Medal cheats

[NP99]

http://www.anzmi.net/medal%20cheats/medal%20cheats.html

Anzac Day fast approaching the cheats will be at it again!,,

[russ81]

There is a story on Ch 7 Today Tonight at 1830hrs 24 Apr regarding the Hines brothers and exposing fake veterans.
It's also sad to see real veterans adding medals that they aren't entitled to, to embellish there service.


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[NP99]

Yes, it's a running joke in my circle of army mates, we try and out story tell about black ops we have been on, so secret the army didn't even know.......we try and out bullshit each other just like the wankers on fraudster website :)

There's no need to embellish ....... They must have some real issues. It's an insult to all who have served!

[threedogs]

After my folks died my sister decided to keep everything of my parents, Including my fathers Medals
Am I able to get a second set struck so I can pass them on to my boys ???? Very frustrated this time of year
because of this issue,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Lest we forget

[macca]

We had a copy of my Grandads WW1 medals made for a display I made of buttons, badges, helmet ornaments etc he bought back from Galipolli and France.
We also had some miniatures made for the kids to wear at School and Anzac services.
They were done by Christies in Sydney.
So yes you can get them but I dont think they put the recipients name on the side like the genuine ones.

[russ81]

Hey NP you aren't a Buddy by any chance are you


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[NP99]

Hey NP you aren't a Buddy by any chance are you


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I'm not SF mate......77 to current, we may have crossed paths!!!

[Bloodyaussie]

Was having a good old chat yesterday to a digger who fought at Tobruk and he was a funny bugger....... he said it was not the loud mouth talky ones you had to watch out for it was the small quiet guy... when the shit hit the fan you would get these guys going off a specially in hand to hand!!!

[russ81]

Buddies is a Facebook group for past and present members of the RAR, quite a few guys in there very passionate about medals.
I was in 98-11, mainly Brissie but also spent time in Darwin and Perth.



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[Winnie]

Was having a good old chat yesterday to a digger who fought at Tobruk and he was a funny bugger....... he said it was not the loud mouth talky ones you had to watch out for it was the small quiet guy... when the shit hit the fan you would get these guys going off a specially in hand to hand!!!

I was talking to a vet on the weekend too and boy did he have some stories to tell!

If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

[threedogs]

Dad did a stint in the army and then the airforce swapping from Squad 13 to the 30 Squadron , think they were the Lancaster/ Beaufort bombers mainly based in Darwin
was there when it was bombed he was a radio operator,[morse code} fondly remember him tapping out messages on the kitchen table.
Few mates in my 4x4 club are ex Nam.

[oncedisturbed]

After my folks died my sister decided to keep everything of my parents, Including my fathers Medals
Am I able to get a second set struck so I can pass them on to my boys ???? Very frustrated this time of year
because of this issue,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Lest we forget

TD send us a pm with what you are looking, rego number etc and I can organise replicas for you as Dad and I mount medals etc


Tap, Tap, Taparoo

[PMC]

There is a story on Ch 7 Today Tonight at 1830hrs 24 Apr regarding the Hines brothers and exposing fake veterans.
It's also sad to see real veterans adding medals that they aren't entitled to, to embellish there service.


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Well said Russ,

Unfortunately, we have these squeezers living amongst us! I only attend the dawn service now to pay my respects. I only socialise with a couple of army mates at lunch at a local restaurant to avoid all the bullshit!

PS, all the best for ANZAC day mate!

Regards,

Paul

[PMC]

http://www.anzmi.net/medal%20cheats/medal%20cheats.html

Anzac Day fast approaching the cheats will be at it again!,,

'day NP99,

So true mate!

Regards,

RLI

[PMC]

Folks,

Technology is fantastic these days, we can check a persons military history via various websites, mobile phones take fantastic photos, if in doubt about a suspect person wearing false and bogus medals or just plain bull-shiting there service, take a photo and send it to DVA fraud investigations or better still, ANZMI website for investigation.

