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P4trol
8th September 2012, 09:50 PM
Having trouble searching for people with similar problems, so am unsure if it is a common problem.

While driving offroad I have noticed a creak noise (more of a groan) when the Left Hand Front wheel drops down/uncompresses ie the wheel flexes downwards into a hole. I know it isn't necessarily the suspension making that noise, but that's the timing of it. It doesn't make the noise when the suspension is compressed. The general location of the noise is the LHF wheel. Other side is fine.

Vehicle: '98 2.8 GU
2" lift

How do I go about locating the noise? I've looked underneath for any cracked welds or shiny metal where rubbing could be happening.

patch697
8th September 2012, 10:07 PM
Maybe use a 2 poster hoist to slowly lift it while keeping an eye/ear out to try & locate the problem.

You could use a jack under the body but a 2 poster would give you a higher,flatter, more even lift, not to mention a safer one.

Silver
8th September 2012, 11:51 PM
I have the same problem but with right rear. Me, not Silver the mighty Mav.

What follows are just suggestions - not had that problem (yet?)

Body mounts ok? Look for spaces between the lowest washer and the mount above it?

Air leak in shock? Creaky poly bush moving in an eye where something is rotating.

Robo
9th September 2012, 12:07 AM
Lower spring perch can make a noise.
Metal to metal contact point.
Try a little lube on it, see if it disappears.

P4trol
11th September 2012, 11:16 PM
Lifted under the side steps with a trolley jack. Best I had at the time. It changes the view you see under the car.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2012/09/49.jpg

Ok, this is the closest body mount. If they all look like this, then they are okay?

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2012/09/50.jpg

The spring perch is where the bottom of the spring sits? Haven't seen any place where the metal is rubbing, so I'll keep that one up my sleeve.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2012/09/51.jpg

I did however notice a branch wedged in. Don't know the technical name for it. Anyway, with the vehicle jacked up, I hypothesized the metal would rub against those stick. The stick isn't new. It was green when it went in, driving an overgrown track. Maybe some sort of acacia. But over the last few months it has dried out. It also has split, making it suddenly easy to remove. Pic is upside down. Sorry.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2012/09/52.jpg


Test tomorrow and report back


Tipsy-tap

Silver
12th September 2012, 12:38 AM
Nice clear photos P4trol.

If there is a gap due to worn body mounts, with the body weight on the chassis, any gap will show up in the area currently obscured by the metal mount - there will be the underside of that mount, the gap, if any, then the rubber, washer and bolt.

The stick looks a likely candidate :-)

nissannewby
12th September 2012, 05:41 AM
You could possibly have a bolt seized in your radius arm bush (the dont know the technical name of object retaining your branch) so when it flexes its rotating the bolt instead of the bush rotating around the bolt.

Robo
12th September 2012, 05:47 AM
Yep, you took a good pic of spring perch.
you may not see rubbing as could be hidden by the spring.

04OFF
12th September 2012, 08:09 AM
If your other stuff didnt fix the problem, ive heard the sway bars/links can make a noise as you describe, especially when one wheel is hanging and the other side is compressed, as this works them pretty hard.

P4trol
12th September 2012, 02:27 PM
Cheers for all the ideas fellas!

I was unable to replicate the sound using the trolley jack. A short test drive this morning and it didn't make the sound.

(Tapatalk is awesome for getting photos up. Beats the whole shoot/upload from camera/ resize / upload to web)

Tipsy-tap

patroltb42
13th September 2012, 01:38 PM
sounds like a problem 2 of my gq's have. the lower shock mounts have seats the rubbers sit on, if they have become dislodged the shock pin rubs on the shock mount and makes for a very annoying drive. Removal of botom shock bolt will tell you if this is the problem. If so get on to it before the shock mount tares and spring falls out while 3 wheeling not a good look. this did happen.....