Suggestion for a new forum

[NP99]

AB and moderators
I would appreciate some feedback on this idea for a forum or sub forum.
I belong to an American motorbike forum which in ways is very similar to this one with many similarities in personalities. They have a sub forum called the hotbox and you have to apply to gain access to it, therefore it keeps those that are easily offended safely away. It still gets moderated but the rules are relaxed up a little. Is it worth trialling?
Cheers

[AB]

Ive actually thought about this before, a section that only "Forum Sponsors" can see which is a bit more relaxed in "some" ways.

However, I never went ahead with it as I never wanted this forum to turn into a place where people could abuse each other, not that it would be like that but the targeted audience for this website is males aged 20-40 so a separate private section was thought of for blokes to talk blokey things I guess....lol

[mudski]

Ah kinda like a "Pub" sub section on another forum I'm a member of. The only rule they have is what is said in the pub, stays in the pub. Good idea but people will still get their back up out of the sub forum and it will carry into the family forum. Very hard one to moderate I would think.

Need a NSFW sub section IMO. Where bewbs can be seen :)

[MEGOMONSTER]

It'll work for me, as it seems I often offend. Lol

[NP99]

Thanks guys, it sounds like we are on the same sheet of music. Moderating seems to be the hard bit.

[Woof]

I do not think that it would be such a good idea, as it will have to be moderated the same as the current one done to the fact that we will still get families viewing it as well.
It always great to see suggestions on how to improve our forum coming though.

[growler2058]

How willthat effect the google rating. We also seen what happened to another trol forum that got a nasty virus from dodgy links etc

[Wine_maker]

Threat for sh!t boiling?

[DX grunt]

A moderated free website. How good is that? PML

[growler2058]

A moderated free website. How good is that? PML

Head on over to the intro section stranger

[NP99]

I do not think that it would be such a good idea, as it will have to be moderated the same as the current one done to the fact that we will still get families viewing it as well.
It always great to see suggestions on how to improve our forum coming though.

If set up correctly, no one can see it unless they request to join it, so it becomes family safe.

[Winnie]

Can only see it ending bady.


If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

[growler2058]

Can only see it ending bady.


If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

Whats a bady?

[NP99]

How willthat effect the google rating. We also seen what happened to another trol forum that got a nasty virus from dodgy links etc

Is this site safe from dodgy links? If so then adding another sub forum should not be a problem. Not trying to be smart, just chasing solutions.

[DX grunt]

Seriously,

I'm quite happy to leave the Forum as it is.

AB and the moderators are providing a 'free service' to the NP community, and we should respect the unpaid voluntary hours they commit - daily - to making it as FF as possible.

Well done, people.

[NP99]

Can only see it ending bady.


If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

It would be optional to subscribe to, keeping it in the sub forum and not allowing it to spill out to family friendly is the trick. Those not up to the heat of debate don't have to enter. A bit like tv, switch channels if you don't like it.

[Winnie]

Whats a bady?

You're the only baddy around here!


If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

[Winnie]

It would be optional to subscribe to, keeping it in the sub forum and not allowing it to spill out to family friendly is the trick. Those not up to the heat of debate don't have to enter. A bit like tv, switch channels if you don't like it.

Conversations will get heated, no doubt about it. Been on other forums withs sections like it and think we are far better off without it.


If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

[NP99]

Seriously,

I'm quite happy to leave the Forum as it is.

AB and the moderators are providing a 'free service' to the NP community, and we should respect the unpaid voluntary hours they commit - daily - to making it as FF as possible.

Well done, people.

Agreed, they do a thankless great job. But, we are only talking about a sub forum, moderated with a few less rules that you have to subscribe to, in order to see or discuss anything. Regardless, AB is the boss and I'm happy to follow his rules.

[Winnie]

What is the point? It will only subtract from the main general forum with more swearing. Why?


If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

[mudski]

...Those not up to the heat of debate don't have to enter. A bit like tv, switch channels if you don't like it.
The more I think about it the more I am turning away from the idea. If you want a debate, head over to the other forum. There always debates going on there. Maybe we should just have a sub forum link to the "other side", if you feel up for an argument.

