Rtc steering

[threedogs]

Heres a pic of spring from guy up the roads RTC steering dampner.
Steel has just gone weird, its a well known brand, so I'll take it back on his behalf and see what they say, could have been a crook batch, so no point naming anyone. IMO

[MudRunnerTD]

WOW!!

Thats Spring Steel! imagine a set of Coils did that!

[taslucas]

Geez that's knackered! How long has it been on the vehicle?

[threedogs]

Not even one year, IMO from my limited blacksmithing it looks like
the steel wasn't hot enough before being worked. it looks cyrstallized.
We'll see what the shop has to say, if others did the same then
maybe a few slipped through the cracks . Showed it to Billy bleed as he came around
his opinion was the same,"weird"

[twase]

Never seen springs made from wood before.

[twase]

WOW!!

Thats Spring Steel! imagine a set of Coils did that!the young commodore drivers would pay big money for self lowering springs like that.

[threedogs]

I'll put it together and take a pic.
Nah still looks weird like string or rope

[Bloodyaussie]

Nah I say wood also.......

[BigRAWesty]

Not even one year, IMO from my limited blacksmithing it looks like
the steel wasn't hot enough before being worked. it looks cyrstallized.
We'll see what the shop has to say, if others did the same then
maybe a few slipped through the cracks . Showed it to Billy bleed as he came around
his opinion was the same,"weird"

Cheap Chinese crap.. your nearly right 3D. Its a fault right back in the extrusion stages. Impurities in the steel don't melt and you get delimitation. I only know this as I've seen it first and with sheet metal and flat bar. I've gone to cut the plate and when its hit the floor it splits down the middle..
I'd hate to know how many jobs out there are help together with delimited steel..

Not cool though.. thus why we buy aus quality 3D..

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)

[BigRAWesty]

the young commodore drivers would pay big money for self lowering springs like that.

Buy standard springs... NEK MINUTE...

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)

[threedogs]

Thanks Kallen thought it was in process as I heated some steel befoe I got my forge in a potbelly
Didnt get it hot enough and after a few hits on the Anvil the steel split. Not going to name shop
But I would say Chinese CR$P from what I know, so now just get another cheap replacement or money back.
But it does alert ppl to the lower end of the market and the Shite they expect us to put up with.
LESSON HERE FOR ALL

[BigRAWesty]

Amen

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)

[Morton]

expect to see a whole lot more of it, we are now being flooded with cheap chinese knockoffs & stuff for the average punter who wouldnt know the difference, just believing the hipe from some mobs, worse still is some media outlets are flogging inferior stuff cheap but branding it as quality. it the last 8 weeks I have been out to play 6 times & on 3 occassions I have come across a failed part on a vehicle from one of the biggest of these non quality suppliers, the worse being a rockslider that slid into the rear wheel on a rock climb, had to skulldrag him over, deflat the tyre to back off the pressure, unbolt the "rockslider", I took one look at it once it was out & thought "sidestep", this is the second one in 4 weeks now, same brand, if it wasnt for experienced guys there it was a major safety issue, snatch & winch wasnt a safe option due to time

[mudski]

I say name the brand atleast. Then atleast buyers get a better warning.

[Ben-e-boy]

Yep I want to know the brand. I want to bag Chinese 4wd products while I'm wearing my Chinese made clothes, sitting on a Chinese made chair playing on an IPad with Chinese components. Throwing Chinese made stones into Chinese glass houses

[Winnie]

that's lacist

[Dhuck]

Had a bloke in a landcrab come into work the other day asking what the noise was in the front of his car. first look we found a broken right front spring. The first time I have seen a very reputable Australian made spring break the way it did.

[Clunk]

Yep I want to know the brand. I want to bag Chinese 4wd products while I'm wearing my Chinese made clothes, sitting on a Chinese made chair playing on an IPad with Chinese components. Throwing Chinese made stones into Chinese glass houses

Yep me too, apart from the iPad...... Coz they are really sub standard lmfao

Don't slap it, tap it!!!!

