lift kits

[sporter]

my 2002 gu 3lt turbo is in desperate need of new springs an shockies , I hav spoken to several different places regarding what type of 2inch lift kit is best suited to my vehickle an my style of driving,
now i thought these suspention guys are ment to know what they are talking about,,,,, i am so confused,, one says only use foam shocks , another says only use gas, another says use a combination of both an one even said its illegal to put a 2inch lift kit on my vehickle cause of my 15inch 33 tyres but was happy to sell them to me just not fit them..funny fella.
I do travel a fair way to an from work on tar seal but also spend alot time on bush tracks and lots of beach sand dune time , so that about sums wht i use my 4x4 for .. help me out please people, i dont mind spending reosonable money just dont know what to spend it on .
cheers

[threedogs]

2" lift is legal in all states, try elsewhere, I'm happy with my 2"EFS set up,
would choose different set up if doing more billy goat driving, but ATM my rig is set
up as a tourer
Mine is as soft as I can go with accessories fitted

[MudRunnerTD]

Old Man Emu Nitro Charged Gas Shocks and OME springs in a 2" lift are Aussie made and the top of the pile. By comparison a foam shocks junk. ;)

[NissanGQ4.2]

2" lift is legal in all states, try elsewhere, I'm happy with my 2"EFS set up,
would choose different set up if doing more billy goat driving, but ATM my rig is set
up as a tourer
Mine is as soft as I can go with accessories fitted

Correct me if I'm wrong but running 33's as stated then putting a 2 inch lift would be putting him over the combined total legal lift

[Clunk]

Correct me if I'm wrong but running 33's as stated then putting a 2 inch lift would be putting him over the combined total legal lift

That was my understanding of previous posts also............ But then again, who of us aren't running that set up, or more for that matter????!!!!! ;)

My folks went to the Google Play Store and all they got me was this lousy Motorculture App!!!!!!!

[Drewboyaus]

Old Man Emu Nitro Charged Gas Shocks and OME springs in a 2" lift are Aussie made and the top of the pile. By comparison a foam shocks junk. ;)

X2. Old Man Emu for sure mate.


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[YNOT]

Correct me if I'm wrong but running 33's as stated then putting a 2 inch lift would be putting him over the combined total legal lift

Technically you are correct but you would have to be extremely unlucky to be booked for a 2" lift and 33's on a Patrol.

[Drewboyaus]

Correct me if I'm wrong but running 33's as stated then putting a 2 inch lift would be putting him over the combined total legal lift

Isn't it now within the new national guidelines now that you can run 33's and a 50mm lift without engineering?


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[Punderhead]

On qld you can run a 2" lift and 33"s on a patrol legally. Also I believe in nsw. Not sure about the other states.

Cheers

[AB]

On qld you can run a 2" lift and 33"s on a patrol legally. Also I believe in nsw. Not sure about the other states.

Cheers

Same as vic too mate.


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[BigRAWesty]

Isn't it now within the new national guidelines now that you can run 33's and a 50mm lift without engineering?


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The national thing was a huge flop and went nowhere...
SA is 50mm max, and 7mm tyre.. Yep, you read that right...

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)

[Woodsta1704]

I went with Tough Dog Foam cell shocks and the 200kg front and rear springs. Check out the link below for WA if that's where you are (interesting stuff is in section 4):

[paulyg]

Vic is 75mm total lift, tyres + springs.

[NissanGQ4.2]

Isn't it now within the new national guidelines now that you can run 33's and a 50mm lift without engineering?


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Do we have new national guidelines *LMAO*

[NissanGQ4.2]

Technically you are correct but you would have to be extremely unlucky to be booked for a 2" lift and 33's on a Patrol.

Yes extremely unlucky Tony, but the salesman has every reason 2 say he won't install them if he believes it 2 be illegal

[happygu]

Vic is 75mm total lift, tyres + springs.

Is that the current regulations now, or something that is proposed?

