View Full Version : GQ Auxiliary tank and long range ok?
Drewboyaus
13th February 2013, 05:48 PM
Hi guys,
Been looking at installing more fuel capacity with a view to a couple of long range trips in the planning for the next couple of years (lord knows you can never have too much fuel in a TB42E). I intend to try and pick up a second hand LRA 75L aux tank to go with my existing 147L long range one. Are there any issues I need to be aware of?
It seems that there are a couple of different ways of doing the install and the one I prefer is to have one supply and return from each tank rather than pumping from one to the other. Any thoughts on this method? Does anyone have any installation instructions (from LRA or similar) that I could follow or get some ideas from?
Cheers,
Drew.
threedogs
13th February 2013, 05:55 PM
PM sent Drew.
My aux was $700 for my 75ltr Aux tank installed while I waited
That was the system in my T*&^%PY just press which tank you want to use
Drewboyaus
13th February 2013, 09:38 PM
That's a good price! Thanks mate, just replied to your pm.
Tip tip tip......tap tap tap....
lhurley
13th February 2013, 09:51 PM
PM sent Drew.
My aux was $700 for my 75ltr Aux tank installed while I waited
That was the system in my T*&^%PY just press which tank you want to use
Where abouts from mate? if you dont mind me asking
BigRAWesty
13th February 2013, 10:01 PM
TD, something you may be able to help with.
The patrols have a fuel pump upfront. So am I right is saying all we need is a pick up / level sender and a solenoid to switch between tanks?
Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)
Drewboyaus
13th February 2013, 10:05 PM
Kallen, I think you need a 6 way valve or something....
There's not a lot if info about on how to pull it all together out there on the interwebs
Tip tip tip......tap tap tap....
BigRAWesty
13th February 2013, 10:29 PM
Kallen, I think you need a 6 way valve or something....
There's not a lot if info about on how to pull it all together out there on the interwebs
Tip tip tip......tap tap tap....
Your spot on there mate. A 6 way valve though.. I might need to do more digging. Havent read that bit. But I can't think why either. Maybe someone could explain a bit more..
Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)
Drewboyaus
13th February 2013, 10:43 PM
I think from the bits I have pieced together, it allows a fuel supply and return line for each tank so you can pump from either one. Otherwise you have to pump from the aux to the main tank which looses some of the benefit of having the two tanks (better than carrying a bunch of jerrys but not by much).
Tip tip tip......tap tap tap....
BigRAWesty
13th February 2013, 11:05 PM
Yea good point. I'll dig some more
Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)
MudRunnerTD
13th February 2013, 11:41 PM
I think your trying too hard Drew. As 3Dogs stated the Tojo is a Completely different setup. From factory their fuel supply allows the engine to be supplied from either tank. when on the sub you are literally on the sub tank.
The Nissan setup is designed to only draw from the rear main tank. the Sub tank sender has a Transfer pump in it that transfers to the main tank. You will need a dual filler neck and a individual Breather for each but the transfer is done via a pump to the main tank.
Simple enough and effective.
BigRAWesty
14th February 2013, 12:10 AM
I can't believe I'm saying this but I'm gunna copy the toyo setup... I like to have both separate..
Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)
Clunk
14th February 2013, 01:20 AM
I can't believe I'm saying this but I'm gunna copy the toyo setup... I like to have both separate..
Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)
You could have said you'll copy the old Jaguar set up, the old xj6's and xj12's used to have dual tanks, separate fillers and a switch on the dash to change to what ever tank you wanted to draw from.
Don't stroke it, TAP it!!!!.....
BigRAWesty
14th February 2013, 04:53 AM
Well a bit more searching.. 6 port valve, $170... Seems the go for an easy setup..
Just need to find the extended pickup and float setups then its on to building some tanks...
Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)
Drewboyaus
17th February 2013, 08:23 PM
Sweet.....picked myself up a 73L LRA belly tank for $150.....with EFI fuel pump and sender!
Tip tip tip......tap tap tap....
Drewboyaus
17th February 2013, 08:30 PM
Well a bit more searching.. 6 port valve, $170... Seems the go for an easy setup..
Just need to find the extended pickup and float setups then its on to building some tanks...
Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)
So Kallen,
Have you worked out what the design needs to look like to draw from each tank separately?
I'm trying to work out the best way to deal with the fuel gauge? I've been wondering if the factory gauge can be switched between the tanks.....eg: when you flick the switch to swap tanks, it also changes the gauge reading to suit....
Tip tip tip......tap tap tap....
Winnie
17th February 2013, 08:32 PM
Don't see why not, as it can be done with dual fuel when you flick the switch.
MudRunnerTD
17th February 2013, 08:49 PM
An LRA belly tank went for $53 yesterday on eBay. No sender. Bargain!
Drewboyaus
17th February 2013, 09:01 PM
An LRA belly tank went for $53 yesterday on eBay. No sender. Bargain!
Damit! LOL.
One also sold for 350 a couple of days ago....pretty random.
Better than 1G any day though.
Tip tip tip......tap tap tap....
BigRAWesty
21st February 2013, 02:09 PM
So Kallen,
Have you worked out what the design needs to look like to draw from each tank separately?
I'm trying to work out the best way to deal with the fuel gauge? I've been wondering if the factory gauge can be switched between the tanks.....eg: when you flick the switch to swap tanks, it also changes the gauge reading to suit....
Tip tip tip......tap tap tap....
Yea, a 6 port valve can be found for sub $200 here is aus.
And for the fuel gauge, I think it would be as simple as getting a 6 post switch. One side for the valve and one for the gauge, you just need to tap into the original line and connect the new sender in appropriate points..
But the. Was thinking maybe 2 separate gauges so you can keep an eye on all tanks at all times..
Just incase one gets a leak. You could also plug in a 2 way pump incase you get a puncher you can pump fuel either way.. possible another $100 to set up..
Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)
ChrisN
21st February 2013, 09:49 PM
Just for info, here's the LRA instructions for fitting the belly tank (fitted to my GQ TD 42). The transfer pump arrangement works fine and is pretty simple to set up and trouble-shoot.
Drewboyaus
21st February 2013, 10:11 PM
Just for info, here's the LRA instructions for fitting the belly tank (fitted to my GQ TD 42). The transfer pump arrangement works fine and is pretty simple to set up and trouble-shoot.
Thanks Chris, you are a champion!
BigRAWesty
17th May 2014, 10:00 PM
Thread dig..
Where did these setup plans go??
Drewboyaus
17th May 2014, 10:08 PM
Thread dig.. Where did these setup plans go??
Westy, I ended up downloading them and emailing to AB (so they didn't get lost in the forum). I think he has posted them up in the manuals section.
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