[DX grunt]

Agreed, they do a thankless great job. But, we are only talking about a sub forum, moderated with a few less rules that you have to subscribe to, in order to see or discuss anything. Regardless, AB is the boss and I'm happy to follow his rules.

I'm not disagreeing and respect your point of view. I know that volunteering does become an expectation, in many cases. I'm sure life is full on for AB and many, if not all, of the mods.

To me it's another job AB or a moderator has to do. Sorry to say that, but I've been there and done that.

You can share my campfire anytime, too.

Rossco

[taslucas]

Conversations will get heated, no doubt about it. Been on other forums withs sections like it and think we are far better off without it.


If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

Have to agree.

Basically sounds like setting up a section just to argue in. If two people disagree on something does one of them then say "ok lets settle this in the hot box section where we can swear at each other"?
There's so many places on the net where you can easily have a slinging match, look at p0rn or be rude and crude. In my opinion this forum doesn't need it. I'm in no way offended by any of the above but I don't think it needs to be on this forum in particular.


FanTapstic!

[NP99]

What is the point? It will only subtract from the main general forum with more swearing. Why?


If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

Maybe, maybe not, it's all optional and if it did detract that's how it is! By the same token, if it died.....thats how it is. The point is, some people like an area where you can have a more robust discussion, others don't and that's fine, that's why it's subscribe only optional

[growler2058]

Winnie, Lucas Nisshead and others know that when i wanna abuse them i PM them hahahahhahaa

[Winnie]

some people like an area where you can have a more robust discussion

PMs are great for that.


If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

[Maxhead]

Winnie, Lucas Nisshead and others know that when i wanna abuse them i PM them hahahahhahaa

Yeah, we get abused by this mod all the time :( BWAHAHHAHA

[growler2058]

Yeah, we get abused by this mod all the time :( BWAHAHHAHA

Dry ya eyes princess


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[taslucas]

Yeah, we get abused by this mod all the time :( BWAHAHHAHA

Just do what I do nisshead, watch the chilli eating vid again and you'll be laughing at him in no time! Haha

FanTapstic!

[NP99]

There are a lot of valid comments provided by you guys, appreciate that. While I don't agree with you, I'm running solo on this issue and it at least gives AB food for thought.
Cheers

[Maxhead]

Just do what I do nisshead, watch the chilli eating vid again and you'll be laughing at him in no time! Haha

FanTapstic!


Hahaha, yeah I just think of that clown and start pi55ing myself laughing!!! Bwahahahahahah!!!!!

[Bloodyaussie]

Dont like the idea myself...... there is enough of that crap in the world and I want to go somewhere that is not rude and argumentative/?

[growler2058]

Hahaha, yeah I just think of that clown and start pi55ing myself laughing!!! Bwahahahahahah!!!!!

Good onya
I think about you and punch myself in the face


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[NP99]

Dont like the idea myself...... there is enough of that crap in the world and I want to go somewhere that is not rude and argumentative/?

And that's why these sub forums are subscribe only, so that you are not exposed to it if you don't want to be.

[trekster]

Need a NSFW sub section IMO. Where bewbs can be seen :)


*Ahem* Missed the important point here guys, I underlined, italics'd and made it bold for you all :D

[NissanGQ4.2]

Good luck in getting a new sub section, I've been waiting on a few new sub sections to be done for months and months and months now......

Personally don't see the need for it, its a Nissan Patrol forum after all and if we all can't talk about our trolls and related topics without getting into a slang match with each other.........well this forum might not be the place to be

[growler2058]

*Ahem* Missed the important point here guys, I underlined, italics'd, coloured and made it bold for you all :D

I don't get it :(


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[NP99]

I don't get it :(


Sent from the crapper while on tappa

Boobs.......

[NP99]

Good luck in getting a new sub section, I've been waiting on a few new sub sections to be done for months and months and months now......

Personally don't see the need for it, its a Nissan Patrol forum after all and if we all can't talk about our trolls and related topics without getting into a slang match with each other.........well this forum might not be the place to be

You are right, it won't happen, but it was worth investigating! It's like asking a question and evaluating the responses.

[NissanGQ4.2]

Need a NSFW sub section IMO. Where bewbs can be seen :)


Boobs.......

