Gu chop

[healy]

I've got a rusted out rear quarter was just gonna chop quarters but now thinking of doing a dual cab conversion with a full respray can't seem to find any ideas/pics on here and actually havnt seen the gu dualcab conversion done help tips ideas at doing it would be appreciated

[BigRAWesty]

Wowser, that's stuffed.. your taking 2 totally extremely different mods though..
1/4 cut is a few hundred, cab cut is thousands...
Choose your lines and 1/4 cut I'd say, repair what is left after the cut..

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
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[threedogs]

Trying to find pic of dual cab I nearly bought, hang on
Nah not gunna happen will do tomorrow

[happygu]

Could just cut out the rusty spots, weld in some new material, bog it up, and throw a coat of paint over it.

Doesn't even have to be perfect as you won't see it

Mic

[MudRunnerTD]

Install an electronic anti rust system onto your car Healy. If it was a mine car then this could be the start mate.

Not a f an of a dual cab cut down especially with a family. You will cut the cuts free capsule off the back and stack all your sh1t out side on the tray! Just don't get it.

Been out and played real hard with guys driving countdowns. All my stuff is mud free, their swag is muddy, their fridge is muddy, their Stuff is wet and Muddy!!

[MudRunnerTD]

Type "google images" into google

Type "GU dualcab" and there are pages and pages of quality pics

http://images.google.com.au/search?site=&tbm=isch&source=hp&q=gu+dualcab&oq=gu+dualcab&gs_l=img.3...2043.7060.0.9217.14.9.2.3.3.0.288.168 5.3j0j6.9.0...0.0...1ac.1.14.img.072SCVNL3uQ&biw=1024&bih=644&sei=MbmlUcTuL4zOlAXSw4HACQ

[NP99]

Wowser, that's stuffed.. your taking 2 totally extremely different mods though..
1/4 cut is a few hundred, cab cut is thousands...
Choose your lines and 1/4 cut I'd say, repair what is left after the cut..

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)

X2 don't chase bad money with good money!

[Bloodyaussie]

Install an electronic anti rust system onto your car Healy. If it was a mine car then this could be the start mate.

Not a f an of a dual cab cut down especially with a family. You will cut the cuts free capsule off the back and stack all your sh1t out side on the tray! Just don't get it.

Been out and played real hard with guys driving countdowns. All my stuff is mud free, their swag is muddy, their fridge is muddy, their Stuff is wet and Muddy!!

Yeah only a real bozo would go for that chop unless they are a pig hunter...... Growler are you a pig hunter??? he he!!

[growler2058]

Yeah only a real bozo would go for that chop unless they are a pig hunter...... Growler are you a pig hunter??? he he!!

I've done a few pigs mate ;)


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[growler2058]

Besides I goin king cab and have an idea if boxes etc to keep my sh1t dry


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[MudRunnerTD]

Hey Growls I have a mate that is 3/4 through a king cab cut. It has been signed off by the Engineer and is nearly ready for paint. He has done a good looking tube tray and it will look great. He is 2 years down and is likely6month away still.

[growler2058]

Hey Growls I have a mate that is 3/4 through a king cab cut. It has been signed off by the Engineer and is nearly ready for paint. He has done a good looking tube tray and it will look great. He is 2 years down and is likely6month away still.

I'm thinking bout the same time frame Daz
Don't spouse he's done a DIY thread anywhere with heaps of pics???


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[Bloodyaussie]

I'm thinking bout the same time frame Daz
Don't spouse he's done a DIY thread anywhere with heaps of pics???


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What are you going to do for fun in the meantime mate??? you will go mad... there are only so many chilis you can eat?

[healy]

So I'm just gonna do quarter chop and hopefully it will turn out something like this by the end of the weekend

[growler2058]

What are you going to do for fun in the meantime mate??? you will go mad... there are only so many chilis you can eat?

Wife's Prado has a lift and MTZ's ill be able to practice recoveries ;)

Edit: well being recovered

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[MudRunnerTD]

I'm thinking bout the same time frame Daz
Don't spouse he's done a DIY thread anywhere with heaps of pics???


