2013, 09:22 PM
Not possibly, definitely a front diff lock. Go further with less right foot= less strain
Dales300exc
14th August 2013, 09:25 PM
It's not a priority, I'll put it that way!
Dales300exc
7th September 2013, 08:13 PM
Well, still waiting on my rods to be completed from PPM. Its been almost 4 weeks so must be getting close (apparently a delay from their bush supplier?). Will most likely order my pistons and rebuild kit in the next fortnight. Get the block all cleaned, prepped, pistons coated, and assemble the long motor. Then just turbo and fuel pump. Getting there.
Gunna start picking up guages as well. And keeping an eye out for big fuel tanks that may come up at a good price. Pricing up PWR water air intercooler. Still got to measure and see what size front mount I can fit and compare prices/gains. Air to air will be substantially cheaper but running of intercooler piping will take a lot of space. New 3 core rad as well to suit the diesel.
Exciting times.
Dales300exc
5th December 2013, 09:15 PM
Well a lot has happened since my last post, accumulated a few parts and almost ready to start building the engine. I've got my clutch/flywheel, H Beam rods to convert to 30mm gudgeons, td42t ceramic/teflon coated pistons, all rebuild parts, new crank pulley/balancer, and pwr water/air intercooler. Also added a fridge slide to my Waeco.
Few pics:
My room filling with parts
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb460/Dales300exc/Parts_zps278514eb.jpg (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/Dales300exc/media/Parts_zps278514eb.jpg.html)
NPC Viper Clutch
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb460/Dales300exc/Clutch_zpsaa6520f1.jpg (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/Dales300exc/media/Clutch_zpsaa6520f1.jpg.html)
Pistons
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb460/Dales300exc/Piston2_zpsac84eafc.jpg (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/Dales300exc/media/Piston2_zpsac84eafc.jpg.html)
Rebuild crap
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb460/Dales300exc/Engineparts_zpsf00851ec.jpg (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/Dales300exc/media/Engineparts_zpsf00851ec.jpg.html)
Rods
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb460/Dales300exc/Rods2_zpse24383b2.jpg (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/Dales300exc/media/Rods2_zpse24383b2.jpg.html)
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb460/Dales300exc/Rods_zpseb11acb4.jpg (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/Dales300exc/media/Rods_zpseb11acb4.jpg.html)
Cooler
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb460/Dales300exc/Intercooler2_zps8723bb9d.jpg (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/Dales300exc/media/Intercooler2_zps8723bb9d.jpg.html)
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb460/Dales300exc/Intercooler_zps20fb4d0b.jpg (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/Dales300exc/media/Intercooler_zps20fb4d0b.jpg.html)
The slide
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb460/Dales300exc/Snapbucket/0EDB68A1-orig_zpsd2d73acb.jpg (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/Dales300exc/media/Snapbucket/0EDB68A1-orig_zpsd2d73acb.jpg.html)
Just gotta get the machine work done and build the engine, then want a plazmaman intake manifold, 12mm Diesel Central pump and 18g TD05 UFI Turbo. Then its all small stuff till the conversion.
Have discovered a lot of slight differences and similarities between the td42 and td42t that there is a lot of bull about on the internet at times, I will clear it up in another post. Until then....
Dale.
Clunk
5th December 2013, 09:24 PM
Looking forward to reading about it
Dales300exc
6th December 2013, 06:36 AM
A lot of bull crap and misinformation is spread online about these engines and works/doesn't work. It makes it a night mare for anyone trying to see good information about them. These are my discoveries. TD42/TD42t myths and similarities:
- Gudgeons are different - TD42 28mm, TD42t 30mm
- Oil squirters are different (between standard TD42 pistons and TD42t pistons with cooling gallery in crown)
- Oil pumps are different - Larger rotors and more flow in a TD42t, but will fit into a TD42 for better lubrication
- Crankshafts are different - The flywheel boss on the TD42 is 86mm flywheel boss on TD42t is 96mm, balancer pulleys are different, main and big end journals are exactly the same\
- Pre comps are bigger in TD42t - Pre comps are the exact same physical size, but are designed slightly different, TD42t pre comps will fit in a TD42 head.
- Front are rear main seals are different (due to flyhweel boss and crank pulley)
Other than that there is not much difference.
Dale.
threedogs
6th December 2013, 06:47 AM
Sounds like you're heading in the right direction.
Kwarte
6th December 2013, 08:38 AM
Nice looking rig! Lots of work put into it keep it up. Thanks for putting the info here :)
Dales300exc
21st December 2013, 06:35 PM
New flares
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/12/100.jpg
Fixed this horrible mess http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/12/101.jpg
Dales300exc
3rd January 2014, 09:32 AM
Ordered an awning and compressor yesterday. Going to price e-lockers for down the track. Waiting on a price for new airbox.
Will drop my engine off for machine work next week when places open again. Going to send my fuel pump and injectors off next week. Can not wait to sootup.
Dales300exc
6th January 2014, 06:17 PM
Awning and compressor turned up today. For $210 shipped the awning seems fantastic.
Davey Jones
15th January 2014, 05:03 PM
Looks good mate, coming along nicely :)
Dales300exc
29th January 2014, 07:47 PM
Well still waiting on the pump to return. But today I picked up a complete td42 vehicle loom and the upper spec cluster (pov cluster came with the engine but I didnt like it). All for a bargain price!
