View Full Version : What do you think Bargain or a scam?
Benno7
20th January 2013, 07:21 PM
A 2004 GU TD42T for $17,500.00
My money is on a scam of some sorts.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2004-NISSAN-PATROL-GU-III-ST-4-2L-Turbo-Diesel-manual-7-seat-wagon-/281052552464?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item4170099d10&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_1288
Winnie
20th January 2013, 07:23 PM
Just gave them a call and it just rang out. No voice mail. Not a good sign
nissannewby
20th January 2013, 07:26 PM
It has the vin number on the ad so would be easy to work out.
growler2058
20th January 2013, 07:26 PM
Absolute bargain if it isnt a scam
Ben-e-boy
20th January 2013, 07:30 PM
if i wasnt at work i would go there now to look
nissannewby
20th January 2013, 07:34 PM
Yep I'm hearing you Ben-e if I had 17k I would already be driving it home
NissanGQ4.2
20th January 2013, 07:34 PM
Not sure mate, but I can tell you in Nissan Fast the VIN number supplied matches the description of the car, just looked it up
Winnie
20th January 2013, 08:03 PM
I'm trying to call him. I will go to the bank tomorrow and fly up this week to buy it if all is good. Come home, sell it for 30+ and buy a super GQ!!
threedogs
20th January 2013, 08:12 PM
My 2 cents worth is it has a reserve on it and hasn't been reached yet? Is it a car yard?????????
Don't mind those headlight protectors either, yawl like me have been sucked in, thats his starting price res around $32K
Bloodyaussie
20th January 2013, 08:14 PM
There is no bloody way........... I just cant see it.
Every time I have seen something like this on ebay it always turns out to be not as it seems or a flat out scam?????
growler2058
20th January 2013, 08:14 PM
Think that's a buy it now price
Poo if ya get it its worth 45k
NissanGQ4.2
20th January 2013, 08:22 PM
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MudRunnerTD
20th January 2013, 08:33 PM
I reckon its fake. There is way too much detail in the add suggesting that he knows a fair bit about the GUIV TD42Ti and i doubt very much that he knows them and doesn't know that that is a $40k+ car in a heart beat. It has 79,000kms on it!!
Fake for sure!
MudRunnerTD
20th January 2013, 08:40 PM
Can anyone tell me what the Bright Blue box is in the second last pic of the engine bay near where the second battery would go?
PMC
20th January 2013, 08:57 PM
Can anyone tell me what the Bright Blue box is in the second last pic of the engine bay near where the second battery would go?
G'day MudRunnerTD,
Looks like one of those anti-rust protection units!
Regards,
RLI
jack
20th January 2013, 09:02 PM
I'll bet the seller will be blown away by the number of people who have added this to their 'watch' list.
nissannewby
20th January 2013, 10:57 PM
I reckon its fake. There is way too much detail in the add suggesting that he knows a fair bit about the GUIV TD42Ti and i doubt very much that he knows them and doesn't know that that is a $40k+ car in a heart beat. It has 79,000kms on it!!
Fake for sure!
Have a look on car sales I had a browse and by all the others on there this one would be a 55k car. There are utes on car sales advertised for 65k and that's for a 2002 model. Even seen a gq wagon on there advertised for 35k.
Kast
21st January 2013, 01:09 AM
I got suckered in like this with a pristine 100 series 'cruiser (yeah the bad ol' days - turned to the light side since then) '08, low kms, all the extras......$35k.
The vehicle was legit (VIN, rego etc). But the location given didn't match the area code of the phone number given. I couldn't get in phone contact with them so emailed. About a week later they got back via email, all apologetic because their mother had died in the UK and they had to go back. But miraculously the car was in Darwin, all I had to do was pay them and all would be fine (their pitch was the transaction was all covered by carsales.com.au rules blah blah blah). Anyway I said I wanted to see it before I bought it, and what address could I see it at (they knew I was in Perth). They came back, nothing to worry about just transfer the money. So I asked again, what address could I see the car at. I think they got the hint after that and that was it.
