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Bloodyaussie
3rd June 2013, 07:05 PM
I think I am coming around to the way of thinking of many that have suffered the long prosses of cleaning out there rig and sorting strange gremlins after playing in big bog holes!!!
Besides beaking my lower control arm (easy fix) and a front wheel bearing that has given up I now have the central locking and alarm playing up!!!!! bloody hell.
My clutch always feels ship after playing in to much of that crap and now I think this is the straw that broke the camels back.... No more jumping into big bog holes.
The alarm is pissing me off because I am trying to sort out my bearing issue and I am a male who can only think long and hard about one subject matter at a time!!
Seeing AB avoiding big puddles had me confused and now I can see he saw the light some time ago?
Winnie
3rd June 2013, 07:07 PM
I think I am coming around to the way of thinking of many that have suffered the long prosses of cleaning out there rig and sorting strange gremlins after playing in big bog holes!!!
Besides beaking my lower control arm (easy fix) and a front wheel bearing that has given up I now have the central locking and alarm playing up!!!!! bloody hell.
My clutch always feels shit after playing in to much of that crap and now I think this is the straw that broke the camels back.... No more jumping into big bog holes.
The alarm is pissing me off because I am trying to sort out my bearing issue and I am a male who can only think long and hard about one subject matter at a time!!
Seeing AB avoiding big puddles had me confused and now I can see he saw the light some time ago?
Gee mate you're even behind me!
If you're happy and you know it tap a post!
threedogs
3rd June 2013, 07:10 PM
You have learnt well Grasshopper
MEGOMONSTER
3rd June 2013, 07:10 PM
I think I am coming around to the way of thinking of many that have suffered the long prosses of cleaning out there rig and sorting strange gremlins after playing in big bog holes!!!
Besides beaking my lower control arm (easy fix) and a front wheel bearing that has given up I now have the central locking and alarm playing up!!!!! bloody hell.
My clutch always feels shit after playing in to much of that crap and now I think this is the straw that broke the camels back.... No more jumping into big bog holes.
The alarm is pissing me off because I am trying to sort out my bearing issue and I am a male who can only think long and hard about one subject matter at a time!!
Seeing AB avoiding big puddles had me confused and now I can see he saw the light some time ago?
Stop your whinging and clean that shot out. Sorry. Lol
happygu
3rd June 2013, 07:11 PM
BA, i came to the same conclusion a while back.
Still do bog holes when they are necessary, but avoid them at other times, and just watch the rest of you....
Mic
Bloodyaussie
3rd June 2013, 07:14 PM
Stop your whinging and clean that shot out. Sorry. Lol
Shut up you giant, I'll get myself a ladder and punch you in the neck!!!!
No really I just started getting stuff sorted and now I feel I have gone backwards?
taslucas
3rd June 2013, 07:14 PM
toughen up cuddles
Bloodyaussie
3rd June 2013, 07:17 PM
toughen up cuddles
You who has a dunnydoor to drive around in now dont you??
You live in Tas so you have no choice to drive in puddy muddles!!!!!
Sir Roofy
3rd June 2013, 07:17 PM
Was wondering how long it would take you
can have muddy days out but skirt the bogs
unless no other way round
Ben-e-boy
3rd June 2013, 07:17 PM
Shut up you giant, I'll get myself a ladder and punch you in the neck!!!!
No really I just started getting stuff sorted and now I feel I have gone backwards?
Thats why I play on the rocks lol.
krbrooking
3rd June 2013, 07:22 PM
I'm with you ba I only go through the bog holes if I have to, as fun as they are, they are so not worth it. Slippery slopes like the climb up from the damb on the other hand, well you still have to clean your car pretty well but there is less water to help the mud get into all the small spots and the hill was so much more fun, I could almost go up and down it all day.
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MEGOMONSTER
3rd June 2013, 07:25 PM
Shut up you giant, I'll get myself a ladder and punch you in the neck!!!!
No really I just started getting stuff sorted and now I feel I have gone backwards?
Stay out the puddles, Cuddles. PML
But I do understand your frustrations.
Come here buddy, I give you a true blue man hug. ( some people say they're more like a bear hug, I can't understand why, I'm a gentle giant.
AB
3rd June 2013, 07:30 PM
Cost + time outweighs the fun mate.....lol
Alternators, A/C, clutch, muddy water in diffs, transfer and gearbox, etc.....rust in bellhousing, CV's, etc It all adds up.
But....Its bloody good fun though so we need a PIG to do that stuff...lol
threedogs
3rd June 2013, 07:37 PM
Don't forget radiator, look how much money AB saved you.lol
Cant do bog holes with a daily driver ,you're not proving anything
Woof
3rd June 2013, 07:44 PM
Cost + time outweighs the fun mate.....lol
Alternators, A/C, clutch, muddy water in diffs, transfer and gearbox, etc.....rust in bellhousing, CV's, etc It all adds up.
But....Its bloody good fun though so we need a PIG to do that stuff...lol
AB, meet THE PIG..........owned and driven by Ash who owns Perth 4X4....and as you can tell it is PINK
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm190/Uriah57/166563_524509597569514_1866892322_n_zps19d3c32b.jp g (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/Uriah57/media/166563_524509597569514_1866892322_n_zps19d3c32b.jp g.html)
AB
3rd June 2013, 07:46 PM
Don't forget radiator, look how much money AB saved you.lol
Cant do bog holes with a daily driver ,you're not proving anything
I think muds ok (not Darren's otways 5 foot deep mud). It's the dirty watery deep holes that are no good. The grit gets in everything!!!!
I would rather be stuck in a muddy hole than a watery hole like those vids in the first post.