Changed over the black facsia and glass just to see what it looks like. Kinda like it.
Dales300exc
30th January 2014, 09:33 AM
Pump is here! Guess this is what 230hp of awesome looks like.
nissannewby
30th January 2014, 10:59 AM
Diesel central pump?
Dales300exc
30th January 2014, 12:11 PM
Diesel central pump?
Sure is mate :)
tiny
30th January 2014, 01:07 PM
Nice rig, looks like mine but without all the gouges :)
Dales300exc
30th January 2014, 06:02 PM
Started to clean the block to send away (I know I know, ive been saying it for month) so finally starting to move forward.
Dales300exc
1st February 2014, 01:55 PM
Everything is clean and finally ready to send off. Just gotta get around to it.
Dales300exc
3rd February 2014, 09:43 AM
Dropped the engine in at Blackwell Race Engines today so now its out of my control.
93patrol
3rd February 2014, 10:56 AM
How long before you'll get it back??
Dales300exc
3rd February 2014, 12:01 PM
How long before you'll get it back??
To be honest I didn't ask. Mate works there so not really expecting a quick turn around haha.
BigRAWesty
3rd February 2014, 12:44 PM
So what work are they doing??
And what sorta figures are you looking for??
Dales300exc
3rd February 2014, 06:10 PM
No major work really. Deck, final machine of liners and set protusions. Balance. New valves, pre comps etc. Then see how it goes.
The aim is around 230hp at the treads with drivability important. If I can keep cruising l/100 around the 15l/100 or below ill be happy. If I can't I'll pull fuel out of it until its ok.
Just dropped valve stem seals off and he said 2-4 weeks. They are busy.
93patrol
4th February 2014, 05:56 PM
That is a long time for a rebuild. But if your not in a rush and your happy with the time frame that's all good then
Dales300exc
4th February 2014, 06:41 PM
Thats not a rebuild. Thats machine work. I will be doing final assembly and rechecking all measurments.
Im not fussed with the time frame, as mate will be doing the work (will be looked after money wise) and the guys are flat out with customers that provide constant work. Im just a fill in job.
Plus I need to save money to pay them, and for the turbo, radiator, fuel tank, gauges, etc.
Dales300exc
10th February 2014, 10:17 PM
Things might be changing this week. May be updating cars. Will keep posted.
ctaylor58
12th February 2014, 04:28 PM
Awesome rig
Dales300exc
14th February 2014, 07:41 PM
Well. Ill spill the beans.
My plans all week were to go and look at a gu tomorrow. But I just got in my gq that has been parked out the front all week to put it in the driveway, and realised, I love this car. It may have dints and things that make me unhappy, but I feel at home in it.
Just called the gu owner and said its a no go. Full steam ahead in my one and only gq. Happy valentines gq.
Sherro
18th February 2014, 09:23 AM
Nice work mate your giving me ideas but at this stage it will be down the track a bit.
amanda1987
19th February 2014, 01:42 PM
nice looking rig mate
Dales300exc
19th February 2014, 02:35 PM
It will be good. Engine is still a couple of weeks off so what better thing to do than buy an exhaust for the dirtbike haha!
Dales300exc
3rd March 2014, 09:12 PM
Still waiting......
Ben-e-boy
3rd March 2014, 09:24 PM
Nice... are you going to balance the rest aswell?
Dales300exc
3rd March 2014, 09:31 PM
Yes its all being done. Its just a photo he sent. Hopefully soon it will be ready to build.
Dales300exc
6th March 2014, 06:34 PM
Must be doing one thing a week. Hope its not one liner a week haha.
Dales300exc
20th March 2014, 07:38 PM
Turns out he was doing it all after hours. So will cost bugger all. We must be getting close now though, so thats good.
Was on the blower to UFI last week ordering my turbo kit so next week or the one after it should be there.
Then just gauges, fatz airbox, snorkel, radiator and a few other bits and bobs and ready to rock. Getting very excited now.
Dales300exc
22nd March 2014, 04:34 PM
Bought a Galaxy tab 3 today for navigation purposes and added mudmaps and hemas explorer apps so should be able to get around a lot easier now. Ordered a mount too.
Avo
22nd March 2014, 08:25 PM
great read through mate,cheers for sharing.
Dales300exc
24th March 2014, 07:29 PM
Well seeing as nothing else has been happening I decided to strip my spare gearbox today to see if my fear of a sad 5th gear were correct, unfortunately the were. Ill finishing washing it up in the morning and get a parts quote to see how crazy it will be to fix. Going to call marks adapters because I swear they used to make an upgrade kit with long splines on the mainshaft. But all I can find is gear ratio changes.
Also will call terrain tamer and see if there is any help there.
Dales300exc
2nd April 2014, 09:27 PM
Well. 2 months since anything real has happened and im very down about it. Its all out of my hands and its doing my head in. I have no motivation. Sigh.
Dales300exc
19th May 2014, 07:06 PM
Boom. We are back on.
nissannewby
19th May 2014, 10:20 PM
Looking good mate.
With the gearbox you can actually by the revised but through Nissan. Garry at nizzbits or patrolapart will be able to help you. If you haven't sourced this already.
