The "Tank" - Big, Grey and Ugly ..

[Bigrig]

Sounds like grunt wants a straight line drag! (on any terrain).

We are all hurting for some vids man!

It will happen glass slipper ... patience (it's all I have left!!). lmao

[Bigrig]

Well, not much as I wasn't allowed in the workshop with the gear running (makes sense), but a short one of Tank on the Dyno.

Some truths are being revealed from the original sale information provided too - there's no way on God's green earth that it was making near 200kw at the rear wheels previously as the turbo actuator is about 7.5lbs ... it spikes up to 14 or thereabouts, but on the machine, plummets round 2000rpm back down to 7-8 lbs no matter what ... that's a problem I can get resolved pretty easily, and would expect a MAJOR increase in output. Additionally, the intercooler is struggling and air is essentially being pulled into the engine as it's working so hard, and subsequently stretching and thinning out the air (and heating it) - another problem for another day ...

BUT, on the last run I saw, it threw out 190HP/140kw's at the rear wheels (they are about 120HP/90Kw standard) and with all due respect, I'm happy at the moment with that due to the fact that it is quite simply just purring - runs awesome, fuel consumption rate (according to ECU - will be different under load on road) is down around 13-13.5 LPH at cruising RPM's and it sounds outstanding!!! More berries will come but not at the expense of the engine - that said, having driven it the other night, I would have said it has twice the power of original just in "feel", and I know for a fact (with witnesses) that I gave an Audi A6 a hurry up when he tried to take me off the line to get in front as the road went back to single lane. So in short, it's hauling.

Not going to change the intercooler, but will be getting a new actuator and electronic boost control put on it (not that expensive funnily enough) which he said would definitely see it well over 200HP at the rear wheels alone as it can actually hold 13-14 lbs of boost from 2500-4000 RPM (peak power range). Probably going to look into Water Methanol for the Intercooler issue and that was on the cards right from the outset anyway, so not too dramatised - proof will be in the pudding this afternoon when I drive it (and already I have plans!!!! lmao ... what a d!ckhead!!!!)

Anyways - short but enjoy the noise!!!


http://youtu.be/hKmis9Fakus

[growler2058]

Ahhh the intercooler der of course its a bloody ford part theres the problem hahahahahahahahhahahahahaaha

[growler2058]

Friggin hell he sounds soopa soopa tuff

[Bigrig]

Friggin hell he sounds soopa soopa tuff

Yep, definitely has a nice 'note' to it ... as said, find it funny about the power output results, as it certainly feels much punchier (I have gained a 56% power increase overall which isn't to be sneezed at I guess). I don't know ... I'm happy with the result, and as said, get to drive it properly this afternoon, so that'll be the telling factor for me. Didn't see the torque curve whilst I was there, and again, that's more important to me than outright tyre burning power - got a bloody heavy camper trailer to lug around!!! ... and the driver of course!!! lmao (start with personal trainer this afternoon by the way ... dreading it!!!!)

[growler2058]

(start with personal trainer this afternoon by the way ... dreading it!!!!)

OY ThATS CHeATinG Hes gunna flog you like a borrowed horse hahahahahahhahahahahahha I Want foters hahahahahahahah

[Bigrig]

OY ThATS CHeATinG Hes gunna flog you like a borrowed horse hahahahahahhahahahahahha I Want foters hahahahahahahah

SHE is going to flog me like a borrowed horse my furry little friend ... SHE!!!

Annnnd that would be why the missus is coming also!!! lmfao

[Bigrig]

Righto - it's done!!! Going to pick it up now ... very excitement!! lmao

threw out just over 400nm of torque and one thing I didn't take into account with all the information in my previous post, is the large tyres!!! He actually commented that even though I'm looking at 140kw and 400+nm at the rear wheels, against the standard rating (90kw and 240nm) my tyres would be stripping as much as 20-25% (no joke) of the number off, basically, it is more likely close to double the factory output ... his exact words were "it's producing a truckload of torque" ... outstanding!!!!

I'm off ... trying to remove the smile from my dial will be a hard task this afternoon!!!

[growler2058]

Thats double triple cheating then hahahahahhahahahaha

Oh Oh come on biggus chase me chase me giggle giggle......youve been a bad boy chase me chase me. Its cheating!!!!!!!!!

My missus trainer came round about 6 mths ago and smashed me, i couldnt move for a week hurt from the tip of me toes to the ends of me hair hahahhahahahhaa

[growler2058]

Righto - it's done!!! Going to pick it up now ... very excitement!! lmao

threw out just over 400nm of torque and one thing I didn't take into account with all the information in my previous post, is the large tyres!!! He actually commented that even though I'm looking at 140kw and 400+nm at the rear wheels, against the standard rating (90kw and 240nm) my tyres would be stripping as much as 20-25% (no joke) of the number off, basically, it is more likely close to double the factory output ... his exact words were "it's producing a truckload of torque" ... outstanding!!!!

I'm off ... trying to remove the smile from my dial will be a hard task this afternoon!!!

Youll be able to reduce those tyres in no time with that amount of torque Sh1t hot mate glad hes up n at it

[taslucas]

Many excitements for ya mate. I will watch your vid when I get on the lappy:-) -:)

[97_gq_lwb]

Glad to hear you can finally drive it.
And i love that you stuck with the nissan engine and have more power then a v8.
I t sickens me everytime i see someone has fitted holden junk into a patrol.

[Bigrig]

Dyno graph - going for another drive ... happy boy!!!!

Note - the torque is in foot pounds ...

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And because I'm impetuous, the electronic boost controller etc is getting ordered tomorrow ....

[Silver]

Great to see all your planning and work come together BigRig!

[growler2058]

Hahahhahhahahahhaa enjoy it mate

[Ben-e-boy]

191hp will still beat a stock 5L dunnydore. Also get onto A.R.E in brendale and go through their tech section on intercoolers. proper intercooler will make a world of difference,

[Bigrig]

191hp will still beat a stock 5L dunnydore. Also get onto A.R.E in brendale and go through their tech section on intercoolers. proper intercooler will make a world of difference,

Thanks mate - will give them a call. Going to do the electronic boost controller first though ... once I know it will hold boost, then I'll look into the rest, but for the moment, I am just going to take some time and enjoy having it back!!

The power delivery has me impressed, no real 'sink in your seat' feel as the turbo spools up. Moreso a seamless delivery of power right through the rev range and it doesn't actually feel like you're hammering, but the speed pickup is more than impressive. I reckon you're right - that Audi A6 would have a far harder time of it now!!!! lmao.

Can't wait to hook up the trailer on Saturday and hit the highway up to Bribie to see what all that torque does ...

[Ben-e-boy]

IMO I doubt you'll even know the trailer is there. for economy, it could be worse, you could have a 265 hemi, physics cant even explain where the fuel goes in those things

[Timbo]

im planning to get an ARE intercooler.. give them a buzz scotty

[Bigrig]

im planning to get an ARE intercooler.. give them a buzz scotty

Will do mate - hopefully something that will fit down the front .. done too much work to throw it all out and start again.

[NissanGQ4.2]

I think you need 2 take a drive 2 Sydney, ( preferably with some gas tanks in the back ) just so you can give it a real test of power *LMAO*

Sounds nice mate, glad 2 hear TANKS back on the road

[Bigrig]

I think you need 2 take a drive 2 Sydney, ( preferably with some gas tanks in the back ) just so you can give it a real test of power *LMAO*

Sounds nice mate, glad 2 hear TANKS back on the road

Thanks mate!! Nahhhh, no need to go to that extreme ... I can just as readily offload the tanks and LPG system up here!!!!! lmao!!!!

[NissanGQ4.2]

Thanks mate!! Nahhhh, no need to go to that extreme ... I can just as readily offload the tanks and LPG system up here!!!!! lmao!!!!

Was worth a try *L*

Off load them 2 someone else mate, would love 2 take them off your hands but can't see me getting up there before the meetup :( :( :( :(

[Bigrig]

Was worth a try *L*

Off load them 2 someone else mate, would love 2 take them off your hands but can't see me getting up there before the meetup :( :( :( :(

I'm sure we can "organise" a courier for them mate ... It's all yours either way!!

[taslucas]

Just watched the vid Scotty, Tank sounds tuff as! I can see how your hands were shaking in anticipation!!!
Very cool, Very very cool..........
A test on the highway is one thing but i cant wait to see tank smashing up a massive muddy hill with roost flying and turbo whining!!!

[Bigrig]

Just watched the vid Scotty, Tank sounds tuff as! I can see how your hands were shaking in anticipation!!!
Very cool, Very very cool..........
A test on the highway is one thing but i cant wait to see tank smashing up a massive muddy hill with roost flying and turbo whining!!!

Haha ... thanks mate!

One thing I have noticed (and I don't know why), is the turbo whistle when driving seems more prominent ... I like it, but I don't see what's changed as far as the turbo is concerned ...

Sounds great anyway!

[taslucas]

I reckon it's tank whistling with excitement to be back on the open road!

[Robo]

Careful not to pull the trailer draw-bar clean off the trailer. lol
Sounds like the cam low down torque profile and added boost has you smiling from ear to ear.
let us know if you feel turbo run-on, would you please.