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AB
3rd June 2013, 07:47 PM
AB, meet THE PIG..........owned and driven by Ash who owns Perth 4X4....and as you can tell it is PINK
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm190/Uriah57/166563_524509597569514_1866892322_n_zps19d3c32b.jp g (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/Uriah57/media/166563_524509597569514_1866892322_n_zps19d3c32b.jp g.html)
That would be fun!!! As long as I'm not maintaining it that would be awesome...lol
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taslucas
3rd June 2013, 08:00 PM
Cost + time outweighs the fun mate.....lol
Alternators(thats pretty deep!), A/C (yeah you got me there!), clutch(buy an auto), muddy water in diffs(extend your breathers), transfer and gearbox (extend your breathers), etc.....rust in bellhousing(buy an auto), CV's, etc It all adds up.
But....Its bloody good fun though so we need a PIG to do that stuff...lol
hahahaha
Did someone say PIG?
http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/taslucas1/jaysfaceblurred_zps8a5bf461.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/taslucas1/media/jaysfaceblurred_zps8a5bf461.jpg.html)
http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/taslucas1/DSC02871_zps510f9f96.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/taslucas1/media/DSC02871_zps510f9f96.jpg.html)
http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/taslucas1/DSC02868_zpsd2616a41.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/taslucas1/media/DSC02868_zpsd2616a41.jpg.html)
taslucas
3rd June 2013, 08:04 PM
Damn my little pig has nothing on that BIG FAT PINK PIG!!!! lmao, mine was free though:)
Ive seen the PINK PIG in 4wda a while ago. Neat rig:)
MudRunnerTD
3rd June 2013, 08:05 PM
Photos? I got some photos... What? Not guilty. Don't like mud even!
taslucas
3rd June 2013, 08:07 PM
Photos? I got some photos... What? Not guilty. Don't like mud even!
Time to change your name to rockrunner:)
TPC
3rd June 2013, 08:25 PM
Loveday cured me of my desire to play in bog holes.
After 20 minutes play I spent about 5 Hrs removing and fixing the alternator and cleaning the radiator so I could drive home.
AB
3rd June 2013, 08:39 PM
Yes alternator....lol
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=27647&d=1359459858
Hodge
3rd June 2013, 08:43 PM
Very much agree with Bloodyaussie on this one. It's a can of worms topic amongst my mates and workmates who are into 4x4-ing. Bogholes always start an argument. Very sensitive topic.
If it can be avoided, avoid it!!!
I know several blokes who own 4x4s and 4x4 utes, who cannot wait till the weekend strikes, so they can head up to mount dissa, toolangi wombat etc, purely for search for deepest dirtiest bogholes they can find. Call me stupid, arrogant, silly whatever you want... But I cannot for the life of me understand what is so fun about pushing your 4x4 you sunk your $$$ into, through a mass of water littered with god knows what... over and over again. Fair enough if you're heading to a camp site, touring and bogholes are a part of the track and unavoidable, then it's a 4x4 challenge to get through and/or recover.
Go to youtube and type in toolangi 4x4, dissapointment 4x4 etc... 99% of videos are blokes going through bogs over and over again just dredging them deeper. That to me is not 4x4-ing. It's more so to show whos dick and wallet is thicker... It's also giving an excuse to those greenies and parks vic. for locking gates all over the joint, for that very reason. And this in turn also keeps the people are more responsible out as well.
And then, As Bloody found, there is the damage to the car. That ship gets into places you'd never thought possible and gently and slowly buttf**** your cars components until it's game over.
Hope you sort your issues out Bloody!
Cuppa
3rd June 2013, 08:44 PM
You have learnt well Grasshopper
Words are easy, have to wait until the next wet trip to see whether the lesson has been learned, or if the the lure of the mud will take over again! :)
Cuppa
healy
3rd June 2013, 08:55 PM
have a cup of concrete
Bloodyaussie
3rd June 2013, 09:01 PM
One other issue I have is margherita being in the ships with me for days as she said this was suppose to be the car we take the family away in.... now it has a nice brown stain in the carpets..
The mechicals I can deal with but the electrics really ship me...
You know how many times I have been stuck in that bloody bog hole and it is only now that I may have learned? ?
AB
3rd June 2013, 09:51 PM
Photos? I got some photos... What? Not guilty. Don't like mud even!
Where are these photos Daz of this so called "G....Q"....lol
93patrol
3rd June 2013, 09:52 PM
Is that where you've chipped yourself BA with the stains??? Lollololol
Guns don't kill people, people with mustachios kill people
Bloodyaussie
3rd June 2013, 09:58 PM
Darren does not have a gq..... we would have seen it by now? ??
Its funny up until the last year I have always had a work/personal car and a bike or toy car but now when I really should I bloody dont??
taslucas
4th June 2013, 08:08 AM
Darren does not have a gq..... we would have seen it by now? ??
Its funny up until the last year I have always had a work/personal car and a bike or toy car but now when I really should I bloody dont??
Yeah i bought a cheap commonbore for a daily. It instantly makes your patrol a "weekend warrior" lol
threedogs
4th June 2013, 08:19 AM
Easy as BA shift next door to Yendor,
Do you use Mud from your TROL to top dress your grass?
TPC
4th June 2013, 09:54 AM
Do you use Mud from your TROL to top dress your grass?
I did that with Njarkat mud on the front lawn, would not grow in spots for two years after.
I always get rid of bulk of mud in wash bay now.
Avo
4th June 2013, 10:14 AM
I H8 MUD,i have always avoided it.When i first started 4wd ing i did a bit of reading and i couldn't see the point after reading all the problems people have.my 4b is really just a car we use on trips to get off the beaten track.
Bloodyaussie
4th June 2013, 11:16 AM
Ok here is an update... at the detrament of work I had to sort out that steering problem as it was dangerous.
It turns out it was the bottom swivel hub bearing and it was full of grit/mud and water.
Took one out of the donor car as a quick fix until the lokka turns up.
Still need to go for a test drive though??
Now my central locking does not work but the alarm does.. the unit that actually controls the locking part was below the water line????
Thinking about getting a whole new system installed as mine was cheap shit anyway? anyone recommend a good alarm/central locking that does not cost an arm and a leg.
Still need to hit my alternator with some compressed air to get some of the mud out of the bearing.
Finish this coffee and go for a test drive... maybe past Georges work and see if I sorted the shudder while turning?
