Auto Lockers... which one??

[Bloodyaussie]

I have done a bloody front seal again and have needed to do wheel bearings for a while now so this time I want to fit a locker while it is apart..

Reading Growlers thread http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?5784-My-attempt-at-installing-a-LOKKA-brand-Auto-locker but wanted to know what locker is prefered and how hard are they to install ??? do you have to measure backlash???

Who runs what locker???????????????????

Yes I have had a search but the subject matter gets lost in all the dribble we are all good at and I start to zone out!!! yeah I know..??

[growler2058]

Backlash not required on front diff
Easy to DIY
LoKKa (4wd systems)

[GUtsy ute]

Change room lockers aren't bad!!LOL

Lockrite or lokka, much the same in price and performance.
Comes down to personal choice or what your mate says!

You picked the wrong one, "Son" LOL

[Stropp]

A few guys over here are running the spartan lockers, cheaper and stronger apparently.

[Bloodyaussie]

Yeah price and location was the other question???

Setting the backlash was the only thing stopping me from doing it myself......

[threedogs]

Save your money and get an air or electric lokka.
IMO you'll be disappointed in having auto lockka
in front, as you can't turn it off if for eg trying to catch up with the convoy.
You only use lockkas sparingly, maybe on the back but its N/R as great LSD
Your steering will be compomised as well, I would never put one in the front.
but some people swear by them, bet they'd swear at them if they fitted an air lockka.
Go for a drive with an experienced person with a lockka and see how many times and when they use it
Then follow doing same track, It may surprise you M2Cw

[growler2058]

Had twin arb air lockers
Prefer my auto lokka 10 fold
Modern day auto lockers are a lot more user friendly than those in the OLD DAYS

[threedogs]

Same princible foot down locked, foot off unlocked right ??
Not my cup of tea, better options out there But thats just my opinion.
Had one in the rear of late 4x4 as I was offered at price I couldn't refuse.
Took it out . Not for me but you like them, hey Two different opinions
from two ppl who hav tried them. I'm just saying I wouldn't fit one
Again

[mudski]

I think it comes down to personal choice and what you like. Holden and Ford bla, bla, bla. The only way BA will know is for himself. He will know if the auto locker is not for him.
For me I will be going air. I just want the choice of having it on or off, but thats not we are talking about here. What has Andy got in his? Actually BA it not a stupid idea to rub Andy up the right way and ask him for a drive in his to see what its like. You both have Q's...

[04OFF]

IMO you'll be disappointed in having auto lockka
in front, as you can't turn it off if for eg trying to catch up with the convoy.



3D, i understand you can't turn a Lokka "off", but im a bit confused as to why this would effect catching up with a convoy ?

Only thing i can think you may mean , is flicking the car into 2wd for a short road stint, if this is the case, a Lokka wont effect this .


Or did you mean something else ?

[Bloodyaussie]

It comes down to dollars... I need to rebuild my hubs again and put new bearings in and I have 2 mortgages and trying for a third.. kids school fees and so on .... so me spending $2000 on getting a locker installed is not fair on my family so whether I like it or not the only locker for me is an auto if I want one at all... so dont start telling me I should forget about auto ones unless you want to buy the bloody thing for me ???

I just wanted info on the different types of auto lockers and how much people spent and where I should look for the best deal... ??? thank you!!!!!!!!

[growler2058]

Same princible foot down locked, foot off unlocked right ??
Not my cup of tea, better options out there But thats just my opinion.
Had one in the rear of late 4x4 as I was offered at price I couldn't refuse.
Took it out . Not for me but you like them, hey Two different opinions
from two ppl who hav tried them. I'm just saying I wouldn't fit one
Again

No always locked in 4wd unlocks when turning
Locks when turning and on the loud pedal

[Stropp]

Yeah price and location was the other question???

Setting the backlash was the only thing stopping me from doing it myself......

BA the guys over here are paying $460 for a spartan and installing themselves, i think a couple have had them installed for around $200, so pretty cheap.

[threedogs]

If thats $200 install on the front thats good value.
As cant charge extra for front end rebuild lol

[Stropp]

the spartans are on ebay out of the usa for $370 delivered to the door.

[threedogs]

Also would you need to put part time free wheeling hubs on the front ???

[BigRAWesty]

Also would you need to put part time free wheeling hubs on the front ???

Yea you can't run auto lokka with auto hubs.. unless you have shares in a Cv joint..

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)

[threedogs]

Thanks thought so, more $$$$$ for you BA,

@ Growler you saying under going uphill you have steering???
not that you'd be going full noise you should be only creeping with locker engaged'
might have answered my own question. go figure. Still not my cup of tea, I like selecting
when and where the locker should be activated .

[lhurley]

http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/index.php?pag_id=111

This is the info page about a "lokka" locker. They work slightly different to the others, detroit and lockrite. But end of the day they are more or less the same thing. Try to not think of them as an "Auto-Locker" per say, think of it as an auto UN-locker.
They call Lokka's a 25 min locker, as they are that easy to install. I know i will be getting one soon. From memory they are about $400. I actually email lokka the other day to get a quote with shipping to my place (qld) so i will let you know.

I have a mate with a gq with a lockrite in it, and i would say that it hasnt hampered his turning to any real noticeable amount. The only time i ever noticed it, was when i was trying to do a flick spin (turn the car with power) but it just pushed through as it locker when i put my foot down. It comes down to, drive the car accordingly. For the price they want its almost a case of why not more then anything.

I will be getting a Lokka brand locker very soon.

[Stropp]

yeh one pf the guys over here that does a fair bit of hardcore stuff says the spartan has thicker pins so is stronger so i just went by his say so and bought one, so hopefully he is right.

[threedogs]

So that pin is the weakest link,Just the constant clunk,clunk clunk, Sorry so offence Clunk just a sound affect lol.
nah cant sell me one did have it on my 350 chev 4x4 loved the torque flick changing gears, BTW mine was fitted to the rear.
Fitted Air locker in front as Mudski is doing while front end needs reco, plus auto lockka in rear, not much would stop you,
Then removed it and fitted air lockka to rear FYI I only sold auto lockka last week to a guy with a 60s

[Clunk]

yeh one pf the guys over here that does a fair bit of hardcore stuff says the spartan has thicker pins so is stronger so i just went by his say so and bought one, so hopefully he is right.