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No sorry mate he does not get on forums, if I get a chance I will see if he has some pics and get them to you mate.

[healy]

About to start the quarter chop

[growler2058]

I wouldn't
I'd go the rust repair
Don't cut the rear light wiring


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[healy]

Won't be any good if I just repair it as its gone all the way through chop is what it needs

[Alitis007]

Whats a body worth ?? I rekon save your money healy and switch a new cab and you can enjoy the car to the fullest in the mean time mate ???

[Winnie]

Best way would probably be to buy a detonated zd30

If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

[Sir Roofy]

whats a body worth ?? I rekon save your money healy and switch a new cab and you can enjoy the car to the fullest in the mean time mate ???

like your thinking george but will be interesting what healy comes up with

[healy]

It's a prick to cut but will be easy to seal up when done I'm half way through left hand side just following the barn door and light I'm turning dummy lights into working ones aswell it's the best solution for now as my bar was all trashed and barely connected also

[healy]

So that's the left basically cut just gotta clean it up abit started the right there is no wires to move on either side as there in a high enough spot and fuel lines don't get in the way either ill do a rite up one day I am taking photos my departure angle is gonna be great after this

[healy]

Whats a body worth ?? I rekon save your money healy and switch a new cab and you can enjoy the car to the fullest in the mean time mate ???

It's only cost me $70 to get what I need to do the job I've got all the tools already to do the job

[Alitis007]

Actually healy i think your a bit off with your cost of the job, personally IMO i rekon it will cost more around the $500 mark if not more, i could be wrong tho. First up the cut and shut, thats easy you get some flat sheet say 2mm thick maybe some off cuts from a sheet metal place and you weld it in, seam seal it and paint it. Your after market tail light will cost you say $100 a pair your wire them in BUT. Coz you got rid of the lights on the bumper your spare tyre now will live on the roof basket unless you want a defect. You still need to give it some form of protection so you make quarter bars, not with 2mm exhaust pipe coz its pretty much useless if it takes a strike but out of some 4mm steam pipe and some 4mm flat plate, say you want a double tube like your pic you'll need atleast 4 elbows say at $30 each the some straight pipe probably at around $30 a meter and just to be safe you get 3 meters and that will need to be painted or powder coated so another $50. You'll also need to make mudflaps so you dont get pinged for that aswell, say that cost you $20 for the pair.

Just from my rough guessing of prices i just cost you $380 assuming you can get the 2mm and 4mm flat plates for nothing and you don't get a bigger roof basket.

I said to do a body swap coz the simple fact of the matter is, eventually more rust is going to pop up and i was looking at the bigger picture or you could say my own logic. I'm not trying to knock you mate, i rekon thats a top effort having a crack at some serious body mods and good on you for having a go and i'm just saying to look at the long term and not the simple fix now....

[growler2058]

Too late now the cuts begun ^^^


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[Alitis007]

Yeh i know growler, i was just pointing out other expenses plus he can always change the cab later on down the track if he has to.

[healy]

Actually it's gonna cost me the $100 mark as I have a pipe bender and steel already in the garage welder also in garage I've got it all sitting in my garage it's gonna cost $100 out of my pocket so as I said $100

[Winnie]

Add another $40 on for beers.


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[BigRAWesty]

So that's the left basically cut just gotta clean it up abit started the right there is no wires to move on either side as there in a high enough spot and fuel lines don't get in the way either ill do a rite up one day I am taking photos my departure angle is gonna be great after this

I can't quite make out that pic, but well done for having a crack..

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
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[Alitis007]

Actually it's gonna cost me the $100 mark as I have a pipe bender and steel already in the garage welder also in garage I've got it all sitting in my garage it's gonna cost $100 out of my pocket so as I said $100

Thats allright mate, i don't know what you have at home but how thick is the pipe?? Have you tried to bend 4mm tube before?? Lets just say its fun with a manual bender unless you have a pneumatic.....