As much as I don't mind a few pics posted from Pearcy when the Clipsal is on of some hot looking women, this is a four wheel drive forum not a porn site and is no need for boobs here, Plenty of porn sites out there if you want to look at boobs

[trekster]

I don't get it :(


Get back in your corner and eat another chilli :bananarock:

[growler2058]

Boobs.......

Ahhhhhhh


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[trekster]

Ahhhhhhh


*insert* facepalm emoticon here.....

[growler2058]

Get back in your corner and eat another chilli :bananarock:

Actually wife's auntie gave me some of her homegrown to try 7/10............pffft was like capsicum ate me all straight


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[growler2058]

*insert* facepalm emoticon here.....

Can't on tap n crap


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[NP99]

As much as I don't mind a few pics posted from Pearcy when the Clipsal is on of some hot looking women, this is a four wheel drive forum not a porn site and is no need for boobs here, Plenty of porn sites out there if you want to look at boobs

For the same reason I wouldn't expect Patrols at a porn site. I never said I wanted boobs on this site (women's breasts or idiots)

[Cuppa]

'If it ain't broke don't fix it' is what comes to mind for me. I don't know quite how a separate 'less moderated' section might impact on the rest of the forum, but I do think it is a possibility that it could. It is often said around here that this forum stands out from the rest & I agree that it is a far better forum than many, & wouldn't want to see this put at risk in order for folks to be able to 'kick up' a bit.

Cuppa

[trekster]

What growler thinks he does:
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/04/4.jpg

What growler wants us to think he does
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/04/5.jpg

what growler's wife thinks he does
http://www.bangkokpost.com/media/content/20120518/389245.jpg



What we know growler does
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/04/6.jpg

[healy]

I'm on this forum to avoid that stuff the other forum I'm sure they would be happy to abuse you if that's what you want but I don't see the point really of a sub forum and if its not about the abuse, nudes or any of the other stuff that's not on this forum then what's the point of a sub forum

[NP99]

'If it ain't broke don't fix it' is what comes to mind for me. I don't know quite how a separate 'less moderated' section might impact on the rest of the forum, but I do think it is a possibility that it could. It is often said around here that this forum stands out from the rest & I agree that it is a far better forum than many, & wouldn't want to see this put at risk in order for folks to be able to 'kick up' a bit.

Cuppa

Good comment Cuppa, but I think 'If it ain't broke don't fix it'is not for me, I enjoy the challenges of change. (Not being smart)

[NP99]

I'm on this forum to avoid that stuff the other forum I'm sure they would be happy to abuse you if that's what you want but I don't see the point really of a sub forum and if its not about the abuse, nudes or any of the other stuff that's not on this forum then what's the point of a sub forum

Mate, I don't want abuse, far from it......
Sometimes being in a pub is better than the bistro......

[healy]

Mate, I don't want abuse, far from it......
Sometimes being in a pub is better than the bistro......

I understand that who wants to be abused lol I just don't get it then. You talking language restrictions?

[NP99]

I understand that who wants to be abused lol I just don't get it then. You talking language restrictions?

As we would talk in a pub :)

[Cuppa]

some people like an area where you can have a more robust discussion, others don't and that's fine, that's why it's subscribe only optional

I quite enjoy a 'robust discussion' & see no reason why this cannot occur on the forum as it is, provided said robust discussion remains respectful & focuses on the issue being discussed & not on the individuals doing the discussing.

Cuppa

[NP99]

I quite enjoy a 'robust discussion' & see no reason why this cannot occur on the forum as it is, provided said robust discussion remains respectful & focuses on the issue being discussed & not on the individuals doing the discussing.

Cuppa

I have seen and read your discussions. They are well thought out, concise and knowledgable. Your posts play the ball never the man.

[MudRunnerTD]

OK i have just read this thread in one sitting as it is laid out over the 6 pages.

I have thanked those that made the most sense along the way.

I simply see no reason why we would need a Sub Forum for a "Pub Like" discussion. Our members get along very well. if there is an issue then it goes into a pm and these pages are left alone while that happens. The Chat feature in this forum is rarely used and i dont see the point. As it stands every thread is a Chat thread for this lot anyway so why on earth would we want a Closed Doors section.

The Mods have a Closed Door section and even we rarely use it. occasionally we need to discuss something and it is just easier than a group pm.