Well he isn't wrong very often though hey lol

Don't slap it, tap it!!!!

[04OFF]

Yea you can't run auto lokka with auto hubs.. unless you have shares in a Cv joint..

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)


Thanks thought so, more $$$$$ for you BA,
.


You can modify the auto hubs to "only" work as manuals (just have to use wheelbrace to engauge, instead of fingers), takes about 5 min a side to do the mod, and costs 0$ :biggrin:

[Bloodyaussie]

I have manual hubs... they were replaced ages ago.

So who has found the best price and from where???

I want to get the stuff for this soon otherwise I will get lazy and just end up doing the seals and bearings as my money will find a home on bills or something???

[Stropp]

the spartans are on ebay out of the usa for $370 delivered to the door.

here you go

[macca86]

I have a lokka and love it haven't noticed any change to the turning circle the steering is a little heavier but power steering its still lighter than Armstrong steering.
No need to catch up to the convoy you don't get stuck or hold up the group in high range on te farm was doing 80 inte paddock didn't effect handeling only down sides I see is slightly heavy steering slight clunk engaging more positives for a far cheaper cost if on a budget it's te way to go

[Bloodyaussie]

here you go

Is that a link??? if so.."FAIL"... if not and you are telling me to get off my lazy ass then.... thanks and get a dog up ya!!!!!!

[Bloodyaussie]

I am struggling to find one for $370 LANDED????????????

[Winnie]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Spartan-Locker-for-Nissan-Patrol-with-31-spline-axles-sl-npatrol-31-/121060485243?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c2fc4687b&_uhb=1#ht_492wt_1184

[growler2058]

Thanks thought so, more $$$$$ for you BA,

@ Growler you saying under going uphill you have steering???
.

Correct. Slight throttle control to assist but most definitely more than an air/elec locker by a long shot

[Bloodyaussie]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Spartan-Locker-for-Nissan-Patrol-with-31-spline-axles-sl-npatrol-31-/121060485243?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c2fc4687b&_uhb=1#ht_492wt_1184

Thanks Chris... you sexy.... much better than that Growler bloke, he was no help at all!!!!!!!

[BigRAWesty]

Geeze I might have to start buying a few bottles of perfume to persway wifey seeing as I'm doing a rebuild.. :p

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)

[growler2058]

Thanks Chris... you sexy.... much better than that Growler bloke, he was no help at all!!!!!!!

Theres no helping some people

The lord helps those who help themselves

You can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink

[teno45]

You can modify the auto hubs to "only" work as manuals (just have to use wheelbrace to engauge, instead of fingers), takes about 5 min a side to do the mod, and costs 0$ :biggrin:

How do you do this? At $400 and change, I think the troll might just get itself an auto locker before the cape trip...

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[Bloodyaussie]

Theres no helping some people

The lord helps those who help themselves

You can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink

Do you want a cuddle Growler....... come mate lets man hug!!!!!!!!

I was looking to you for the most help???

[threedogs]

Can I get your 4x4 details BA I'll get a price First thing in the Morning for you.

[Bloodyaussie]

93 GQ Patrol 4.2efi

[04OFF]

How do you do this? At $400 and change, I think the troll might just get itself an auto locker before the cape trip...

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It was a while ago i did mine ,so maybe search how to get your hubs apart if your not 100% sure, but its very easy, basically, you remove the hub, the bit you can now see inside that looks kinda of like a big washer, is the bit that you need to remove.

From memory, I held the hub in hand, with the "outside" face pointing up, then i tapped the "inside" outer edge/face of the hub down on a bit of timber, till the guts of the hub fall out , just remove the washer looking bit that comes out first (this is the "auto" part) then just put it back together and on the car (leaving the washer bit out)


Then ,auto = free, lock = lock.


I think i locked hub with wheelbrace to hold the guts of the hub while re-installing.




I just keep/poke my wheelbrace under the side of the drivers seat for easy access

[hekarewe]

3D when you said you cant unlock and auto lockka,,, you missed how the auto lokka actually works,,,, they should really be call unlokka's. i have a goanna lokka in the front of my GU and when engaging 4wd they remain locked as in turning on an air lokka they remain like this at all times when in 4wd the differance is that they sense the preasure caused from steering and then UNLOCK which is why they should be called unlokkas this allows you to manouver with out having to fumble with switches as for catching up with the convoy if your using proper convoy proceedures the convoy should not have left you behind unless your making an ass out of yourself and they are trying to get rid of you.

@ bloodyaussie the best thing i ever did to my GU was the auto lokka from goanna 4wd systems which is a copy of the lock rite lokka and matched it up with reduction gearing from marks adapters the lokka works fantasticly no air lines or wire to get caught on and they are solid i doubt if i will ever break it as for the reduction gears i now have nothing but control and traction of road now the only moving parts in the auto lokka are the springs that put the tension on unit they are a very tight fit into the front diff as for the rear diff if it is slipping i would recomend shimming it up to tighten it before putting any sort of lokka in the rear.

[Bloodyaussie]

It was a while ago i did mine ,so maybe search how to get your hubs apart if your not 100% sure, but its very easy, basically, you remove the hub, the bit you can now see inside that looks kinda of like a big washer, is the bit that you need to remove.

From memory, I held the hub in hand, with the "outside" face pointing up, then i tapped the "inside" outer edge/face of the hub down on a bit of timber, till the guts of the hub fall out , just remove the washer looking bit that comes out first (this is the "auto" part) then just put it back together and on the car (leaving the washer bit out)


Then ,auto = free, lock = lock.


I think i locked hub with wheelbrace to hold the guts of the hub while re-installing.




I just keep/poke my wheelbrace under the side of the drivers seat for easy access

I have had my hubs apart many times on the GQ and my old Hilux so am no stranger... I really did not need the sell on the auto locker more that I wanted opinions of the different ones and cost and where they got them from..... thanks very much for the tips !!