[AB]

More pics Healy?

[healy]

Yeah I'm not looking forward to bending it I'm gonna bolt bender to the slab Ill get some more pice up soon havnt touched it this morning AB

[healy]

Add another $40 on for beers.


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Your on it ok so I've missed quoted the job add $39 for beer lol yes it's vb

[growler2058]

Your on it ok so I've missed quoted the job add $39 for beer lol yes it's vb

Sicko!!!!!

[BigRAWesty]

Your on it ok so I've missed quoted the job add $39 for beer lol yes it's vb

That's officially ruined this build...

Kallen Westbrook
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[healy]

Left side again looking up nearly ready for the plate to be put in gonna give the inner guards a clean first

[Bloodyaussie]

You welding it yourself?

I am crap at welding such thin plate steel....

[healy]

Yeah doing it all myself with the help of vb to calm the nerves

[healy]

A few more photos of the work so far have removed all the rust there was a lot and about 4kg of dirt in each guard

[healy]

So my chassis rail is completely stuffed including everywhere the tow set up connects from what I can see is it needs the last 600mm of chassis chopped so I'm now at a hault just doing a big clean to have a look

[healy]

Some of the F'D bits

[growler2058]

F@rk!!!!.....

[healy]

That's a nicer way of putting it

[Ben-e-boy]

I am now 100% convinced that you wagon has spent a fair chunk of its life in a coal. the only times I have seen rust like that in a GU was ex coal.

[healy]

It unfortunately just keeps going all the way through

[growler2058]

F@rk!!!!.....
I'll say it again


That's a nicer way of putting it



It unfortunately just keeps going all the way through
And again F@RK (F@RK) X3

[mudnut]

Someone must've been using this rig as a towing vehicle for boats, and has dunked the rear end in the drink a lot, and never washed it. what welder will you be using, Healy?

[healy]

Someone must've been using this rig as a towing vehicle for boats, and has dunked the rear end in the drink a lot, and never washed it. what welder will you be using, Healy?

I can't repair this the whole chassis from back to the middle row seats is ruined both sides and I've been towing on it (6x4) and the bolts well let's just say I'm surprised the car is in one piece

[mudnut]

That sucks, mate. A visit to the wreckers for another chassis.

[NP99]

That sucks, mate. A visit to the wreckers for another chassis.

Or complete rig and build one good one from two???

[healy]

When I win the lottery

[healy]

I'm thinking getting some 3 meter lengths of steel plate if possible and weld them in place not sure it's making it hard to think at the moment

[BigRAWesty]

Dam mate. Its never ending.. I'm guessing its a beach rig with no care taken.. see it all they time down here, the Cray divers back the cars in to the tray, and keep using unit the leave the boat behind one day, and go buy a new one...

Maybe strip as a wrecking vehicle, use what you want, sell the rest and get a new bus. But if work and a bit if time with no 4by, but you know what you want in a car now (gu cut down) so you can buy what you want..

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
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[healy]

Dam mate. Its never ending.. I'm guessing its a beach rig with no care taken.. see it all they time down here, the Cray divers back the cars in to the tray, and keep using unit the leave the boat behind one day, and go buy a new one...

Maybe strip as a wrecking vehicle, use what you want, sell the rest and get a new bus. But if work and a bit if time with no 4by, but you know what you want in a car now (gu cut down) so you can buy what you want..

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
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I wish I could mate but its our main car and can't afford to wreck it or have it off the road for more than a couple of days at a time

[NP99]

How's the front end of the chassis?

[healy]

How's the front end of the chassis?

Fronts ok it's from second row seats and back one little hit and I think it will crack I can only laugh at the moment as I have to fix it myself and I'm not the best person to be doing this $hit I can only hope I get T boned such Abigail F up on my behalf won't be letting the family get into this anymore

[happygu]

Healy,

Did you buy it with a RWC? Cause that ain't roadworthy as it is

A bit of a tough repair, but there are guys that can fix stuff like this and plenty of other people have had chassis repairs done from torn, cracked or broken rails.