PS, all the best for ANZAC day!

Regards,

RLI

[taslucas]

I just heard on the radio that theives broke into a house and stole war medals..... What low lifes.


FanTapstic!

[NP99]

I joined the army without them knowing, wearing an invisible suit on black ops....these 18 medals I have include VC, bravery bar, citation, Purple Heart blah... And I wear the Sandy beret.....
This is the BS hype they sprog and wonder why they are caught out.

Paul and others.....have a great day

[NP99]

I just heard on the radio that theives broke into a house and stole war medals..... What low lifes.


FanTapstic!

If they are originals, our names are inscribed.....make it harder to sell them, sort of!

[PMC]

If they are originals, our names are inscribed.....make it harder to sell them, sort of!

So true NP99,

PS, have a good ANZAC day with your mates too!

Regards,

Paul

[taslucas]

If they are originals, our names are inscribed.....make it harder to sell them, sort of!

I wondered that. It makes you wonder what goes through some scums mind

FanTapstic!

[russ81]

Here is the feature on a massive wannabe.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/latest/article/-/16867390/military-imposter/


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[Timmo]

Have a good day guys, Will be attending the service at work and then its of to take my wife and kids for breaky to celebrate the wifes birthday then its of to watch the march........

[PMC]

Here is the feature on a massive wannabe.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/latest/article/-/16867390/military-imposter/


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G'day mate,

We had a fantastic dawn service in Coffs Harbour, unfortunately i had to question a fark-stick like the one identified in the TV report! This cock-head was wearing a VC. I ripped the fake medals from his chest and two mates and i frog marched the prick from the Coffs ex services club.

Regards,

RLI

[macca]

Will we see you on the news tonight? Well spotted and well done. A VC what a clown

[oncedisturbed]

Well done RLI, was down at the Regiment for the dawn service this morning which was a excellent service and had Cpl Donaldson VC standing beside us while munchkin was making his mark and signing a 1 off painting to go in the Regiment museum. Medal cheats must have something wrong with them to do crap like that.

Anywho thought I would also post a pic of the painting to lighten the thread.

28758


Tap, Tap, Taparoo

[Timmo]

wish I was back in Perth, the dawn service up here was probably the ,,,,,,well lets say it wasn't very good, compared to the last 2 years down Perth way......and I was very jealious when I heard the engineers start theirs, who just down the road next year I think I will be heading back to the engineer brotherhood and spending it with them...........all in all I still got all chocked up when I went to the memorial for smithy who was a very good doggie mate of mine when we where both in CER together.........to all that have given the ultimate sacrifice you will not be forgotten.......but I still ask and question as to why there are still members out there who go around placing tin on their suits? why do they do this not only does it embarrasses the nation for having imposters but makes them look like dicks.......any way all have a great day to all

[NP99]

wish I was back in Perth, the dawn service up here was probably the ,,,,,,well lets say it wasn't very good, compared to the last 2 years down Perth way......and I was very jealious when I heard the engineers start theirs, who just down the road next year I think I will be heading back to the engineer brotherhood and spending it with them...........all in all I still got all chocked up when I went to the memorial for smithy who was a very good doggie mate of mine when we where both in CER together.........to all that have given the ultimate sacrifice you will not be forgotten.......but I still ask and question as to why there are still members out there who go around placing tin on their suits? why do they do this not only does it embarrasses the nation for having imposters but makes them look like dicks.......any way all have a great day to all

CER know how to celebrate, I remember fondly The Holsworthy days (pre Darwin)

[NP99]

G'day mate,

We had a fantastic dawn service in Coffs Harbour, unfortunately i had to question a fark-stick like the one identified in the TV report! This cock-head was wearing a VC. I ripped the fake medals from his chest and two mates and i frog marched the prick from the Coffs ex services club.

Regards,

RLI

3 living VC's.......well done mate! These fools have no idea!!!