Dales300exc
19th May 2014, 10:26 PM
Yeh. I found the parts in the end but the figures were getting pretty high so will run my gearbox until it gives up the ghost and then build the spare. Should have cash up by then.
Dales300exc
20th May 2014, 12:24 AM
Im also starting to worry the pwr barrel might not be up to the task of keeping intake temps where they need to be.
Unsure which way to go. Suggestions?
nissannewby
20th May 2014, 10:37 AM
Im also starting to worry the pwr barrel might not be up to the task of keeping intake temps where they need to be.
Unsure which way to go. Suggestions?
I have just done a custom setup using a frozen boost 1200hp core, m2r heat exchanger, Davis Craig 115lpm water pump and 1" lines. Works great after a hard run you can put your hand on the core and it's only just warm. We still have a bit of tuning to do but haven't seen Egt's go over 300 post turbo.
Dales300exc
20th May 2014, 09:18 PM
Hmm there might be some hope then. I dont know how much confidence I could put in a cheap core. Ive had cheap rads shit.
Maybe I will run it and see before I put it for sale. Get it engineered etc as it looks neat and minimal.
Mines a 600hp core.
nissannewby
20th May 2014, 09:33 PM
Frozen boost cores are pretty good mate. I haven't heard of one failing in a patrol application. We are using a Garrett 3067 with 12mm pump. We opted for the larger core to make sure we had no restrictions.
Dales300exc
31st May 2014, 05:43 PM
Pwr are adament their 570hp barrel (halved for a diesel) will cope. Will see how it goes and add an extra heat exchanger if need be.
Picked up a fuel tank for it today and a new timing case yesterday (was pitted behind water pump and at $230 it was a headache I decided to avoid).
Turbo, manifold, dump, etc should be here Monday or Tuesday.
Was going to build the engine today but work got in the way of that.
Going to run my belly tank and standard rear tank with a solonoid and switch to change tanks giving me a total capacity of 150 lts for less than $500 (including purchase of tank, senders, twin fillers and solonoid) as opposed to $1000 for a 147 liter long ranger. Also means I have more ground clearance and if puncture a tank they can be independantly run from eachother.
Dales300exc
3rd June 2014, 06:38 PM
Mmm mm mmmm.
nissannewby
3rd June 2014, 08:45 PM
Is there an I.D tag on the chra?
Dales300exc
3rd June 2014, 09:46 PM
On the chra?
EDIT: Google answered it for me. I did not check.
Dales300exc
4th June 2014, 08:17 AM
No mate. No id tag
Dales300exc
9th June 2014, 11:27 PM
And in seeing photos lately I would not be suprised if they were supplied by the same guys as the kinugawas.
Do UFI internally modify the housings? Because if you had an untagged UFI and Kinugawa side by side youd be hard pressed to pick the difference.
nissannewby
10th June 2014, 08:23 AM
UFI use a genuine MHI cartridge I believe and genuine rear housing. UFI modify the housing slightly and also the turbine wheel. I'm not aware of them doing a whole lot to the compressor side of things apart from their billet wheel option.
Dales300exc
10th June 2014, 01:30 PM
Fair call. It interests me knowing what they do but not enough to call them haha.
Dales300exc
16th June 2014, 08:29 PM
Assembled the bottom end, aligned squirters, e-boost boost controller turned up and bought pump timing tools etc.
Well those photos didn't work. Puss uploader.
nissannewby
16th June 2014, 08:51 PM
Looking good mate. You don't happen to know how they installed your liners? I hope they didn't use liquid nitrogen.
Dales300exc
16th June 2014, 09:06 PM
No, they were pressed in.
nissannewby
16th June 2014, 09:13 PM
No, they were pressed in.
Sweet. I have seen a couple of failures due to liquid nitrogen being used and causing shrinkage cracks.
Dales300exc
16th June 2014, 10:36 PM
I really dont want to be pulling it apart again haha. So hopefully It all goes smoothly.
nissannewby
17th June 2014, 06:41 PM
I really dont want to be pulling it apart again haha. So hopefully It all goes smoothly.
I'm sure it will mate. You seem to be taking your time and have done your research.
Dales300exc
17th June 2014, 09:19 PM
Yeh I do my best to. I really dislike doing things twice.
Bit more progress
Dales300exc
5th July 2014, 02:02 PM
Found a little bit of time.
nissannewby
5th July 2014, 02:24 PM
Looking the goods mate. Did you fit a new head?
Dales300exc
5th July 2014, 04:39 PM
Naaaar. I said to my guy if there was any doubt to replace it, but it tested fine so im running with it. Fingers crossed eh.
munzy42
6th July 2014, 12:11 AM
Yikes, that looks tasty
Dales300exc
8th July 2014, 07:44 PM
The guys at repco assured me a hemi orange rocker cover would add 100hp.
nissannewby
8th July 2014, 09:23 PM
The guys at repco assured me a hemi orange rocker cover would add 100hp.
Nice different but nice. It's a shame that once you get all the gear in you can't see much of it anymore. I have seen a td42 painted up like a cat engine now that was ugly and a disgrace to our mighty td42 lol.