[taslucas]

that's lacist

your drunk

[Ben-e-boy]

Yep me too, apart from the iPad...... Coz they are really sub standard lmfao

Don't slap it, tap it!!!!

I can't complain mate. It's standard work issue lol

[Ben-e-boy]

your drunk


And how.....

[NP99]

"Cheap Chinese crap" ...

Really?? Weren't you bringing in Chinese made winches a month or so ago till "someone" on the forum helped you and steered you clear of dealing with the specific company you were dealing with?? Same person gave you all the information, told you how to respond to the forum to protect your reputation (which you followed to the letter), and then you have the audacity to jump onto this???

Seriously??? Not a fan of people 'playing' both sides to suit their own needs ..

To quote you "not cool" ...


Scotty (Bigrig)

I thought it failed due to hidden taxes or the like.... Is there more to the story?

[NP99]

Heres a pic of spring from guy up the roads RTC steering dampner.
Steel has just gone weird, its a well known brand, so I'll take it back on his behalf and see what they say, could have been a crook batch, so no point naming anyone. IMO

Lets hope they have a recall. Name the brand so others can avoid or at least take it back for examination/warranty etc!

[Ben-e-boy]

I was going to be on the receiving end of these winches, what else is going on.

[Swampy]

Had a bloke in a landcrab come into work the other day asking what the noise was in the front of his car. first look we found a broken right front spring. The first time I have seen a very reputable Australian made spring break the way it did.

You are on the money Dhuck, everyone's going on about Chinese "shit", it's not the country putting out shit, it's small company's, australian, american, indian and chinesetrying to make a quick buck, and don't get me wrong there are some small company's out there building stuff of a very high quality, it still pisses me off that people keep going on about the Chinese build quality.
It's fact that NASA source most of there components from china because they have a very stringent quality and building process.
Just about everything you buy is made in china and you have one thing break and it's those damn Chinese and their build quality or shit materials.
Give it a break people

[AB]

Ill say it one more time. There's china and there is china.

The quality and powder coating from our products in the playground industry from china shit all over the Australian market unfortunately folks and I'm being serious. I took some posts to a powder coating company last week and they couldn't match the quality.

If you care about the products you sell then you will sell quality gear but unfortunately some people just want an easy buck.

[mudski]

Ill say it one more time. There's china and there is china.


Couldn't agree more. Just because it comes from there it automatically gets the cheapchit tag. Much like a Tojo! There just chit, they ain't cheap.

[NP99]

Are Chinese Hookers cheap?

[Clunk]

Are Chinese Hookers cheap?

Depends on which way they bend

Don't slap it, tap it!!!!

[Parksy]

Are Chinese Hookers cheap?

Might not get what you're paying for...

[twase]

Might not get what you're paying for...

Or more...

[threedogs]

Up Date. The seller said it had been abused off road, I know the 4x4 it came off,80s it doesn't even have mud tyres
The driver is new to offroading and other than coming to the murray has been no where as far as i know. Anyway taking it back to the shop
this morning to see what Manager says after he pyshically see it. Its in 3 pieces, anyone one here heard of a spring on a RTC damper failing
in a catastropic way like o post, Anyone?? Will get brand name, all I know ATM is shop that sold it.

This is not about Cheap Chinese stuff all it is about is one product failing, I dont even know if its made in china, some here may look silly if not.
something about counting chickens

[my third 256]

at the end of ww2 we all used to go on about cheep japanese junk
my how things have changed
we all drive one of theirs now
so what will happen in20 years another forum with a 4x4 cnocking something made in ???????????????????

[taslucas]

The seller cant honestly say it was abused off road can they? I'm no metalurgist but it looks to me that the steel is very poor quality (where ever it's from).
On another note, how can a steering dampener be abused? Maybe get smashed on a rock or something but apart from that what do ya do? Steer left and right too much?

[Dhuck]

Something that a lot of people have forgot is that there vehicles consist of Chinese, Taiwanese, Korean and other Asian made components. These Asian countries actually have some of the best quality control. It is the labor that is cheap. This does not make the product crap.