Sir Roofy
4th June 2013, 12:08 PM
Lmfao the pain in the hip pocket is starting to come through
healy
4th June 2013, 02:23 PM
so whos gonna do the bog holes now then
Cuppa
4th June 2013, 02:39 PM
I think that cup of concrete needs to be a bloody big 'cup' containing extremely fast setting concrete...........mounted on BA's bonnet with an automatic tipping device activated by a bog hole sensor on the front bumper! :harhar:
Cuppa
MudRunnerTD
4th June 2013, 02:45 PM
Hey if it's any consilation my GQ is still not rolling after the December Mud bath!!! And I'm down about $3.5k
I love mud!
taslucas
4th June 2013, 03:07 PM
Hey if it's any consilation my GQ is imaginary and doesn't exist
Ahh thought so!
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Bloodyaussie
4th June 2013, 03:27 PM
Thanks for all your advice on mud avoidance. .... now how about you all come round to help me fix it hey???
That grinding noise is still there but no where near as bad, I have started stripping the other cars front and am rebuilding it then will swap the whole thing over.
Still have to sort the central locking out and the clutch now has a shudder but that has happened before and seems to sort itself out? ?
Darren this is fwarrked.
MEGOMONSTER
4th June 2013, 05:03 PM
EVERYONE, LOOKS LIKE CUDDLES NEEDS A CUDDLE.
C'mon group hug.
mudnut
4th June 2013, 05:17 PM
I wonder if putting a hose in the bell housing, and washing it out is an option. Is asbestos an issue in the GQs?
Bloodyaussie
4th June 2013, 05:19 PM
I'll give you a cuddle all right!!!!
Ok now I am starting to think it is coming from the rear.. my left shock has a dent in it and there seems to be a lot of backlash?
Could not get right into it as I am on daddy duty and in clean clothes.
Is there anything that could have happened driving 80km with the axle not straight??? I was a GQ crab.
Cuppa
4th June 2013, 05:22 PM
That grinding noise is still there but no where near as bad,
That'll probably be because the parts that were grinding have almost ground themselves away by now & the metal filings have mixed with the grease to act as a sort of 'cushioning' lubricant to what's left until the whole thing collapses.:eek:
Cuppa
Ps. Rubbing it in like this is for your own good!
threedogs
4th June 2013, 05:37 PM
Rip the front diff out of donor GQ, we'll laminate it strengthen knuckles, blast and POR15 it, weld on a pumpkin protector.
then fit to your weekend /daily mud basher
happygu
4th June 2013, 05:45 PM
I'll give you a cuddle all right!!!!
Ok now I am starting to think it is coming from the rear.. my left shock has a dent in it and there seems to be a lot of backlash?
Could not get right into it as I am on daddy duty and in clean clothes.
Is there anything that could have happened driving 80km with the axle not straight??? I was a GQ crab.
Might not have helped your uni joints on the tailshaft...
Mic
Bloodyaussie
4th June 2013, 05:54 PM
Might not have helped your uni joints on the tailshaft...
Mic
Yeah a bit worried about it...... starting to depress me as I have screwed up big this time and the wife has expectations and this aint it!!!!!
Going to look at the whole driveline of the other car and see whats good.
happygu
4th June 2013, 06:18 PM
It will be back on the road in no time at all......
Once you find it, it should be all good again.
Mic
Bloodyaussie
4th June 2013, 06:22 PM
It is also my work car...... need a working be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
happygu
4th June 2013, 06:33 PM
I did try to post regarding your central locking module, but it didn't seem to go through....... but if you take it out, open it up, and hit it with the hairdryer for 10 or 15 minutes to dry it out it may come good.
You could also put it over the ducted heating vents for an evening....
No harm in trying.
Mic
Bloodyaussie
4th June 2013, 07:34 PM
Are these any good???????????
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Nissan-Patrol-Y60-GQ-Series-1-GU-Front-Rear-Adjustable-Panhard-Rod-DIY-Kit-/130917390730?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e7b48d98a&_uhb=1
taslucas
4th June 2013, 09:08 PM
Are these any good???????????
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Nissan-Patrol-Y60-GQ-Series-1-GU-Front-Rear-Adjustable-Panhard-Rod-DIY-Kit-/130917390730?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e7b48d98a&_uhb=1
Id be interested in some info on these too:)
Bloodyaussie
4th June 2013, 09:35 PM
Id be interested in some info on these too:)
Yeah no one will give me an opinion until after I buy them then they will say what did you do that for they are shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MudRunnerTD
4th June 2013, 09:40 PM
So the idea of those is that you cut and shut your factory panard and weld these into them.
Hmmmmmmmmm.........
So how thick was the steal in the lower trailing arms?
Your call
Bloodyaussie
4th June 2013, 09:44 PM
Smart ass... why dont you just say "No dont do it"... I can accept that, not sarcasim!!!!
Bloody GU drivers!!!!!!!!!
Clunk
4th June 2013, 09:44 PM
Yeah no one will give me an opinion until after I buy them then they will say what did you do that for they are shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe, just maybe, no one on here has any experience with them and that's why you might not be getting an answer. Maybe no one wants to say, yep they're great, then you go and get some only to say, nah they're shite......... ;)
Tapped on crappola MC
MudRunnerTD
4th June 2013, 09:45 PM
Nah they're Shit!
Bloodyaussie
4th June 2013, 10:06 PM
Nah they're Shit!
Thanks Daz... I value your opinion!!!!
happygu
4th June 2013, 10:46 PM
BA,
I think that they would do the job, but in saying that, I have the Superior Engineering Panhard - and I wouldn't give it back....
Mic
healy
4th June 2013, 11:12 PM
Are these any good???????????