[Robo]

Found this for ya, all sorts of conversion tools, ft lb to Nm etc.
375 ftlb = over 500 Nm that getting serious stuff bud.
Would say cheers but, then you cant enjoy the power. lol.


http://www.unitconverter.com.au/

[Bigrig]

Found this for ya, all sorts of conversion tools, ft lb to Nm etc.
375 ftlb = over 500 Nm that getting serious stuff bud.
Would say cheers but, then you cant enjoy the power. lol.


http://www.unitconverter.com.au/

Thanks mate - yeah, that's a pleasant surprise!!!! 514nm of Torque!!!! Wowser - that explains why it pulls so hard once up and going ...

Yep - loving it!!!! Slight ping in the high rev range but that's getting sorted this arvo (top bloke!!) - obviously leaned it out a little too much just through that stage of the fuel map ...

[rusty_nail]

congrats pal, sounds like things are turning your way!!!

[NissanGQ4.2]

I'm sure we can "organise" a courier for them mate ... It's all yours either way!!

I can get them picked up from your house, work, anywhere else for that matter no probs at all, but they would need 2 be secured onto a skid / pallet :( Doesn't matter if no forklift is available as long as the truck driver can get a trolley jack under the pallet. And I know it would be a pain in the as! for you 2 get them onto a pallet

[taslucas]

So what's today's update mate? Cooked the tyres off it yet? Lol
Showed a few blokes your vid.....they love the 3/4 mark where tank spools up!

[Bigrig]

I can get them picked up from your house, work, anywhere else for that matter no probs at all, but they would need 2 be secured onto a skid / pallet :( Doesn't matter if no forklift is available as long as the truck driver can get a trolley jack under the pallet. And I know it would be a pain in the as! for you 2 get them onto a pallet

Cool - I'll call tomorrow and we'll work it out - I can get it all on a pallet and have a forklift also so no drama.

[NissanGQ4.2]

Cool - I'll call tomorrow and we'll work it out - I can get it all on a pallet and have a forklift also so no drama.

Coolbeers, Can only answer my phone between 9.20am - 9.35am and 12pm and 12.30pm....then anytime after 3pm.....thats the 1 of many work rules.

Chat 2 u 2morrow.

P.s: loved the vid, I'm jealous ( Just a little! )

[Bigrig]

So what's today's update mate? Cooked the tyres off it yet? Lol
Showed a few blokes your vid.....they love the 3/4 mark where tank spools up!

Haha - its screaming mate - ping is gone also. It was when it was kicking down and spiking - bit more fuel in that part of the map and uncle bob took care of it from there!!! lol

Will get some in car footage this weekend to post up ... I'll say again, the power delivery is just seamless through the rev range ...

LOVE IT!!!!!!!!

If you have a TB42e - turbo it!!!!! lmao

[taslucas]

Haha - its screaming mate - ping is gone also. It was when it was liking down and spiking - bit more fuel in that part of the map and uncle bob took care of it from there!!! lol

Will get some in car footage this weekend to post up ... I'll say again, the power delivery is just seamless through the rev range ...

LOVE IT!!!!!!!!

If you have a TB42e - turbo it!!!!! lmao


"I want what he's having".....!
Thats great to here and yes I will be waiting in anticipation for the next installment:-)

[Bigrig]

"I want what he's having".....!)

I can't stop smiling!!! My missus thinks I'm an idiot ...

She's right, but that's not the point!!!! lmao

[Silver]

We love it when a plan comes together. :-)

Looking forward to seeing Tank in action!

[NissanGQ4.2]

If you have a TB42e - turbo it!!!!! lmao

yeh, yeh, yeh, whatever................ I would go supercharger over turbo any day of the week

[Bigrig]

yeh, yeh, yeh, whatever................ I would go supercharger over turbo any day of the week

And I thought my fuel consumption will be bad!!! lmao

[NissanGQ4.2]

And I thought my fuel consumption will be bad!!! lmao

hence why I haven't got one yet *L*

[NissanGQ4.2]

This is what I want my Patrol 2 sound like, Ok its not a Patrol, but its a Nissan


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6pyUeF8Z5I

[taslucas]

that is crazy................

[Dark 1]

Looks as good in the flesh to, Scotty should be a proud dad.


Tapatalking my way around.

[Bigrig]

Looks as good in the flesh to, Scotty should be a proud dad.


Tapatalking my way around.

Don't be tappacrappa'ing from the room down the hall!!!!! lmfao

[Trolatron]

Sounds sweet .... wouldn't want to be his neighbour though lol.

[Bigrig]

Okey dokey, small update.

Did the first reasonable size trip over the weekend since getting Tank back. Did 407 klms made up as follows:

1. About 40 klms of reasonably hard pedal driving testing it out when I got it back and filled it to the brim
2. 50 klms of what I'd say is average around town/cruising driving to get Timbo from the airport (suburbia, bit of 80 kph, bit of 100 kph, etc)
3. About 200 klms of highway driving
4. About 117 klms with tyres at 20 psi on sand in 2 and 4wd

Returned a consumption figure of ... wait for it ...

17.76 litres per hundred!!!!

I'm dead set stoked with that!!!! The best I ever got pre-turbo was the trip up to Rockhampton with Dhuck to pick up Kelvins trailer (the trip up only without the trailer - about 650 klms) - that was 15.25 litres per hundred and essentially nothing but highway driving.

I'm thinking if I drive reasonably normally, I'm looking at an around town figure of mid to late teens, and a highway consumption figure probably closer to 13 litres per hundred. That's on a near 3 tonne rig, and from an engine punching out close to 200 horsies and 514nm at the rear wheels!!!! And it holds speed heaps better now also (not up and down at the slightest hint of a slope like it was before).

Happy is an understatement.

[taslucas]

Thats awesome mate! Really happy for you even though im jealous..... maybe i need to get myself a turbo?

[growler2058]

Sh1t Hot mate with those figures you should make the loveday meetup ;-)

[Bigrig]

Thats awesome mate! Really happy for you even though im jealous..... maybe i need to get myself a turbo?

Thanks champion ... and yep, I'd do it again (differently, but definitely again).

[Bigrig]

Sh1t Hot mate with those figures you should make the loveday meetup ;-)

Haha ... "could" make the Loveday meet up ... just "can't" unfortunately!!

[growler2058]

Haha ... "could" make the Loveday meet up ... just "can't" unfortunately!!

Ohhhhhhhhhh cooooommmmme oooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[DX grunt]

My question is.....is the handbrake broken?

How come you get a free reign on the cheque book for all these mods? lol

I'd be checking out gumtree or ebay. The handbrake might be parting it out, very, very soon. lmao.

[NissanGQ4.2]

My question is.....is the handbrake broken?

How come you get a free reign on the cheque book for all these mods? lol

I'd be checking out gumtree or ebay. The handbrake might be parting it out, very, very soon. lmao.


hahahahah Love it

[DX grunt]

Congrats on reaching 50,000 reads, Scotty.

Well done. Now, please read and answer my last question!! lol

Rossco

[DX grunt]

Congrats on reaching 50,000 reads, Scotty.

Well done. Now, please read and answer my last question!! lol

Rossco

[NissanGQ4.2]

Congrats on reaching 50,000 reads, Scotty.

Well done. Now, please read and answer my last question!! lol

Rossco

We don't read this thread Rossco we just hijack it with crap....... So really its probable only 50 reads not 50,000 *LMAO*

[Clunk]

taken a while to catch up what what ya been up to Scotty, sounds like plenty of lows n highs............................. and now finally ending with a major high, glad it's all sorted for ya mate, very nice indeed fella, very very jealous................... now where's the vids you promised??????? lol

[Bigrig]

Congrats on reaching 50,000 reads, Scotty.

Well done. Now, please read and answer my last question!! lol

Rossco

Hahaha .. thanks mate!!

Hmmmm, open cheque book??? Must be something to do with my debonair and dashing looks!!!! LMFAO!!!

[Airstrike]

Good to asee its finally come a head. Nice vid on the dyno aswell.

[Bigrig]

Good to asee its finally come a head. Nice vid on the dyno aswell.

Thanks mate ...

That said, a 'disconcerting' knock from the engine when I started this morning ... runs fine and no further noises, so hopefully just letting me know it wasn't appreciative of the couple of bonnet deep water crossings on the weekend!!

[Bigrig]

taken a while to catch up what what ya been up to Scotty, sounds like plenty of lows n highs............................. and now finally ending with a major high, glad it's all sorted for ya mate, very nice indeed fella, very very jealous................... now where's the vids you promised??????? lol

They're coming boss - promise!!!!

[Silver]

Where did you find bonnet deep water, Bigrig? I'd have to do something about Silver's air intake and breathers before having a go at that depth :-)

Last time we were at Bribie, 04OFF was saying that he missed the second lagoon crossing running as it did last year. You know the one - he took some spectacular pics of people who were dicing with the tide.

[Bigrig]

Where did you find bonnet deep water, Bigrig? I'd have to do something about Silver's air intake and breathers before having a go at that depth :-)

Last time we were at Bribie, 04OFF was saying that he missed the second lagoon crossing running as it did last year. You know the one - he took some spectacular pics of people who were dicing with the tide.