[hekarewe]

[QUOTE=Westy's Accessories;364969]Yea you can't run auto lokka with auto hubs.. unless you have shares in a Cv joint..

got to disagree with that statement i have auto hubs in my GU with the auto lokka and have no issues with CV's and thats after 12 months of abuse around lithgow and up here around brisbane and will be heading up to cape york in 6 weeks with them and full of confidence . the only thing you have to remember with the lokka's is that after 4wding you need to enage 2wd and then travell in in the opersite direction ie if you were just go forward go backwards for a few meters swinging the steering so as to make sure the front diff is properly disengaged this only on;ly takes a minit a couple of meters works everytime

[growler2058]

Do you want a cuddle Growler....... come mate lets man hug!!!!!!!!

I was looking to you for the most help???

Ok Ok heres a helpful tip for you

















































BUY THE BLOODY LOKKA!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.4wdsystems.com.au/index.php?id=29

[BigRAWesty]

Yea good point. Once in 2wd you have no drive to engage the lokka or auto hubs.

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)

[lhurley]

Yea good point. Once in 2wd you have no drive to engage the lokka or auto hubs.

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)

Technically yes, but not quite. The lokka is locked at the time, regardless of engine. But when turning the wheel, the ground forces make the outside wheel turn faster then the inside wheel, it is "outrunning" the inside wheel, but equal engine drive is still going to both wheels.

[lhurley]

As i am also interested in getting an auto lokka, i have emailed a few places tonight for prices, i can post prices here once i get word back.

[Bloodyaussie]

Ok Ok heres a helpful tip for you

















































BUY THE BLOODY LOKKA!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.4wdsystems.com.au/index.php?id=29

You funny man!!!!!!! so you think this is the best locker??? or this is the only one you have tried and have no opinion of any other locker!!!

[nissannewby]

You blokes don't have any tracks down there that require lockers :p

[growler2058]

You blokes don't have any tracks down there that require lockers :p

You poor misguided soul

[growler2058]

You funny man!!!!!!! so you think this is the best locker??? or this is the only one you have tried and have no opinion of any other locker!!!

I had twin ARB lockers in a lowlux non power steering
Ya needed muscles in ya shit to turn the steering or reflexes like a steel trap to turn the bastard on n off then its not instant. Only had the Lokka from 4wd systems so can't comment on other auto lockers

[nissannewby]

You poor misguided soul

I know I'm misguided but that doesn't change a thing about the tracks :p

[Bloodyaussie]

I had twin ARB lockers in a lowlux non power steering
Ya needed muscles in ya shit to turn the steering or reflexes like a steel trap to turn the bastard on n off then its not instant. Only had the Lokka from 4wd systems so can't comment on other auto lockers

Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!

I had a Hilux with no power steering.. every now and then I would use it to go pick my daughter up from school and you really had to be on your A game as it is tight negotiating all those bad driving mums with no power steering and sitting 50m in the air!!

[growler2058]

Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!

I had a Hilux with no power steering.. every now and then I would use it to go pick my daughter up from school and you really had to be on your A game as it is tight negotiating all those bad driving mums with no power steering and sitting 50m in the air!!

33's locked 18psi leaf sprung lolux= pharqin pig hahahahaha
Lockin the rear only was fun had a commy v6 and shift kit auto, bit of mud and woo hoo

[Stropp]

Is that a link??? if so.."FAIL"... if not and you are telling me to get off my lazy ass then.... thanks and get a dog up ya!!!!!!

Yes that was a get off lazy ass :))

[Bloodyaussie]

Yes that was a get off lazy ass :))

I dont know why I could not find it as I use to have that locker saved in my ebay??

Anyway I have a Winnie..??? ooh eer that's a bit rude isn't it!!!

[Winnie]

I think you could repay me with a locker

If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

[Bloodyaussie]

I just spoke to the guys at 4wd systems and I think I will order one of there's..

None available for 2 weeks but I dont see me getting it done before then anyway.

Want to go with the local one so I have less issues with warranty.. thanks Growler.... special cuddle for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[04OFF]

I just spoke to the guys at 4wd systems and I think I will order one of there's..

None available for 2 weeks

FYI, 2 weeks is what they told me, actually was exactly 4 weeks before i saw it posted to bris, they told me they were getting a new batch made, when mine turned up, it had so much corrosion on it, it looked like it had been sitting around for months,(http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?6997-Crusty-Auto-Lokka-!) so i sent it back.

They very quickly and with no fuss sent me a new one, but it basically took 5 weeks from the time i paid for one , to be able to fit it, so i suggest you wait till you have it in your hand until pulling diff apart.

[threedogs]

Thought it would arrive wrapped up in wax/greased paper.. Maybe some air got to it prior to fitting

[PMC]

Change room lockers aren't bad!!LOL

Lockrite or lokka, much the same in price and performance.
Comes down to personal choice or what your mate says!

You picked the wrong one, "Son" LOL

I agree with GUsty ute!

I have only fitted them to the front diff of past and present Patrols. Both GQ's and GU's

Regards,

RLI

[nissannewby]

Thought it would arrive wrapped up in wax/greased paper.. Maybe some air got to it prior to fitting

If you have a look at 04off rolled thread this is not something that would happen with him. He is extremely skilled and meticulous as well his work is awesome.

[cgm]

I put a Lokka in front of my Trooper (Jackaroo). Had it sent directly here to Saudi. Was very happy with their service. I wasn't up to fitting it in front myself but found someone to do it. Put manual hubs on so it could effectively be on/off with hubs. Loved it. Didn't really expect it to make too much difference in sand but was surprised from time to timd how noticeable it was. Driving with it in 4wd is fine. No mucking around and basically nothing to go wrong.

Their warranty approach seems to suggest you'll break something else before it. I never had CV issues while Lokka was in, but a few weeks back (after 2 years) my mate who bought the Trooper had to change one of the AVM hubs as it had disintegrated.

I would like to put one in GU but waiting to confirm how long I'm staying here first. Will definitely be on my must have list for 4bys going forward.

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[Bloodyaussie]

Just an update.. I have ordered the Lokka brand locker and it should be a couple of weeks away, the new wheel and pinion bearing kit arrived last week and I also got a new return to centre steering dampener.

Cant wait to fit it all up and have a play!!!!

Just want to know why is there a run in period of 1000km??

[Ben-e-boy]

Just an update.. I have ordered the Lokka brand locker and it should be a couple of weeks away, the new wheel and pinion bearing kit arrived last week and I also got a new return to centre steering dampener.