It seems that what your actually chasing is a Relaxed rules area?? Well the Rules are simple and a Fundamental for this forum and probably why this is such a great place with a Great bunch of guys.

A Sub Section as you describe would be a Floor in our Forum rather than a Feature and i just cant see why we would want to Reinvent the wheel when it is doing so well.

As it stands our members behave very well and there is little need to Moderate as it were. But sometimes for the good of the threadd and or forum we need to step in and have a quiet word. NOT VERY OFTEN.

This is a Great Place just the way it is i reckon. ;)

[NP99]

As I said earlier.......
I'm out numbered and accept AB's decision as he mentioned at the start
It was good to see/hear what the members want
Happy for the mods to close this topic off.

[megatexture]

No harm done mate we all want this forum to be at its best and welcome all sugestions.
I was the one that suggested the live chat "chatbox" to ab a while back as it worked a treat on another forum, it hasn't quite caught on here for some reason but I know how your thinking however I think I'm with the majority on this one as I can see it putting tension between people and spilling into the family forum.

[NP99]

No harm done mate we all want this forum to be at its best and welcome all sugestions.
I was the one that suggested the live chat "chatbox" to ab a while back as it worked a treat on another forum, it hasn't quite caught on here for some reason but I know how your thinking however I think I'm with the majority on this one as I can see it putting tension between people and spilling into the family forum.

Thanks mate, I have a couple of other ideas ill put forward later on.
Cheers

[Clunk]

As I said earlier.......
I'm out numbered and accept AB's decision as he mentioned at the start
It was good to see/hear what the members want
Happy for the mods to close this topic off.

It's not a case of being out numbered mate it's just a case of what works for this forum and why people come back to it on a daily basis.

As I've said before, there are other threads that we can run amuck in, with out the need for a sub forum. Yes we still adhere to the forum rules but maybe test the boundaries from time to time.

I like your idea an in no way knocking it, just don't think it's required.

Don't stroke it, TAP it!!!!.....

[cgm]

I'm more of an "onlooker" than a participant. Don't seem to find the time some of you muster up, but I still like to drop by when I can. Mostly just enjoy reading the banter and make a mental note of some of those special ideas that I'll come back to and find with the search one day.

Obviously found the forum on google looking for something specific, but it was the fam friendly or maybe just plain friendly attitude that made me think of hanging around. I like that it's not just loud and crude, but can still be a lot of fun.

There must be many others like me that hang around the edges for the same reason. It's still good to think about "why?", but leave it like it is I reckon.

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[threedogs]

Just wonder if this was an April Fools Thread, I did

[Bob]

the targeted audience for this website is males aged 20-40 l

Well I meet one of those criteria but appear to be discriminated against because of my Age
and it discriminates against the fairer Sex

Perhaps there should be a new Sub Section for us silly old buggars

RAFLMAO

[Cuppa]

Perhaps there should be a new Sub Section for us silly old buggars


Wouldn't that be a Sob section? :D

[taslucas]

Well I meet one of those criteria but appear to be discriminated against because of my Age
and it discriminates against the fairer Sex

Perhaps there should be a new Sub Section for us silly old buggars

RAFLMAO

Youve got the thought for the day section all to yourself Bob;-)

FanTapstic!

[threedogs]

Know where we sit now Bob.
We dont fit the Criteria lol

[Bob]

Wouldn't that be a Sob section? :D

That is good Cuppa and perhaps within that section a further sub-section CRAFT (And I am not explaining that)

[taslucas]

That is good Cuppa and perhaps within that section a further sub-section CRAFT (And I am not explaining that)

I think I know what that is but I can't remember???

FanTapstic!

[Cowboy]

On another forum of which I am an ADMIN on, we did have a Closed Chat Section, just for members, as being a public forum just like this one, needed to be closed off.
It worked well for sometime, but started to get out of hand and Moderation of that section was becoming constant as constant breach's of our ToU's were happening. With that, we as Admin were not keeping up with the moderation of the overall Forum and so we decided to close down that part of the forum.
That was a hard decision and some of the usual members chucked a wobbly, but to be honest, it has now been a year down the track that we closed off that section and the overal forum is a much better place for everyone concerned and now runnin gmuch smoother. We Admin have just over 12800 members in our forum and is growing at an average rate at the moment of 8 new members per day.