[NP99]

Here is the feature on a massive wannabe.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/latest/article/-/16867390/military-imposter/


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Ross Eastgate was my OC in the early 80's and is a man I trust without reservation. Well done Ross on exposing another fraud.

[Moatmonster]

3 living VC's.......well done mate! These fools have no idea!!!

4 I think mate, Keith Payne is still with us.

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[NP99]

4 I think mate, Keith Payne is still with us.

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You're correct mate, forgot about Daniel Keighran. :)

[PMC]

Well done RLI, was down at the Regiment for the dawn service this morning which was a excellent service and had Cpl Donaldson VC standing beside us while munchkin was making his mark and signing a 1 off painting to go in the Regiment museum. Medal cheats must have something wrong with them to do crap like that.

Anywho thought I would also post a pic of the painting to lighten the thread.

28758


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G'day mate,

Great looking painting!

Regards,

RLI

[PMC]

4 I think mate, Keith Payne is still with us.

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G'day folks,

We have 4 extraordinary VC living legends amongst us today! They are;

1. Keith Payne. VC won: Hen Het, Vietnam,24 May 1969

2. Mark Donaldson. VC won: Oruzgan Province, Afghanistan, 2 September 2008

3. Ben Roberts-Smith. VC won: Tizak, Kandahar Province, Afghanistan, 11 June 2010

4. Daniel Keighran. VC won: Oruzgan Province, Afghanistan, 24 August 2010

Regards,

RLI

[MC97GQ]

CER know how to celebrate, I remember fondly The Holsworthy days (pre Darwin)

NP99,

A good mate of mine was at Holsworthy from the '73 - '81, I think he was a Lance Bombardier in A Battalion.

Garry Champion, don't know if you might have encountered him.

Mark

[Stropp]

ha ha dont talk to me about holdsworthy thats where they sent the naughty RAAF boys to be locked up. BTW i didnt go there but close one time for running amuck.

[threedogs]

that Ben Roberts-Smith is one big dude and very humble taking his mates {deceased} children on the march.
You dont buy mateship you earn it, Two thumbs up to all, we will never know what it like

[PMC]

Changes to the Defence Act regarding Stolen Valour

24 April 2013

The Government has today announced that it will seek an amendment to the Defence Act to make it an offence for people to wear a service medal in a manner that falsely indicates that it has been conferred on them, when it has not.

Parliamentary Secretary for Defence Senator David Feeney said the proposed amendment will address concerns expressed by the veterans’ community over the incorrect wearing of unofficial decorations.

“We will be amending the Defence Act to include an offence of wearing an unofficial service decoration on the left breast,” Senator Feeney said.

An unofficial service decoration is one that has not been officially conferred on an individual.

“The proposed offence will be in addition to the protections for service decorations that are already contained in the Defence Act, and is in line with suggested changes to the Defence Act that have been raised by veterans and the Prime Ministerial Advisory Council on Ex-Service Matters,” Senator Feeney said.

The amendment will also be in line with Commonwealth guidance regarding the wearing of unofficial service decorations that appears on the Government’s ‘It’s an Honour’ website.

“Such an amendment is an example of the Government’s commitment to veterans and former members of the Defence Force and the honour system that reflects the sacrifices they have made for our country and people,” Senator Feeney said.

Media contacts:
Senator Feeney’s Office: Jeffrey Von Drehnen 0477 348 476
Defence Media Operations (02) 6127 1999

PS, about time!

Regards,

RLI

[russ81]

This was taken ANZAC day, it shows utter contempt for legitimate veterans
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/04/208.jpg


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[PMC]

This was taken ANZAC day, it shows utter contempt for legitimate veterans
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/04/208.jpg


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G'day Russ,

I wish i had met this farken imbecilic scum-bag on ANZAC day, it was bad enough removing a dick-brain from Coffs Harbour RSL wearing a VC, if i had come across this scrote, i would have had the pleasure of shoving all those farken tin medals up his arse!