Cant wait to fit it all up and have a play!!!!

Just want to know why is there a run in period of 1000km??

No meaning to rain on your parade. I have an RTC and hate it and will not buy another. A good adjustable one is the way to go

[Alitis007]

No meaning to rain on your parade. I have an RTC and hate it and will not buy another. A good adjustable one is the way to go

Why is that mate?? Do you loose feedback while your driving or does it fight against you when turning ?

[Ben-e-boy]

Why is that mate?? Do you loose feedback while your driving or does it fight against you when turning ?

No matter how many times I adjust the position of the sprimg after 4wding the spring itself moves and it ends up rubbing on the shock tube itself every time you turn the wheel at slow speeds ie car park, driveway etc.
When you are in oversteer and you want to let the steering wheel go an let the wheels position itself it will only return to centre, you need to steer the rest of it yourself. That's what is like with mine anyway

[Alitis007]

No matter how many times I adjust the position of the sprimg after 4wding the spring itself moves and it ends up rubbing on the shock tube itself every time you turn the wheel at slow speeds ie car park, driveway etc.
When you are in oversteer and you want to let the steering wheel go an let the wheels position itself it will only return to centre, you need to steer the rest of it yourself. That's what is like with mine anyway

Thats crap! Forget about drifting lol but the spring rubbing on the dampener does that affect the steering at all or just damage it?

[taslucas]

Why is that mate?? Do you loose feedback while your driving or does it fight against you when turning ?

I don't want an rtc either. A mate had one and removed it in favour of a tough dog adjustable. Another mate has one and doesn't like it. I find that unless your crawling slowly, the wheel returns to centre pretty easy anyway. Also I like my wheels to settle in their own tracks and I like to feel which way the ruts are trying to push you.
Similar to stepping the RX out on a corner I reckon George, if you floor it and let go of the wheel it returns to centre pretty quick

FanTapstic!

[threedogs]

Nah, avoid RTC , you'll be disappointed, M2cW
as Lucas says you lose feel for the road/track
You of all should know that BA from your green days. lol

[Alitis007]

I don't want an rtc either. A mate had one and removed it in favour of a tough dog adjustable. Another mate has one and doesn't like it. I find that unless your crawling slowly, the wheel returns to centre pretty easy anyway. Also I like my wheels to settle in their own tracks and I like to feel which way the ruts are trying to push you.
Similar to stepping the RX out on a corner I reckon George, if you floor it and let go of the wheel it returns to centre pretty quick

FanTapstic!

Nah the RX has Passive rear steering ( like a 911 carrera ) aswell and is is a totally different beast ( hair pins signed 35 you can go 70+ depending on tyres) when you hold it sideways for over 20m all 4 wheels point in the "forward" direction once you regain traction and then the car returns to a straight ahead position. Crap for skating but good for driving on a straight rd 30 degrees to the gutter lol.

But feeling the direction of the rut is what i mean by feedback or rd feel....

[Alitis007]

Thinking about what you guys have said, a RTC dampener enhances the effect of caster ( the reason you can ride your push bike with no hands) by using the force of the dampener and not the rear wheels...

[taslucas]

Thinking about what you guys have said, a RTC dampener enhances the effect of caster ( the reason you can ride your push bike with no hands) by using the force of the dampener and not the rear wheels...

Thus should probably go in another thread but no I dint think it's the same. With castor, the vehicle is sort or dragging the wheels strait but with rtc the wheels are getting pushed strait. Personaly I think it feels different in a mud/ruts kind of example. Also, rtc are pushing the wheels back to straight the same amount regardless of vehicle speed whereas castor straightening is relative to vehicle speed. Just my take on it

FanTapstic!

[Bloodyaussie]

Which one would you use??


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[healy]

Which one would you use??


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I got a tough dog rtc and it feels heavy and I don't like it could of saved $70 and just gone with a standard type
Mine is also scratched up from the spring moving yet to try it off road tho

[Bloodyaussie]

Well what one does every one use??

I had a Hilux with no power steering and these were brilliant on them to help make them drive-able at low speed .....

I bought it from a shop so can take it back..... any recommendations.

[Alitis007]

Think the guys where saying adjustable type but didn't ask what was adjustable..

[Sir Roofy]

Take it back you wont be happy with it and will cause you grief
then we,l have to listen to you about why you dont like it and
they wont accecpt your reason if used

dont listen to me but bene says its so

[Clunk]

I have a tough dog RTC and have to say, I don't mind it at all. Yes steering is a little heavier but I don't like light steering anyway. Gave experienced no loss of feeling through the steering either........ Would I buy another one? Probably not as they're a bitch to set up...

BA, it's another one if those products that you either like or hate and there's only one way to find out if its suits you

Don't slap it, tap it!!!!

[Sir Roofy]

i have a tough dog rtc and have to say, i don't mind it at all. Yes steering is a little heavier but i don't like light steering anyway. Gave experienced no loss of feeling through the steering either........ Would i buy another one? Probably not as they're a bitch to set up...

Ba, it's another one if those products that you either like or hate and there's only one way to find out if its suits you

don't slap it, tap it!!!!

your right clunk but the sort of country that ba plays in i dont think its the one for him

[NP99]

This is a very good DIY vid

http://youtu.be/llaqhUs8_yk

[Uncle Festa]

Especially female change room lockers!!

[patrolmq]

I've got auto lockers front and rear on my MQ, not sure what type as they were already in the axles, but they work well on the road, I can still apply power whilst going around a tight bend and they don't lock, but off road as soon as one wheel slips, they lock solid. Awesome things.

[Bloodyaussie]

5 fwarkin weeks and still no locker.

Buy Australian, bloody pisses me off that a car like a GQ I have to wait so long, not like its some odd make of car.

Could have bought the Spartan locker and had it here from the states in a week.

Just venting at the moment but really?

[growler2058]

Very popular model BA
Good things come to those who wait ;)


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[healy]

Some things take longer than expected but you will be pleased when you have it mate when I got mine it only took 2 days and I was told it would take 3 weeks lol

[threedogs]

Heres a Tough Dog RTC damper one year old
When Pro Locker first released they only did 75s and GQ
GU was up to series 2 then I think, 100s was out,

@ BA any reason for delay, would tick me off if wanted it fitted before a big trip
or similar

I just ordered a Pro locker for the front, fitting 2 gallon air tank
along chassis, happy days. plus big black pump. but I'm in no hurry to fit ATM

[Bloodyaussie]

Very popular model BA
Good things come to those who wait ;)


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Wise words oh great one!!!!