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Nissan-Patrol-Y60-GQ-Series-1-GU-Front-Rear-Adjustable-Panhard-Rod-DIY-Kit-/130917390730?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e7b48d98a&_uhb=1
I reckon it would be weak compared to a superior etc I'd go with buying the whole thing mate
healy
4th June 2013, 11:14 PM
It is also my work car...... need a working be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When you thinking
GQ TANK
4th June 2013, 11:43 PM
Ifg you pull the central locking module out - wack it in a bowl of rice over night - will help with getting the water out
Bloodyaussie
5th June 2013, 06:08 PM
Ifg you pull the central locking module out - wack it in a bowl of rice over night - will help with getting the water out
Bloody forgot to take it out last night???
Its freezing outside... I'll go get it, dont hold much hope for it.
George took my car for a drive today and is leaning towards the uni's being stuffed, am going to fit the one off the donor car to see if this solves the problem.
Driving me mad... oh and I may being doing my clutch again as I was a tight ass and bought a cheap clutch and now it seems to have some issues? should look at warranty??
threedogs
5th June 2013, 06:17 PM
Uni's will give a humming sound plus vibration of course
Bloodyaussie
5th June 2013, 06:24 PM
BA,
I think that they would do the job, but in saying that, I have the Superior Engineering Panhard - and I wouldn't give it back....
Mic
Yeah cheers I will go down that path but I need to concentrate and getting all the other stuff fixed??
I almost have the gearbox out of my donor car and I think it has had a much easier life than mine and I will also put a real clutch in not the cheap shit one I did the first time.
I also have most of the front axle out and will build that with my Lokka if it ever fricking turns up?
I need the car to be in good reliable nick and the last trip pushed some of the parts on my car over the edge.
Really was worth its weight buying the donor car.
MudRunnerTD
5th June 2013, 07:08 PM
mate having a Donor car is a winner mate. especially if they have the same engine too! i was keen as to buy a donor GQ TD42 but they are ridiculously expensive apparently damn it!
so i will try an swap out all the weak crap on the GQ with quality and tough GU stuff ;)
Drewboyaus
5th June 2013, 07:50 PM
One other issue I have is margherita being in the ships with me for days as she said this was suppose to be the car we take the family away in.... now it has a nice brown stain in the carpets..
It's ok, the mud comes out......
After removing the entire interior and 2 weeks of blasting the carpet with high pressure water and letting it dry out.....
Been there........
boots
5th June 2013, 08:34 PM
...but the ships can anchor in the bay for weeks ...
Bloodyaussie
5th June 2013, 08:39 PM
...but the ships can anchor in the bay for weeks ...
What you talking about Chris? ????
MudRunnerTD
5th June 2013, 08:46 PM
It's ok, the mud comes out......
After removing the entire interior and 2 weeks of blasting the carpet with high pressure water and letting it dry out.....
Been there........
Wow really!!! Thank god for that! I was ready to give up! I will keep trying then! The GQ has been parked for 7 months and I am still finding fresh mud!!!
Bloodyaussie
5th June 2013, 08:58 PM
Yeah I have decided to strip out the carpet and put the one from my donor car in... it is so manky!!
Hodge
5th June 2013, 09:07 PM
Yeah I have decided to strip out the carpet and put the one from my donor car in... it is so manky!!
If you're gonna strip the interior/carpet, have you considered vinyl then instead? Might help in case of these incidents in the future.
Bloodyaussie
5th June 2013, 09:16 PM
I will not be doing that again if I can help it.. I have the carpet here so will not cost anything but time!!
Bloodyaussie
6th June 2013, 10:45 PM
So I got new uni's for the rear shaft but while fitting them there were problems so I used the one from the donor car which were not in as good condtion but my car drives perfect now???
Now this brings me to the question has anyone ever bent a rear shaft????????????????? (the extra question marks are for you Lucas)
Even the clutch feels good now although I only nipped up to the supermarket quickly tomorrow will be the real test but for now it is 100 times better than before changing the tail shaft.
Cuppa
6th June 2013, 10:53 PM
Well done mate, sounds like you're getting there.
Cuppa
6th June 2013, 10:58 PM
If you're gonna strip the interior/carpet, have you considered vinyl then instead? Might help in case of these incidents in the future.
Being the owner of a DX with vinyl floor covering I am not at all convinced that it would be better in the case of a flooded car. When I bought the car it smelled a bit musty in the cab, but I thought it would go away if I let it 'air out'. But it didn't, it got worse. In part because I had a leak when it rained, but mainly because all the insulation under the vinyl was sopping wet & not drying out because it was under the vinyl. With the leak fixed & the vinyl & insulation removed to dry out (took about 10 days) & replace, all is now good.
Cuppa
TPC
6th June 2013, 11:26 PM
BA you know as soon as you see something like this in front of you all control will be lost and you will charge in.
mudski
6th June 2013, 11:32 PM
If you need to you a press BA I have a 12ton press in my garage....
Bloodyaussie
7th June 2013, 08:17 AM
Cheers Mark I will remember that for next time...
I forgot to mention that last night while putting the rear shaft in I noticed the left rear shock pissing oil out of it, it is a Peddars shock.
Should I try and just replace one or do I get a pair of something else, whats the go with mixing front and rear to different brands???
Alitis007
7th June 2013, 08:31 AM
Change the pair coz if you change just one all the load will fall on it and will shorten its life
taslucas
7th June 2013, 08:38 AM
BA you know as soon as you see something like this in front of you all control will be lost and you will charge in.
What? A defender? Lol
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Bloodyaussie
7th June 2013, 08:52 AM
Change the pair coz if you change just one all the load will fall on it and will shorten its life
Yeah but can I change brands or is it best to have matching 4 and due to my car being a bit higher than 2inches should I get a longer shock??
MudRunnerTD
7th June 2013, 08:54 AM
nah matching on the axle is very important but front and back not so much
Bloodyaussie
7th June 2013, 09:31 AM
Thanks Daz...... Any recomendations without costing the earth?? dont need some superflex multi doda whop whop ones.
Alitis007
7th June 2013, 10:12 AM
Get bielstein.......
MudRunnerTD
7th June 2013, 10:38 AM
what is on the Donor car?
Bloodyaussie
7th June 2013, 12:41 PM
Stock nissan ones Daz... not even close to an option.