You would have to cut, insert a sleeve or fishplates, and reweld a good rear end. Not sure how that will go legally though, as i don't think they allow cut and shuts anymore.

[healy]

Healy,

Did you buy it with a RWC? Cause that ain't roadworthy as it is

A bit of a tough repair, but there are guys that can fix stuff like this and plenty of other people have had chassis repairs done from torn, cracked or broken rails.

You would have to cut, insert a sleeve or fishplates, and reweld a good rear end. Not sure how that will go legally though, as i don't think they allow cut and shuts anymore.
Yeah cut and shuts are illegal but to be honest that's my only choice not a fan of doing it but its gotta be done can't afford to have 20k go down the sink

[nissannewby]

What about your insurance? Is there nothing in there that can cover you.

[4 by 4]

I feel your pain mate, I've read a lot about your unfortunate luck with this rig, it just keeps getting worse doesn't it? Hopefully someone steals it and writes it off for you. :clapping:

[healy]

I feel your pain mate, I've read a lot about your unfortunate luck with this rig, it just keeps getting worse doesn't it? Hopefully someone steals it and writes it off for you. :clapping:

I wouldn't be that lucky they only steal the neat good ones that you don't want stolen

[healy]

What about your insurance? Is there nothing in there that can cover you.

I'm not sure something to look into thanks

[NP99]

Yeah cut and shuts are illegal but to be honest that's my only choice not a fan of doing it but its gotta be done can't afford to have 20k go down the sink

The cut and shut may void insurances!!!

[healy]

The cut and shut may void insurances!!!

It will no doubt about it. Ill look into what newby suggested but I'm guessing they won't cover it which will mean cut and shut and no more paying insurance and always have it garaged unless I'm sitting in it

[nissannewby]

The amount of work required to cut and shut it correctly is huge. You would need to cut well past where the rust stops and then go from there, would prob be a body off job. Can you look into a rolling chassis at all? These can go relatively cheap ( no diff centers just chassis with wheels. Then swap it all over.

[healy]

The amount of work required to cut and shut it correctly is huge. You would need to cut well past where the rust stops and then go from there, would prob be a body off job. Can you look into a rolling chassis at all? These can go relatively cheap ( no diff centers just chassis with wheels. Then swap it all over.

I think it's to big of a job (for me) but ill have a hunt around can't hurt making some calls. I gotta work something out lol I'm putting it back together in the morning then off to some panel shops see what they can suggest hopefully some better news than what I can imagine but it is damn ugly

[MudRunnerTD]

Bloody hell Healy!!! That is Farrkked mate!

Give a couple of wreckers a call mate ans see about a chassis. You might be surprised.

I will make a call for you tomorrow mate but can't promise anything. Full chassis swap would really be the only viable solution there.

Or buy another and strip the car mate. I know you can't afford that mate but I am not sure you have a choice. This will be Never Ending and will suck the life and cash out of you mate.

You need to have a bloody good think about moving forward any further with this car Healy. Seriously consider how much money you will throw at this car bud. I know this is to what you want to hear bud. DAMN!!

[MudRunnerTD]

Quick quick quick

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/99-GU-Nissan-Patrol-ST-Burnt-in-Front-/271211229903?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f2572f2cf&_uhb=1


45 minutes to go. Perfect! Buy that in a heart beat

[MudRunnerTD]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NISSAN-PATROL-2001-GU-III-/151056274504?pt=AU_Trucks_Commercial_Vehicles&hash=item232ba7d448&_uhb=1

[trekster]

I've done a few pigs mate ;)

Keep your bedroom stories to yourself :P Better still store them with all your supposed "chilli" stories :P :P :P :P


On topic, I saw one drive past me on the road once and I was like f*** me that looks like sh*t. So not a fan.

[NP99]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NISSAN-PATROL-2001-GU-III-/151056274504?pt=AU_Trucks_Commercial_Vehicles&hash=item232ba7d448&_uhb=1

$10k was a good buy!