I just want it in my widdle hands.

[Winnie]

What good is it in your hands? Put it in your diff!

If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

[Bloodyaussie]

Just checked the link Winnie sent me for the Spartan locker as I am fed up and it is now $100 more than it was when I was tossing up buying it.. cant believe it!

I guess I am stuck waiting for the bloody 4wd systems one?

How much is that other brand one?

[threedogs]

Which one you want a price on???

[Stropp]

My spartan is in and has had two weekend tests now and is a good thing, only concern was on full lock with 2wd engaged and the hubs locked you can hear the locker ticking but only on full lock, took me a while to realise what the strange noise was.

[mudski]

I can't believe you still haven't got it. I would be asking for a refund by now. Not acceptable.

[Bloodyaussie]

I have the option of running auto hubs or staying with my manual locking hubs..... what is the better way to go with a locker!!!

[Winnie]

I have heard bad things about auto hubs with auto lockers.

If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

[patrolmq]

I've just had my first trip out in my MQ with front and rear auto lockers, which I believe are Aussie lockers or similar- they we already fitted into the axles on another MQ that I got parts off, but I opened up the front and it was identical to the Aussie locker). I have to say, they were ABSOLUTELY AWESOME. I really can't see any reason why you'd spend more on front and rear air locker, then have another 2 things to think about switching on and off.

On the road (in 2WD), there's virtually no difference in the driving. You can go around tight bends and roundabouts as normal, on or off the power as the lockers unlock when the outside wheel goes faster than the inside. There was no audible clicking either. Off road (in 4WD) they are the muts nuts! You don't have to think about them at all. Axle twisters and steep climbs become easy with almost no wheel slip. The only thing you notice is on tight, slippery, weaving tracks (where you are going slow anyway) is the steering isn't as responsive, but lift off the throttle for a second and it comes back, nice and easy. On tracks with reasonable traction you can still use 4WD where you'd normally do so. On normal roads, in 2WD, leaving the hubs locked in has no effect, so you don't have to unlock the hubs until the end of the day when you're back on the black top.

There were steep axle twisting climbs that I did at the weekend, that neither my Delica nor my last GQ patrol would have done (at least not without a struggle in the case of the GQ). The MQ with lockers just walked up.

Attached are a few pics of a decent climb, big diagonally opposite holes, loose dirt and weeks of rain, obviously you can't really see the steepness and holes from the photos, but after years of off-roading, I never thought I would make it up, but it did easily.

[growler2058]

See BA it'll be worth the wait ;)


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[Bloodyaussie]

I have heard bad things about auto hubs with auto lockers.

If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

Thank you winnie for caring!!!!!! he he!!!

Its not so much the wait Growler its being told one thing then another... then I can work towards a certain time frame...?

[Bloodyaussie]

So here is an update....... spoke to them on the phone and I think they are getting lots of calls from grumpy Patrol owners as he was at first very rude to me but after I explained certain things to him he started to suck up my ass and say that I was top of the list and blah blah..

At this stage from the way he was crapping on it might push the 2 month mark?

I just want to name and shame and I dont give a shit about how you ordered one and it turned up 2 days later as this is not my experience... 4wd systems blew smoke up my butt and continue to do so with more dribble.

I really am starting to think they are made in China ?

I paid cash nearly 2 months ago for something that was out of stock and was told 2-3 weeks and when I rang them at the 3 week mark they said they were just coming back from QLD and would be just one more week..... farkwin pigs ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4WD SYSTEMS CAN EAT A TURD AND I WILL NOT USE THIS COMPANY AGAIN!!!!

[Stropp]

begeez thats crap, i ordered my spartans from the usa and they were in wait awhile in 12 days which has to be some sort of record as it normally takes that long to come ex east, demand your money back and get the spartans mate.

[taslucas]

Thats so poor jonathan. Name and shame away.

[growler2058]

Dry ya eyes princess ;)
Two days THAT'S MY EXPERIENCE

[taslucas]

email them a link to this thread. It may help them realise how many people are watching their service record.......

[growler2058]

email them a link to this thread. It may help them realise how many people are watching their service record.......

X2........

[Drewboyaus]

Total rubbish mate. I would be demanding my money back, with interest.
I imagine you will be able to order a lock-rite, Detroit, spartan etc. and have it delivered from the USA before you see the product from 4WD systems.
Unbelievable they haven't even offered you your money back.
I for one will not be buying from them and I suspect neither will too many others from this forum.
Their name is now mud.


Tip tip tip......tap tap tap....

[growler2058]

DoNT GEt a DETROiT pig of a thing

[Drewboyaus]

DoNT GEt a DETROiT pig of a thing

What's wrong with a Detroit?


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[Bloodyaussie]

As I have stated a number of times now the spartan locker is now $100 more than when I ordered this frickin one.....

[growler2058]

What's wrong with a Detroit?


Tip tip tip......tap tap tap....

Very harsh operation

[Clunk]

I have the option of running auto hubs or staying with my manual locking hubs..... what is the better way to go with a locker!!!

I believe you need manual hubs to run auto lockers. I know all the gu owners in my club changed theres over when fitting the auto lockers

Tappin on the MC phone

[growler2058]

I believe you need manual hubs to run auto lockers. I know all the gu owners in my club changed theres over when fitting the auto lockers

Tappin on the MC phone

Yes that's my belief also

[Bloodyaussie]

Does not matter much as you need a fricking locker in the first place??

I came so close to buying that Spartan but with all the talk going on about certain vendors and stuff I thought buy Australian... I blame Growler!!!

He's not home right now maybe a quickly scoot over and take his one?

[Drewboyaus]

Very harsh operation

My understanding was the action was smoother than the cheaper versions with a little easier slip for steering.
I could be corrected though....


Tip tip tip......tap tap tap....

[Winnie]

Does not matter much as you need a fricking locker in the first place??