Look into some options when I get 2 seconds??
Bloodyaussie
7th June 2013, 05:50 PM
What are those Rancho RS9000 adjusable shocks like?????
Hodge
7th June 2013, 06:00 PM
What are those Rancho RS9000 adjusable shocks like?????
Had them on my D22 up front. They did what they are intended to do, that being a shock absorber. After them being installed for about 10k on the car, I started them on 3 as my optimum setting, I kept having to turn it up a notch every month or so, as they became way too soft. I got up to setting 7 at which point the car sold so... That was my experience.
Bloodyaussie
7th June 2013, 06:08 PM
Had them on my D22 up front. They did what they are intended to do, that being a shock absorber. After them being installed for about 10k on the car, I started them on 3 as my optimum setting, I kept having to turn it up a notch every month or so, as they became way too soft. I got up to setting 7 at which point the car sold so... That was my experience.
So you would not reccomened them mate????
MudRunnerTD
7th June 2013, 06:18 PM
What are those Rancho RS9000 adjusable shocks like?????
Junk Jonathan. Sorry mate.
How much are you ok to spend mate? that will really determine if you looking for something for a couple of years or longer?
Buy the best that you can with what you have mate. What size lift do you have mate?
Bloodyaussie
7th June 2013, 06:22 PM
I have a budget of about $250-$350 on average...... I sit on a 2inch lift with 1 inch spacers (dont say anything).
MudRunnerTD
7th June 2013, 06:27 PM
YOu should be able to get a pair of good quality units for $350 mate? Call ARB and find out the price on a pair of Nitro charger sports?
in the ARB price list i have here the Nitro Charger Sport are priced at $623 for a set of 4! so go buy just 2 rears.
MudRunnerTD
7th June 2013, 06:29 PM
YOu should be able to get a pair of good quality units for $350 mate? Call ARB and find out the price on a pair of Nitro charger sports?
in the ARB price list i have here the Nitro Charger Sport are priced at $623 for a set of 4! so go buy just 2 rears.
that was for a set of 4 for a GU, for a GQ that same set of 4 will cost you $608
Bloodyaussie
7th June 2013, 06:38 PM
Thanks Daz while I am out working tomorrow I will sneak past ARB thomastown... one of the blokes there looks after me, he was at Tallarook last Sunday and I saw him just before I damaged my rig.
Actually he might charge me more as he told me to stop telling people about Tallarook as he does not want any one going there!!!!
Ben-e-boy
7th June 2013, 06:40 PM
Get some rebuildable shock. Buy them once. If the crap out, put a seal kit through it.
Hodge
7th June 2013, 07:05 PM
So you would not reccomened them mate????
I personally wouldn't buy them again. As I said they were good when they work. But the issue being, they get softer, and having to turn them up on certain intervals, what happens when you get to highest setting?
Hodge
7th June 2013, 07:06 PM
Thanks Daz while I am out working tomorrow I will sneak past ARB thomastown... one of the blokes there looks after me, he was at Tallarook last Sunday and I saw him just before I damaged my rig.
Actually he might charge me more as he told me to stop telling people about Tallarook as he does not want any one going there!!!!
Yep I know who you're talking about lol. I always ask for him in there and deal with him or Ray, nobody else.
Ben-e-boy
7th June 2013, 07:08 PM
I had ranchs on the ute when I bought it. Good travel but the adjusters siezed
growler2058
7th June 2013, 07:39 PM
HOw ABout stay ouTa the mud
MudRunnerTD
7th June 2013, 07:43 PM
Yeah BA !!!! What were you thinking! Someone should knock some sense into you!!
growler2058
7th June 2013, 07:52 PM
Any way you did girls mud! This is real fair dinkum Sth Aussie mud mate
http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z428/GrowlersGQ/FORUM%20MEETUP/P4060692.jpg (http://s1189.photobucket.com/user/GrowlersGQ/media/FORUM%20MEETUP/P4060692.jpg.html)
Even Actarians like this mud ay Kris
http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z428/GrowlersGQ/FORUM%20MEETUP/P4060686.jpg (http://s1189.photobucket.com/user/GrowlersGQ/media/FORUM%20MEETUP/P4060686.jpg.html)
MudRunnerTD
7th June 2013, 08:06 PM
Yeah ya big Girl!!!
Bloodyaussie
7th June 2013, 08:14 PM
Cheers guys got my eyes on something re-buildable....??
Growler is that a chocalate thickshake???
Our mud looks more like cow shit....
growler2058
7th June 2013, 08:19 PM
That's called Loveday
Bloodyaussie
7th June 2013, 08:23 PM
That's called Loveday
What did you say... you wanted a big cuddle??
The way you go on about love day you would think you have already reached the highlight of your life...... all thats left now is beer and chilli!!!
growler2058
7th June 2013, 09:28 PM
What did you say... you wanted a big cuddle??
The way you go on about love day you would think you have already reached the highlight of your life...... all thats left now is beer and chilli!!!
Love every day mannn and peace out
MudRunnerTD
7th June 2013, 09:35 PM
Cheers guys got my eyes on something re-buildable....??..
What are you looking at that's rebuildable in your price range? Rebuildable is nice but if your setup is right then a good quality shock should last beyond 100,000kms without any trouble. Buy junk and your replacing at 20,000kms
taslucas
7th June 2013, 09:45 PM
Any way you did girls mud! This is real fair dinkum Sth Aussie mud mate
http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z428/GrowlersGQ/FORUM%20MEETUP/P4060692.jpg (http://s1189.photobucket.com/user/GrowlersGQ/media/FORUM%20MEETUP/P4060692.jpg.html)
Even Actarians like this mud ay Kris
http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z428/GrowlersGQ/FORUM%20MEETUP/P4060686.jpg (http://s1189.photobucket.com/user/GrowlersGQ/media/FORUM%20MEETUP/P4060686.jpg.html)
must be lame as if a skinny wheeled GUrl got through it.