Regards,

RLI

[oncedisturbed]

What the hell? No-one can obtain that many, some I am not sure of but 3-4 AASM's with 3-4 bars each, looks like 3-4 possibly UN medals on the bottom row. The photo is pretty blurry on the phone which makes it hard.


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[NP99]

This was taken ANZAC day, it shows utter contempt for legitimate veterans
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/04/208.jpg


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You mean the guy with the Collingwood jumper? :)

[russ81]

Lol

Photo must have been taken in centrelink

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[russ81]

Another pic of the flog bag from ANZAC day,
The photos and details of his FB profile have been forwarded to ANZMI

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/05/3.jpg


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[macca]

Russ is that the same coat on 2 blokes or were there 2 seperate "collections"?
They look the same but the bloke with the beard seems to have a lapel pin as well.
Dad has stories of blokes doing this after the WWII, causing all sorts of shizen when the real blokes caught them out.

[NP99]

[QUOTE=russ81;368422]Another pic of the flog bag from ANZAC day,
The photos and details of his FB profile have been forwarded to ANZMI

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/05/3.jpg

I just want to pile drive that pos.....I'm looking forward to his

[russ81]

Russ is that the same coat on 2 blokes or were there 2 seperate "collections"?
They look the same but the bloke with the beard seems to have a lapel pin as well.
Dad has stories of blokes doing this after the WWII, causing all sorts of shizen when the real blokes caught them out.

How sit going Macca

I believe it's the same bloke / same coat going by his Facebook page.


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[Parksy]

Retard. What do these people think? I'd feel so strange wearing medals I didn't earn myself, but I guess we do live in a world where there are people that have no conscious.

[russ81]

Another pic of this clown
More info to follow

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/05/7.jpg


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[Clunk]

Excuse the naivety as I have never been a member of the forces and know nothing of medals........ Could this fella have been wearing deceased family members or close friends medals and if so is that allowed? Or has he actually claimed that they are his?

Don't slap it, tap it!!!!

[Parksy]

If worn on the right side of his chest he can wear his families/friends medals. Wearing on the left is medals earnt.

[NP99]

Excuse the naivety as I have never been a member of the forces and know nothing of medals........ Could this fella have been wearing deceased family members or close friends medals and if so is that allowed? Or has he actually claimed that they are his?

Don't slap it, tap it!!!!

Plus he has an excessive amount.........

[russ81]

Excuse the naivety as I have never been a member of the forces and know nothing of medals........ Could this fella have been wearing deceased family members or close friends medals and if so is that allowed? Or has he actually claimed that they are his?

Don't slap it, tap it!!!!

How's it going mate, great question, just a few bits of info to help you and others understand military honours a little better.

This clown is a wannabe just like the Hines brothers who are currently facing criminal charges for this exact offence.

This guy is claiming to be from the Navy holding a rank of Major General ( army rank not navy) he is also wearing medals that are awarded for gallantry and medals for nearly every conflict the ADF has been involved.

1. Medals which are authorised by the honours and awards system are to be worn on the left hand side only by the original recipient.

2. Family members wearing the medals of a deceased member are to wear them on the right hand side.

3. State awards and non authorised medals if worn must be worn on the right hand side, and are not to be mounted in conjunction with national awards.


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[Clunk]

Thanks for the replies guys, certainly makes things clearer, now have a far better understanding of the angst you feel towards such folk.

Don't slap it, tap it!!!!

[NP99]

My kids got challenged for wearing theirs on the wrong side. Knob told them to wear on the right......shock when they said, no left, they are our medals!!!!

[russ81]

Unfortunately these guy are able to get away with this crap as generally the average joe citizen wouldn't question, due to the lack of knowledge out there regarding military honours and awards.
Each medal and award tells a story about where the owner has been and what they have done.
Military personnel can pick an imposter by just one small flaw in that story,




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[NP99]

Plus the courts don't give a flying F with convictions.....

