TG Thompson Solenoid help

[Bloodyaussie]

I got myself a TG Thompson solenoid as The one I had was crap and wanted to move it to under the bonnet.

I have seen an followed all the Diagrams out there but there does not seem to be instructions to be had (I look forward to being proven wrong on that one)

All it does is click when I use the controller and the main lead to the battery physically moves when I push the button?????

I am having one of those days with Alexander playing up big time (2 year olds) and trying to concentrate while he is having a tantrum is bloody hard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One hand controller I have has red/brown and yellow and the other controller I have has blue/black/red/ yellow (the yellow was not connected in the other set up)

Any help please... I dont ask for help often........... sorry looking face!!!

[Bloodyaussie]

Where are all the electrical gurus ???

Bloody thing is shitting me, got some Sharon Jones tunes going and the kids have settled down plus a bloody nice steak in my belly!!!!!!!

Now all I need is answers??

[NissanGQ4.2]

Now all I need is answers??

The answers are written on a note in the bottom of the 24th stubbie

Does that help?

[NissanGQ4.2]

Does Time's diagram here help?

http://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/auto-electrical-37/winch-wiring-hook-up-61268/

Doesn't seem 2 be instructions as such just various diagrams

[Bloodyaussie]

Nope........ I have seen all the diagrams and now I want to vomit!!!!!!!

Another day of my life gone... I think we sell ourselves too cheap, life should be worth so much more!!!!!!

Dont ask???

[happygu]

Hey Aussie,

Here is the wiring diagram

24170

Never hooked one of these up before, but it seems to be the following :

The Black 0.75 Cable is Earth or Battery Negative
The Red 0.75 Cable is for Power and is Battery Positive
Brown Cable 0.75 is either Winch In or Out
Yellow Cable 0.75 is either Winch In or Out

With your hand controller, it is just a series of switches. Grab a multimeter, and hit the switch for Winch In, and find out which two wires are then shorted out ( My guess it will be Red and either Brown or Yellow ).

Do the same for Winch Out.

The hand controller with the black, may be an earth for an led or light if it has one......

I hope this this helps

[NissanGQ4.2]

Nope........ I have seen all the diagrams and now I want to vomit!!!!!!!

Another day of my life gone... I think we sell ourselves too cheap, life should be worth so much more!!!!!!

Dont ask???

I tell my manager 5 days a week I'm worth so much more, he just ignores me

[Bloodyaussie]

Yeah I have diagram and also found a really good how to on Tubedoo and I did everything right???

I am now resting my brain and watching The Hobit.....

And I know you are worth so much more NGQ it's convincing the rest of the world thats hard!!!!

[Bloodyaussie]

Almost starting to think the supercheap winch is the fault as the solenoid seems to be doing all the right things ??

How do I test the winch to see if thats the fault?????

[the evil twin]

Did the winch work before you changed the solenoid?

Given the diagram above...
If you want to test the solenoid... 2 is the power in that goes to the field windings and 4 is the power from the field to the winch armature.

Connect the black control wire to -ve and using light gauge wire jump 12 volts direct to the yellow wire, contactor should energise and there should be continuity between
2 and 1 or 2 and 3. Lets assume 2 and 1 and if that is the case then 3 and 4 should also be short
In that scenario, when operating, power would flow from Battery to 2, 2 to 1 via the contactor and thru the winch motor field windings back to 3, 3 to 4 via the contactor and back to the winch motor armature then to earth at the winch

Jumping 12 volts to brown should short and assuming the above should short 2 to 3 and 4 to 1


If you want to test the winch motor...
Using jumper cables or heavy gauge wire connect the body of the winch to -ve if not bolted in to the vehicle
Connect 12 Volts to F1
Momentarily jumper F2 to the Armature stud and the motor should spin one direction

Remove 12 Volts from F1 and connect to F2
Momentarily jumper F2 to the Armature stud and the motor should spin the other direction