Hey darren, youre not a fan of the adjustable Ranchos? Is it because they wear out quick or are they just rubbish? I have a sneaky suspicion that those tough dog adjustables are the same shock just rebranded. Is this true? a mate has the tough dogs and they look like a good thing. (we dont do big flex slow rock crawling, more like faster stiff mud ruts and a bit of bouncing)
MudRunnerTD
7th June 2013, 09:56 PM
To be honest Lucas, in the 2" lift range I don't think you really can go past the Old Man Emu for a high quality infinitely variable valving, nitro charged shock that is Australian Made and Australian Owned and Australian Proven.
If I ran a 2" lift it would be OME and the 3" on the GUIV is OME.
growler2058
7th June 2013, 10:01 PM
must be lame as if a skinny wheeled GUrl got through it.
Hey darren, youre not a fan of the adjustable Ranchos? Is it because they wear out quick or are they just rubbish? I have a sneaky suspicion that those tough dog adjustables are the same shock just rebranded. Is this true? a mate has the tough dogs and they look like a good thing. (we dont do big flex slow rock crawling, more like faster stiff mud ruts and a bit of bouncing)
He didn't mate only Agatha conquered
http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z428/GrowlersGQ/Merging%20a%20heap%20of%20pics/P1020611.jpg (http://s1189.photobucket.com/user/GrowlersGQ/media/Merging%20a%20heap%20of%20pics/P1020611.jpg.html)
taslucas
7th June 2013, 10:19 PM
To be honest Lucas, in the 2" lift range I don't think you really can go past the Old Man Emu for a high quality infinitely variable valving, nitro charged shock that is Australian Made and Australian Owned and Australian Proven.
If I ran a 2" lift it would be OME and the 3" on the GUIV is OME.
cheers mate. I do like aussie made.
X 2 ... and as per previous - avoid cheaper and get decent quality and they will outlast crap ones 5 to 1 ...
I'm not a Tough Dog advocate (had Bilsteins and thought they were simply awesome) but the tough dog 45mm 10" and 12" on the truck have proven me a convert after YNOT ran them for 10,000 k's and swapped to my rig and have done another 73,000+ on them - shot now, but I'm not your average "tourer" either, so they've copped a caning an have stood up to it.
Scotty (Bigrig)
My mate has the tough dog 45mm adjustable and they feel good. (and look good when watching the vids)
Cuppa
7th June 2013, 11:10 PM
http://www.exploroz.com/Forum/Topic/29255/Shockies_for_a_GQ_-_Koni_or_Bilsteins.aspx
happygu
8th June 2013, 08:37 AM
must be lame as if a skinny wheeled GUrl got through it.
Hey darren, youre not a fan of the adjustable Ranchos? Is it because they wear out quick or are they just rubbish? I have a sneaky suspicion that those tough dog adjustables are the same shock just rebranded. Is this true? a mate has the tough dogs and they look like a good thing. (we dont do big flex slow rock crawling, more like faster stiff mud ruts and a bit of bouncing)
Lucas,
I have only known one person, out of all the people who swear by the Rancho adjustables, who actually used them off road, and around 10,000Klms he junked them and swore to never use them again.....could have just been unlucky, but it put me off them.
Mic
happygu
8th June 2013, 08:38 AM
I am a huge fan of the Koni Adjustables though, and have run them for years
Mic
Bloodyaussie
8th June 2013, 05:29 PM
Well it seems the vibration is still there... got home from work and decided to fit the other lower control arm as it is also a little bent and realised I stuffed up and put the other one on wrong??? dopey bugger!!!
Went for a drive after that and under real tight left cornering still felt it.... have not had a chance to fit new uni's yet as I got a dodgy one from Repco and took it back today for another so will see when I get a chance but not this weekend as I promised.
The starter motor does not disengage straight away and think there is mud in it?
Fwuck this is pissing me off!!!!!! bloody bog holes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bloodyaussie
9th June 2013, 07:08 PM
Just one a full set of Old man Emu remote reservoir shocks that are rebuildable..... $265 for all 4 !!!!!!!
Frickin wrapped as I have been watching them since Daz and Benny gave me advice, cant wait to get them and fit em up.
The back end at the moment is a bit boat like since stuffing my left rear last weekend?
MudRunnerTD
9th June 2013, 07:12 PM
Just one a full set of Old man Emu remote reservoir shocks that are rebuildable..... $265 for all 4 !!!!!!!
Frickin wrapped as I have been watching them since Daz and Benny gave me advice, cant wait to get them and fit em up.
The back end at the moment is a bit boat like since stuffing my left rear last weekend?
Wow!! Thats Awesome mate! obviously need to be rebuilt straight away? That is $1800 worth of shocks there BA
Got a link to your winning add? pm it to me so i can have a look mate.
Bloodyaussie
9th June 2013, 09:24 PM
Daz I thought for sure it would go up more as there were a few questions asked... the one thing in my favour was his title description was odd ball and even though I thought I had searched all GQ shocks it was only after you told me to look at Old man emu that I spotted them and it was only when I had a closer look at the details I realised they were for a GQ!!!
Irish picked up an engine in almost the same way.... guy did not spell something correctly and Pete got the engine for a bargain price!!!
So I think these sell for about $470 each?? anyone know what seal kits are worth?
MudRunnerTD
9th June 2013, 10:23 PM
Awesome mate! Most of the bargains I have got on eBay have been by people that list them badly.
For him to list them that way he deserves to not get paid for them. Just silly! Who does that!
Yes in the ARB catalogue that are around the $1800 a set so very nice pickup mate. Does he list them as needing a rebuild or he sold the car or something?
Bloodyaussie
10th June 2013, 06:50 PM
Just got the Video from George today where I broke my lower control arm... turn up the volume and hear thew crack!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he_UFTvEzOc
krbrooking
10th June 2013, 08:12 PM
I was there and it still makes my spine tingle. It's the same sound mine made the very first time I took it out after buying it. (Misses was not pleased).
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Bloodyaussie
11th June 2013, 03:35 PM
So the latest update and let this be a lesson to you.....