Mic

[NissanGQ4.2]

I'm not the smartest cooking in the class

But from my understanding from both VIC Roads modification guide (http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rdonlyres/9B3A858D-15A0-4572-90BF-3D08214BF7BE/0/VSInumber8Guidetomodificationsformotorvehicles.pdf ) and infrastractures NCOP11 Section LS Tyres Suspension Steering ( VSB14 ) (http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/pdf/NCOP11_Section_LS_Tyres_Suspension_Steering_V2_1Ja n_2011%20v3.pdf)

50mm is still the current Total limit above factory ride height

But sometimes ( most ) I just don't understand what is written in front of me so I am probable wrong

[oddkid82]

Is that the current regulations now, or something that is proposed?

Mic

That is the current regulations.

[Drewboyaus]

I'm not the smartest cooking in the class

But from my understanding from both VIC Roads modification guide (http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rdonlyres/9B3A858D-15A0-4572-90BF-3D08214BF7BE/0/VSInumber8Guidetomodificationsformotorvehicles.pdf ) and infrastractures NCOP11 Section LS Tyres Suspension Steering ( VSB14 ) (http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/pdf/NCOP11_Section_LS_Tyres_Suspension_Steering_V2_1Ja n_2011%20v3.pdf)

50mm is still the current Total limit above factory ride height

But sometimes ( most ) I just don't understand what is written in front of me so I am probable wrong

13.3.1 Option 1 on page 7 of the VicRoads guide:
"This option allows a combination of suspension lift and the fitting of larger diameter tyres that results in a total lift of up to 75 mm without the need for the testing and certification normally required by VSB 14 for lifts above 50 mm provided the following requirements are met."

What it does call into question though is fitting combinations of springs and shocks that are not part of a matched kit from a single manufacturer......


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[BigRAWesty]

13.3.1 Option 1 on page 7 of the VicRoads guide:
"This option allows a combination of suspension lift and the fitting of larger diameter tyres that results in a total lift of up to 75 mm without the need for the testing and certification normally required by VSB 14 for lifts above 50 mm provided the following requirements are met."

What it does call into question though is fitting combinations of springs and shocks that are not part of a matched kit from a single manufacturer......


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So as I read it for you guys, you can 'legally' install a 50mm spring lift and the either 25mm in body or tyres to give an over all of 75mm.. Or any other combination..

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)

[NissanGQ4.2]

Thanks Drew,

Must of speed read past that paragraph, I did say I wasn't the smartest cooking *L*

[Drewboyaus]

Westy,
I'm not sure you can include a body lift in that 75mm. I think it is limited to suspension an tyres but could be wrong.
As I also suggested I'm not sure whether it allows fitting a combo of King springs and Bilstein shocks as an example. The way I read it the suspension should be a complete kit from the like of OME, Ironman etc.


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[BigRAWesty]

Westy,
I'm not sure you can include a body lift in that 75mm. I think it is limited to suspension an tyres but could be wrong.
As I also suggested I'm not sure whether it allows fitting a combo of King springs and Bilstein shocks as an example. The way I read it the suspension should be a complete kit from the like of OME, Ironman etc.


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Yep, good point. It's not mentioned so best to leave it..
As for mix and match, places like suspension stuff sell "kits" that are made up of strings from one place and shocks from another..
In the end, I think Its how well you work the situation with the bloke assessing or writing the fine..

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)

[sporter]

ok guys so im gunna stick my 33s an do the 2inch lift , an as for wht type type of shocks would suit my 4x4 it is now my understanding that foam is good if i was doing alot of travelling
on rough corragated gravel road type work, an gas better suited to take the bigger hits that you often encounter on beaches an dunes given their abbility to compress and rebound quicker, so think im going with gas unless someone strongly convinces me otherwise
thanks guys
STEVE

[happygu]

I would stick with the Gas Option.

I have had Koni's for years, and have had OME in the past, and they have never let me down in thousands of K's.

Mic

[TimE]

Be aware that a "50mm" lift will settle with weight and time, so in fact what is sold as "50mm" may well end up being something less.

I have a Ridepro "70mm" lift (matched springs and shock) that had settled to being a measured 50mm lift with all the aftermarket gear (drawers, rear bar, second spare etc) I have bolted up.

[paulyg]

I have heavy duty 50mm OME on mine and I put 30mm spacers on the back to level it out a bit when fully loaded

[Limmy]

i'm going to 33tyres . 2" lift , and ....50mm coil spacers ( if I get booked, won't be hard to get em off over a weekend )