I came so close to buying that Spartan but with all the talk going on about certain vendors and stuff I thought buy Australian... I blame Growler!!!

He's not home right now maybe a quickly scoot over and take his one?

It would be quicker.

Trying to use Motorculture

[growler2058]

My understanding was the action was smoother than the cheaper versions with a little easier slip for steering.
I could be corrected though....


Tip tip tip......tap tap tap....

Yeah when I was looking it was explained to me they were the harshest of the lot

[Drewboyaus]

Yeah when I was looking it was explained to me they were the harshest of the lot

Shows how much BS the sales guys go on with.......


Tip tip tip......tap tap tap....

[growler2058]

Shows how much BS the sales guys go on with.......


Tip tip tip......tap tap tap....

No not sales guys
People who have them

[FNQGU]

I have a Detroit in the front of mine and love it. I would agree with other comments regarding the slight extra heaviness in the steering when under power, but otherwise I have absolute confidence in it. No harshness that i can identify. Also fitted the AVM Heavy Duty manual hubs. Was $699 from Just Differentials in the States.

Do air lockers not have a bit of heaviness in the steering under power?

[patrolmq]

My understanding was the action was smoother than the cheaper versions with a little easier slip for steering.
I could be corrected though....


Tip tip tip......tap tap tap....

my aussie lockers can be unlocked by rotating the wheel with just 1 finger, so very sensitive. There is no noise and nothing felt when cornering, locking or unlocking.

[mudski]

As I have stated a number of times now the spartan locker is now $100 more than when I ordered this frickin one.....
Dude. Ring them up and just tell them you want a refund. They can't refuse you a refund. They took your money, told you how long the wait is and its now double what they said. If they refuse too, tell them "I wonder what the ACCC will think of this when I tell them."

[Bloodyaussie]

I dont want my money I want a f£^king Locker..... all these others saying yeah just get one of these or one of those can put there hands in there pockets to come up with the extra cash........... Far in country basketballs

[Alitis007]

I dont want my money I want a f£^king Locker..... all these others saying yeah just get one of these or one of those can put there hands in there pockets to come up with the extra cash........... Far in country basketballs

How bout i take your money then and organize a big cuddle for ya ?

[growler2058]

Just get a more expensive one jonny and be done with it ;)

[Bloodyaussie]

Just get a more expensive one jonny and be done with it ;)

You wait till you get back.... I have a special cuddle waiting for you big boy!!!!!

[growler2058]

You wait till you get back.... I have a special cuddle waiting for you big boy!!!!!

Maaaaaaate I can get lotsa "special" cuddles here bwahahahahahaa

[Drewboyaus]

my aussie lockers can be unlocked by rotating the wheel with just 1 finger, so very sensitive. There is no noise and nothing felt when cornering, locking or unlocking.

I'm curious what its like under power going up a steeeeeep hill and steering or steeeeep downhill in slop.....


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[mudski]

The rate your going I will have an air locker in before you get your "Gunna" locker.

[88GQwithlift]

i hate auto lockers.. they let go or lock when not wanted.. love my e-lockers.. on/off at the flickof a switch..

[Bloodyaussie]

i hate auto lockers.. they let go or lock when not wanted.. love my e-lockers.. on/off at the flickof a switch..

That was not the question. .. thanks you going to buy me an e-locker??

[brw1994]

Still no locker BA?

[mudski]

I don't believe so...We would have heard about it if he had it I reckon.

[Bloodyaussie]

Canceled my order with these truckin idiots... air locker now ordered and can go and pick up anytime!!!!!

4wd systems can go eat a big fat fart.... not for it taking over 2 months but because you kept feeding me shit!!!!!!!

If they had been truthful I could have worked around it but the lies upon lies!!

[MudRunnerTD]

Bugger! Oh well!

Go the Air Locker!! Hell Yeah you did!

[Winnie]

Woohoo! When do you wanna install that air locker in my car? I'm free this weekend mate.

[Drewboyaus]

Canceled my order with these truckin idiots... air locker now ordered and can go and pick up anytime!!!!!

4wd systems can go eat a big fat fart.... not for it taking over 2 months but because you kept feeding me shit!!!!!!!

If they had been truthful I could have worked around it but the lies upon lies!!

Nice one! Pleased to hear its been sorted.


Tip tip tip......tap tap tap....

[growler2058]

Ahh well ya win some ya lose some
Another coupla buttons to glam up ya console now ;)


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[Bloodyaussie]

Ahh well ya win some ya lose some
Another coupla buttons to glam up ya console now ;)


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I'm Iceman!!!!!!

[growler2058]

I'm Iceman!!!!!!

Hahahahha see how ya finger eye foot coordination goes
Quick quick quick push the comp push lock noooo not yet quick quick turn it off bwahahahahahahahaa
And change gear NOW

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[Cuppa]

I reckon it was all a ploy. Go the cheap auto locker option pretend there are supply problems, & then let the wife conveniently find some unpaid accounts which just happen to cover the cost of an air locker. Very clever! LOL.

Cuppa.

ps. not that I know jack about lockers, but I reckon that 'on demand' has gotta be a better option than auto.
pps. And then I read Growlers last post........ always two sides to a story I guess.

[Bloodyaussie]

Hahahahha see how ya finger eye foot coordination goes
Quick quick quick push the comp push lock noooo not yet quick quick turn it off bwahahahahahahahaa
And change gear NOW

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Hey mate I raced for years and am a State Champion.... I think I can handle a button??? eerr hope no one is watching?????

[growler2058]

Hey mate I raced for years and am a State Champion.... I think I can handle a button??? eerr hope no one is watching?????

Matchbox cars don't count hahahahahahaha


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[Bloodyaussie]

I reckon it was all a ploy. Go the cheap auto locker option pretend there are supply problems, & then let the wife conveniently find some unpaid accounts which just happen to cover the cost of an air locker. Very clever! LOL.

Cuppa.

ps. not that I know jack about lockers, but I reckon that 'on demand' has gotta be a better option than auto.
pps. And then I read Growlers last post........ always two sides to a story I guess.

Thats funny Ian as I will be having a sucky conversation tonight!!!! Honey you know how it's my birthday next month?????

And Growler... Phillip Island 200kmh through turn one with your knee on the deck!!!!!!!