[Ben-e-boy]

Unfortunately these guy are able to get away with this crap as generally the average joe citizen wouldn't question, due to the lack of knowledge out there regarding military honours and awards.
Each medal and award tells a story about where the owner has been and what they have done.
Military personnel can pick an imposter by just one small flaw in that story,





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you have to wonder. where I grew up old jack next door was WW11 vet He didnt accept any of his medals and always marched with nothing on his chest.

[oncedisturbed]

This guy is a clown, the 1st medal 2nd row is the current Afghanistan Medal, another looks like the 1951-72 Anniversary of National Service, 3 look like Australian Active Service Medals with what appears like 19 clasps between the 3 medals, 4 x Australian Service Medals with again what looks like 19-20 clasps between them, 2 x Australian Service Medal 1945-75 with 9-10 clasps.

The 1st medal on the 1st row is a Distinguished Service Cross and next to it the Distinguished Service Medal and the INTERFET Medal as the last on the same row and an Iraq Medal squirreled in there as well.

This guy has to be the Bionic Man to have been able to do the amount of service conflict areas and would be Australia's most awarded Service Person.

[oncedisturbed]

How's it going mate, great question, just a few bits of info to help you and others understand military honours a little better.

This clown is a wannabe just like the Hines brothers who are currently facing criminal charges for this exact offence.

This guy is claiming to be from the Navy holding a rank of Major General ( army rank not navy) he is also wearing medals that are awarded for gallantry and medals for nearly every conflict the ADF has been involved.

1. Medals which are authorised by the honours and awards system are to be worn on the left hand side only by the original recipient.

2. Family members wearing the medals of a deceased member are to wear them on the right hand side.

3. State awards and non authorised medals if worn must be worn on the right hand side, and are not to be mounted in conjunction with national awards.


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Approval can be given by a relevant authority in order to wear State / non - authorised medals. AFP, State Police etc authorise their personel to be able to wear those awarded to them, ADF unless approved by the Governor General's Office or Honours and Awards don't usually allow the mixing of commendations

[Parksy]

It's very easy to get replica medals made up. Just a matter of going to any website that makes them and put an order in. Looking at one of the pictures it appears his medals are swing mounted, which aren't mounted like that anymore, suggesting that he's had them for awhile. Though I don't know much about medal mounting so not 100%, but sill interesting.

[NP99]

It's very easy to get replica medals made up. Just a matter of going to any website that makes them and put an order in. Looking at one of the pictures it appears his medals are swing mounted, which aren't mounted like that anymore, suggesting that he's had them for awhile. Though I don't know much about medal mounting so not 100%, but sill interesting.

Most medal mounting places will mount to order.

[PMC]

Another pic of this clown
More info to follow

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/05/7.jpg


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Mate, looking at the back-drop, i do not mind taking this prick skydiving! I can guarantee one thing for sure, he will make terminal velocity! lol

Regards,

RLI

[PMC]

Unfortunately these guy are able to get away with this crap as generally the average joe citizen wouldn't question, due to the lack of knowledge out there regarding military honours and awards.
Each medal and award tells a story about where the owner has been and what they have done.
Military personnel can pick an imposter by just one small flaw in that story,




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So true Russ!

Regards,

RLI

[macca]

Thanks guys for the explanation of what this bloke is wearing.
Can you explain the Bar or Clasp please.
I have some idea but if you can add so many like this example I am surely wrong.

[oncedisturbed]

Macca - it will vary depending on award, generally a clasp (rosette) will be awarded for length of continual service i.e. National Service medal which is generally awarded for 15 years service and 1 x rosette for each 10 yr service there-after.

It can also include clasps for other awards such as the Bravery Award with the Wattle Leaf clasp on a reddish ribbon as another example.

In regards to other "bars / clasps", they will refer to the area / conflict in which the person served e.g - Australian Active Service Medal with a "PNG" clasp refers to service in Papua New Guinea.