The second and third lagoons mate at high tide ... bloody deep and moving at a rate of knots - not for the feint hearted and not done without appropriate review and risk assessment.

[taslucas]

The second and third lagoons mate at high tide ... bloody deep and moving at a rate of knots - not for the feint hearted and not done without appropriate review and risk assessment.

Check out the vid I posted in the media area. It's the last time I went down the west coast. Lot of rain and a beach crossing

Lucas

[Bigrig]

Getting excited - 2 more sleeps till the new bar goes on, 3 more sleeps till the winch goes on ...

Should be ready to rock (finally!!) for the comp on the weekend ..

[Tweakedoffroad]

Hopefully the camera is fully charged

[growler2058]

Photos Photos Photos and more Photos

[Timbo]

You looked into the world of intercoolers any more Biggus Riggus?

[Bigrig]

You looked into the world of intercoolers any more Biggus Riggus?

No boss - going to leave the XR6 one on there and if an issue when I get the electronic boost controller, I'll be going water/meth injection to cool things down - cheaper and easier alternative to swapping out the intercooler after all that effort (and truth be told, I'm not convinced it's having the issue truth be told - they rate them to 260kw and behind a large 6 engine, and I'm nowhere near that currently, so thinking it's more the "setup" than the intercooler itself ...)

[Bigrig]

Photos Photos Photos and more Photos

You should know me by now mate!!! lol - there'll be plenty - gone thicker OD tube also now so it should beef it up a bit too (centre hoop and main front cross bar is now 60mm - currently both 45mm; and the rest is 45mm - currently 40mm).


Hopefully the camera is fully charged

It'll be running hot mate!!!

[Dark 1]

After seeing this beast in the flesh i can attest to what a weapon it is and that any thing scotty does to it will only make better.

[Bigrig]

After seeing this beast in the flesh i can attest to what a weapon it is and that any thing scotty does to it will only make better.

Sincere thanks mate - coming from someone who 'used' to own an awesome rig, I take that as a real compliment!! lol

Outside of electronic boost controller, I sorta think the build is coming to an end ... lots of cosmetic stuff to do, but I've hit a threshold on serious mods and am pretty happy with where it's at ...

By the way, returned an 18.11 litres per hundred for the first full tank!!! That included some 100+ klms of low tyre pressure and sand driving, some highway driving, but the rest around town!!! Very pleased ...

[taslucas]

good to hear mate:)

[Robo]

That intercooler you have, are the ends where hose clamp to/over it rather thick?.
I found on my car that this caused alot of turbulence may-be back pressure on inlet port.
I cut a car wash sponge making a round plug and pushed a little way into in/out ports of cooler, coated this with spray grease to seal this over and ported them out, " tapering " in/out ends of cooler .
keeping tilted down carefully used long-nose pliers removed 1 sponge and cleaned up, made a through job to ensure nothing left behind to fall inside, and then cleaned the other the same .

this made a notable increase to torque.

[Bigrig]

That intercooler you have, are the ends where hose clamp to/over it rather thick?.
I found on my car that this caused alot of turbulence may-be back pressure on inlet port.
I cut a car wash sponge making a round plug and pushed a little way into in/out ports of cooler, coated this with spray grease to seal this over and ported them out, " tapering " in/out ends of cooler .
keeping tilted down carefully used long-nose pliers removed 1 sponge and cleaned up, made a through job to ensure nothing left behind to fall inside, and then cleaned the other the same .

this made a notable increase to torque.

The inlet and outlet are 60mm - think the tube itself is 2.5-3mm making an inner diameter of 54mm. I'm producing a heap of torque at 7.5lbs of boost, but more than happy to try this down the track once the electronic boost controller goes on and I know what I'm dealing with (should be thumping out around 650-700nm at the rear wheels!!) - appreciate the info mate!!

One more sleep till front bar and winch go on ... was supposed to be today, but either way, very excited!!

I'm a simple creature!! lol

[Bigrig]

Well, here tis ... new bar and winch - 240's mounted on top of centre hoop and a tight squeeze all round!!! Winch isn't connected as yet coz I need a custom bracket - will do that next week. Gotta fix up the number plate mount, but on there at least to keep the boys in blue happy ... that said, me likey!!!!

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[taslucas]

Looking good. Me likey too!

Lucas

[growler2058]

Sh1t hot mate looks a little bit light weight? Hahahahha just takin the p1ss from the other thread looks heaps tuffr

[97_gq_lwb]

Looks good is it my eyes deceiving me or do you need a wheel alignment bad

[taslucas]

Looks good is it my eyes deceiving me or do you need a wheel alignment bad

doesnt matter which way the front wheels are pointing, the tank has enough grunt to keep em off the ground most the time! lol

[Robo]

doesnt matter which way the front wheels are pointing, the tank has enough grunt to keep em off the ground most the time! Lol

I like how you think .
Nice bar work.
hows the air get in though.
still likey lots.

[Bigrig]

Sh1t hot mate looks a little bit light weight? Hahahahha just takin the p1ss from the other thread looks heaps tuffr

It's about 12kgs heavier than the old bar - add a 40kg winch to that, and it's like driving a different car!!!

[Bigrig]

Looks good is it my eyes deceiving me or do you need a wheel alignment bad

Hahaha ... nah mate, just the angle of the dangle so to speak!!! Just had an alignment etc ...

[Bigrig]

doesnt matter which way the front wheels are pointing, the tank has enough grunt to keep em off the ground most the time! lol

True that old mate!!!! Both wheels off the ground in the shots from the weekend at springs!!!

Have to get used to it now - it has heaps of grunt, and on beer o'clock hill, if anything, I actually had to get off the skinny pedal - was hitting it too fast in low range (with reduction gears!!) at about half throttle!!! Power/torque is no longer an issue off road for sure -- now its just my crap driving left as an excuse!!!! lmao

[Bigrig]

I like how you think .
Nice bar work.
hows the air get in though.
still likey lots.

Funny thing (and I have a theory - a bad one, but a theory none the less). When I had all the lights off, it was running hotter than previous (no joke), and I literally spoke of this to two people the day I got it fitted, as when I put the new bar on and mounted the lights, it ran cooler again?????

Soooo ... my (bad) theory is that in some instances, spotties etc actually cause turbulent air in front of the grill in same principle as those Hiclones etc, and allows the "thinner" air behind the small vacuum caused to get in easier ... I can't figure it out otherwise - we're talking running at half on the temp gauge without spotties, and no more than just under/around a third with the spotties .... I'm certainly confused and would love an alternate explanation ...

[Clunk]

Liking the new bar work..... same but different, chunkier. Nice one bigrig

[Robo]

That's interesting about air flow.
Possibly because of extra airflow going under car is scavaging what air is going threw engine bay more so with spots on.
Without lights you may be getting an air lock so to speak.
Getting an invisible wall of air preventing air flow threw engine bay, cancelling one another out.
Result to much air not being able to exhaust so to speak.

FYI
Its said those big mud-flaps owners have fitted that run across the back their cars actually interfere with this air flow and cause over heating problems not enough air flow under car to scavaging hot air from engine bay, big air buffer caused by restriction "out back" .

cheers.

[Bigrig]

Well - just dropped Tank off for yet another bout of work!!!

Getting a couple of flat spots ironed out in the fuel map, and low and behold when we got to the park on the weekend, the front seal on the water pump poo'd itself and is leaking, so a new one going in.

On top of that, the gremlins are back and the TC isn't locking up again (manual switch isn't working either, nor the temp gauge) - the switch and gauge are on the same fuse, so can understand that may have blown, but again, as to what's causing this constant issue .. no idea ...

As ridiculous as it sounds, I hope the TC is either stuffed, or the solenoid is stuffed .. straight replacement for new part and move on ... spending 3 days going through electrical issues to find a loose wire/faulty connection is not my idea of "value for money" ...

And just so it's on record, even with Tank still a little under the weather, he can still climb straight over the top of other makes and models!!!!! :smileyvault-cute-bi
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[Dark 1]

Looking good Scotty, definitely a tuff ride, good luck sorting out the last of the gremlins.

[97_gq_lwb]

I have never looked at the patrol wiring but i remember a commodore a few years ago that had a transmission fuse blowing and it ended up being the trailer plug wiring in the boot shorting on the reverse light circuit.

[Bigrig]

I have never looked at the patrol wiring but i remember a commodore a few years ago that had a transmission fuse blowing and it ended up being the trailer plug wiring in the boot shorting on the reverse light circuit.

You're the second bloke to tell me that mate ... something to be checked for sure as it did play up once and was blowing the indicator fuse all the time. Would it be able to affect the TC solenoid though??

[taslucas]

True that old mate!!!! Both wheels off the ground in the shots from the weekend at springs!!!

Have to get used to it now - it has heaps of grunt, and on beer o'clock hill, if anything, I actually had to get off the skinny pedal - was hitting it too fast in low range (with reduction gears!!) at about half throttle!!! Power/torque is no longer an issue off road for sure -- now its just my crap driving left as an excuse!!!! lmao

Oooh damn! having to get used to heaps more power must REALLY SUCK!!!!