Ben-e-boy
8th July 2014, 09:49 PM
The guys at repco assured me a hemi orange rocker cover would add 100hp.
Is that horse power at the wheels or windscreen wipers.
Dales300exc
8th July 2014, 11:03 PM
Haha yeh that sounds yuck. Blocks black. Just needed a bit of pop and with the polished barrell on top it should look alright.
It will all be brown soon anyway!
Im not too sure the dumbasses at repco Doveton actually know what windscreen wipers or wheels are. So can't be certain. :):):)
Dales300exc
12th July 2014, 04:18 PM
Couple of productive boredom hours.
Dales300exc
13th July 2014, 01:56 PM
Even got motivated on a Sunday. Stop the presses. Stripped back the oil cooler cleaned it all and made sure the plunger and ball werent sticky. Plumbed up the oil feed and coolant returns.
Because I hate oil leaks, ive bought a drain fitting so I dont I have use the piece of shit, loose fitting rubber hose as a drain.
Thermostat housing is totally cactus. Will order one next week. Got filters and belts. Genuine thermostat. Glow plugs.
Almost there. Productive weekend.
nissannewby
13th July 2014, 02:23 PM
Looking good mate.
Dales300exc
16th July 2014, 07:20 PM
About to lose my shit with the guys supplying the airbox tomorrow and take my business elsewhere. Patrol docta ZD30 boxes capable for what im trying ti achieve?
Dales300exc
17th July 2014, 06:03 PM
Should have it pretty close to done on the weekend.
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Ben-e-boy
17th July 2014, 07:28 PM
About to lose my shit with the guys supplying the airbox tomorrow and take my business elsewhere. Patrol docta ZD30 boxes capable for what im trying ti achieve?
That airbox as advertised flows 308 cfm, the td42 requires approx 550 cfm @ 4000rpm.
As I understand it is not the lid that is the sole problem. There is very little room around the filter element itself. That area is easily choked and therefor will restrict flow.
Performance wise, in the higher rpm the turbo has to work for its air, which it shouldnt do, higher and less managable pyros in the top end and torque and engine responce could suffer too.
Thats my understanding of that anyway
nissannewby
17th July 2014, 07:29 PM
About to lose my shit with the guys supplying the airbox tomorrow and take my business elsewhere. Patrol docta ZD30 boxes capable for what im trying ti achieve?
NO! Don't waste your $$ grab a fatz box or 4bfab panel one. Or make your own.
Ben-e-boy
17th July 2014, 07:47 PM
NO! Don't waste your $$ grab a fatz box or 4bfab panel one. Or make your own.
Thats what I was trying to say,
Dales300exc
17th July 2014, 10:47 PM
Its ok. Fatz have sorted their shit and after a very unhappy phone call, I gave in and handed over my Card details AGAIN. They may make a good product. But their customer service was horrible.
nissannewby
18th July 2014, 06:44 AM
Its ok. Fatz have sorted their shit and after a very unhappy phone call, I gave in and handed over my Card details AGAIN. They may make a good product. But their customer service was horrible.
Yeah I agree. Be prepared to wait I didn't realise you were already using them. The last box we got took 2 months from the first phone call to when we saw it at our door.
Dales300exc
18th July 2014, 07:47 AM
Yeah I agree. Be prepared to wait I didn't realise you were already using them. The last box we got took 2 months from the first phone call to when we saw it at our door.
Well I ordered it last Wednesday, gave credit card details and they said yep, got one instock, we will email an invoice just check the address and let us no. It came to Monday this week. No email. I called them. They sent an email. I replied with fixed details. A day later. I call again because of no reply. Wednesday I get "yep all good, its boxed and ready to go when we recieve payment". Wtf. I already gave my details.
So after an email Wednesday night saying that if they couldn't find my details id already given as far as im concerned the transaction was finished. They called yesterday and very apologetic. I gave them some stick. Is this how you treat ever customer?
Should be here next week.
Dales300exc
18th July 2014, 03:40 PM
Now this drain makes me much happier.
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Dales300exc
19th July 2014, 04:25 PM
Finally got around to the fitting in the sump. I impressed myself for someone who hasn't brazed in probably 5 years. Full steam ahead.
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Dales300exc
25th July 2014, 07:26 AM
There was an incident last weekend and as such the car needs repairs. Waiting on insurance to get in touch.
Dales300exc
30th July 2014, 01:31 PM
Bonnet clearance is going to be an issue.
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nissannewby
30th July 2014, 01:38 PM
Bonnet clearance is going to be an issue.
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Believe it or not mate it probably wont be. The 1200hp frozen boost core I recently fitted to a gu in a cradle style bracket has plenty of room and it sits 50mm or so above the rocker cover. The brackets were made to suit and allowances made for one bonnet rib and the windscreen washer nozzle hoses.
nissannewby
31st July 2014, 06:54 PM
She looks ready to go in mate when will we see it in your car? Im excited to see this run.
Dales300exc
31st July 2014, 08:34 PM
Just minor stuff left. Was penciled in to convert next weekend, but im now still waiting on insurance to settle so I can repair my rear doors before I do it all.
Im excited too. Very much so.
Dales300exc
7th August 2014, 08:24 PM
Pretty much right to drop in the hole now. Still waiting on slow arse insurance to settle my claim then I can move ahead.
