Shopping Centre accident - Worth a fight?

[AB]

Just thought I would ask opinions on this one...lol

My misses has been parking in the same spot at a major shopping centre for the last 10 years. Today, she reversed into her usual spot next to the centre and smashed her car up because they have now put up a trolley bay...LMAO

After I called her an idiot, etc and I just got home from work and she showed me the photos I am now thinking is this totally her fault?

The photo without the sign is the spot...She came in from the left hand side which is the shopping centre lift entrance. Coming from the left she pulled in opposite that spot and reversed in as usual.

Notice there is no sign to notify the driver of a trolley bay so she didnt see it when she pulled into the opposite side to reverse due to the wall of the building and then reversing is impossible to see because of no sign to see in the mirrors.

The other photo is all the other new trolley bays in the carparks with signs above so you can see when reversing that there is a bay there...

Worth fighting do you think???

Tail light and rear bumper are smashed....

Notice the grey scrap of a VT wagon on the fresh yellow paint...LMAO...Bloody woman drivers!!!

[the ferret]

I'd take Bluey and a big chain down there Andy, lol.
Cheers, the ferret.

[taslucas]

Im sorry, but im gonna have to side with the steel pole........ it could have been a kid!

[growler2058]

Shouldn't let kids or steel poles alone in carparks fight it!!!!

[NissanGQ4.2]

Could of been a kid but lucky wasn't, I would get them to foot the bill 4 the damage.

If they don't foot the bill, winch the bars out, looks like they would make up some really nice sliders :)

[growler2058]

And if it was a kid charge his parents for the damage!!!


Tap, Tap.......Who's there?

[97_gq_lwb]

lol no excuse come on it is painted yellow i would think it is more a case of being used to reversing into the same old spot everyday so she didn't feel the need to take any notice as it had become second nature.

[Winnie]

lol no excuse come on it is painted yellow i would think it is more a case of being used to reversing into the same old spot everyday so she didn't feel the need to take any notice as it had become second nature.

That's what it sounds like, but if you seriously can't see them in your rear views then yeah you've probably got a foot to stand on against them.

[Yendor]

I think you will find it's part of the shopping centres terms and condition, that they are not liable for any damage or loss that might occur while using their car park and by you parking there you agree to these terms.

If it was still under construction you might be able to claim it under the subcontractors public liability insurance.

Personally I think you will just have to wear it, you can always bring it up when the wife is giving you a hard time over something else.

If the centre is owned by Westfield they will more then likely bill you for the damage you did to their property.

[NissanGQ4.2]

Depends on if you can't see it in the rear vision mirror, If she didn't look then of course you have know hope in hell, but if you take the same car down there and go 2 reverse in and can't seem them then you have every right 2 lodge a complaint

[Clunk]

Just goes to show that being habitual and therefore being complacent can be a damaging thing....... Did she only rely on mirrors or did she have a good look around as well during reversing? Doubt if you have any grounds mate.....Sorry lmfao

[macca]

Im sorry, but im gonna have to side with the steel pole........ it could have been a kid!

I can not help thinking what the conversations would be if it was a kid or adult.

Gives me a horrible feeling.

Fortunately some pride and the car were the only things damaged.

The responsibility we have while driving is great and we have to adapt to the changes that are around us.

Sorry but the question was asked.

[AB]

We are indeed creatures of habit and very lucky it wasnt a child. We just had a chat about that exact subject.

But she was using both side mirrors and rear view mirror and did not see the rails. They are supposed to have the sign above the bars so you can see them in your mirrors so that was the whole argument she had with centre management...You cant see them in the mirror but I never reverse unless I see the area first with my own eyes so...

[Clunk]

Snip....


But she was using both side mirrors and rear view mirror and did not see the rails...You cant see them in the mirror but I never reverse unless I see the area first with my own eyes so...

Yeah my missus has tried that whole argument in the past too..... Doesn't wash with me, I keep telling her to look around first and not solely rely on mirrors.... Does she listen ? Does she heck........ Maybe I should stop paying the insurance, might listen then lol

[threedogs]

I always thought you had no rights reversing

[wildgu6]

Mmmmm a lot of interesting views there and most with merit too, no harm in trying to recoup costs and good luck Andy, but I think it's time to install that reversing camera, never know where another trolley bay might pop up, and a good thing it wasn't a kid, but that's how easy it can happen


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[megatexture]

yea i agree try your luck with them but don’t hold your breath. i wouldn’t expect they will do anything it really is the drivers responsibility to make sure it’s clear before reversing i always hate seeing poles that aren’t a decent level in car parks they are just asking for ppl to hit them

[Woof]

My advise is to take it on the chin and save it for later, when you want to go for a play in the Patrol mate.

[macca]

Been thinking about this a bit,
The centre management is going to say those signs are there for shoppers to see where the trolley bays are, they are at that hieght to see them over the top of parked cars.
At some time during the parking process the tubular frames would have been visible in one of the mirrors, in saying that it is not necessarily well lit.
Reversing is not how a lot of people would park, but you can so some reflective tape may have caught the reversing lights of your car showing the bars location.
With things like this it is the capacity of the centre to pay, but they also have the capacity to fight.
Macca

[DX grunt]

How much $ damage was done?

[97_gq_lwb]

When you do your driving test you fail for not checking your blind spots .
Maybe their is a reason for it lol.

[AB]

How much $ damage was done?

Smashed tail light and rear bumper pushed in which bellowed the side of the bumper out. Cracked all the paint off the bumper and some narley new yellow paint all on bumper.

[jman69]

So , you called your wife an idiot. Are your b@!!$ still in tact ??

[AB]

So , you called your wife an idiot. Are your b@!!$ still in tact ??

It was said over the phone mate at a safe distance...lol

[Rip'n'Shred]

I've always said shopping is dangerous, especially the carparks.

I try to keep myself and the misess out of them as much as possible. :)

[LittleJohn]

I smashed me rear bar on exactly same type trolley bay poles Ab earlier this year ..
I just went and boughgt a new bar, you'd win th battle, but who could be stuffed !....