[taslucas]

Well - just dropped Tank off for yet another bout of work!!!

Getting a couple of flat spots ironed out in the fuel map, and low and behold when we got to the park on the weekend, the front seal on the water pump poo'd itself and is leaking, so a new one going in.

On top of that, the gremlins are back and the TC isn't locking up again (manual switch isn't working either, nor the temp gauge) - the switch and gauge are on the same fuse, so can understand that may have blown, but again, as to what's causing this constant issue .. no idea ...

As ridiculous as it sounds, I hope the TC is either stuffed, or the solenoid is stuffed .. straight replacement for new part and move on ... spending 3 days going through electrical issues to find a loose wire/faulty connection is not my idea of "value for money" ...

And just so it's on record, even with Tank still a little under the weather, he can still climb straight over the top of other makes and models!!!!! :smileyvault-cute-bi


3 Days???? I been chasing the damn fault with my TC for about 5 months!!!!

[97_gq_lwb]

If it is blowing a transmision fuse i'd say it would cause the tc to not work at all.
I remember wiring up a torque converter lockup switch on a gq about 8 years ago from memory it put power to the lock up solenoid an easy test would be to do that yourself and work back from there.
I have also heard of the switch in the gear selector being at fault so worth checking that as well.
The trans computer being where it is does make it prone to water damage and i would also check it for dry solder joints and the plugs for corrosion they are a common cause of intermittent issues.
Their is an electrical contact cleaner lubricant available from most electronic stores like jaycar dick smith etc.

[Bigrig]

Oooh damn! having to get used to heaps more power must REALLY SUCK!!!!

Hahaha ... yep, it's awful!!!! lmao

[Bigrig]

If it is blowing a transmision fuse i'd say it would cause the tc to not work at all.
I remember wiring up a torque converter lockup switch on a gq about 8 years ago from memory it put power to the lock up solenoid an easy test would be to do that yourself and work back from there.
I have also heard of the switch in the gear selector being at fault so worth checking that as well.
The trans computer being where it is does make it prone to water damage and i would also check it for dry solder joints and the plugs for corrosion they are a common cause of intermittent issues.
Their is an electrical contact cleaner lubricant available from most electronic stores like jaycar dick smith etc.

Outstanding - thanks mate!!!

[97_gq_lwb]

I am not 100 % sure of this but i think from memory the trans computer on the carb models has a few factors used to calculate the tc lockup as well tps vs speed etc so anyone else having trouble it might be worth checking the tps with a multimeter to make sure it is working properly as well.

[taslucas]

If it is blowing a transmision fuse i'd say it would cause the tc to not work at all.
I remember wiring up a torque converter lockup switch on a gq about 8 years ago from memory it put power to the lock up solenoid an easy test would be to do that yourself and work back from there.
I have also heard of the switch in the gear selector being at fault so worth checking that as well.
The trans computer being where it is does make it prone to water damage and i would also check it for dry solder joints and the plugs for corrosion they are a common cause of intermittent issues.
Their is an electrical contact cleaner lubricant available from most electronic stores like jaycar dick smith etc.

Thats about everything i havent done. Awesome mate, i will be checking all those things. Cheers:)

[taslucas]

Sorry big, but i am thirsty for new ideas!!:hijacked:

[Bigrig]

I am not 100 % sure of this but i think from memory the trans computer on the carb models has a few factors used to calculate the tc lockup as well tps vs speed etc so anyone else having trouble it might be worth checking the tps with a multimeter to make sure it is working properly as well.

Thanks mate - checked that one, so hopefully one thing ruled out.

[NissanGQ4.2]

Thanks mate - checked that one, so hopefully one thing ruled out.

Time 2 pull it out and and rebuild it!!!!!!!!!

[Bigrig]

Time 2 pull it out and and rebuild it!!!!!!!!!

Hahaha ... ummmm .... maybe not 'just' yet mate!!!

[Robo]

Easy fixed bigrig.

Dump the auto and go for a manual transmission.
Problem solved. Lol.

[Bigrig]

Easy fixed bigrig.

Dump the auto and go for a manual transmission.
Problem solved. Lol.

Only problem is, I love my auto!! lol

[taslucas]

Only problem is, I love my auto!! lol

X2 they are great!

so whats the tc doing on yours big? is it just not locking up at all?

[Robo]

Dont suffer the related issues.
Should easily handle all the extra torque you have now.
Even give extra power as auto's lose suck rear wheel power and torque.
Better fuel economy.
A bolt on upgrade, so to speak.
Better brake response.
Lighter in weight increased pay load.
Easy to service.
But if you drive around town I agree an auto is certainly easer to drive in traffic.
Yes possibly quicker gear change in auto.
With all the extra go you have now, that might not be such a problem anymore.


You'll love this, even the Missus by her own choice will only drive a manual. lol

[taslucas]

Dont suffer the related issues.
Should easily handle all the extra torque you have now.
Even give extra power as auto's lose suck rear wheel power and torque.
Better fuel economy.
A bolt on upgrade, so to speak.
Better brake response.
Lighter in weight increased pay load.
Easy to service.
But if you drive around town I agree an auto is certainly easer to drive in traffic.
Yes possibly quicker gear change in auto.
With all the extra go you have now, that might not be such a problem anymore.


You'll love this, even the Missus by her own choice will only drive a manual. lol

Ya forgot the main thing tho.....Autos are better for 4wding!

My girlfriend prefers a manual too. But she's not halfway up a muddy hill lol

[Robo]

I can't comment on off Rd lack of time off the black stuff.
Would of thought it pretty even.
I take onboard your comment.
I guess was looking at it from manily a mechanical point of view before.
Not trying to stir the pot please don't go there, but.
If going off Rd most of the comments thought really stack up off Rd.
I forget to mention, no transmission cooler to worry about.
Radiator not loaded up doing 2 jobs unless separate cooler fitted.
another system to worry about and more cost.
Trying to look at whole pic now since it been pointed out to me, that's all.
Please explain why better,I can guess but not the same as going by someone's real world experience.
Always learning.
I admit to saying and would prefer if I had to drive in say Sydney type traffic, an auto would be the go.

cheers

[growler2058]

Autos are good for people that don't have good gear choice or control hahahhahahahahahhahaha sorry couldn't help meself

[97_gq_lwb]

I'd prefer an auto off road in the mud it just makes things easier.
Nothing like missing a gear in a manual halfway through a big sludge pit you just want to slap yourself .

[taslucas]

Autos are good for people that don't have good gear choice or control hahahhahahahahahhahaha sorry couldn't help meself

Haha I have good gear choice, D is for Don't stop! Lol

Lucas

[taslucas]

I'd prefer an auto off road in the mud it just makes things easier.
Nothing like missing a gear in a manual halfway through a big sludge pit you just want to slap yourself .

Even if you don't miss a gear, going back a gear and releasing the clutch is very hard to do without breaking traction.
When momentum is key, changing gears is your enemy!

So many Hijacks on bigrigs thread! Love it! Lmfao

Lucas

[Robo]

Autos are good for people that don't have good gear choice or control hahahhahahahahahhahaha sorry couldn't help meself

Me also .
Skill is a thought I had but didn't want to offend.
asked for an explanation, I'll stick with man trans for now .lol.
good stuff, I like it.
Sorry, Autobots.

[Bigrig]

As per many adventures (which are posted up here) I'll pit my auto on sand, mud, and rock against any comparable truck with a manual ... simple as that!! lol

Yep, potentially more costly to maintain (and this is my first auto by the way over 6 fourbies including 3 other patrols) but I am either lazy, stupid, or both ... because now I have the heavy duty valve body, and the reduction gears, it is simply superb ... Remember, I had the TC problems last year (just hasn't been rectified by tightening the band etc) and could just be an electrical problem.

Oh, and by the way ... can't wait to go out wheeling with you growlers!!!!!! lmao

[Robo]

All good Bigrig.
I do understand different people want different things and have there own driving style etc.
haven a bit of a joke.
But was genuinely interested into why an auto was preferred off Rd in some circumstances.
As one day I may decide to leave the black stuff behind me.
Cheers

[NissanGQ4.2]

I admit to saying and would prefer if I had to drive in say Sydney type traffic, an auto would be the go.

Whats wrong with Sydney traffic???????????????? If they get in the way I just run them off the road *LMAO*

Auto's all the way................I'm just lazy :)

[Bigrig]

All good Bigrig.
I do understand different people want different things and have there own driving style etc.
haven a bit of a joke.
But was genuinely interested into why an auto was preferred off Rd in some circumstances.
As one day I may decide to leave the black stuff behind me.
Cheers

All good indeed mate!!! I give way too much crap to everyone else to not expect it to be flung at me!!!! lmao

Just love the ease of an auto - yep. I may be lazy, old, naive, etc, etc, but in reality, it's just so easy to drive, no riding clutches through rock work in creeks etc, no up and down gear on sand and mud (and no loss of momentum as per Lucas' post), and allows plenty of ability to answer the phone, whilst cracking a tinny, as I'm adjusting a mirror, and putting my sun visor down without having to worry about changing gears!!!! LMFAO!!!