There are also the Ribbon Bars themselves which is the basic form in which the medals are displayed for general uniforms, not ceremonial and the miniature medals would be for something like a "Dining In Night / Formal Dinner" where by personell wear their "Mess Dress" uniforms.

Last set of bars which are generally worn on the right are Unit Citations / Commendations which are again ribbon bars which are awarded for things like Bravery, Gallantry etc.


Hope this helps :)

[macca]

Thanks OD,

If the person had a VC with bar does that mean they have been awarded the medal again for a second and seperate act deserving recognition?

edit; Just using a VC as an example, not saying it has been awarded. If it did happen would a bar be presented or another medal? that was were I was coming from.

[oncedisturbed]

To be honest I haven't the foggiest idea on that as I have never seen anything / anyone who has been awarded more than 1 VC. It is possible that if that was to eventuate then possibly a bar / clasp may be utilised.

There is nothing showing such a thing on the Honours and Awards - Order of Precendence listings that I have seen but am happy to be proven wrong on that :)

[NP99]

Thanks OD,

If the person had a VC with bar does that mean they have been awarded the medal again for a second and seperate act deserving recognition?

Your logic is correct Macca.

[PMC]

Hines twin brothers wannabes! Part 1

The following report on the Hines Bros has been provided by Garry Sloane …

Okay, a report on Friday 5 April proceedings as I saw it at the court hearing of the two Hines brothers accused of wearing un-awarded Defence medals.

This has been sent to another couple of areas so a bit might not seem applicable to here but it will give you the general idea of what happened at the court. If you have a genuine interest in our medals and their preservation, I am asking you now, that if you live in the general area of Brisbane to attend the court hearings with your medals on your chest to silently show your disgust for this pair and all those who are wearing tin medals or medals to which have not been lawfully issued. I will let you all know through Ray when the next appearance will be and this time it will be the trial.

We arrived at the court at approximately 0800 and quite a few blokes were there already. Between 8 and 0830 a lot more blokes sporting their medals turned up and this included one poor bloke in a wheelchair as you would have seen from the newspaper report.

Twin brothers accused of impersonating diggers during an Anzac Day parade skipped court, avoiding a protest by angry retired servicemen | The Courier-Mail

There were a lot of veterans from other corps there aside from those from the RAR this time, which was good to see, and a head count as good as I could do it, indicated there were 42 people there. We all then proceeded through the security area and up to court room six. Media people were there in abundance and we all moved inside the court and sat down, well as many as possible sat down, it ended up standing room only. Prior to the judge arriving six other blokes turned up immaculately dressed in suits and wearing medals. One other just had his RASB on. All had very short hair and they didn't really introduce themselves to everyone. More on those blokes to follow.

The judge turned up and I was watching him look around the room at all the blokes with medals on. I also noticed the defence lawyer eyeing us up and down but she never said a word. A couple of cases were heard before the Hines case came up and they were short and sweet. Then it was our turn. It was a bit hard to understand everything that was said but the basics of it are that our John Carr, the brother that has changed his name, is still in custody and has been there for five months. He has indicated that he is pleading guilty to all charges. George on the other hand, he was the dominant one of the two, still intends to fight everything. This I think can be put down to the fact that they have paid for and have a book called MASK about all of their bull**** exploits waiting to be published.

The defence lawyer indicated that George was still not ready to appear and the judge then indicated that it would be postponed until next Friday and on that date a trial date WILL be set. There is really no need for us to turn up there on that day but I and anyone else that would like to appear to show that we have not lost interest is quite welcome to turn up. Same drill, medals on chest and a few beers afterwards.

