Air/ exhaust bag lifts comparison.

[mudnut]

Further to BA's thread, I need to replace my HI Lift jack. (mine bent while lifting the rear of the Old Trol, and I will never use another, unless no other option is available). I have spent some time researching air bag type jacks, and I am none the wiser as to which one to purchase. If you have one, I welcome your assessment of its abilities and build quality.

[Bloodyaussie]

I will watch this interest to....

[threedogs]

I always thought to bulky to store especially after use, happy to be proven wrong,
I to will watch and wait

[MudRunnerTD]

$100 off ebay is a winner

[mudnut]

Is that what you have, MR? How long have you had it?

[healy]

Yeah I've got one used it once worked well not bulky at all mine come with a bag can store it anywhere really on my one tho I use a ring clamp (not sure what there called) to suit the exhaust

[mudski]

I always thought to bulky to store especially after use, happy to be proven wrong,
I to will watch and wait
Can prove you wrong TD. Once you use them it take around five minutes to get all the exhaust out of the bag and just fold it up, the right way and it fits back in the bag. used mine twice now and love it. So easy to use.

[Bloodyaussie]

So any exhaust jack on ebay is fine then??????

[mudski]

Just remember you get what you pay for bud. I wouldn't be paying $100 for a exhaust jack personally. It's like your cheap hi-lift. You use it when you need it and what happened? Same thought should apply for the exhaust jack. You don't really want to put it under your car, start pumping it up only to find its leaking.

[mudnut]

http://www.bushranger.com.au/exhaust_jack.php#.UbcNx-DFnZU

I saw this bushranger one for $240. Is it the name you're paying for? Or is it really a superior product? Is there the same product in a generic brand?

[the evil twin]

Here is the one I have... http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/4-2-Tonne-Exhaust-4WD-Air-Jack-Multi-Layer-Sand-Snow-Mud-/310504810856?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item484b876968#ht_2924wt_1399

They are going for around $100... less than 1/2 the weight of a hi-lift, heaps safer and I just stuff it back in the bag and throw it on the roof rack with a couple of bungy's

Bought it about 4 years ago (the one in the Ebay link has a few extra pieces in the bag).
Been used maybe a dozen or more times now and still works fine.
Rated at 4.2 tonne but FWIW I have never loaded it to even 50% of that.

I reckon it would suck as a fence post remover tho...

[MudRunnerTD]

Here is the one I have... http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/4-2-Tonne-Exhaust-4WD-Air-Jack-Multi-Layer-Sand-Snow-Mud-/310504810856?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item484b876968#ht_2924wt_1399

They are going for around $100... less than 1/2 the weight of a hi-lift, heaps safer and I just stuff it back in the bag and throw it on the roof rack with a couple of bungy's

Bought it about 4 years ago (the one in the Ebay link has a few extra pieces in the bag).
Been used maybe a dozen or more times now and still works fine.
Rated at 4.2 tonne but FWIW I have never loaded it to even 50% of that.

I reckon it would suck as a fence post remover tho...


I have the same bag. The Bush Ranger one is a rip off and most likely Identical in every way to the Ebay one. Its a heavy Duty Plastic Bag. End of story!!!

i have used mine in anger 20 or 30 times and rate it very highly. when i have used it others have simply stood in surprised at how bloody brilliant it is!

[MudRunnerTD]

here are some pics of an Exhaust jack being used in anger

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/Stripping%20the%20GQ/GQ%20CV%20rebuild/P1060048-2.jpg

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/Stripping%20the%20GQ/GQ%20CV%20rebuild/P1060049-2.jpg

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/Stripping%20the%20GQ/GQ%20CV%20rebuild/P1060054-2.jpg

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/Stripping%20the%20GQ/GQ%20CV%20rebuild/P1060047-2.jpg

I ran the winch cable out to the side as there was a slight side slope and the bag will roll if the front gets too light.