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nissannewby
7th August 2014, 09:20 PM
Looking good mate. Did you ceramic coat the intake manifold or is it just painted?
Dales300exc
7th August 2014, 09:43 PM
Its just high temp paint. The can did say "with ceramic". I reckon it looks pretty sweet. Will modify the manifold one day.
Dales300exc
12th August 2014, 01:24 PM
Well its so close now I can taste it. Engines right to rock, air box, twin senders, new fuel primer/filter is all sitting here, snorkel and fuel changeover solonoid have been ordered, just need to grab a few gauges and its go time.
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Parksy
12th August 2014, 07:57 PM
Very nice! Don't forget to video the first start up. Looking forward.
Dales300exc
15th August 2014, 08:40 AM
Well with insurance cash settling a bit over 3k. Im seriously considering parting this one and getting into a cleaner gq for no financial outlay. Watch this space.
Dales300exc
30th August 2014, 02:10 PM
Finally found some doors my colour. Diesel goes in next week. Excited.
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Ben-e-boy
30th August 2014, 04:40 PM
Finally found some doors my colour. Diesel goes in next week. Excited.
48751
About bloody time :harhar:
Dales300exc
31st August 2014, 03:11 PM
Got excited so went to work. Ready to yank.
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Dales300exc
2nd September 2014, 08:02 PM
Full steam ahead.
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Patrol 1993
2nd September 2014, 10:47 PM
Hi Dales300exc,
Can you please tell me, when you rebuilt the engine, if you noticed if the old and new pistons and the rods all weighed the same.
I am interested to know if Nissan balances their engines. Both diesel and petrol. Its about performance.
Thanks,
Neil.
Dales300exc
2nd September 2014, 11:42 PM
I didn't weigh them sorry. The guy who did all the machine work balanced my engine both rotating and reciprocating masses.
Patrol 1993
2nd September 2014, 11:47 PM
Hi Dales300exc,
Do you know if the guy who did the machine work have to take much off to balance it all out.
Neil.
Dales300exc
3rd September 2014, 07:42 PM
I will ask the question when I see him next.
Vehicle is stripped and ready to install the diesel loom and get the wheels really in motion. Then setup the twin tanks, dash back in etc. Kickin goals.
Dales300exc
5th September 2014, 07:54 PM
Mounts for cooler heat exchanger fabbed up, new headlights and globes, looms all out, bay is pretty much clear, fuel tanks are out and have new pickups so are ready to go back in. Got a heap of new switches and relays to tidy everything up. TD bellhousing is on. Happy with the progress and certainly have a big weekend ahead of me.
NissanGQ4.2
5th September 2014, 08:04 PM
Looking good mate
Dales300exc
6th September 2014, 07:32 PM
Full day under the belt. Going well.
nissannewby
8th September 2014, 12:19 AM
Did we see smoke today?
Dales300exc
8th September 2014, 10:51 PM
Nope :(. Underestimated the giant pain in the arse that is setting up twin tanks. Not far off, just trying to find time. Its booked for exhaust next Tuesday. Will get stuck into it Wednesday after work and probably tomorrow before work. Just little shit.
Dales300exc
9th September 2014, 10:36 AM
Got in early and finished the tanks off. Just small wiring jobs and engine bay fuel lines to finish up. Hopefully fire it up tomorrow evening.
Couple of photos of the vacuum setup, filter, intake piping and stoked with how much more ground clearance I have with the stock tank over the gas tank.
Winnie
9th September 2014, 11:06 AM
Hey mate, do you mind but how much was that airbox? And do you have more photos of it?
nissannewby
9th September 2014, 01:07 PM
Fatz fabrication item and will probably set you back around the 600 mark.
Dales300exc
9th September 2014, 01:21 PM
Yeeeeeeep. Fatz fabrication. $660 including gst. Only have a couple of closed photos. They have more on their website I think.
Dales300exc
10th September 2014, 05:48 PM
It lives it lives it lives!!!! Stoked! Sounds sweet. Great oil pressure. No leaks. Boomting. Ill upload a small clip later.
Ben-e-boy
10th September 2014, 07:24 PM
:clapping::groupwave::driving2::smiley_thumbs_up:: cheers:
:useless:
AB
10th September 2014, 07:35 PM
That airbox as advertised flows 308 cfm, the td42 requires approx 550 cfm @ 4000rpm.
As I understand it is not the lid that is the sole problem. There is very little room around the filter element itself. That area is easily choked and therefor will restrict flow.
Performance wise, in the higher rpm the turbo has to work for its air, which it shouldnt do, higher and less managable pyros in the top end and torque and engine responce could suffer too.
Thats my understanding of that anyway
I'm a bit late on this thread but the main reason in my opinion is the restriction around the filter.
Every time I checked the filter, especially up in the Simpson was the thick dust circle from the snorkel side, rest of the filter brand new, very restrictive and wish I knew this before hand!
Dales300exc
10th September 2014, 08:30 PM
Few vids, ignore that old fella haha, was just my eyes to bleed it up and hands to cut the fuel cut wire if need be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RisiEaw8E88&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YISsjpFxyqY&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8L-uKfmm4Y&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcbYpwfb_a8&feature=youtu.be
Dales300exc
13th September 2014, 07:14 PM
Should be on the road by tomorrow evening. Ironing out some loom differences and wiring up all accessories still to do. But its all looking good to make it to the exhaust joint Tuesday and if that goes well ill book it for a/c pipes Wednesday. Can't wait to drive it, sounds AMAZING!