It was too good to be true but what a bargain it would have been!
So you know what they say about if it's too good to be true. And in this case it certainly was. I reported it. Here's a carsales link that gives you the tips, and I dare say if it can happen at carsales it'd be the same on ebay
http://helpcentre.carsales.com.au/scam-defence/payment-scams/
If it's legit though - I'll be the first to buy you a beer. The you can take me for a ride!
And if it's not, you've just saved yourself $17k and some really long looks in the mirror (and bruises from the minister of finance).
cgm
21st January 2013, 03:16 AM
Don't think you'll have to buy any beers. There were similar ads on one of expat sites here when I was looking for my first car. All had same theme - pics of perfect car, sob story excuse why they had to give it away, no local number and "trust me" - just send deposit via western union as I'm stuck out of country for a few weeks ... SCAM is my vote
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PMC
21st January 2013, 09:17 AM
G'day folks!
I e-mailed them yesterday offering to pay cash, i am still waiting on a reply! If it is a scam i am going to have a good time playing with these turkeys. lol
Regards,
RLI
Kast
22nd January 2013, 02:18 PM
Have fun RLI!
Be sure to let us know how it all pans out....
Cheers,
kast
Maxhead
22nd January 2013, 02:37 PM
Ok, just done a deal on this Patrol...Picking it up tomorrow...Suprised the ad is still up ;)
Bob
22nd January 2013, 02:47 PM
Ok, just done a deal on this Patrol...Picking it up tomorrow...Suprised the ad is still up ;)
Whereabouts are you opening your used Nissan Patrol Yard ???
Too much time & Money ?? RAFLMAO
PMC
22nd January 2013, 04:35 PM
Ok, just done a deal on this Patrol...Picking it up tomorrow...Suprised the ad is still up ;)
G'day Nisshead,
He must have two of them! I have bought one two. lol
PS, i have not paid any monies! have you?
Regards,
RLI
Benno7
22nd January 2013, 04:39 PM
I call the Bloke yesterday and just went to msg bank I didn't leave a msg and today I got a text from him saying:
If you are still interested in the 2004 NISSAN PATROL GU III ST 4.2 Turbo Diesel 4wd $17500 please email: camp88@msn.com or text me back your Email.
the evil twin
22nd January 2013, 04:48 PM
'Camp 88' must be the prison work camp in Nigeria he is currently paroled from....
89gqpatrol4x4
22nd January 2013, 07:07 PM
I emailed him last nightand called the number about six times today, still no response!
NissanGQ4.2
22nd January 2013, 07:11 PM
I call the Bloke yesterday and just went to msg bank I didn't leave a msg and today I got a text from him saying:
If you are still interested in the 2004 NISSAN PATROL GU III ST 4.2 Turbo Diesel 4wd $17500 please email: camp88@msn.com or text me back your Email.
Well there is the alarm bell there
If he was after a sale he would of called you back, not given or asked for email address
SCAM!!!
Maxhead
22nd January 2013, 07:15 PM
G'day Nisshead,
He must have two of them! I have bought one two. lol
PS, i have not paid any monies! have you?
Regards,
RLI
Yeah I had to pay him through this wire transfer thingy he asked me to pay through, but he did say it was very safe. He said I can pick it up tomorrow but for some reason I can contact him right now. I hope he is OK.
I am very happy with the purchase and cant wait to see the car;)
Winnie
22nd January 2013, 08:24 PM
Email sent to that address =]
Stropp
22nd January 2013, 09:23 PM
It's a scam, he has zero sales on eBay and the email not phone call is a huge red flag, bet he is a soldier who has been suddenly posted to Afghanistan and needs the money prior to getting the shipping company to deliver it to your home!