And no, for any crazy kids out there, I don't condone talking on your mobile or drinking whilst at the wheel .. Feels plain wrong that I feel I even need to add that these days ... But you can adjust your mirrors and sun visors at will though ... lol

[Timbo]

I've never ever thought that Auto's would be good 4WD'ing. Always stuck to my "manual" guns.

While there are a few pro's to having a manual, there are certainly just as many pro's to having an auto.

All comes down to driving preference and suitability. I can get a bad back sometimes with an old injury plus I have arthritis in both hips. Pushing a clutch in all the time can give me some grief.

But using a manual is just so visceral! lol.

[butters]

What about riding the brake down a hill because you've got an auto ;)

Easier to have it in that gear so you can really focus on that tree you're gonna hit :D

[NissanGQ4.2]

What about riding the brake down a hill because you've got an auto ;)


What are brakes and what does one use them for *LMAO*

[taslucas]

Autos are good for people that don't have good gear choice or control hahahhahahahahahhahaha sorry couldn't help meself

hahaha you had to add your 2 cents ya gear jockey!!!
When your doing big tracks and hills, it doesnt matter what gear you select, your gonna need to change it before ya get to the top!! lol

[taslucas]

What are brakes and what does one use them for *LMAO*

I break in my trol all the time........................................i break indicators, i break trees, i break traction...............lmao

[NissanGQ4.2]

I break in my trol all the time........................................i break indicators, i break trees, i break traction...............lmao

Lucas, you forgot 2 mention gearbox *LMAO*

OK Scottie, ur a mod, think its time to clean your thread up from all these hijacks *L*

[taslucas]

Lucas, you forgot 2 mention gearbox *LMAO*

OK Scottie, ur a mod, think its time to clean your thread up from all these hijacks *L*

hahaha your quick!! but, i didnt break it, it came that way!!!!
:hijacked::hijacked::hijacked:

[growler2058]

As per many adventures (which are posted up here) I'll pit my auto on sand, mud, and rock against any comparable truck with a manual ... simple as that!! lol

Yep, potentially more costly to maintain (and this is my first auto by the way over 6 fourbies including 3 other patrols) but I am either lazy, stupid, or both ... because now I have the heavy duty valve body, and the reduction gears, it is simply superb ... Remember, I had the TC problems last year (just hasn't been rectified by tightening the band etc) and could just be an electrical problem.

Oh, and by the way ... can't wait to go out wheeling with you growlers!!!!!! lmao

Same same my fine furry friend I can't wait either! But to make it fair you should also bring dhuck and Benny to back you up AAAAA HAHAHAHAHA

[growler2058]

Haha I have good gear choice, D is for Don't stop! Lol

Lucas

Be careful of the P for pass mate hahaha

[Bigrig]

What about riding the brake down a hill because you've got an auto ;)

Easier to have it in that gear so you can really focus on that tree you're gonna hit :D

Who needs brakes when you've got 85% reduction gears?? Diesel manuals roll down hill faster than mine!!!

[Bigrig]

Same same my fine furry friend I can't wait either! But to make it fair you should also bring dhuck and Benny to back you up AAAAA HAHAHAHAHA

LMFAO!!!!!!

You MUST be toying now!!!!! hahahahahahaaaa

[growler2058]

LMFAO!!!!!!

You MUST be toying now!!!!! hahahahahahaaaa

Hahahahahhahahahahaha................NUP hahahhahahahahahhahaha just fishin it's been a while since I wet a line;-)

[Bigrig]

Hahahahahhahahahahaha................NUP hahahhahahahahahhahaha just fishin it's been a while since I wet a line;-)

Wet away big boy!!!!! lmao

We'll see ...

[taslucas]

Wet away big boy!!!!! lmao

We'll see ...

I think its time you two went onto the PM channel!!!!

[growler2058]

I think its time you two went onto the PM channel!!!!

Hahahahahahahahhahahahahaa

[growler2058]

Wet away big boy!!!!! lmao

We'll see ...

Sounds like ya have;-)

[butters]

Who needs brakes when you've got 85% reduction gears?? Diesel manuals roll down hill faster than mine!!!

Mmmmmmmmmm nice!

[Robo]

sorry big fella.
I only asked why auto, and 3 pages later.
ahh it's all good when it's aimed at someone else.

[Clunk]

sorry big fella.
I only asked why auto, and 3 pages later.
ahh it's all good when it's aimed at someone else.

Yeah. These guys sure, can waffle on hey hahahahaha

[nowoolies]

nuttin like a BIG hijack hay hahahahahaha

[Clunk]

nuttin like a BIG hijack hay hahahahahahaare you on drugs mate!!!!???? Lol

[Robo]

Hay Bigrig.

Came across these, good price and would really make the your old girl sing a new tune.
Ebay stainless header. $521 + $134 freight.
Most of this stuff is usually 2 to 2.5mm max these are 3mm thick pipe.
claims fit tb/d42 and tb45.
Think I may just have to buy 1 myself.
Item 300665637956.
Cheers

[Bigrig]

Hay Bigrig.

Came across these, good price and would really make the your old girl sing a new tune.
Ebay stainless header. $521 + $134 freight.
Most of this stuff is usually 2 to 2.5mm max these are 3mm thick pipe.
claims fit tb/d42 and tb45.
Think I may just have to buy 1 myself.
Item 300665637956.
Cheers

They look a bit trick ... thanks mate!! Looks like the turbo mount sits out a bit further than the standard TD42 manifold I'm using ... would love to see a set fitted (yep, don't want to be the guinea pig!!! lmao).

[Robo]

Do ya find any run-on with the new turbo setup?.
Takes a while for engine braking effect to assist slowing vehicle when you lift off the go peddle.
Not necessarily a bad thing.
Means less lag when you stomp back on go peddle.
But at same time less "instant" brake effect.
Turbo still supplying enough air to inlet manifold to prevent inlet vacume causing engine brake.
Another reason/effect turbo's have in freeing up an engine to spin when you want it to go.
Wondering what you have now, so I can figure this into my build while sorting mine.
That stainless manifold I just showed you probably helps creates more run-on compared to a std TD42 manifold.
Not preaching to ya, just trying to figure and maybe help others understand a turbo set-up.
Cheers

[Bigrig]

Do ya find any run-on with the new turbo setup?.
Takes a while for engine braking effect to assist slowing vehicle when you lift off the go peddle.
Not necessarily a bad thing.
Means less lag when you stomp back on go peddle.
But at same time less "instant" brake effect.
Turbo still supplying enough air to inlet manifold to prevent inlet vacume causing engine brake.
Another reason/effect turbo's have in freeing up an engine to spin when you want it to go.
Wondering what you have now, so I can figure this into my build while sorting mine.
That stainless manifold I just showed you probably helps creates more run-on compared to a std TD42 manifold.
Not preaching to ya, just trying to figure and maybe help others understand a turbo set-up.
Cheers

Not sure on the "run on" effect truth be told mate, but getting the new electronic boost controller put on as I type this, so will take note when I get it back.

Appreciate the thoughts and comments - definitely keep em coming!

[Bigrig]

Just because it was its first 'real' outing since all the work has been completed (well, nearly completed!! lol).

Ran like a dream except for not starting on command!!! Ignition barrel has had it me thinks ... Other than that, power to burn and would take a mortician to get the smile off my face if I happened to kark it whilst out on Sunday!!!

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2012/03/6.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2012/03/7.jpg

[DX grunt]

When you kark it, I'll buy it off ya estate for a hundred bucks.....then part it out. lolololol

[Bigrig]

When you kark it, I'll buy it off ya estate for a hundred bucks.....then part it out. lolololol

Hahahaha ... not laughing at the "buying the car for a hundred bucks" comment (even though that's just plain ridiculous!! lol), but at the thought that I'd have an 'estate'!!!!!! LMFAO

You've given me inspiration to achieve now mate!!!! lol

[Oversize]

Lookin' good Bigrig. Lovin' the pics...

[Robo]

Bury him in his toy!.

Fastest way for him to get where he's going.
lol

[Bigrig]

Bury him in his toy!.

Fastest way for him to get where he's going.
lol

Saves on a coffin!!! lmao

How cool would that be?? I'd be dead of course, so I wouldn't know just how cool, but even so!!!!! lol

Wonder how much a 'Patrol sized' burial lot would cost ... I'd have to go that path, as I've never seen a furnace big enough to fit one!!!

[GQUTERUS]

Words cannot describe how cool this thing is, and the turbo flutter is just epic! Great work dude.

[Robo]

Hay Bigtorque.
Glad It's working out for ya.
Maybe we'll have to start calling you Smiley instead ,LOL
Good to hear the only problem now is a key barrel.

Looking at build pic's, is BOV returned, or free air.
ya know free air will have the boys in blue looking for pen.

[rusty_nail]

good to see it finally dirty big fella! well done!!!

[Bigrig]

Hay Bigtorque.
Glad It's working out for ya.
Maybe we'll have to start calling you Smiley instead ,LOL
Good to hear the only problem now is a key barrel.

Looking at build pic's, is BOV returned, or free air.
ya know free air will have the boys in blue looking for pen.

Haha - thanks mate.

Nah, it's returned, that's why my snorkel sounds like a growling lion!!!! lmao

[pngpatroling]

Very nice...l like it. Neat, tidy and tough.