Once the court was over we all moved outside and were asked to move into a room beside the court as a bloke wanted to speak to us. We all moved in there and that's when we got a bit of a shock. The fellow that spoke to us is a detective sergeant, I won't give out his name for obvious reasons, but I do have his business card. The other five blokes who were immaculately dressed in suits also came into the room. This detective sergeant identified himself as a returned younger veteran and announced that he was the one that first received the photographs you have seen of the Hines brothers wearing all of their bull**** and he decided it was time that the police started to do something about these fake veterans and he and the other immaculately dressed suits who are also returned veterans from Afghanistan/Iraq/Timor etc., proceeded to lay charges against the pair. At about this point everyone in the room started clapping. He indicated that it was time to get right amongst all these fake veterans and lay charges against them and he made it quite clear that he was aware that we were looking for a precedent so that we could go hunting them too.

I have this blokes business card and I intend to contact him this week. I intend to tell him that there are blokes all across the country that will be looking out for tin medals on ANZAC Day and see if he, through being a police officer, can contact other police in other states to see if we have other ex-service police officers who are prepared to do the same thing right across Australia. If we can establish a crew in each state and have their details available then we have a chance finally of getting amongst these tin wearers and getting them out of the ranks and charges with the relevant offences.

I have been right onto these fake medal wearers now for over twenty years and have seen their numbers drop a little through my ranting to associations but they are still out there so if we can get a decent precedent set and the police will finally charge them it might stop them if they get hit in the pocket or think they might possibly go to jail for doing it.

Now let me make one thing quite clear here to one and all. I am not a member of the wannabe hunters, ANZMI. They go after people who are out and out frauds and defrauding the DVA system. My aim is to get the fake medals off the chests of those who have never earned any medals and also off the chests of the genuine blokes who are trying to enhance their rack or service by wearing stuff they haven’t been awarded. That is demeaning to their service and there is no need to wear rubbish on their racks when they have been issued genuine medals for genuine service.

Since the second last hearing of the Hines twins some of us were seen on TV and we have received death threats from three people in particular. I am going to name them here and tell you why. Each of these people is an advocate within the DVA system. Each of them are wearing and have admitted that they are wearing tin medals and have declared they can and will wear whatever they want to wear as they are no longer in service. Well that may be so that they can wear whatever they want but the protocol for tin medals as shown on the Honours and Awards area states that they are not to be racked in amongst genuine service medals and if worn at all should be worn on the right breast and below any NOK medals that are worn. That way it will give all us genuine veterans a good laugh when these poseurs wear their tin enhancements. The three people I refer to here are:

Former WO2 Paul Copeland [ ex Signals corps] this bloke is wearing tin and has come up with an outlandish story on why he wears this and bits and pieces of Navy and Commando uniform embellishments that he also has no entitlement to. He can be found here on the ANZMI pages as someone has written him up about all his bull**** and claims. copeland Copeland is a DVA advocate and operates out of Victoria.

The second bloke is a former WO1 by the name of Michael Quinn. This bloke is the same as Copeland and is wearing tin and has admitted it. He also emailed and rang me threatening to come to Brisbane and murder me but at this stage he must be lost as he hasn’t arrived as yet. He also hacked my Facebook page I have for my kids who live interstate and this bloke is that bright he used his own identity to do this. That and the emailed death threats have been handed over to the police and I am waiting to hear what will happen there at this stage. This bloke is also from Signals Corps and is a member of the APPVA, the Australian Peacekeepers and Peacemakers Veterans site started by and currently being ruined by Copeland because of his tin wearing and lies he is putting out across the internet. Quinn is also a DVA Advocate operating out of Victoria and formerly Signals Corps the same as Copeland…..peas in a pod it would seem.

The third fool in this trio of musketeers is a Navy bloke by the name of Rod Thompson. Also a tin wearer who has admitted he wears this stuff and will continue to do so as it makes him feel good. Between him, Quinn and Copeland they saw the news item of the Veterans at the Hines court hearing and using all three tiny brain cells they deduced that all who appeared there were “ANZMI operatives” and have made up a fictitious list of these veterans and some of their friends who they claim are “ANZMI Operatives” and have put this list out across the internet. Thompson, the ex-Navy fool, has sent an email far and wide stating that he will personally pay a $1000 bounty to anyone who will kill each person on the list. A very stupid move by a very stupid Navy tin wearing fool and this too has been handed to the police and everyone on that list is now waiting for a result from the police. Thompson is also a DVA advocate in Queensland.