Ben-e-boy
13th September 2014, 07:52 PM
If you are really excited put a towel down on the drivers seat..... you may have a bit of wee come out
Dales300exc
13th September 2014, 07:53 PM
I think wee is a high possibility. God dam it sounds horn at 3k out the dump. Yum yum.
Dales300exc
14th September 2014, 02:02 PM
The tedius wiring jobs continue.
Dales300exc
14th September 2014, 09:29 PM
Pyro, water and cluster back in finally. 11hrs today. Hopefully finish it off tomorrow.
Dales300exc
15th September 2014, 02:36 PM
Fuel changover solonoid fucked up already and almost burnt the car down. Just picked up a long range single tank. Should have done it to start with.
Ben-e-boy
15th September 2014, 07:55 PM
How did it nearly burn the car down
Dales300exc
15th September 2014, 08:03 PM
Took it for a cheeky squirt half together. Jesus. I think I went too far. Video to follow.
Solonoid changed tank but wouldn't change back so was keeping the solonoid powered while it tried creating huge draw and smoking 4mm wires.
Its all torn out now and 146l LRA tank is sitting in its new home. Should have done it to start with.
Dales300exc
15th September 2014, 08:25 PM
http://youtu.be/R0MrWnkkPiM
Ben-e-boy
15th September 2014, 08:26 PM
Video is private
Dales300exc
15th September 2014, 08:32 PM
Should be fixed.
Dales300exc
17th September 2014, 08:03 PM
Ahh it just gets better and better :) :) :).
Exhaust Monday then some much needed seat time! Boyaaa
nissannewby
17th September 2014, 09:14 PM
Drive it up here for its run in :p
Dales300exc
18th September 2014, 11:24 AM
Haha would be awesome.
The w2a is definitely working now. Drove it no pump no fan egts were 400 ish giving it some.
Changed piping route and bled it all properly, pump only (no fan) same conditions if not giving it more. Struggled to get past 300 degrees.
Fingers crossed it will do the job alright. Time will tell. Must say it was a pain in the backside to bleed it all properly.
Dales300exc
20th September 2014, 06:50 PM
Stuffed up today trying to use the vac pump return as catch can return. Came on boost and sucked in a gut full of oil. Fingers crossed all is good. Intercooler is draining over night. Still runs and sounds fine till on boost (was sucking oil from intercooler). Fingers crossed its all good.
Blocked the drain. Kinda getting over the vehicle.
Dales300exc
21st September 2014, 02:35 PM
Conversion is complete. Cars all sorted. Exhaust and drive off into the sunset.
Dales300exc
30th September 2014, 07:28 PM
Well its done about 1000ks so dropped the oil and new filters along with a new fan and fan clutch as it was running close to 100 degrees on the weekend. Loaded up car, towing a tonne and an ambient of 28ish. Doing 110 it sat just shy of 100 degrees.
Figuring not once did I hear the fan, nor have I heard it roar on cold start for a loooooong time, id bang one on it. It now roars on cold start which is a good sign. The weekend/week away will be the telling point.
Doesnt go over 82 degrees around town.
Throbbinhood
2nd October 2014, 11:13 AM
Sounds fantastic! Progress St, Doveton by chance?
Dales300exc
2nd October 2014, 03:00 PM
Haha yeh. Everyone knows where it is. I work on Progress Street.
skip187187
4th October 2014, 12:39 PM
very nice rig mate
Dales300exc
9th October 2014, 09:54 PM
Did about 1500ks on the weekend in it. Few bugs.
Just changed the front turbo housing and sorted the wastegate actuator, now I can actually control my boost im happy. Needs a bit of a clean up off boost fueling but hopefully a minor tweak will fix that.
Need to kit my powersteering pump and fit a second battery.
Still got to get to vicroads. Bit worried about if it will be as easy as a number change or they will be upset with my engine bay. Bit nervous.
Dales300exc
20th October 2014, 07:01 AM
First day out bush in it, goes great. Runs sweet and the sound is enough to make anyone smile.
Thought Toolangi would just be a dustbowl, how wrong was I.
Has a patrolapart hi flow water pump in it which seems to have helped substantially.
Dales300exc
22nd October 2014, 04:01 PM
This week has been expensive. Front LOKKA ordered and picked up a second hand front centre so I can build it and just whack it in. Ordered a shim for the LSD so ill shim that up too.
Today I picked up a 105 amp hour AGM battery for the back and a red arc DC/DC charger to ensure the deep cycle is getting charged correctly. Only down side to that setup is I can not push button jump start from the aux battery but I would rather a fully charged aux battery.
nissannewby
22nd October 2014, 07:27 PM
So when are you bring it to the sunshine state :)
Dales300exc
22nd October 2014, 09:16 PM
When I do my cape trip in there ;)
Andyh
22nd October 2014, 09:52 PM
Top post Dale.
I pick up my TD42 Sunday... lol its going to be a little bit of a process I recon, but I will just take my time and ask lots of questions I guess..
