Turbo timer on a NA 4.2

[BigRAWesty]

Why you ask..
Well I see it as a little more protection for the engine. Even on short trips the motor will run and warm up properly, even if your not there..
I'd rather use an extra liter a week and have my motor make 1 million K's..

So can it be done., my understanding of it all is its just all electronics.. A weekend wiring job.


Kallen Westbrook
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[MudRunnerTD]

I can't see any reason why you could not fit a Boggard turbo timer. They are a plug and play basically and plug into the ignition loom at the ignition behind the key. Straight piggy back style.

I am not sure about the level of benefit you would get though? The turbo timer is installed to allow the Turbo to cool, not the engine. Obviously the turbo is on the Hot side of the engine and at the extreme end and allowing it to cool to below 200 degrees slowly is beneficial. Your engine temp will not even be 100!

[BigRAWesty]

I'm wanting the other, I want the engine to warm up half properly even on short trips. So everything gets well lubricated even when nipping around town..


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[BigRAWesty]

Something like this

Universal Apexi Auto Timer For NA & Turbo Black Pen Control w/ BLUE Digital LED

http://bit.ly/RvUYI4


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[Robo]

Warming any vehicle engine is best done while driving.
Of course Driving in a manner that doesn't overload it.
Idling any vechile engine is no good for em.
Diesel x2 Especially they are made to be driven not sitting idling away.

Rule of thumb, I say rule of thumb as I'm sure this will get alot of hits, but has served me well.
And My brother inlaw's advise who's both petrol and diesel mech, truck not toy.
Blow-by and glazing the bore up is almost a certainty allowing a diesel to idle to much to often.
Labouring a diesel isn't going to save fuel or do it any favours either, again designed to be driven.

I read some where that it takes atleast 15 min standard driving to truly warm a engine evenly.
That is before you give it a hard time.

Turbo timer cool down is a different thing altogether.
Turbos run that hot that if it's not cooled enough any oil left in it will be cooked and turn to coke.
"A solid not liquid any more".
blocking the turbos oil paths up and rest is self explanatory
3-5 minuets is a typical standard cool down time.
now that should get some new posts!.
cheers

[snewin]

My 2c - i reckon my engine is fully lubricated, warmed up and ready for action when the needle hits halfway between C and H. Usually takes about 2kms of driving miss daisy from our property and down the road.

[Robo]

Just because a gauge says its warmed doesn't mean completly.
The sender is usually placed in a hot spot.
bits in engine like the rods for instance will take longer to warm up.
Thats what's I meant by completely.
Not trying to be a smarty, just a better understanding for all.
including myself if someone has better ideas.
cheers

[P4trol]

I have driven a Ford F-350 about 15kms before the water temp needle started to move.


So is the general consensus to use time to guage shut down, or egt temps?



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[happygu]

Westy,

My view is to not use a Turbo Timer.

You can't leave the vehicle in gear when you shut it down, so the car is relying on the handbrake to keep it from rolling away. I think the risks outweigh any benefit that you may get out of fitting one.

Just idle it down gently, or start coasting a little as you get close to your destination.

I normally just sit in the car for 30 seconds to a minute and let it cool down, if required.

I had a Turbo Timer once, and I ended up taking it out.



Mic

[threedogs]

Not a fan of timers think they are a waste of money, reason, unless you have just driven it for 20 laps around Bathurst flat stick whats the point.
Its a 4x4 fgs. Its Not a Hoon turbo running 30 psi,.
Pull up at your destination by the time you fiddle with seat beats etc your EGTs will be low , just turn it off,
Plus something else for the thieves to drive your 4x4 around the corner onto trailer never to be seen again.
Will never fit one unless I'm on the first row of the grid next Bathurst 1000. IMO

[89gqpatrol4x4]

Just a side note to threedogs. My skyline which has a Hoon turbo! LOL when the turbo timer is activated if you put the vehicle into gear it shuts down. Maybe this is only a feature on some models? not sure.

[threedogs]

I get you but unless you get it glowing red you wont need a timer, IMO

[BigRAWesty]

Guys, read it properly please. I'm not intending on using the timer as a warm down feature. But more as a warm up after short trips.
Sometimes the engine is only running for a couple of minutes, so the timer would be there to allow the engine to run for a few more mins and warm up more..
As for only relying in the hand break? The patrols have the best hand brakes in the world.. I often park in neutral with engine running. On steep tracks, while investigating ahead. So no issue around town..


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[threedogs]

Kallen heavy meds here , Something different why not just let it idle while you look at track ??

[BigRAWesty]

Kallen heavy meds here , Something different why not just let it idle while you look at track ??

Yea I do, that was just a example of how much I trust the hand brake.


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[Robo]

Just giving all information in relation to running an engine at idle,
Any which way pros and cons.
Anyone that reads is then also better informed or can add their 2cw.
I understand what your trying to do,up to temp.
My timer doesn't run the engine on if its to cold as its not needed.
Idling and engine just causes unwanted wear and tear.
think about the only benifit is a dry exhaust system.
cheers

[BigRAWesty]

Yea fair enough. And you have some good points..
To the point that it's not going on..


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[P4trol]

Kallen,

You just need a (dirt) detour on the way to work... Went for a quick detour the other day and got 'bushed' dry creek bed disappeared and I had to make my own way. Two hours late home... Engine was warmed up.



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