Lonicus
23rd January 2013, 03:02 PM
If you're lucky Nisshead he might throw in one of those beaut light bars that he got from his cousin but doesn't need any more :)
lorrieandjas
23rd January 2013, 03:20 PM
If you're lucky Nisshead he might throw in one of those beaut light bars that he got from his cousin but doesn't need any more :)
That one's never going to get old! :)
Jas
GU_Nemesis
23rd January 2013, 05:11 PM
Hi All,
Attached is the email reply i got from old mate.. you know the old saying about when something seems too good to be true ;) well it seems this is one of the classic scams being done at the moment, where they say they are overseas etc and getting someone to sell for them.. apparently they ask for a deposit by bank transfer before you are allowed to see the car, then once they have money you will never hear from them again. In my line of work I have access to lots of scamming info, so I have passed this on to the relevant authority. Surely no-one in the Patrol forum world would have fallen for an asking price of only $17,500 for a 2004 TD42T when they are going for the ridiculous price of usually $40,000 and upwards! Cheers, Scotty
Here is the reply:
Thank you for the interest showed in my car, and sorry for the late reply but I have just moved to England with my job. Don't worry though, the car is still there, in Stuart Park NT. It was left to me in my father's will 2 months ago, and to be honest I have no use for a car and I never owned a car before and I don't even have a license, but I can assure you it runs as great as it looks, my father took great care of it. The price I am asking is $17.500 and it includes shipping anywhere in Australia. Because of this situation, me being in UK, I have made special arrangements that allow me to sell the car there without me being present and will allow you to inspect it, so if you are still interested in it please email me back so I can explain to you how can this be done safely for both of us. Thanks, Robert
Stropp
23rd January 2013, 07:15 PM
ha ha tell him you have a policeman mate who lives in stuart park and is happy to inspect it for you, give me the address so i can get it organised asap.
PMC
23rd January 2013, 09:25 PM
Hi All,
Attached is the email reply i got from old mate.. you know the old saying about when something seems too good to be true ;) well it seems this is one of the classic scams being done at the moment, where they say they are overseas etc and getting someone to sell for them.. apparently they ask for a deposit by bank transfer before you are allowed to see the car, then once they have money you will never hear from them again. In my line of work I have access to lots of scamming info, so I have passed this on to the relevant authority. Surely no-one in the Patrol forum world would have fallen for an asking price of only $17,500 for a 2004 TD42T when they are going for the ridiculous price of usually $40,000 and upwards! Cheers, Scotty
Here is the reply:
Thank you for the interest showed in my car, and sorry for the late reply but I have just moved to England with my job. Don't worry though, the car is still there, in Stuart Park NT. It was left to me in my father's will 2 months ago, and to be honest I have no use for a car and I never owned a car before and I don't even have a license, but I can assure you it runs as great as it looks, my father took great care of it. The price I am asking is $17.500 and it includes shipping anywhere in Australia. Because of this situation, me being in UK, I have made special arrangements that allow me to sell the car there without me being present and will allow you to inspect it, so if you are still interested in it please email me back so I can explain to you how can this be done safely for both of us. Thanks, Robert
Good onya mate!
Regards,
RLI
PMC
23rd January 2013, 09:30 PM
Yeah I had to pay him through this wire transfer thingy he asked me to pay through, but he did say it was very safe. He said I can pick it up tomorrow but for some reason I can contact him right now. I hope he is OK.
I am very happy with the purchase and cant wait to see the car;)
G'day mate,
Apparently, he is going to get mine detailed and the interior shampoooooooed! For no extra cost!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
PS, i thing it might be like the swamp land for sale routine, i can only see the land at low tide! lol
Regards,
RLI
Maxhead
23rd January 2013, 09:33 PM
WHAT!!! I've been ripped off.....nioooob
Kast
24th January 2013, 12:02 AM
This has turned into a very creative and amusing thread, so thanks guys. It was getting way too serious wasn't it!
At least the story's consistent, which means we should really be offering some creative thinking course for the poor little bugger. Maybe a free copy of Tolkien or SoG (that's the MoF's contribution).