Part 2 next!

RLI

Regards,

RLI

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Hines twin brothers wannabes! Part 2

These three really should not have anything to do with advocacy and Veterans and I believe there are many letters either on their way to or at the DVA now calling for them to be removed. God knows what type of stuff these people have been shoving into the younger veterans about claims and all this is very reminiscent of China Hammel, another Navy veteran who was falsifying claims for people.

Rest assured this is not over by any means and will not be finished until some form of action is taken by DVA and/or they are charged under the Defence Act for wearing medals badges and accoutrements to which they have no entitlement. I am just waiting for the end of the Hines case so we have a precedent and then I personally will refer the three of them to the same police officers who charges the Hines twins.

Quinn and Thompson also appear in Copeland’s ANZMI page entry. Read their comments on there.

Enough is enough. We have to get the tin off the chests of those who are stealing honour or wearing medals to which they have no entitlement. I have said above I am not ANZMI but I do like what they do to those who are stealing benefits but this, fellow Veterans, is a different approach. This is the improper use of our medals and now with a precedence looming and finally with some police that will follow up and charge these fools it is time to rid them from our ranks. Make no mistake, when a precedent comes out of the Hines case I will be approaching the three main offending associations to see what they intend to do about the tin wearers in their associations.

The three main offenders are. The RSL, The Navy Association and the dreaded 3 month Nasho association. They stole our Volunteers medal and they still parade around with tin on their chests. Well enough is enough and now it’s time to hit them in the wallet if they insist on wearing tin on their left beast.

There will be far more to this soon and I thank Ray for passing this across his network to everyone. If you have the same sentiments as me for these tin wearers then please see if the police in your state will form their own tin soldier squad. There will no doubt be younger veterans who are now police officers in your state and like the Queensland fellas I am sure they will be quick to take action against these people.

The Hines twins will find out this Friday when their trial will begin. I will send out another email through Ray to let all of you know the dates. It is expected that it will be over three days. One, John, as I have said above, has decided to plead guilty and he has been held in custody on “another matter” for the last 5 months. George, who is apparently the stand over man of the two is intending to fight the charges and plead not guilty. How I don’t know when there are those magnificent photos of him with over 50 medals on his chest but I guess this has to be played out as he has paid out to have a book published about the so called service he has done. Seems to sound a bit reminiscent of another foolish veteran we are all aware of as far as I can see.

For those of you that live around the Brisbane area I would ask you all to attend the court when this finally goes down. The more we have there showing concerns for the fools who are stealing our service and valour the better. There were approximately 42 there at the last hearing and we need more. Some came from as far away as Rockhampton so if you can make it please be there with your medals on your chest. I will advise the dates as soon as I know this Friday.

Cheers All

Garry Sloane

Regards,

RLI

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WTF......bounties of $1000. These guys are crazy!!!

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Another pic of this clown
More info to follow

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G'day Russ,

Not long now before this parasite will be permanently displayed to the world for his unlawful actions!

PS, could you please PM me the the photo's as an attachment file of this dick-brain, so i can forward them onto to other organisations please!

Regards,

RLI

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Lets see how the new legislation impacts on the scrote!
I'd love to challenge him and belt him one....

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How apt with the trash can

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G'day Russ,

Not long now before this parasite will be permanently displayed to the world for his unlawful actions!

PS, could you please PM me the the photo's as an attachment file of this dick-brain, so i can forward them onto to other organisations please!

Regards,

RLI

Hey Paul,
Any update on this clown?

[russ81]

He has been reported to VICPOL and ANZMI, I did have the link to his Facebook page, just need to find it.

He gave an ANZAC day speach where he claimed to be a MAJGEN from the RAN. (Can't see any problem with that small detail lol).

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