Posted using a computer made of components from China.

[Yendor]

Might not get what you're paying for...

Could have the wrong bits...

[04OFF]

at the end of ww2 we all used to go on about cheep japanese junk
my how things have changed
we all drive one of theirs now
so what will happen in20 years another forum with a 4x4 cnocking something made in ???????????????????


Yep agree my third, "Jap crap" was the term often used !

People/Humans in general, seem very quick to jump on the "band wagon" of hate, all because it seems everyone else is jumping on, and its oh so easy to join in, even if they themselves have no experience or first hand information to go on.

[taslucas]

Yep agree my third, "Jap crap" was the term often used !

People/Humans in general, seem very quick to jump on the "band wagon" of hate, all because it seems everyone else is jumping on, and its oh so easy to join in, even if they themselves have no experience or first hand information to go on.

But Jap crap just rhymes so well!

[threedogs]

Well the seller does not matter but this is a "TOUGH DOG " RTC steering damper,
IMO no way breathing was this broken because of "DRIVER ERROR",The spring
looks like rope or string , If anyone here is from Tough Dog more than happy to post
Failed product to you to follow Quality control and get a replacement. Just very weird
and think a few slipped through the gap as previosly stated

[taslucas]

A mate has a tough dog rtc. Fitted for over a year so hopefully he's got through the danger period!

[threedogs]

as You saw I cant for the love of me see how this failed due to Driver error,
Maybe I'll take it to Tough dog themselves and see what they say. do you
know if they have Factory/office in Aust

[taslucas]

Heres their website with a "contact us" section: http://www.toughdog.com.au/?page_id=47

[threedogs]

Just searched for head office And all I got was 4WD action 1st place for Tough dog product WTF

Edit found an Email address , sent off an email with heaps of pics, should be either nick off or heres a replacement,
would really like it to be the latter, I did mention to them it was on "a" forum

@ Lucas Thanks Bud shot them an email with pics, now just wait and see if they reply

[threedogs]

Bumped just to get facts correct, point of sale PPL said and Quote, "John, corrosion is not a warranty issue, he's had that somewhere pretty horrid
to end up looking like that, sell 50 a month for 8 yrs and never seen anything like that, cheers xxxxxxxxxx Un Quote

[NP99]

I would think if he had it somewhere horrid, then other components of the damper would be F'ked too.

[taslucas]

Is it corrosion though? I'm guessing that even if you splashed the spring in salt water weekly for a year it still wouldn't look Luke that on the inside?
Surely there's a knowledgable steel type of guy that can tell if it's corrosion or poor steel??

[twase]

That aint corrosion, I would expect if it was corrosion it would be from the outside suface penetrating inward not all the way through. Even then it would have to be submerged in the sea for years to look like that. I have seen WW2 ship wrecks in better condition than that.

[Yendor]

Bumped just to get facts correct, point of sale PPL said and Quote, "John, corrosion is not a warranty issue, he's had that somewhere pretty horrid
to end up looking like that, sell 50 a month for 8 yrs and never seen anything like that, cheers xxxxxxxxxx Un Quote

That's so wrong that they won't at least replace it.

If that's caused by corrosion I would hate to see what the rest of the vehicle look's like.

[NP99]

Time for people to slow up his 50 sales a month........

[BigRAWesty]

That is f'ed 3d. Totally not corrosion. Pm me his number and ill get into them..
As mentioned above, he'd need to go bath in an pure salt bath to get that failure in the given time..
But its come from inside.. its a fault in the steel..
An I call BS on 50 a month.. that's over 600 a year from one 4x4 place.. probably 20 good 4x4 shops in melb, so 12000 a year combined.. they ain't that popular..

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)

[mudnut]

The only time I have seen springs look remotely delineated like that, was on the rail tractor which used to push the grain wagons in the Portland Terminal, and that had been used there for many years.

[threedogs]

Point of sale have lost me, but waiting on email reply,
No one I've shown it to has yet said corrosion related failure.