[Bigrig]

Well, as per the other post, thanks to Rod the starting problem is sorted ... except my starter has seemed to sh1t itself again ... sounds very crook!!! lol

I'll get that irond out, but other than that, just itching to get it out for another flogging (ahem, I mean 'test run' !! lol).

Through another member on here, I have a carbon fibre high flow air box on the way, so will be interested to see what, if any, performance changes come form that.

Lastly, I've decided to bite the bullet and get the scoops put into the bonnet to let some heat out from the turbo. Picking up 2 GU style scoops from Raider Industries and will be putting them on next week - will update with snaps once done.

[Dark 1]

Cool GU parts that'll make Tank go good.lol

[AB]

Cool GU parts that'll make Tank go good.lol

Atleast It's there not Yota parts old mate...LMAO

[Robo]

So you basically have a new car now hay.
or to cut a long story short what's original. lmao

[Bigrig]

So you basically have a new car now hay.
or to cut a long story short what's original. lmao

Lmao!!!

Ummm ... original stuff .... Probably just the panels and glass!!!

[Bigrig]

Righto - have been thinking about getting a scoop to try and cool things down at least a bit with the turbo. Spoke to FRP at Kippa Ring today, and he advised me away from the bonnet scoop - he does a fair bit of off roading, and has a sponsored comp truck also. He reckons he's seen a great deal more improvement from installing "gills" as per below. Essentially allows the heat the escape when not moving, but when driving, the force of air flow over the top of them actually "drags" the hot air out, removes the air pocket inside and lets more airflow through the grill also as a result (meaning cooler engine etc also). Sort of solves the whole 'mount a scoop forwards or backwards debate also - in the shot below, the fins face backwards, so don't "swallow" water as such on creek crossings, but allow air to actually flow past the vents as speed causing the dragging effect).

These were cheaper than the scoop so certainly didn't push me down a path of going something different to line his own pockets, which seems bloody good of him.

They are scheduled to go on Monday of next week, so I will update on the result post that. Fingers crossed!!!!

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2012/03/19.jpg

[Parra]

i reckon they will look pretty smexy.

as always - piccies!

[Airstrike]

They look very nice TEXT sent lol

[Bigrig]

i reckon they will look pretty smexy.

as always - piccies!

Will do fella!!!

[NissanGQ4.2]

Looking forward to the pics, 2 see what the gills look like in the panel.

So how is the gearbox holding up......TANK still moving forward and backwards????

[Bigrig]

Looking forward to the pics, 2 see what the gills look like in the panel.

So how is the gearbox holding up......TANK still moving forward and backwards????

Haha ... still has the ability to mate, but not sure if that means the box is holding up!!

Looks like it's all coming out anyway to replace the torque converter -- going to give it a 'tickle up' whilst it's out, but now have shudders in the TC when hot and at lower speed (80-90) which is somewhat indicative of the TC clutch being shot ...

Ahhhh ... one day, it'll just work like a team and do things my way!!! lmao. Until then, I'm at it's whim!!

[Dark 1]

Atleast It's there not Yota parts old mate...LMAO

Yeh go on rub it in my face.

[Bigrig]

Yeh go on rub it in my face.

Yes ... yes we will !!!!!

LMFAO !!!!!

[Robo]

So what's new Bigrig any dyno figures yet, or waiting on transmission?.
Those vents where and how much?.
Are they on yet? pics pls.

[Ben-e-boy]

have a crack at one of these turbo nappies I told you about last time I was at yours

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2012/04/3.jpg

[frenzy]

Looking forward to seeing the tank in action again soon. Looks like you've done bloody heaps!

[Robo]

Those nappies, I heard they can cook a turbo at shut down, heat soak problem or something, is this true at all?.

[GQUTERUS]

Gday rob,

Turbo beanies trap the heat, when shutting the engine down the car should idle for a set period of time to let the cooler water and oil to pass through the turbo. This stops the oil and water almost boiling inside your turbo killing your bearings.
A turbo timer does this trick automatically.

You mention heat soak. ( Remembering that turbos beanies only block radiant heat, not conductive ) Best described as heat transferring from the exhaust side of the turbo to the compressor side of the turbo heating your air that's being fed into your engine. Everyone has their theory on how much it does heat the compresser core up.

A intercooler will eliminate that, as the "warm" air that's now being heated up by the turbo passes through the intercooler.

The plus side to a turbo beanie is it traps that heat into the turbo, and we all know heat= energy. Some even go as far as saying that the turbo will spool faster. I don't think the difference would be noticeable, but im no expert.

[Chappa]

We have them beanie's on every thing at work and they have caused that many issue's it's not funny with melting things and fire's from oil leaks getting soaked up by nappy, conditions are alot different to underground and gear is differnt to patrol's but just be careful of were all the heat goes!

[Robo]

Yeah I'm aware of the trouble they can cause.
just trying to be nice about it.
get someone to back me up.
and let other know they are a problem.

[Bigrig]

It's official ... I won't be getting one!!

That said, bigger turbo planned to go on it as the current one too small and generating too much heat ... Going to a 3.25" exhaust also, and complete remap of the fuel ... sucker for punishment really!! lol

The new turbo is a Garrett, but insure of model ....

Big power and torque are being achieved, but the heat produced from the small turbo is ridiculous, so not seeking more power as such (should be a side benefit though) bit more efficiency.

[nissannewby]

Something in the range of a GT35/40 i think it is, similar to the xr6turbos?

[GQUTERUS]

Hey Scott have you already got the turbo? if so post up the serial number and i can tell you model and size.

If you haven't already brought one, are you open to other turbos apart from Garrett? Only reason i ask is Precision turbos make some really really good pieces including anti surge compresser housing and Billet core!

What rear housing are you going to use? 1.06? or .82?

[Robo]

Turbo cover accelerate cooked oil in turbo galleries from extra heat soak.
heard storys of guys removing them after a run to help prevent troubles.
Kinda a pain you know where !!!

Bonnet vents should be helping to keep things under control bigrig ?

[Bigrig]

Hey lads - haven't got the vents in, but they go in this week, so yeah mate, that should help with the temps. Definitely too small a turbo also, so going to go something bigger so it doesn't struggle as much ..

Les - know nothing about turbo models mate, so any assistance in that space would be greatly appreciated!!!

and fitted the carbon fibre dash pod and gauges this week also (oil temp and boost).

15265

With lights off

15266

With lights on

15267

And passed the dreaded 300K mark!!! But he's still going strong!!!!

15268

[taslucas]

Hey lads - haven't got the vents in, but they go in this week, so yeah mate, that should help with the temps. Definitely too small a turbo also, so going to go something bigger so it doesn't struggle as much ..

Les - know nothing about turbo models mate, so any assistance in that space would be greatly appreciated!!!

and fitted the carbon fibre dash pod and gauges this week also (oil temp and boost).

15265

With lights off

15266

With lights on

15267

And passed the dreaded 300K mark!!! But he's still going strong!!!!

15268


I like the fancy pants disco lights!

Passed the 300000 mark but you had another engine fitted when you put the turbo set up on didnt you? Was it a reco one?

[Bigrig]

I like the fancy pants disco lights!

Passed the 300000 mark but you had another engine fitted when you put the turbo set up on didnt you? Was it a reco one?

Nope, it was a bogger from the other truck, and have done a fair bit of work to bring it to life ... still have my old one as a spare also. Not sure where his mileage was at truth be told, but it was the same vintage, so I'll just stick to the speedo reading!! lmao

[taslucas]

They sure do rack up the k's, and love it!

Mine is stock apart from a reco head about 6 years ago ( With receipts-before i bought it)

Go the Boggers!

[Dark 1]

Are we still meeting up @ frazer big fella or are the bugs not ironed out yet.

[kowalski]

Bigrig, thats one helluva car unable to overlook on the road. i like it. clean lines, big, and hopefully muddy within the following days :)

[Bigrig]

Bigrig, thats one helluva car unable to overlook on the road. i like it. clean lines, big, and hopefully muddy within the following days :)

Thanks mate - still a work in progress, but getting there ...

[Bigrig]

Are we still meeting up @ frazer big fella or are the bugs not ironed out yet.

Ironing out bugs mate ... but I'm trying!!!

[Silver]

Ironing out bugs mate ... but I'm trying!!!

That steering wheel looks pretty tidy Scotty, as do the gauges.

Keep on keeping on squishing the bugs - you've made a heap of progress in not all that much time, I reckon

[Bigrig]

That steering wheel looks pretty tidy Scotty, as do the gauges.

Keep on keeping on squishing the bugs - you've made a heap of progress in not all that much time, I reckon

Thanks mate - the gauges are about to multiply with a pyro and air intake temp gauges going in also ... so lucky me, I need to get a 4 gauge pod rather than the one I bought!!! lol

Rear windows come out next week to be replaced by fixed glass with rubber frames (from Aussie AutoMoulds), and the new flex plate arrives next week also, so the gearbox comes out, new flex plate, new torque converter and new lockup solenoid going in. Hopefully that'll be the end of my TC grief (being dramatic of course, not that painful as I have the TC lockup switch but I keep forgetting to turn it off and wonder why I have lost power at low speed!!! lmao .... what a goose!!!).