[93patrol]

good to see to got it sorted BA I am sure its a weight off your shoulders

[growler2058]

Pffftt only 2 wheels!


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[Bloodyaussie]

Just a different course mate..... pissed me off being treated like a sucker!!!!!!

Money spent elsewhere!!!!

Suck balls 4wd Systems!!!

[growler2058]

Mate if I'd been at home I woulda gone and told them
In person for you very poor form!!


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[Bloodyaussie]

Thanks mate....... and yes 2 wheels!!!!!!.... you want to see a photo of me looking so cool dont you!!

[growler2058]

Thanks mate....... and yes 2 wheels!!!!!!.... you want to see a photo of me looking so cool dont you!!

As long as I don't have to cuddle you!



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[Winnie]

Thanks mate....... and yes 2 wheels!!!!!!.... you want to see a photo of me looking so cool dont you!!

I do, could not imagine it. Same way as I could not imagine you being a jockey!!!

[Drewboyaus]

I do, could not imagine it. Same way as I could not imagine you being a jockey!!!

Jockey, bike racer......same-same!


Tip tip tip......tap tap tap....

[Alitis007]

Its funny, BA used to race but when i stretched gears with him in the car you would of thought he's never driven faster than 50km/h lmao

Bummer bout the auto locker tho mate but i rekon the air locker will be better for you and you will be much happier with it!

[Alitis007]

Jockey, bike racer......same-same!


Tip tip tip......tap tap tap....

Temporary australians i call them hahahaha

[Bloodyaussie]

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[Winnie]

You're not coming first in that last picture, state champ my ass!!!!
Very impressive though mate and something to be proud of for sure!

[Bloodyaussie]

Smart ass I have a trophy here that says Victorian champion 2008...

I also have a shit tonne more that are in a cardboard box in the garage because that's what happens when your life passes you by..... snifle!!!

[Winnie]

Oh okay I thought it was a lot longer ago that you lived that life. So in short, enjoy your air locker! LMAO are you going with ARB or another brand?

[MudRunnerTD]

200kmh into turn 1 is pretty ballsy. Looking good there mate. I was good for 1:59 around the island and was happy to be under 2mins.

Great track. Gutsy sport. Balls and All! Nice pics mate

[MudRunnerTD]

You're not coming first in that last picture, state champ my ass!!!!

That's the start grid ;) qualify second is pretty good going.

What class is the BA? Looks like 250s? Single front disk?

[Bloodyaussie]

That was 250 4-strokes and I was doing under 2 min at the Island on one...

I raced 600cc Supermonos (ex Isle of Man bike)and 900cc period racing on a Kawasaki Gpz 900r but the 250's were by far the most fun!!

Mine was a twin disc front and was lethal under brakes when I bothered to use them???

[growler2058]

Could be anyone in those pics!!


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[Winnie]

I was gonna say the same thing but that 2nd pic is definitely our Jonathan....... although people are pretty clever with photoshop nowadays......

[growler2058]

Can't tell on the phone could be any chump


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[Bloodyaussie]

No love at all. ......

[MudRunnerTD]

I got love for ya mate. They be pushing your buttons mate. LMFAO

[growler2058]

I LOVE stirring ya
But I won't give you a man hug I may squeezable ya head off ;)


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[Bloodyaussie]

I LOVE stirring ya
But I won't give you a man hug I may squeezable ya head off ;)


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Now thats a real man hug...

[Irish]

Yep, 4wd systems can go and perform an unnatural act on a rusty garbage disposal.

I've never seen such a lack of basic customer service in my life(never once picked up the phone to update on the delay, apologise or feck all).

Will never use them again and will make sure I let others know too.

All I know is they'd better refund the money paid in good faith.

[taslucas]

Can't tell on the phone could be any chump


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You can tell by the thumb growlers

motorculture sucks the big one

[growler2058]

Hahahahahahahahahahaha ya mean the big toe where a thumb should be hahahajanahaja
I love 4wd systems got my Lokka in 2 that's TWO days will go there again


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[Bloodyaussie]

Yes you will go back dragging your knuckles!!!!!!

[growler2058]

Should be in the happy thread I Spose but I LUV my LoKKa it's the neatest thing ever!!!!!!


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[growler2058]

Damn spellcheck that shoulda been bestest BESTEST thing EVA that's EVER!!!!


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[Bloodyaussie]

Pulled front and rear diffs out of the donor car today and will build the front up with all new bearing seals and new discs and brake pads...

Pick up Locker on Saturday... yahoo!!!!

[growler2058]

Pulled front and rear diffs out of the donor car today and will build the front up with all new bearing seals and new discs and brake pads...

Pick up Locker on Saturday... yahoo!!!!

Pity you couldn't hold out for a loKKa
Grip to goannawhere ;)


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[Bloodyaussie]

I cant wait till you come back as I am going to pop over the border and say G'day in a special way!!!!!

[growler2058]

31536
???????????


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[growler2058]

I got a loKKa
31537


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[Bloodyaussie]

He he he he he he he he he he he he he he!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

[growler2058]

How's this then Jonny
31542


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[Bloodyaussie]

Gold mate gold!!!!!!!

[growler2058]

What a high jack ay
31546


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[Irish]

Should change your name to Ned Kelly Growler, bloody thread hijacker, lol.


When I last rang 4wd systems I was told they had a list of about 60 people waiting on lockers. I couldn't help but wonder if they had not bothered to get in touch with any of those paying customers either. $368x60, thats over $22k in orders, very poor form.

[Bloodyaussie]

Cheers Pete so they have paid you back???

[threedogs]

@ BA you doing anything to Diff housing Like Welding on a pumpkin saver or laminating them?

[Bloodyaussie]

Nope..........................

[Irish]

Will have to wait til my next bill comes through BA, should know early next week.

[93patrol]

Can't link because I am on my phone but on gumtree in Perth there's someone selling front and rear lockers and centres for $1000


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[Bloodyaussie]

Got my locker today.... yippee!!!

Got the donor diff on the ground and will start cleaning it all up to get ready for fitment.

I will try to fit the wiring and compressor tomorrow so all that side is sorted and will try to remember to take plenty of pics!!!!

[MudRunnerTD]

Awesome Jonathan.

