GQ HID headlight upgrade pics please

[Drewboyaus]

Hi folks,
Looking for some pics/ideas on where to mount the ballasts and relay set-ups for the HID upgrade I'm about to start on my GQ.
Many thanks,
Drew.

[Bloodyaussie]

Mine are mounted on the inside of the uprights of my ARB bullbar.. dont have a pic right now but if still hard up I will take one tomorrow

[Drewboyaus]

Cheers,
I was hoping to have it all mounted in the engine bay somewhere though....
Why did you choose the bull bar?

[Bloodyaussie]

It was how I bought my car.. I just changed the lights to my Narva's and used the existing ballast that were already there.

You dont notice them unless you really have a sticky beak and I think they get some nice cool air?? not sure if that matters???

[nissannewby]

Are we talking head lights or spot lights? I have some of micks projector kits in my GQ I will grab some pics tomorrow of mounting and light output. Going the projector way has a far better outcome than just bulbs and ballasts which is what I had prior to the projectors.

[Bloodyaussie]

Oh yeah I did not notice... mine are for my spotties... sorry!!

Thanks nissannewby

[threedogs]

My headlight are just inside engine bay near washer bttle on one side and fuse box on other, out of the way , dont get wet as smeared some silicon along seam. ,. spotlights are mounted internally but I change all the time.

[Drewboyaus]

Are we talking head lights or spot lights? I have some of micks projector kits in my GQ I will grab some pics tomorrow of mounting and light output. Going the projector way has a far better outcome than just bulbs and ballasts which is what I had prior to the projectors.
That would be great, thanks. Did you have to move much in the engine bay to fit the relay (& harness) and the ballasts?
Cheers,
Drew.

[nissannewby]

Everything fitted in there easily mate. I will get the pics up the drivers side is a little tight but it all fits.

[nissannewby]

Here you go Drew. This is one of what the projectors look like.
http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh493/nissannewby/IMG_1275.jpg

This is the mounting on the passenger side. There is plenty of room on this side so you have a fair amount of options.
http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh493/nissannewby/IMG_1277.jpg

This is the drivers side. A little bit tighter but if you remove the washer bottle prior to mounting it makes it a lot easier. The only thing I had to do was extend the main power wire for the relay.
http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh493/nissannewby/IMG_1278.jpg
http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh493/nissannewby/IMG_1279.jpg

After running just bulbs and ballasts prior to these projectors if I had my time again I would go straight to the projectors, the difference really is chalk and cheese. Get onto Mick. on here he will help sort you out. Cheers Newby

[Drewboyaus]

Great pics thanks.
Just been out and peered into the engine bay and I reckon the loom for the passenger side will be too short to reach the quarter panel but that might depend on where I locate the relay.
As I type, I'm thinking if I mount the relay on the front qtr panel drivers side near the light (near washer bottle) i only have to extend the power feed and earth from the battery to the relay rather than re-wiring the plugs to the globe and ballast on the passenger side.
On the projector headlamps, are they less likely to blind oncoming drivers given their design is what is normally used with HIDs rather than the reflector type?

[nissannewby]

Yes mate they are far superior in the regard. I will post up some pics very very shortly.

[nissannewby]

First one low beam with bulbs and ballasts. You can how the light is everywhere hence why they are bad for oncoming traffic.
http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh493/nissannewby/IMG_1234_zps2058e1c6.jpg

This is low beam on the projectors.
http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh493/nissannewby/IMG_1296.jpg

Hi Beam with bulbs and ballasts.
http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh493/nissannewby/IMG_1235_zps00091991.jpg

Hi Beam with the projectors
http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh493/nissannewby/IMG_1298.jpg

[Lawrence]

First one low beam with bulbs and ballasts. You can how the light is everywhere hence why they are bad for oncoming traffic.
http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh493/nissannewby/IMG_1234_zps2058e1c6.jpg

This is low beam on the projectors.
http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh493/nissannewby/IMG_1296.jpg

Hi Beam with bulbs and ballasts.
http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh493/nissannewby/IMG_1235_zps00091991.jpg

Hi Beam with the projectors
http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh493/nissannewby/IMG_1298.jpg

Did you make these or where did you buy them?

[mick.]

Thats one of my kits Lawrence. I do all the hard work and convert the Britrax lights to projector HID and they come with a plug and play wiring loom. So all you do is remove your old lights and these replace them.

There is a heap of info in the thread below and my ebay store.

http://stores.ebay.com.au/Projectors-retrofits

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?12691-HID-Projector-headlamp-kits-to-suit-GQ-and-GUs

Cheers Mick.

[mick.]