New seats in the next month or two, and then the turbo and exhaust upgrade ... these seats that were posted up the other day would be a treat, but costly through Mr Nissan no doubt ...

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2012/05/6.jpg

Thinking super flex arms down the track also to give the front end more flex so it sits flatter (photo below shows what I mean - heaps in the rear, but the front just not moving as well as I'd like just yet) - front not flexing as well means car on angle ... not to my liking ...

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2012/05/7.jpg

Then a rear locker, 6" Off Road Boss suspension, 35's and who knows what other goodies ...

so yeah, it's definitely getting there, but not where I want it just yet. Without a doubt it's not far off (next 12 months or so) being de-registered and being towed out to locations for a play (but that means I get to buy a street friendly GU!!).

[taslucas]

Can I have some of your money!?





Tap, crackle, pop

[Bigrig]

Can I have some of your money!?





Tap, crackle, pop

Hahahah ... after the wife, the 4 kids, the rent, the credit cards, the bank, the wife's Jeep repayments, the truck mods, and assorted other creditors .. sure ... why not ... it'll be something like $6.47 remaining I reckon ... lmao

Not that costly mate - it'll owe me about $40-42K I predict once done (that includes the original buy price) and that's over a few years ... the same as someone buying one for that price and paying it off over that time in my thinking ... I bought a bucket, and have done it up - spending as I have it, no different than taking a loan and buying one and making fortnightly repayments ...

I still look at other peoples rigs and setups and drool ... what I'd give for a top condition TD42t GU with a pile of goodies on it ... love my GQ no doubt (have had two GU's previously) but its for play, a GU in my world is for awesome touring setups (still mighty capable and strong as a skunks odour, but 'prettier' and more comfortable for the family for touring --- I'll have the best of both worlds then .. but that's a pipe dream currently!! lol).

[Ben-e-boy]

Thanks mate - the gauges are about to multiply with a pyro and air intake temp gauges going in also ... so lucky me, I need to get a 4 gauge pod rather than the one I bought!!! lol

Rear windows come out next week to be replaced by fixed glass with rubber frames (from Aussie AutoMoulds), and the new flex plate arrives next week also, so the gearbox comes out, new flex plate, new torque converter and new lockup solenoid going in. Hopefully that'll be the end of my TC grief (being dramatic of course, not that painful as I have the TC lockup switch but I keep forgetting to turn it off and wonder why I have lost power at low speed!!! lmao .... what a goose!!!).

New seats in the next month or two, and then the turbo and exhaust upgrade ... these seats that were posted up the other day would be a treat, but costly through Mr Nissan no doubt ...

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2012/05/6.jpg

Thinking super flex arms down the track also to give the front end more flex so it sits flatter (photo below shows what I mean - heaps in the rear, but the front just not moving as well as I'd like just yet) - front not flexing as well means car on angle ... not to my liking ...

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2012/05/7.jpg

Then a rear locker, 6" Off Road Boss suspension, 35's and who knows what other goodies ...

so yeah, it's definitely getting there, but not where I want it just yet. Without a doubt it's not far off (next 12 months or so) being de-registered and being towed out to locations for a play (but that means I get to buy a street friendly GU!!).


only 6 inch shocks. you can go more than that!!!! dont be soft.

[Bigrig]

only 6 inch shocks. you can go more than that!!!! dont be soft.

We can't all be as "long" as you Benny!!! lmao

[Ben-e-boy]

We can't all be as "long" as you Benny!!! lmao

I know that but what about the shocks lmao.

you should be able to fit the 690mm extended ones in??

[taslucas]

Yeah I also went down that path...I'd rather get a cheaper first purchase price and slowly build it up rather than pay off loan repayments and still try to mod it. Only thing is, I seem to be flat out paying for the bits I break instead of modding it! Lol oh well life is good in a trol:)

Tap, crackle, pop

[Dozer]

just read through majority of the 172 pages lol. Wicked build up mate.

I had a TB42 patrol a while ago that i was thinking of doing this too but never got around to it, pitty i didnt... can imagine this thing would haul ass.

[Bigrig]

Hey Scott have you already got the turbo? if so post up the serial number and i can tell you model and size.

If you haven't already brought one, are you open to other turbos apart from Garrett? Only reason i ask is Precision turbos make some really really good pieces including anti surge compresser housing and Billet core!

What rear housing are you going to use? 1.06? or .82?

See if this makes sense to you - 1.06 rear, 0.5 inlet on the compressor side, with a 60mm Trim. Makes no sense to me!!! lmao. Apparently that'll not loose too much bottom end, but give me heaps more up top and let it rev out longer through the curve so it doesn't plateau around 3000 rpm ..

All that married up to a straight through 3" system (already got a 3" dump pipe, but didn't change the 2.75" exhaust at the time).

[taslucas]

Hey Scotty, your TC problem is that it won't lockup right? And you have a manual lockup over ride switch and that works. I would have thought that the lockup solenoid would have to work for the manual lockup switch to work? Is that right? I'm just having a guess....

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[Bigrig]

Hey Scotty, your TC problem is that it won't lockup right? And you have a manual lockup over ride switch and that works. I would have thought that the lockup solenoid would have to work for the manual lockup switch to work? Is that right? I'm just having a guess....

Tap, crackle, pop

Yep and yep and yep old mate ..

I'm just giving it an overhaul regardless - giving the gearbox the 'kiss of life' whilst it's out as well ...

[taslucas]

Ahhh mo worries. So you still have no idea what us causing the TC lockup problem?

Tap, crackle, pop

[Bigrig]

Ahhh mo worries. So you still have no idea what us causing the TC lockup problem?

Tap, crackle, pop

Not a clue old mate - hopefully will find it whilst out though ...

[taslucas]

Not a clue old mate - hopefully will find it whilst out though ...

Those boxes are sent to test us!! You got an error code?

[Bigrig]

Those boxes are sent to test us!! You got an error code?

Wouldn't know if they are even recorded now mate - replaced the ECU ... worth a look I suppose though ... I mean, what harm could I possibly do to the new ECU map??? lmao

[GQUTERUS]

See if this makes sense to you - 1.06 rear, 0.5 inlet on the compressor side, with a 60mm Trim. Makes no sense to me!!! lmao. Apparently that'll not loose too much bottom end, but give me heaps more up top and let it rev out longer through the curve so it doesn't plateau around 3000 rpm ..

All that married up to a straight through 3" system (already got a 3" dump pipe, but didn't change the 2.75" exhaust at the time).
Sure does!

1.06 A/r rear, that's referring to the rear exhaust housing size. The bigger the number the bigger the housing and the bigger the housing the bigger engine you'll need to produce enough exhaust gas to run the turbo efficiently.

0.5 inlet, that's the size of the compresser housing. Not a big important factor..

60mm trim, that's the size of the compresser wheel. Bigger wheel the more volume of air it can move.


Your issue with the massive flat spot at 3000rpm is that little turbo running out of puff. The exhaust side of the turbo isn't big enough to produce enough air volume to hold the set boost pressure. The 1.06 rear will sort that out!!

[Bigrig]

Sure does!

1.06 A/r rear, that's referring to the rear exhaust housing size. The bigger the number the bigger the housing and the bigger the housing the bigger engine you'll need to produce enough exhaust gas to run the turbo efficiently.

0.5 inlet, that's the size of the compresser housing. Not a big important factor..

60mm trim, that's the size of the compresser wheel. Bigger wheel the more volume of air it can move.


Your issue with the massive flat spot at 3000rpm is that little turbo running out of puff. The exhaust side of the turbo isn't big enough to produce enough air volume to hold the set boost pressure. The 1.06 rear will sort that out!!

Thanks a million champion!!! I owe you a beer coz I somewhat have a better understanding now!!! Only somewhat though!!! lmao

[nissannewby]

Its all about flow and efficiency :) that size should do a nice job.

[Bigrig]

Its all about flow and efficiency :) that size should do a nice job.

Thanks mate - I hope so ...

[nissannewby]

You could run like the superior truck did 350hp at the treads with a 100hp shot of nitrous which was actuated by your foot getting to the the throttle stop on the floor :):)

[Bigrig]

You could run like the superior truck did 350hp at the treads with a 100hp shot of nitrous which was actuated by your foot getting to the the throttle stop on the floor :):)

Ummm ... no thanks ... lmao

The bigger turbo, more efficient setup should see me drag another 50 or so rear wheel gee gee's out of it apparently, and that will see me over 240hp at the rear wheels ... enough for now!! lmao

[nissannewby]

That would only be running mild boost to wouldnt it say around 8psi?

[Bigrig]

That would only be running mild boost to wouldnt it say around 8psi?

Spot on boss .. 8lb actuator on it, so it spikes up a bit higher when blotted, but holds a steady 8/9 on the gauge (not that it's accurate probably either). The dyno measured it at 7.5-8

[GQUTERUS]

Thanks a million champion!!! I owe you a beer coz I somewhat have a better understanding now!!! Only somewhat though!!! lmao

No worries mate, when you have a free 15min give this a light read. They explain these things better then i ever can :)

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/terminology

[NissanGQ4.2]

Hi mate, you got the vents in yet? Any pics?

