head scratcher brain teaser

[dads tractor]

How would you measure the force in kpa at the end of the sway bars . project from left field

WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO is rate for a quick disconnect sway bar system using hydraulic rams easy ahhhhhhhhhhhh ;I,m dead cold sober just thinking outside the sqare.

[my third 256]

try this
http://www.ehow.com/how_6296050_calculate-torque-shaft.html

[threedogs]

Nissannnewby maybe your man here you lost me at "how would you" Bathurst weekend and all need to clear the grey matter.
Are you just using quick release pins ?? start drinking I say, the answer may be closer than you think.

[dads tractor]

three dogs thanks for that Pssssst just circumsised a cold now. :-P

[threedogs]

Thats what I'm talking about, Friday arvo Psssht. now how many ideas been hatched or solved after a cold one

[dads tractor]

The advantages of going hydraulic are no crawling around in mud to reconnect just release the pressure and hey no sway bar action then pump pressure up to suit hwy plus the added benefit of variable pressure to suit differant conditions. cheers for froathy fri gang.

[NissanGQ4.2]

Why connect them back up for in the first place, nothing like a bit of swayin on the road *L*

Besides its been illegal not 2 have them connected I find no real difference not having them connected from when I did, but its been that long without maybe I'm just use 2 it now :)

[Winnie]

I've got the disconnects in my Ti and there is a pretty big difference lol. Flexes a lot better in the bush without them, rides smoother too. On road yep drives like a boat with them out, nice and firm with them in.

[nissannewby]

Hey mate you dont really need to know the force if your basically gonna make it adjustable as you have stated you could use a pneumatic shock that way you could adjust the pressure as you please to suit your desired needs. Its a good idea too.

[NissanGQ4.2]

On road yep drives like a boat with them out

does not, it drives like a race car should :)

[dads tractor]

nissanewby isnt the reality that you are replacing a 10mm steel bar which can take x amount of torque with a (air wont cut it) fliud to replace the steel ? i'm not having a go just trying to rethink a cheap oem idea.

[nissannewby]

Yeah mate all good. Its probably easier to know how much pressure the 10mm steel bar can take in its setup. Like how much compression and extension pressure that material can take then go from there. Im unsure of anything that you could use to try and get the pressure that is applied to the sway bars in their setup. Your also gonna have to be able to control it both ways you need to stop it from compressing one side and stop it from extending on the other. Although some smart plumbing of the hydraulics could work here.

This is a very interesting concept mate. Im sorry I cant be of more help.

[threedogs]

I take it then the hydraulic would be more reliable than some electric set up?
Just throwing it out there for the FFG, I like that name, might be a keeper

[dads tractor]

thinking thinking the answer will become clear some time soon. anyone else got input?

[NissanGQ4.2]

thinking thinking the answer will become clear some time soon. anyone else got input?

Time for a beer :)

Did that help??? :)

[megatexture]

Yeah mate all good. Its probably easier to know how much pressure the 10mm steel bar can take in its setup. Like how much compression and extension pressure that material can take then go from there. Im unsure of anything that you could use to try and get the pressure that is applied to the sway bars in their setup. Your also gonna have to be able to control it both ways you need to stop it from compressing one side and stop it from extending on the other. Although some smart plumbing of the hydraulics could work here.

This is a very interesting concept mate. Im sorry I cant be of more help.

i dont have disconects on my car but dont most ppl just release one side only, therefore just needing to hold it up on one side? and the other side could remain fixed

[threedogs]

At what point does this drinking, thinking become slurring and dribble
the thinking part is slowing down. IMO lol

[dads tractor]

three dogs two much drinking no thinking as the wise man said "when the booze goes in the brain goes out" but we all need froathy fridays ,saturated saturdays , and sober up sundays the rest of the week is for the missus .

[Robo]

Here's a test then, see how this fly's.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yield_(engineering)
lmao

[my third 256]

I've got the disconnects in my Ti and there is a pretty big difference lol. Flexes a lot better in the bush without them, rides smoother too. On road yep drives like a boat with them out, nice and firm with them in.
why couldnt u use it out of a gq ti then everything fits

[dads tractor]

blooming heck robo your just done my head in maths wasnt my strong suit at school and that was 35 years ago

[Robo]

blooming heck robo your just done my head in maths wasnt my strong suit at school and that was 35 years ago

Just kiddin.
holly cow just realised 34 yrs, where does the time go

Wasn't what I wanted for ya, worth a laugh.
Search and you'll find a list out there of tensile strength etc.
Wikipedia is a great place to start for a lot of stuff.
Problem is, need to know what grade of metal is used for this type of link.

Here's a link to something relevant.
And the various lift sizes products are available.
Hard work done for ya, buy and fit, to easy.

Superior engineering, Queensland Burpengary, 4x4 store.
http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=31_32_33_178&products_id=4059

[threedogs]

Maths whats that shisen, it was called arithmetic when I was a wee lad the 3 Rs
reading
riting
rithmatics
Obviously not grammar lol

[taslucas]

The advantages of going hydraulic are no crawling around in mud to reconnect just release the pressure and hey no sway bar action then pump pressure up to suit hwy plus the added benefit of variable pressure to suit differant conditions. cheers for froathy fri gang.


why couldnt u use it out of a gq ti then everything fits

and thats got to be the obvious solution staring us in the face! well done my third.

EDIT: just to be clear, the sway bar disconnect that comes out in some of the GQs is operated by a handle from inside the car

[dads tractor]

threedogs you been kissing that stubbie again mate aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh hhhh

[dads tractor]

robo had a chat to pete I think at superior and the big complant is with a pin and collar system is when Mum gets in the vehicle the 1 to 2 mm slop upsets them as they think somethings wrong .you know the story unhappy wife/partner shiteful life might as well take the swag to the shed for life lol c'mon dogs lets go hi ho off the the big house we go no farting no love licks after sunset OK

[Robo]

I like the idea of gen Gq Ti fittings being fitted also.
The question was around doing something hydraulic and what metals to use.
Simply pointing to what's out there now to assist ideas you have.
Did you notice the metal they used, grade 4140 from memory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAE_steel_grades
Cheers

[sil3nt_dr3ams]

air ram actuator, no need for hydraulic.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Air-Cylinder-Actuator-Ram-ISO-15552-100mm-Bore-100mm-Stroke-/161000221027?pt=UK_Air_Tools_and_Compressors&hash=item257c5c6963

My air tank is in front of the rear diff too,