tigerz11 winch mounting plate

[trekster]

Hey all,

Did a search but can't really find the info I require, I scored an old warn winch off my in-laws which I want to start working out how to attach it behind my alloy bar, From what I have seen I have 2 options: I can purchase a universal winch mounting plate from tigerz11 or I can buy a winch cradle that suits the car.

Now there is a significant price difference between the two $70 x $300 for the cradle. I have a friend who could weld the tigerz plate in for me, but I've been researching and it looks like the plate is only 4mm thick? Will 4mm be sufficient to allow recoveries of a patrol?

I could buy the plate then get my friend to weld some more plate to it to beef it up more as well.


Cheers,
Eric.

[threedogs]

Price reflects quality there I think, if your mates a boiler maker or like I'm sure he'd be able to gusset the 4mm one.
Why not get him to make a new one , what bullbar do you have is it factory bullbar? Have seen them cheaper than $300

[trekster]

Hi threedogs thanks for the reply, I have put the nissan alloy one on and am planing on opening up the slots to suit, Can you point me to where you have seen the cradles for less then $300?

Cheers,
Eric.

[Sir Roofy]

ERIC ID LIKE TO SEE YOU STEER CLEAR OF THE $70 ONE AND HUNT AROUND FOR THE CRADLE
WHICH WILL BOLT STRAIGHT IN,SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF TROUBLE TO STRENGHTEN THE OTHER ONE
AND TO WELD IT IN ,IN M,O,P IS NOT A GOOD IDEA

JUST MY 2c WORTH

[trekster]

these are the $300 ones on fleabay

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/GU-Patrol-Winch-Cradle-suit-Genuine-Nissan-alloy-bullbar-not-TJM-or-ARB-bars-/251195038994?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a7c641d12&_uhb=1#ht_2703wt_1285

[Sir Roofy]

these are the $300 ones on fleabay

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/gu-patrol-winch-cradle-suit-genuine-nissan-alloy-bullbar-not-tjm-or-arb-bars-/251195038994?pt=au_car_parts_accessories&hash=item3a7c641d12&_uhb=1#ht_2703wt_1285

mate anything 4x4 is expensive and safety is the number one thing
go for it

[Drewboyaus]

From all the chat about Tigerz I'd steer clear......particularly if you're talking about a potentially hazardous situation such as winching.
You don't want that 4mm cradle giving way when you're stuck on an awkward angle out on South Bassalt Knob or somewhere like that......
It's a long way to the bottom!
Cheers,
Drew.


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[jack]

Hi trekster,

The guy who makes these cradles is a member on here. Named Toolman, you can try sending him a pm as I know it wasn't compatible with all alloy bars. Depends on the model you have.

Cheers

[trekster]

This is the bullbar I have.

Cheers,
Eric.

[BigRAWesty]

Get your mate to make one from 6mm plate. You have the basic design from pictures and for $150 and a box of beer (potential cost, my rate anyway..:p ) you'll have a solid cradle which will last a lifetime..

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)

[my third 256]

they are cheeper from him direct as he then doesnt pay ebay fees as he has mentioned in a previous thread the link to him is
http://www.nissangupatrol.com/chassis-differences.html

[Bloodyaussie]

they are cheeper from him direct as he then doesnt pay ebay fees as he has mentioned in a previous thread the link to him is
http://www.nissangupatrol.com/chassis-differences.html

This is the option I would go with.. STAY AWAY FROM THE CHEAP CHINESE SHIT!!! the effort it takes to mount all this up you would be so dissapointed with the cheaper option.

The first time you would really need to use your winch in an emergency the cheap option will let you down.

[threedogs]

With BA here too many posts saying I bought a TIGERZ product and it , BROKE ,RIPPED, NEVER ARRIVED ,WON'T WORK ,DIDN'T FIT, CAN'T CONTACT THEM.
If you buy it you are saving NOTHING, OMG wait an extra week and buy the real deal. Your Question should be WHERE CAN I BUY A QUALITY Da Da Da.
You'll get a few answers that differ but none will say TIGERZ

[trekster]

ignoring the 4mm tiger plate, Reading the warn installation manual for my winch they reccomend between 3/16" and 1/4" for a mounting plate. Thats only 4.76-6.35mm I would have expected warn themselves to want something a little thicker then that???

[threedogs]

This might change your mind, doing the rounds of a few shops this morning it was brought to my attention to read the TIGERZ fine print.
Somewhere in the little writing it says " NOT FOR OFF ROAD USE " if someone could confirm that it would be great. Go figure
not for offroad use,
Trekster you may find the Warn one very different, steel wise and design wise,
and yes you'd think Warn know their stuff
Everyone I've made have been 8mm or better

[trekster]

threedogs thanks again for replying,

funnily enough the diagram example in my book and the ones on the warn site are almost identical to the ones being sold on ebay, only difference being on the front face of the fairlead, they leave there ones solid across the whole front, whereas some of the others have a taper from the fairlead section to a smaller dimension on the ends.

I guess pictures speak a thousand words so I will show the images I have seen

from the warn site
http://www.warn.com/truck/mounting-systems/images/199/Univ_Mount_Foot_Down.jpg


and another warn with mounts to suit a jeep
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2012/12/18.jpg

and the copies online are like this:

http://www.scintex.com.au/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/resized/custom/SUWMP01_product_detail_extra_full_0.jpg

[BigRAWesty]

I think there are a couple of reasons for the angles of the good cradle. I think it would allow the winch to sit inside of the bar, forward of the chassis rails.
If it was a straight bracket as above it would sit under the radiator were the holes are and be no good.
As for strength the "cut down" cradle would be as strong as the straight one.
For comparison, the arb winch bar is all 2.4mm sheet.. it has bends in the right places which gives it its strength..
Never underestimate steel..

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)

[optic]

I was asking about winch mounting plates some time ago.
I got onto one through here. I think 3 dogs helped me out with that one.
I did have a bit of trouble with hole centers, but nothing a file wouldn't fix.
It just bolted straight in, and from memory i think its 8mm plate formed to suit the GU chassis and fully welded.
As of today finally i will get the winch working.
Had a bad run with solenoids, 2 new ones burnt out from seaford. Another mechanic supplied me another free of charge, new also. It was knackered.
Turned out all of them in VIC were also knackered, but she is a goer now.
Im sure mine was not expensive.
All the best with the winch.