Thanks for this thread though, im sure it will come in very handy over the course of the following months ! :)
Dales300exc
10th November 2014, 11:50 AM
Still shitting me running down the highway. Its better with the highflow pump, but it still heats up to 90ish before the an howls and it comes back down.
But under very little load I still dont like it so I am going to throw a radiator at it just to be certain.
Was going to get a genuine plastic/alloy as they seem to get a good wrap. But patrolapart wont have stock until after chrissy which is too late as summer is coming quickly.
Priced a full alloy PWR radiator today as I think I am going to go that way. My intercooler from them seems to do the trick. Most likely order it this arvo. Anyone had experience?
Can always get a new copper/brass but they want to use my tanks which I dont want to. Plus in my research a good alloy should be more efficient at dispersing heat than the copper/brass.
nissannewby
10th November 2014, 12:56 PM
What thermostat are you running?
90degrees is fine.
Dales300exc
10th November 2014, 02:24 PM
76.5 degree thermostat. Runs at 75-80 cruising around 80-90.
I know 90 is not bad. But that is completely empty on a mid to high 20 degree day.
If im towing on a 35 degree day then 90 will be nothing but a number I used to see haha.
Ordered the rad. Will bang it in when it arrives and throw a couple of tonne behind it for testing purposes.
Plus I was seeing up to 110 degrees up big hill pulls holding speed just with camping gear and one dirtbike in tow.
nissannewby
10th November 2014, 03:05 PM
Does it open to the correct length in operation though? If it doesn't block the bypass port when the thermostat is fully open then coolant can just recirculate through the head.
Dales300exc
10th November 2014, 03:13 PM
I would like to think so. Brand new genuine thermostat and brand new thermostat housings top and bottom.
I will pop it out when I do the rad and check but im pretty confident it will not be faulty.
nissannewby
10th November 2014, 05:00 PM
I would like to think so. Brand new genuine thermostat and brand new thermostat housings top and bottom.
I will pop it out when I do the rad and check but im pretty confident it will not be faulty.
I don't think it will be faulty either but I don't the genuine ones are long enough. Did you use one for a NA or t motor?
Dales300exc
10th November 2014, 05:59 PM
Factory turbo engine thermostat.
Ill measure it up and shiz later in the week when the rad turns up.
The highflow water pump dropped it about 10 degrees down the highway. So if the rad drops it another 10 ill be stoked.
There is al sorts of info about high flow thermostats and stuff isnt there with the TDs?
nissannewby
10th November 2014, 06:57 PM
Yep. There is a thread on the other forum dedicated to it. Has part numbers and all.
Dales300exc
10th November 2014, 07:53 PM
Pm me the link please? Im lazy.
Dales300exc
11th November 2014, 12:31 PM
After doing some reading on thermostat heights thanks to Nissannewby, ill be putting a tridon high flow thermostat in. Sticking to a 77 degree one as thas factory turbo temp. Along with the radiator hopefully I can drive it a/c cranking, towing etc without an issue.
Dales300exc
13th November 2014, 08:23 PM
Temps are now sweet as a nut. Going faster with higher ambients it sat between 78°c and 81°c. Happy as larry.
nissannewby
13th November 2014, 08:25 PM
Temps are now sweet as a nut. Going faster with higher ambients it sat between 78°c and 81°c. Happy as larry.
Is that just with the rad or did you end up doing that thermostat as well.
Dales300exc
13th November 2014, 08:36 PM
Thermostat too. I think the thermostat is a big part of it thanks mate!
nissannewby
13th November 2014, 08:49 PM
Thermostat too. I think the thermostat is a big part of it thanks mate!
No worries. Both of these items you did today will go a long way to keeping temps stable.
Dales300exc
13th November 2014, 10:39 PM
Which means I can forget about that now and do my locker/shim and second batt!
Vinnie
14th November 2014, 10:39 AM
Hi, what do you have to say about that PWR?
Thank you,
Vinnie
Dales300exc
14th November 2014, 08:33 PM
Got motivated after work!
The intercooler or radiator? Cooler seems to do alright, egts do get to 550 if you are flat to the floor up a big arse hill from 20km/h up to 110km/h, but who drives like that anyway.
Radiator seems good so far.
nissannewby
14th November 2014, 08:42 PM
Got motivated after work!
The intercooler or radiator? Cooler seems to do alright, egts do get to 550 if you are flat to the floor up a big arse hill from 20km/h up to 110km/h, but who drives like that anyway.
Radiator seems good so far.
What's the plan here mate? Just bearings and seals? Lockers?
Dales300exc
14th November 2014, 08:59 PM
Front LOKKA, rear adding a shim.
Will inspect the bearings but there was no noises or issues so just axle seals and pinion seals while doing the work.
Dales300exc
15th November 2014, 12:47 PM
Ready to drop back in!
nissannewby
15th November 2014, 01:45 PM
Nifty idea using the pump/motor bench.
Dales300exc
15th November 2014, 03:47 PM
Annnnnnnd done. LSD is tight as. Unsure how long that'll last. Locker is doing what it should be. So happy chap.