But my question is, why do they all say the vehicle's in the Darwin? Surely Karumba or Bing Bong would be much more authentic and believable, or Roswell for that matter.
PMC
24th January 2013, 11:41 AM
This has turned into a very creative and amusing thread, so thanks guys. It was getting way too serious wasn't it!
At least the story's consistent, which means we should really be offering some creative thinking course for the poor little bugger. Maybe a free copy of Tolkien or SoG (that's the MoF's contribution).
But my question is, why do they all say the vehicle's in the Darwin? Surely Karumba or Bing Bong would be much more authentic and believable, or Roswell for that matter.
Good onya mate!
Regards,
RLI
mudski
26th January 2013, 10:37 PM
I just reported his listing as suspected fraudulent listing...
Benno7
16th February 2013, 05:32 PM
Well I think we have another one
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2004-GU-STL-Nissan-Patrol-wagon-Black-4-2ltr-turbo-diesel-5-speed-man-4wd-/221189505410?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item337fec0182&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_1288
threedogs
16th February 2013, 05:43 PM
As my great grand pappy says if it doesn't make sense it probably not true either
Maybe make this a sticky for future dodgy sales ???????????mods
Same happened to me selling my Hilux camper, they wanted bank details to leave a deposit
they txt you but you can't reply you need to email
Be carefull selling or buying bigger ticket items
Bloodyaussie
16th February 2013, 05:50 PM
Well I think we have another one
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2004-GU-STL-Nissan-Patrol-wagon-Black-4-2ltr-turbo-diesel-5-speed-man-4wd-/221189505410?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item337fec0182&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_1288
I dont get it... what is the scam...... its not like you are going to use paypal??
NP99
18th February 2013, 11:50 PM
I dont get it... what is the scam...... its not like you are going to use paypal??
I think they clean you up with a deposit!
NP99
18th February 2013, 11:56 PM
Well I think we have another one
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2004-GU-STL-Nissan-Patrol-wagon-Black-4-2ltr-turbo-diesel-5-speed-man-4wd-/221189505410?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item337fec0182&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_1288
No rego plate on front but is on back, can clearly make out rego on white patrol in background. Probably stolen pic from somewhere?
Ramsi23
22nd February 2013, 10:44 PM
Hi All,
Attached is the email reply i got from old mate.. you know the old saying about when something seems too good to be true ;) well it seems this is one of the classic scams being done at the moment, where they say they are overseas etc and getting someone to sell for them.. apparently they ask for a deposit by bank transfer before you are allowed to see the car, then once they have money you will never hear from them again. In my line of work I have access to lots of scamming info, so I have passed this on to the relevant authority. Surely no-one in the Patrol forum world would have fallen for an asking price of only $17,500 for a 2004 TD42T when they are going for the ridiculous price of usually $40,000 and upwards! Cheers, Scotty
Here is the reply:
Thank you for the interest showed in my car, and sorry for the late reply but I have just moved to England with my job. Don't worry though, the car is still there, in Stuart Park NT. It was left to me in my father's will 2 months ago, and to be honest I have no use for a car and I never owned a car before and I don't even have a license, but I can assure you it runs as great as it looks, my father took great care of it. The price I am asking is $17.500 and it includes shipping anywhere in Australia. Because of this situation, me being in UK, I have made special arrangements that allow me to sell the car there without me being present and will allow you to inspect it, so if you are still interested in it please email me back so I can explain to you how can this be done safely for both of us. Thanks, Robert
I can second that very email. That was the same email I got too. So I sent a couple more emails to the guy asking everything I could to see if I could trip the guy up (scam for sure). At the end of the day he got so annoyed with me he told me I should call if I had anything proper to ask (I never saw any phone number previously) but otherwise don't ever email him again. One thing not mentioned so far is the fact the car had QLD plates, located in NT and yet was registered in NSW. I checked the VIN too and it was legitimate. SCAM... too funny.
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