So my shudder was still there but this morning before heading off to work I changed the oil in the rear lsd and the shudder is gone.
I hope I have not spoken to soon but usually after driving from home to toorak and back home again the shudder would be so bad it would shake the whole car when turning. ..
Lets see how it goes.
threedogs
11th June 2013, 03:38 PM
Thats the sound of $$$$$$$$$$, makes you cringe eh
Bloodyaussie
11th June 2013, 04:53 PM
Yeah it was not the greatest of feelings when it went bang!!!
I was thinking about it today while watching some footage of the Woods Point trip and glad it did not happend during our epic switch back climb... would have been tough going getting out of there.
MEGOMONSTER
11th June 2013, 06:08 PM
Hi jack
How do you get four day old dry mud out from under the car.
It's about 2" thick.
Bloodyaussie
11th June 2013, 06:18 PM
I was under my car with a screwdriver still taking concrete type mud off from the rear diff..... I washed my car on the way home that day it happened and I am so glad I did as this mud was like nothing else.
Hate to think how hard it would have been if I had left it a couple of days.
That car wash place in Broadford has a kickass pressure washer.
krbrooking
11th June 2013, 06:43 PM
It took me nearly 4 1/2 hrs to clean my car from to to bottom and don't think I got everything off.
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Alitis007
11th June 2013, 07:02 PM
It took me 20 mins on the day plus another 5 mins the next to clean underneath the car, you could amost eat off the bloody thing lol then another 30mins to sponge wash and chamois the body. Inside just got a wipe down till i can be bothered detailing it.
Winnie
11th June 2013, 07:11 PM
It took me 20 mins on the day plus another 5 mins the next to clean underneath the car, you could amost eat off the bloody thing lol then another 30mins to sponge wash and chamois the body. Inside just got a wipe down till i can be bothered detailing it.
Would be easy with a hoist! Lmao
If you're happy and you know it tap a post!
Alitis007
11th June 2013, 07:13 PM
Would be easy with a hoist! Lmao
If you're happy and you know it tap a post!
Not when its in the middle of a work shop, i cleaned under it at the car wash so i didn't need to clean up afterwards lol
Bloodyaussie
12th June 2013, 06:27 PM
About to head off soon to pick up my shocks, hope they are everything they are meant to be?
I will post up pics when I get them... Long drive tonight and a couple of stops on the way.
Irish
12th June 2013, 08:16 PM
About to head off soon to pick up my shocks, hope they are everything they are meant to be?
I will post up pics when I get them... Long drive tonight and a couple of stops on the way.
Thats your thimble sized bladder...
Still no sign of your locker either, re-fricking-diculous. They must be carving it from a larger locker by hand or something..
Will give em a ring tomorrow for a WTF?!
Bloodyaussie
19th June 2013, 08:10 AM
Thought I would up date where I am at as far as fixing all the bloody issues go?
The alternator has started to get noisy again and I think maybe the bearing in it is shot but it is the temporary one as I took my 120amp one out a few months ago to do repairs to it... so it looks like I have to get off my butt and put the big one back in.
The starter motor got swapped out last week as it would not throw out properly or go back in quick enough.... it will get pulled apart and cleaned and kept as a spare.
The uni's have been changed and the diff oil and while I was under the car fitting my awesome shocks I noticed the breather was not attached? it really pays to do these checks before going away and not after when the horse has already bolted!!
So I think I am going to drop the oil I only put in the other day and put some more new oil in the LSD just to make sure... for the sake of 2lt's of oil it's cheap insurance.
I still have no central locking and have not had a chance to check some things but still ordered a new unit anyway? the box was under the water line that controls the locking.
Still have little niggling things but overall a massive improvement on how it was a few weeks ago but it has been a costly exercise$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
If I am to do this trip next year I want to treat my car with some respect and get it up to a standard that I will feel comfortable with doing such a long journey?
I think I will also change my gearbox oils and I have a breather kit sitting here I think I will finally fit the bloody thing?? fun fun fun!!
Sir Roofy
19th June 2013, 08:28 AM
Good to see you thinking of making the effort mate no joy in fixing
things for the sake of a mud puddle when you can go around it
thats for the young bucks
Bloodyaussie
24th June 2013, 09:44 PM
Replaced the control box but still no joy and as I had locked my keys in the car while testing George came round and broke in for me and said it sounded like the door actuator in the drivers door...
The control box was rooted and did need replacing anyway and only cost $10 and the door actuator cost another $12 and all fixed... I now have central locking again.
There are some other issues I am still stuffing with and hope to have them sorted soon when I take my holidays.
The fricking locker has still not turned up... more than 6 weeks now??
mudski
24th June 2013, 10:20 PM
The fricking locker has still not turned up... more than 6 weeks now??
Seriously I would be shouting at them by now. Your too patient.
Alitis007
24th June 2013, 10:52 PM
I can see why so many Q's get stolen, it only took me 1 min to break in and i was being a PITA talking trash while doing it lol
Jonathan where do they "Make" them ?? We should go down there and show them how " happy " you are to wait for the locker to turn up.........
Bloodyaussie
24th June 2013, 11:26 PM
South Australia. .... says it all hey? :)
I will ring tomorrow and let them know it is no way to do business. .
If any part of the process is made overseas are they supposed to divulge if I ask?
happygu
25th June 2013, 12:24 AM
I can see why so many Q's get stolen, it only took me 1 min to break in and i was being a PITA talking trash while doing it lol
Jonathan where do they "Make" them ?? We should go down there and show them how " happy " you are to wait for the locker to turn up.........
Time for that hidden killswitch ...... that will fix everyone.
Alitis007
25th June 2013, 12:29 AM
South Australia. .... says it all hey? :)
I will ring tomorrow and let them know it is no way to do business. .
If any part of the process is made overseas are they supposed to divulge if I ask?
Feel like going for a drive?? Lol i can get us there pretty fast hahaha
krbrooking
25th June 2013, 03:29 AM
That's shocking man!! I hope you get the locker soon and get all those niggling little probs sorted.