Its actually a diff stand we reco truck diffs in. Only just held the baby pootrol diff haha.
nissannewby
15th November 2014, 04:19 PM
Yeah we use similar style tooling for our hydraulic pumps and motors for recond
Rossco
15th November 2014, 10:24 PM
Nice one. Yeah noticed that bloody massive pinion on the bench in the background
Dales300exc
17th November 2014, 09:42 AM
Yeh pretty big. Lot of failures still.
Couldn't resist the urge to go for a play with the diffs yesterday so headed out about 1.30. Went to labertouche. The auto locker performed brilliantly. Enabled me to just idle up big rocky steps that previously were a challenge. With the back wheel well and truly in the air, it just crawled along. For a touch over $400, an auto locker and shimming of LSD is the best bang for buck vehicle ability improvement I have done yet.
Heading up western I still couldn't drive due to massive ruts needing at least 35s and MTZs turning into mud wheels.
Car performed faultlessly and sat between 75°c and 80°c all day long. The intercooler barrel was stone cold to touch when I stopped to air up, after 5 hrs of sitting over the hot engine, proof the the water is flowing properly.
Lost a mudflap though :eek:
Dales300exc
17th November 2014, 12:25 PM
http://youtu.be/fmoHrCPdCpk
Unedited stuff from yesty.
Throbbinhood
17th November 2014, 01:23 PM
http://youtu.be/fmoHrCPdCpk
Unedited stuff from yesty.
you have a pm :)
Dales300exc
17th November 2014, 08:47 PM
Hids back on...
Dales300exc
18th November 2014, 05:57 PM
Hids back off. Causing electrical issues. Tried two different sets of hids, straight to the battery and the wipers come on for one cycle?
Throbbinhood
19th November 2014, 09:23 AM
Front LOKKA, rear adding a shim.
Will inspect the bearings but there was no noises or issues so just axle seals and pinion seals while doing the work.
What did the lokka end up setting you back mate?
Dales300exc
19th November 2014, 06:41 PM
375 for the lokka. 40 for hubseals and axle seals :)
Dales300exc
23rd November 2014, 05:00 PM
5th gear departed today. Not ideal :(
nissannewby
23rd November 2014, 05:08 PM
What conditions did this happen mate?
Bummer to hear to mate.
Dales300exc
23rd November 2014, 05:23 PM
Overtook under full power. 4th into 5th and was fine. Then overtook a horse float probably 10 minutes later that was doing like 80km/h in 4th. Went for fifth at a speed I shouldn't mention which was met with a crunch and free rev.
Getting over it.
Also was pushing water into the overflow so possible head gasket issue. Need to do some more testing though.
Dales300exc
25th November 2014, 06:47 PM
Pretty sure its just a shotty rad cap.
Going to pull my gearbox out and build it.
Dales300exc
30th November 2014, 11:05 PM
Picked up some 35 claws today and new mainshaft/5th gear are here. Substantially stronger than the gq one.
Dales300exc
2nd December 2014, 06:53 AM
Get the grinder out.
Dales300exc
9th December 2014, 08:27 PM
Pulled the box out today, all but down to a fine art these days haha.
Hasn't stripped splines off 5th but instead has pushed the circlip off the end of the countershaft and with it the engaging gear. New bearings and upgraded mainshaft along with new selector detents and 1st/2nd fork it should be right to rock.
Also found the source of my whine, front counter bearing had gone through hardening so it would have faily at some point.
Dales300exc
23rd December 2014, 05:05 PM
Parts from Japan showed up today for the gearbox after the couple of week wait.
Started boxing the fridge in.
Left hand gaurd has been trimmed but needs quarter cut due to rust (plates just arrived).
Have hifill and paint to touch up and paint the quarters.
Radius spacers and bumpstops are there and ready to fit after snapping 3 of 4 bump stop bolts on removal.
Ready to mount the second battery and BCDC charger in the rear.
After all this i can hopefully go bush again.
MonsterGQ
27th December 2014, 08:12 AM
Nice gq mate, looks good
Dales300exc
10th January 2015, 04:18 PM
Gearbox fixed and back in. Rust cut and plated in one side. Time consuming shit.
Dales300exc
17th January 2015, 07:04 PM
Getting out tomorrow in primer as i am hanging to go for a play.
nissannewby
18th January 2015, 10:09 PM
Coming along nicely mate.
Dales300exc
19th January 2015, 10:36 PM
Ran sweet yesty. Which was good. Fun day out.
Rear diff shits me to tears. Horrible to drive on the road. 0.7mm shim was a lousy choice.
Dales300exc
16th February 2015, 09:18 PM
Finally after 4 months I have fitted my second bettery and charger. Dam does time get away from me!!
Heading up the Murray for 4 days this weekend to finally enjoy the car and relax.
Cheers.
BlueNissanGQ
17th February 2015, 12:30 AM
Nice GQ. new in the forum post pics soon :)
MEGOMONSTER
17th February 2015, 04:53 AM
Nice GQ. new in the forum post pics soon :)
You can start with an intro , and then do a build thread of you rig.
BlueNissanGQ
17th February 2015, 01:35 PM
Looking Nice GQ :)
Dales300exc
2nd March 2015, 08:58 PM
Car went bloody terrific up to the Murray. Nothing to do atm. Just enjoy. Eventually fix my sill and roof bog from wiring. But no rush.
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