A seperate section is worth looking at, but very strict ToU's would need to be put in place and enforced, to try and keep the peace. Also you need to think about the Administrators extra work load.
What the Admin here could do is get a couple of Moderators (dedicated members) set up to just look after it for them.

Now, where did those grey hairs go this time..... Good luck......

[Bloodyaussie]

On another forum of which I am an ADMIN on, we did have a Closed Chat Section, just for members, as being a public forum just like this one, needed to be closed off.
It worked well for sometime, but started to get out of hand and Moderation of that section was becoming constant as constant breach's of our ToU's were happening. With that, we as Admin were not keeping up with the moderation of the overall Forum and so we decided to close down.
That was a hard decision and some of the usual members chucked a wobbly, but to be honest, it has now been a year down the track that we closed off that section and the overal forum is a much better place for everyone concerned and now runnin gmuch smoother. We Admin have just over 12800 members in our forum and is growing at an average rate at the moment of 8 new members per day.

A seperate section is worth looking at, but very strict ToU's would need to be put in place and enforced, to try and keep the peace. Also you need to think about the Administrators extra work load.
What the Admin here could do is get a couple of Moderators (dedicated members) set up to just look after it for them.

Now, where did those grey hairs go this time..... Good luck......

There you have it first hand.... I was talking to the guys the other day about this very topic and I like that it is not a shit fight and we are mostly a happy bunch!!!

Can we can this topic now???

[AB]

Yep, some great comments here, appreciate it!

I never went ahead with it back then because of a lot of what was said here. Fear it would flow into the forum and just a lot more work involved.

[Sir Roofy]

maybe, maybe not, it's all optional and if it did detract that's how it is! By the same token, if it died.....thats how it is. The point is, some people like an area where you can have a more robust discussion, others don't and that's fine, that's why it's subscribe only optional

this forum speaks for its self,the membership has increased ten fold recently over the past year
so im thinking that they are not looking for a robost discussion its f/f and thats why there comming
over here to discuse four wheel drives,have discussions about 4x4s get to know other people hence meetups and trips
and treks around the country,sorry mate but i dont think this forum needs to be more robust
we saw what happened to the other robust forum i wouldnt like to see it happen here

[NP99]

this forum speaks for its self,the membership has increased ten fold recently over the past year
so im thinking that they are not looking for a robost discussion its f/f and thats why there comming
over here to discuse four wheel drives,have discussions about 4x4s get to know other people hence meetups and trips
and treks around the country,sorry mate but i dont think this forum needs to be more robust
we saw what happened to the other robust forum i wouldnt like to see it happen here

Yes, mate............its a dead duck, the members have spoken, and thats what its all about :)

[Sir Roofy]

on another forum of which i am an admin on, we did have a closed chat section, just for members, as being a public forum just like this one, needed to be closed off.
It worked well for sometime, but started to get out of hand and moderation of that section was becoming constant as constant breach's of our tou's were happening. With that, we as admin were not keeping up with the moderation of the overall forum and so we decided to close down that part of the forum.
That was a hard decision and some of the usual members chucked a wobbly, but to be honest, it has now been a year down the track that we closed off that section and the overal forum is a much better place for everyone concerned and now runnin gmuch smoother. We admin have just over 12800 members in our forum and is growing at an average rate at the moment of 8 new members per day.

A seperate section is worth looking at, but very strict tou's would need to be put in place and enforced, to try and keep the peace. Also you need to think about the administrators extra work load.
What the admin here could do is get a couple of moderators (dedicated members) set up to just look after it for them.

Now, where did those grey hairs go this time..... Good luck......

but if it didnt work on your forum its not going to work here,and why would the mods want the extra responsabilty
of taking on more work as it is i feel they are over loaded now

[Cowboy]

but if it didnt work on your forum its not going to work here,and why would the mods want the extra responsabilty
of taking on more work as it is i feel they are over loaded now

Hey Roofy,
You obviously didn't get the 'Tongue in Cheek' response.......
Do you think AB is nuts... to even think about it any further.............hehe... I hope not.....(nuts that is)...... :)

Cheers

Rick