Try doing that with a HiLift! Not a chance! i have 300mm of travel in my front end! with the exhaust jack i needed none of it! ;)

[MudRunnerTD]

Oh yeah.... Apparently i broke a CV?? WTF??

Still not sure? think its serviceable.

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/Stripping%20the%20GQ/GQ%20CV%20rebuild/P1060052-2.jpg

[Drewboyaus]

Daz,
Those must be photoshopped pictures.
We all know that GQ doesn't exist!
LoL......


Tip tip tip......tap tap tap....

[patrolmq]

I just got one $85 delivered off eBay, 4t capacity, very thick material, 2 protection mats and a bag. Tried it out and works fine. Are the $240 versions 4x tougher?

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[DX grunt]

http://www.bushranger.com.au/exhaust_jack.php#.UbcNx-DFnZU

I saw this bushranger one for $240. Is it the name you're paying for? Or is it really a superior product? Is there the same product in a generic brand?

I'm confusing myself a bit, but in April I bought a Bushranger X Jack for $317 and a hose extension (1450mm) for $29.50, totalling $346.50

http://www.bushranger.com.au/xjack.php

I can't remember why I had to get the hose extension, but I remember saying something about a Patrol.

I've still got the receipt.

Do your homework on this one MN

Rossco

[Cuppa]

There is a huge difference in prices on these airbags on eBay. All the same 4 tonne orange TLV models in an orange bag with 6 metres of hose plus able to use air compressor to inflate, plus a mat & a pair of gloves.

Delivered prices range from $109 to $195. Even the cheapest of those is still significantly more than what I paid just 6 months ago for an identical bag/kit. I paid $82 delivered in December '12.

Cuppa

[Bloodyaussie]

I just want to know why Danny is doing the work Daz?

[mudnut]

Thanks, blokes for the replies and PMs. So the general consensus seems to be that fleabay ones are the same bags as the dearer ones. And that they all beat Hi lift jacks, hands down. I did notice that some of the dearer ones have repair kits.

[mudnut]

I had a quick read of the safety SUGGESTIONS. I do believe not using the airbag for vehicle maintenance, or taking off the wheels or using it on a slope, was mentioned.:tease:

[MudRunnerTD]

I had a quick read of the safety SUGGESTIONS. I do believe not using the airbag for vehicle maintenance, or taking off the wheels or using it on a slope, was mentioned.:tease:

Yes it absolutely is mentioned.

So not really sure what you a re supposed to use one for???

If you have a look a the pics of it in use you will note that the winch rope is run out for safety and the wheel is placed under the car for safety.

They work very very well and i have changed a tyre a number of times in the bush using the bag. You must be mindful, as you would with a Hilift of the safety needs of the lift.

[mudnut]

Yeah, I saw all the precautions you used I was just being silly. I never get under a jacked vehicle with out the removed wheel or spare under the body. My Hi lift jack started bowing out side ways when I was doing the diff breathers. I was out from under there like a shot.

[threedogs]

Trouble is here MR is you are experienced,need to take into account someone starting out.
my take on an exhaust jack would be awesome on the beach and in the Simpson. Just something else to take LOL
Best tip I was given was throw the mechanical OE jack and buy a 20 Tonne hydraulic job cheap as, about the same size and very
easy on the arms, great for solid flat surfaces

[mudski]

Best tip I was given was throw the mechanical OE jack and buy a 20 Tonne hydraulic job cheap as, about the same size and very
easy on the arms, great for solid flat surfaces
No way mate! Nothing better that skinning your knuckles on the ground when winding that bloody jack up at a million revs a minute.

[menace 2]

Yes it absolutely is mentioned.

So not really sure what you a re supposed to use one for???

If you have a look a the pics of it in use you will note that the winch rope is run out for safety and the wheel is placed under the car for safety.

They work very very well and i have changed a tyre a number of times in the bush using the bag. You must be mindful, as you would with a Hilift of the safety needs of the lift.

Probably to lift the vehicle if bogged in sand etc so you can get tracks under ?
Could double as a bean bag maybe ???