Great pics thanks.
Just been out and peered into the engine bay and I reckon the loom for the passenger side will be too short to reach the quarter panel but that might depend on where I locate the relay.
As I type, I'm thinking if I mount the relay on the front qtr panel drivers side near the light (near washer bottle) i only have to extend the power feed and earth from the battery to the relay rather than re-wiring the plugs to the globe and ballast on the passenger side.
On the projector headlamps, are they less likely to blind oncoming drivers given their design is what is normally used with HIDs rather than the reflector type?The main diference is all in the projector. The projector takes a D2S bulb which are designed for hid lighting unlike the H4 hid bulbs. A D2S bulb only has one eliment for high and low beam. High and low beam is controlled by a solinoid activated eyelid (cut off) which stops the light from blinding oncoming cars and cars you pull up behind at the lights. When you hit highbeam the solinoid pulls the cut off down exposing the whole light.

This is what the projector looks like. Matts is the bigger one on the left.
http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l510/mickkk78/Picture%20for%20my%20web%20site/Stanley3inch-27.jpg

Cheers Mick.

[Drewboyaus]

I'm interested now in the idea of the projector style headlights, only problem I see is I have an H4 kit to so the job which, by the sound of it Mick, won't work with the projector style headlamp insert. Is that correct?
Wish I'd done my usual amount of homework on these type of things first instead of jumping in boots and all this time...grrrrrr (slap forehead)
Cheers,
Drew.

[Drewboyaus]

Damn I hate autocorrect! That would be "to do the job"....

[threedogs]

Newby what size projectors are they 60 watt??

[nissannewby]

3" projectors with 50w ballasts

[mick.]

I'm interested now in the idea of the projector style headlights, only problem I see is I have an H4 kit to so the job which, by the sound of it Mick, won't work with the projector style headlamp insert. Is that correct?
Wish I'd done my usual amount of homework on these type of things first instead of jumping in boots and all this time...grrrrrr (slap forehead)
Cheers,
Drew.Thats right mate. It's a totally different design and wiring loom.

Cheers Mick.

[Drewboyaus]

Bummer!!!!!!

[Drewboyaus]

Short of starting again with a different kit, is there any way of rectifying the situation?

[mick.]

No mate there's not. The whole H4 HID kit has to go to fix the problem. HID was never designed for reflectors so there's no way of fixing it without replacing everything.

Cheers Mick.

[Drewboyaus]

Harrumph!
Oh we'll, I might concentrate on doing the IPFs first then.
Because the truck is my toy, so to speak, I might play around with mounting the H4s anyway for the time being as really the only time the lights get a workout is on the tracks....
I reckon I'll be putting one of your projector kits on my upgrade list now! Lol.
Cheers for the help too.
Cheers,
Drew

[mick.]

No dramas mate. The IPFs are a great light when converted to HID too.

Cheers Mick.

[Drewboyaus]

What makes them even better is that they were a $130 eBay steal!

[Drewboyaus]

Mick,
Thinking some more about this, I assume I can replace the reflector with one of your projector inserts and change the globe output to the ballasts?
Is that do-able?
Cheers,
Andrew

[mick.]

No mate.

It's all totally different to what you have. Your old lights and HIDs are no good for any of this kit. I put 6 hours of labour into making these fit and aligning the projectors. That is with jigs and laser levels and countless hours of practise. I cant do it any other mate.

Cheers Mick.

[Drewboyaus]

No probs, I get that the headlights and HID globes are no good to use but was wondering if everything up to the ballast was ok to use. I've hidden all the wiring and stuff away really nicely (took ages) and it would be a right pain to have to pull it all out and start again.
I was assuming I could replace the headlights and HID lamps and plug them into my existing ballasts.....
Even if the connectors you have used are different, I could either change the connectors on mine to suit or solder the joins.....
Cheers,
Drew.

[mick.]

The wiring looms are different but you could use your ballasts but the need D2S adaptors fitted to them.

Cheers Mick.

[Drewboyaus]

Thanks.
What is the D2S adaptor? I assume it has something t do with the high beam solenoid?
Cheers,
Drew

[mick.]

Thanks.
What is the D2S adaptor? I assume it has something t do with the high beam solenoid?
Cheers,
DrewNo mate it goes from the ballasts to the D2S bulbs. It's whats in the link below.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=221145786132&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

Cheers Mick.

[Drewboyaus]

Ahh..... no worries. So with this, a D2S lamp and the projector headlight, I should be good to go.....

[mick.]

Yes need the wiring loom as well as your old one wont work for projector HID. The only thing from your old kit you can use are the ballasts.

Cheers Mick.

[Drewboyaus]

What's the difference between the two looms?
Cheers,
Drew

[mick.]

I'm not going to go into details but projector lighting is totally different. There's more plugs and wired up different to H4.