And what post was those seats I wanna know how much they cost?

[Bigrig]

Hi mate, you got the vents in yet? Any pics?

And what post was those seats I wanna know how much they cost?

Not in yet mate - just gotta find the time!! I checked out those seats, but reckon I'll have to call Nissan as I could find nothing online. They are supremely nice looking ...

The ordinal post was a new members rig - a current model/brand spanker and it's lurverly!!!!

[NissanGQ4.2]

Not in yet mate - just gotta find the time!! I checked out those seats, but reckon I'll have to call Nissan as I could find nothing online. They are supremely nice looking ...

The ordinal post was a new members rig - a current model/brand spanker and it's lurverly!!!!

So they are out of a GU I guess, unless Nissan became smart and released a new GQ :) so they might not fit anyway???

[Bigrig]

So they are out of a GU I guess, unless Nissan became smart and released a new GQ :) so they might not fit anyway???

Correct boss ... reckon they'd have to go as close to fitting as a lot of others - would expect some stuffing around, but geez, how good would they look!!!

[NissanGQ4.2]

Correct boss ... reckon they'd have to go as close to fitting as a lot of others - would expect some stuffing around, but geez, how good would they look!!!

Would look good, if you find out any info can you pm me the details please if you remember, I really need new seats

[Bigrig]

Would look good, if you find out any info can you pm me the details please if you remember, I really need new seats

You 'need' new ones?? Mine aren't overly bad, just my large frame makes me seek more comfort. If I can sort out a set of new ones for mine (price dependant), you can have my current ones (leather) for a carton a side.

[NissanGQ4.2]

You 'need' new ones?? Mine aren't overly bad, just my large frame makes me seek more comfort. If I can sort out a set of new ones for mine (price dependant), you can have my current ones (leather) for a carton a side.

Would like to get new ones as well something a bit more comfy, but yeh don't see having the $$$ for a while so will take you up on your deal if you ever do yours

[Bigrig]

Would like to get new ones as well something a bit more comfy, but yeh don't see having the $$$ for a while so will take you up on your deal if you ever do yours

Done. Did I mention it was a couple of cartons of Johnny Walker Blue Label (and full of course)?? lmao

[nissannewby]

I thought you would have settled for a slab of xxxx gold :p

[NissanGQ4.2]

Done. Did I mention it was a couple of cartons of Johnny Walker Blue Label (and full of course)?? lmao

What do you mean full *LMAO*

[nissannewby]

He never actually specified what they should be full of. :)

[Bigrig]

I thought you would have settled for a slab of xxxx gold :p

Hey, hey ... watch yourself young fella ... TWO slabs of xxxx Gold!!!! I'm not cheap!!!! lmao

[Dark 1]

Ironing out bugs mate ... but I'm trying!!!

Iron faster buddy iron faster.

[Bigrig]

Iron faster buddy iron faster.

I'm on it boss!!! Promise!!! lol

[Dark 1]

Be great to catch up again before our big adventure.

[Bigrig]

Be great to catch up again before our big adventure.

Too right ... I might have to catch you on the mainland as I'm supposed to be doing this comp next week, away for four days the weekend after you're here, and travelling all the shop in between ...

But, I'm no quitter!!

[Dark 1]

Too right ... I might have to catch you on the mainland as I'm supposed to be doing this comp next week, away for four days the weekend after you're here, and travelling all the shop in between ...

But, I'm no quitter!!

Busy boy hey, we'll see what we can work out. Where most likely going to be over the eastern side of aus again around october 2013 as i'm taking the misses on a cruise for her 40th & it leaves from sydney so we'll probably stay over this side of aus for a year or two after that.

[Bigrig]

Busy boy hey, we'll see what we can work out. Where most likely going to be over the eastern side of aus again around october 2013 as i'm taking the misses on a cruise for her 40th & it leaves from sydney so we'll probably stay over this side of aus for a year or two after that.

We'll catch up mate ... somehow, by hook or by crook!!

[Bigrig]

Holy dooley - had to scroll through nearly 200 threads for other builds to find mine!! Don't think it's ever been that far down the list!! lmao ...

For those interested, Tank features in the Auguest issue of 4WD Monthly Customs Magazine (comes with issue 184 in August). A bit excited to see how the happy snaps turned out ... especially since my rough head may be in a few!! lol

[taslucas]

Sweet as mate! Can you get me a copy, cut your head out of each pic and then send it to me? Ill pay ya for the mag, the postage and your time........


LMAO hahahahahahahahahhaahhaa

Nah seriously, cant wait to check the rig out Scotty

[Bigrig]

Sweet as mate! Can you get me a copy, cut your head out of each pic and then send it to me? Ill pay ya for the mag, the postage and your time........


LMAO hahahahahahahahahhaahhaa

Nah seriously, cant wait to check the rig out Scotty

No worries ... $500 should do it ... a lot to pay, but who am I to argue with ya!!! lmao

[taslucas]

hahaha. Im sure a few other members would go in for the same deal, but then what would you do with all the cut-out heads!! lol

[growler2058]

Holy dooley - had to scroll through nearly 200 threads for other builds to find mine!! Don't think it's ever been that far down the list!! lmao ...

For those interested, Tank features in the Auguest issue of 4WD Monthly Customs Magazine (comes with issue 184 in August). A bit excited to see how the happy snaps turned out ... especially since my rough head may be in a few!! lol

Theres a reason to not buy that mag hahahahahahahhahahahahahaha

[Silver]

Well done Scotty, Tank and you are celebreties!!

[AB]

We have Photoshop mate...lol...Nah well done, I'll get a copy indeed!

Can't believe your post is about to crack 100,000 views...Most entire websites dont get to see that figure let alone a single post.

[Hoggy]

I tell people not to confuse being 'ugly' with 'having character' ;) I miss my GQ.

[taslucas]

We have Photoshop mate...lol...Nah well done, I'll get a copy indeed!

Can't believe your post is about to crack 100,000 views...Most entire websites dont get to see that figure let alone a single post.

AB is seeing dollar signs!

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[Finly Owner]

Hey Scott can't wait to see it.

I am relly waiting to see and Tank on one oftheir vids showing up ol' Rotthy and "Shorty", not to mention that other thing.



hahahahahah



Tim

[Bigrig]

Hey Scott can't wait to see it.

I am relly waiting to see and Tank on one oftheir vids showing up ol' Rotthy and "Shorty", not to mention that other thing.



hahahahahah



Tim

Thanks mate - that's on my wish list too!! lmao

I've actually seen the article on a Pre-release, but can't post anything obviously until it comes out - pretty happy with the article (5 pages), and they sent me a bunch of the high res photos taken on the day also, so some bottler snaps for my laptop wallpaper!! lol

[Bigrig]

Some of the high res happy snaps, turned into low res crappy snaps to be able to load here!! lol

These are not the ones from the article ...

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[growler2058]

Very very sooopa cool Scotty well done Tank looks tough as
One thing.........those sunnies you're wearing. Do they make em for blokes hahahhahahahahahaha


Tapp tillya Crap

[NissanGQ4.2]

Excellent pics of TANK, not so sure on the ugly mug driving though, you would think they would of put a hot blonde model in the drivers seat for the photo shoot a least *LMAO*

Can I add these pics 2 the nissanpatrol.com.au screen saver *LMAO*

[Bigrig]

Very very sooopa cool Scotty well done Tank looks tough as
One thing.........those sunnies you're wearing. Do they make em for blokes hahahhahahahahahaha


Tapp tillya Crap

Hahaha ... borrowed em from the missus!!!

You southern lot wouldn't have those glasses available ... they're for real 4wd'ers !!!! lmfao

[growler2058]

Hahaha ... borrowed em from the missus!!!

You southern lot wouldn't have those glasses available ... they're for real 4wd'ers !!!! lmfao

Ouch!!....

[Bigrig]

Excellent pics of TANK, not so sure on the ugly mug driving though, you would think they would of put a hot blonde model in the drivers seat for the photo shoot a least *LMAO*

Can I add these pics 2 the nissanpatrol.com.au screen saver *LMAO*

Lmao!! My blonde hair isn't visible due to the door and my shorts covering it!!!!! LMFAO!!!!!!!

Go to town on adding them to the screensaver ... like that'll ever happen!! lol

Oh, and it's 7 pages, not 5 ... forgot the full two page photo that starts the article!!! Article is called "Path to Perfection" ... thought they were doing a write up on the truck and not me!!!! lmfao

[Silver]

I fair dinkum did not recognise you in the small images Scotty - I think I was put off by that carefully coiffed facial hair......

Nice Work!

[Silver]

Lmao!! My blonde hair isn't visible due to the door and my shorts covering it!!!!! LMFAO!!!!!!!

Go to town on adding them to the screensaver ... like that'll ever happen!! lol

Oh, and it's 7 pages, not 5 ... forgot the full two page photo that starts the article!!! Article is called "Path to Perfection" ... thought they were doing a write up on the truck and not me!!!! lmfao

'the journey of 1000 miles starts with the first step.'

[Robo]

Nice-one Scotty,
Ignore them mate, they are just jealous.
Bask in the sun bro.

cheers x2