[patrolmq]

I've got a rusted out rear quarter was just gonna chop quarters but now thinking of doing a dual cab conversion with a full respray can't seem to find any ideas/pics on here and actually havnt seen the gu dualcab conversion done help tips ideas at doing it would be appreciated


That's pretty bad for a GU, how did it get like that? I just took off the trim of my 1981 MQ to spray fish oil in and the rear quarters were good, apart from 32 years of dust and spider webs! I thought the GU would be galvanised.

Regarding your chop, I've not seen one on a GU either, personally I'd just fix the holes. I'm guessing you'd need a chop to be engineered.

Sorry, I just read the rest of the thread, looks like it's had a pretty hard life off road. Amazing how quickly it can kill a car, hope you manage to get it sorted.

[healy]

So Ive just put car back together wouldn't really no it's been chopped rear bar covers it not gonna bother with welding panels on holes as I'm gonna look for a new car with blown engine etc will take along time to get the funds up but at least I can still drive it just not gonna let anybody else get in as I would hate for the car to injure anybody cheers for the advice guys

[NP99]

Take it into Melbourne where the GQs are being knocked off.

[healy]

Take it into Melbourne where the GQs are being knocked off.

Yeah I'm not fussed where I park it anymore but knowing my luck the ba$tard$ won't steal it its all good ill sort it out hopefully by the end of year till then hope it holds up hate for it to snap out whilst driving

[healy]

So I might be able to get a body and chassis just waiting on a mate to call back its only 20 mins from home aswell depending on condition and price. Is there anything differences between chassis other than engine mounts?

[healy]

And I also noticed today my rear right hand spring has collapsed from what I can see it is due to the left hand side chassis rails I'm so glad I didn't go out last weekend new rear spring and shocks are on there way thanks to a couple of fibs and warranty

[happygu]

Healy,

It is hard to see from the pics, but it may be just that you need an adjustable Panhard bar to recentralize the diff.

Springs and shocks look to be ok.... don't spend anything on it till you get someone else to confirm.

Mic

[MudRunnerTD]

Wow that spring should definitely not be touching that shock casing?? Strange. I don't think a panard would solve that. Have you got a pic from further away? Regardless your going to Get a warranty on it as you should.

Glad you chasing another car Healy, cut your losses mate. A lesson learned I'm sure.

I recommend that that car has no business in the bush in 4wd in that condition mate, sorry bud. Really really FARKED!!

[happygu]

Wow that spring should definitely not be touching that shock casing?? Strange. I don't think a panard would solve that. Have you got a pic from further away? Regardless your going to Get a warranty on it as you should.

Glad you chasing another car Healy, cut your losses mate. A lesson learned I'm sure.

I recommend that that car has no business in the bush in 4wd in that condition mate, sorry bud. Really really FARKED!!


On another look at the pics, it may be just that the Spring lift is too much for the standard control arms.

My brother in Laws was doing the same with 5" lift on standard arms.

Mic

[nissannewby]

On another look at the pics, it may be just that the Spring lift is too much for the standard control arms.

My brother in Laws was doing the same with 5" lift on standard arms.

Mic

This happens on the larger lifts due the diff rolling as it is pushed down. It shouldn't happen on a 2" lift. I think this car has had it and the right decision has been made.

Keep this one though Healy. We all know the drive train is spot on :).

[healy]

Yeah mate everything mechanical on this is all good everything has been rebuilt or changed over the engine is now spot on. Nah it's not a panhard job it's the chassis is twisted I'm still waiting on a reply for this other one

[healy]

Nah no photo it's hard because the bend isn't side to side it's front to back I couldn't get a good pic

[benno77gu]

hi healy I might be able to help you out with a gu chassis

[Bloodyaussie]

hi healy I might be able to help you out with a gu chassis

Must be all people named Ben are good blokes hey!!!!

[healy]

hi healy I might be able to help you out with a gu chassis
Sent ya a pm but what's the go with it?

[benno77gu]

sent one back