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Bloodyaussie
25th June 2013, 08:19 AM
Time for that hidden killswitch ...... that will fix everyone.
I have a GPS tracker and can shut my car off and locate it if needed..
All these type cars are easy to get into.. a screwdriver and a hammer and you could be in the car in 10 seconds but even Georges method if you were not bothered about any damage you could be in nearly as quick.
The Japs had no problem with car theft in Japan so it was low on there needs when building a car so most from the mid 90's and before are a doddle to get into.
Bloodyaussie
11th July 2013, 09:44 AM
I decided to replace my carpet in the end as it was not right snd you should have seen the mud???
And no Darren I did not paint with that stuff to deaden the sound... bugger! !
31580
31581
Had to hose out everything and found out why it filled up so quickly. .. 3 large plugs were missing??
BigRAWesty
11th July 2013, 10:12 AM
So you going carpet again?
trying to use MC crappa
Bloodyaussie
11th July 2013, 10:12 AM
All done... new underlay and carpet.
BigRAWesty
11th July 2013, 03:01 PM
Nice.. standard underlay or something else?
I'm looking at new underlay and some sorta sound proofing, but dynamat, as good as it may be if ducking expensive..
trying to use MC crappa
Bloodyaussie
11th July 2013, 04:47 PM
Nah nothing special just standard underlay but all seems good and I am happy there is no musky smell... there always was a slight wiff of something from when I bought the car and now all gone.
It was good to have a good look at it all to and the body looks to be in very good condition so happy.
I left the carpet out of the very back under the rear draws as I found it to be unnecessary and did not want the chance of wet carpet soaking into my draws.... ??? that sounds wrong??
Winnie
11th July 2013, 05:04 PM
When I build my drawers I wanna gut the interior like you have. Makes running cables so much easier and is a much better job. Need a daily car to do that though!
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AB
11th July 2013, 06:35 PM
I decided to replace my carpet in the end as it was not right snd you should have seen the mud???
And no Darren I did not paint with that stuff to deaden the sound... bugger! !
31580
31581
Had to hose out everything and found out why it filled up so quickly. .. 3 large plugs were missing??
Hence why I'm trying my hardest to avoid those holes. It's very hard to avoid them though when you see them...lol..
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93patrol
11th July 2013, 11:39 PM
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Bloodyaussie
11th July 2013, 11:46 PM
Ok then.......?
Starting to really worry about you lot!!!!
Sir Roofy
11th July 2013, 11:51 PM
hence why i'm trying my hardest to avoid those holes. It's very hard to avoid them though when you see them...lol..
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its adictive these mud puddles nearly as bad as giveing up the cigs
trying to stay out of them
NP99
11th July 2013, 11:54 PM
Nice.. standard underlay or something else?
I'm looking at new underlay and some sorta sound proofing, but dynamat, as good as it may be if ducking expensive..
trying to use MC crappa
Try this mate....
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Sound-Deadening-Underlay-OFFCUT-suits-replacement-moulded-car-carpet-fitting-/130935114450?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e7c574ad2
BigRAWesty
12th July 2013, 12:42 AM
That's the shit.. good find..
trying to use MC crappa
krbrooking
12th July 2013, 03:11 AM
Hence why I'm trying my hardest to avoid those holes. It's very hard to avoid them though when you see them...lol..
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You may as well just leave the carpet out as we all know you are going to dive into the same bog hole head first.
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TPC
12th July 2013, 07:51 AM
Hence why I'm trying my hardest to avoid those holes. It's very hard to avoid them though when you see them...lol..
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its adictive these mud puddles nearly as bad as giveing up the cigs
trying to stay out of them
You may as well just leave the carpet out as we all know you are going to dive into the same bog hole head first.
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Its all peer group pressure, i have been saying for years i will leave the mud puddles alone then i see one or two of my mates drive in and i just cant help it.
cgm
12th July 2013, 08:54 AM
Its all peer group pressure, i have been saying for years i will leave the mud puddles alone then i see one or two of my mates drive in and i just cant help it.
With the "peers" it's not just them sucking you in to follow (most of us can make those clever decisions on our own) it's the fact they never let you forget ... For your own benefit of course. :-)
I have a similar recent event I need to post. Been too busy, but hopefully tomorrow. Similar outcome - total interior strip, pressure washer on the seats and carpet, etc., about 25 hours of work all up I reckon. Got lucky and didn't lose too much from $$ point of view - 2 way radio was the most expensive loss. Got a public lashing for my crimes - with photos both on facebook and our club meeting.
But you gotta admit - it's fun at the time. ;)
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Bloodyaussie
15th July 2013, 01:25 PM
So I have been getting more vibration in the rear and was told to keep replacing the diff oil until it comes good (about 4 times) so far I have changed it twice.
Now i did go out another time a couple of weeks ago collecting wood and went through a pretty deep hole and yesterday after getting back from my muddy play I was doing squeechies when turning tight corners..
So I got told to get an additive from Penrite and put new oil in and when I dropped the oil out it was putrid.... it was then I noticed the diff breather had come off again???
It seems I dont have enough length and when flexing I am pulling the hose off and then sucking all the water and mud in, now I have had a new breather kit sitting around for a year now and finally fitted the rear one and will do the front when I do the locker.
Fun and games?????
The I could not be bothered attitude really does not pay in the long run with the amount of stuffing around I have had to do.. if I had fitted the breather kit last year I think none of this problem would have happened.
cgm
15th July 2013, 04:37 PM
The I could not be bothered attitude really does not pay in the long run with the amount of stuffing around I have had to do..
That is so true, problem is there always seems to be too many things to do, so you'll just "do this one later". But, have pay in the long run.
boots
15th July 2013, 04:43 PM
Fun and games ????? Nah , complete and utter greef mate . feel your pain on this one .
Rustyboner81
18th July 2013, 04:26 PM
Same here. 1 big bog hole = 1 new clutch. Dont mind mud clays and puddles. Epic bog holes...... no thanks
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