Now I predict you will have trouble with the included wiring loom because you only have a front locker. Give me a bell tomorrow mate and I will talk you through the alteration to the loom to fix the problem coming your way.

Simple fix

[Bloodyaussie]

I love problems mate, it helps with that knotted feeling in my guts and the headache!!!!

Been studying the fitment manual and had only a quick look at the loom but I just ripped out some more kitchen benches and dealing with a sick little boy who is as moody as they come so need some quiet time to go through it properly ?

[healy]

What locker did you get? Im confused reading this thread

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[Bloodyaussie]

Bit the bullet and got an air locker!!!!

[MudRunnerTD]

What locker did you get? Im confused reading this thread

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The man got an Airlocker!!! Hell yeah!!

[healy]

Tjm?

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[MudRunnerTD]

I think ARB

[healy]

Nice either way good stuff

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[mudski]

Awesome Jonathan.

Now I predict you will have trouble with the included wiring loom because you only have a front locker. Give me a bell tomorrow mate and I will talk you through the alteration to the loom to fix the problem coming your way.

Simple fix
No need to fix the loom Daz. Its the same as mine and the whole thing is plug and play. I has provisions for a dual locker but five minutes and I had worked out what wire goes where. Every wire is colour coded and you just follow the ARB installation pdf...

[MudRunnerTD]

Yeah it is pretty simple to sort out. BA if you have any trouble yell out bud, but pretty straight forward.

[growler2058]

Bit the bullet and got an air locker!!!!

Nob head! No wiring issues with a LoKKa man


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[Bloodyaussie]

Nob head! No wiring issues with a LoKKa man


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I am starting to feel unloved Growler... I know you wanted me to have the same locker as you so we could hold hands and giddily talk about our shared experiences with the auto locker but it was not to be!!!

I know from a little birdy that someone on here wishes they had gone the airlocker instead of the auto??? he he !!!! now go eat another prawn Growler..

[growler2058]

Some are shepherds some are sheep ;)


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[mudski]

Shut up BA!

[MudRunnerTD]

Hey BA the easiest way to deal with the loom mate it to just hook up the front locker through the rear locker wires as Zero change and Zero thought is needed.

Just tape the rest up. If you ever buy a rear locker the. Just swap the switch cover and swap the air hose on the solenoid.

Run a bridge wire across from the Air Compressor switch pin 3 to pin 2 on the front locker loom and your done anyways ;)

[Bloodyaussie]

So today I installed the loom and compressor and now have a fancy set of ARB switches... dont I feel special.

I have been preparing all the parts I took out of the donor car for the big install on Sunday and it will be a two for one offer as we will be doing Mudski's also, should be a good day.

Got new pads and discs and all new bearings and seals.. cant wait!!

Irish is coming around to help and George is doing most of the diff work as he is a control freak!!! he would not let me pull the donor diff apart today... ruins all my fun?

[mudski]

Yep I will be drinking my ass off tomorrow after work taking the front end apart. Then I have to go out at six'ish, drink more, then come home and continue on with the fun and games. Then after Sunday morning with the Three Amigo's I have to get it all back together for work on Monday. Gonna be hectic. Gawd I hope this all goes to plan.

Did I say drinking? I meant working...

[Rustyboner81]

For those that cant afford to spend big $$ on air lockers or that have air lockers further down their list of priorities and would like to do harder tracks without tearing up tracks, shredding exspensive tyres or damaging there truck my advice to you is.....

Get a lokka delivered for around $370 and take a day to fit it yourself and enjoy your new capabillities.

You dont notice it much. Except when your mates all wheels up the air going nowhere and denting panels your already through... doesnt take the fun out

[Rustyboner81]

This post is NA

[threedogs]

Must remember a Locker of any description will not make you unstoppable it will how ever get you bogged further down any track you thought possible
Completely different driving style as well, for the better

[Bloodyaussie]

For those that cant afford to spend big $$ on air lockers or that have air lockers further down their list of priorities and would like to do harder tracks without tearing up tracks, shredding exspensive tyres or damaging there truck my advice to you is.....

Get a lokka delivered for around $370 and take a day to fit it yourself and enjoy your new capabillities.

You dont notice it much. Except when your mates all wheels up the air going nowhere and denting panels your already through... doesnt take the fun out
Yeah just be prepared to wait 10 weeks for the f$%king thing!!!!!!!

4wd Systems can eat my shorts!!!

So today I spent running around getting stuff ready for tomorrow... me and Mudski will be doing our lockers together holding hands and cuddling now and then with George watching...??

I have had my calipers rebuilt, new discs, all new bearings and seals and so on.

Pressed on the bearings for the locker today and greased up all the bearings.. just have a few small things to do in the morning including pulling out the diff center but will wait for the boys to get here so I dont hurt myself.

I am sort of enjoying this one as I am not just doing a patch job but giving all parts related a good overhaul .

Stay tuned for tomorrows results.

[Rustyboner81]

Im not claiming they make you invincable your right, you gotta use judgement soft beaches and bog holes if your gonna get bogged your gonna get bogged even your air lockers wont help, tyre type, pressures and experiance are what counts there.

But at places like the powerline line track when your half way up a climb all crossed losing traction they are priceless.
I dont need to be convinced i have pushed it too its limits and it way better than no lokka.

When im ready and cashed up i will invest in propper air/electric lockers but untill then i have no worry recommending these fantastic tools.

And yeah i waited 6 weeks for mine to turn up. I was on the phone giving them a mouthfull when the courier turned up with it.

[Drewboyaus]

So do you want me to bring beer?


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[mudski]

So do you want me to bring beer?


Tip tip tip......tap tap tap....
As long as its the "wife beater". Yes!

[Bloodyaussie]

Bit sore and tired but to day should be good..... locker here we come!!!!!

[taslucas]

Bit sore and tired but to day should be good..... locker here we come!!!!!

So your finally getting around to fitting it? What have you been doing for the last 3 months!?? Geez your slack mate!

Lmao

[growler2058]

Agree with Lucas
And wouldn't it be a better idea to have a go at starting a thread not in the auto locker thread derrrrrrr ;)


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[Drewboyaus]

As long as its the "wife beater". Yes!

As it turns out it is a slab of 'Beater......


Tip tip tip......tap tap tap....