cheap locker? or crap idea?

[KL570]

hey guys,

so i remember someone throwing an idea around/they knew someone who had done it...

the idea is, in the front diff, put a full spool in (thus locking the diff) and use the freewheel of the manual locking hubs to engage/disengage a fully locked diff in 4x4?

please be gentle, im a complete rookie and have no idea of the inherrent advantages or disadvanteges of this idea hahaha.

Kade

[Ben-e-boy]

best off with an auto locker so you keep most of your turning circle. it is was full locked you would need to get out and unlock a hub just to turn a corner. I have seen and driven rigs with CIG lockers its a pain in the arse

[patch697]

best off with an auto locker so you keep most of your turning circle. it is was full locked you would need to get out and unlock a hub just to turn a corner. I have seen and driven rigs with CIG lockers its a pain in the arse


!00% agree......

The cheaper option isn't always better mate,

[KL570]

mmm true. i was reading up on them. seems that a few guys have done it. makes a good diff lock, just have to get out of the car ALOT to make it workable....

[patch697]

mmm true. i was reading up on them. seems that a few guys have done it. makes a good diff lock, just have to get out of the car ALOT to make it workable....

If you want a diff lock you don't have to leave the the drivers seat for then go a air locker or an E locker & have the best of both woulds. Yes it is the more expensive path to take but you get what you pay for.

[threedogs]

X 2 with Patch, there's a bit of a knack driving a 4x4 with auto locker especially one in the front
even more so if its CIG. better off saving and buying a Pro Locker or similar, then its either on or off'
best of all you can go around corners. You'll then have a compressor for air up duties, could even fit a small
tank to inside of chassis rail to run air tools etc

[KL570]

yeah sounds about right to me... mmm looks like ill know what ill be asking for for christmas ;)

[davejones]

Put a Detroit Soft Locker in the front of my GU. No real vices but you know it's there. Understeer but only minor and only if you sink the boot into the loud pedal into a corner in 4wd which you really shouldn't be doing anyway.

They're pretty reasonably priced even with USPS Airmail from Just Differentials in the USA.

I wouldn't bother going the extra cost for air or e locker.

I do a lot of touring and I couldn't be happier.

Dave

[Steve200b]

Lock right Lokka, cheap and reliable?

[growler2058]

Lokka, cheap and reliable?

Most definately



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[makeitfit]

How much is a Lokka out there in Aus land ? Bit of a pain to get over here :/

[Winnie]

Think they're around $500-600?

[Bigrig]

Hmmm ... this old chestnut!! lol

After seeing Benny's auto locker in action, I have a definite appreciation for them, but still a believer in being able to turn them off ... just ask Nick what happened to me on a "chicken track" last week at Beerburrum ... off camber to the left on a steep upward climb where you had to turn right .. locker launched me to the left following the camber as a bit of right foot was needed, and I nearly came to grief ... his was unlocked and with a bit of guidance he doddled up the same section ...

This sort of example is rare as such, but I had witnesses to something first hand that I have been bleating on about regarding the need to turn off front lockers on up and down ward steep climbs with off camber cornering ...

Could have been driver error though ...

Nahhh ... It was me!!! Impossible!!!! LMFAO!

Yep, driver error in that I left the locker on, and depended on it to carry me around the corner instead of taking the right line ... but it happens!!

[growler2058]

If yer not giving it the berries you can control the Lokka
I have dented my troll on a piece of track that threw me around a bit and thought that maybe the Lokka was to blame........however a yota steering mate of mine got identical damage on exactly the same section in an unlocked snot box 5 minutes after me.
We all know Holden's rule and frauds suck a bit the same with auto lockers v's air/elec

From memory I paid $380 for mine


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[89gqpatrol4x4]

something else to think about is I always try and drive the track without the lokkers. Trying to pick a good line and improve my driving skills. LOL can't do that with an auto lokker.

[Bigrig]

something else to think about is I always try and drive the track without the lokkers. Trying to pick a good line and improve my driving skills. LOL can't do that with an auto lokker.

Top post!! Full marks to you mate!!

[Winnie]

The thing I don't like about lockers, is that people (not all people, just idiots) seem to think that if you have lockers you can get through anything. The lockers will certainly help but if you're a muppet behind the wheel they're gonna be as useless as a kickstand on a submarine.
This is my mate on his first 4x4 outing in his 60 cruiser. I was riding passenger with him, came across this nice hole. He wasn't sure if he'd get through or not, told him that I'd been through it and also my mate's Daihatsu had been through it no worries. His words after I said that was "oh well if you got through I will have no problems with the locker"
This is the result:

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/pb2017/Winnie/246425_10151150939603025_2114296043_n-1.jpg

[makeitfit]

Curse you internet information overload :/ Sorry for free loading on this thread but I've been thinking about getting a Lokka but now reading these last few posts I'm uncertain again :@ cheers 89gqpatrol4x4 :)
So what's the next level up? I guess air comp , but any trade names please. There's so little info in UK I'll probably have to import from Aus anyway.
Ta

[04OFF]

If you have a Auto Lokka and manual hubs, you can always disengage "one" hub to "almost" simulate a open centre front end.

[growler2058]

My lokka is the best $400 ive spent no doubt about it!!!!!!!!!

[nissannewby]

Unlocked all the way :):)

[megatexture]

winnie that photo realy has no merit as that bog hole has toyota written all over it , dont think it would matter who was driving its still a yota lol:p

[Steve200b]

I use one in my road car and dont have any issues im sure it would be just as good in the patrol