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AB
2nd July 2012, 04:12 PM
Hoping someone might help me out here.

I have gone through a winter of hell down here. I have the Coonara heater in the house running 24/7. My daughter is constantly getting sick, sniffles and colds, crying at night because she can't sleep and breath properly, etc....I'm running on empty folks and need sleep...LMAO

I'm doing some tests now to confirm this but I'm leaning towards allergies from the fire, smoke and wood, dust, etc.

I can't afford to run the split system all winter so I'm looking at other options to heat my blizzardly cold house!!!

Does anyone have hydronic heating? how effective is it, how many panels inside do you have?

Also, does anyone have any other ideas to warm a house efficiently? I have an endless supply of wood so I'm leaning towards wood heating.

My house is on stilts and was thinking of having a wood heater under the house with a flu running up through the house floor to roof but I wouldn't imagine that to be too effective....lol

Any ideas welcomed!!!

Bob
2nd July 2012, 04:22 PM
Does your Floor have insulation.

Why not a Fire fueled Boiler with Hot Water Heating

Clunk
2nd July 2012, 04:30 PM
Coming from the UK, best way over there was gas central heating using radiators. But the main thing was to get the house well insulated , double glazed windows, cavity wall insulation and decent loft insulation. None of it cheap unfortunately but kept the costs of heating the house right down......
Sorry mate that's all I got

AB
2nd July 2012, 04:34 PM
Thats what I'm thinking Bob. No I dont have floor insulation.

Wood fired boiler outside with the hydronic water lines running into the lounge room and bedroom and the hydronic panels in the two rooms.

Like the diagram below but wood fired instead of gas...

http://www.bakerlightindustries.com/heatgas.png

AB
2nd July 2012, 04:35 PM
Coming from the UK, best way over there was gas central heating using radiators. But the main thing was to get the house well insulated , double glazed windows, cavity wall insulation and decent loft insulation. None of it cheap unfortunately but kept the costs of heating the house right down......
Sorry mate that's all I got

Unfortunately Im not on mains gas so it will cost a bomb. I have shiploads of wood though...LMAO

Bob
2nd July 2012, 04:38 PM
Thats what I'm thinking Bob. No I dont have floor insulation.

Wood fired boiler outside with the hydronic water lines running into the lounge room and bedroom and the hydronic panels in the two rooms.

Like the diagram below but wood fired instead of gas...

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/

Insulating your Floor will be necessary and have a look at this . Same as uour idea above :

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/hot-water-heating-systems-d_475.html

AB
2nd July 2012, 04:50 PM
Yes, that would suit my place perfect. My house is 1.5m high off the ground on the lower side too.

Would love to know if anyone has this or been in a house who has this to see how effective it is...

Damn those boilers arn't cheap though...lol

Maxhead
2nd July 2012, 04:57 PM
Hey Andy, I was looking at doing something similar just a couple of years back but the cost of the boilers is still pretty high here. Coming from Poland we used these in every apartment building, Each suburb had a big boiler station pumping hot water to all buildings.

2 years back in Poland I helped mu uncle set one up on a property, cost him $2000(converted to au$) for the burner and about $2000 for the panels and pipe(huge house + office). All this was top of the line so you can see the price difference. He has pipes running in his bathroom floor as well, easy to do.

...good luck



http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hydronic-Heating-Panel-New-/150844751839?pt=AU_Building_Materials&hash=item231f0c3fdf#ht_500wt_1361

growler2058
2nd July 2012, 04:59 PM
Had a mate got busted by the coppers for a hydroponic set up ;-)


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AB
2nd July 2012, 05:06 PM
Hey Andy, I was looking at doing something similar just a couple of years back but the cost of the boilers is still pretty high here. Coming from Poland we used these in every apartment building, Each suburb had a big boiler station pumping hot water to all buildings.

2 years back I helped mu uncle set one up on a property, cost him $2000(converted to au$) for the burner and about $2000 for the panels and pipe(huge house + office). All this was top of the line so you can see the price difference. He has pipes running in his bathroom floor as well, easy to do.

Here's a good start mate...good luck

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hydronic-Heating-Boiler-Sime-2002-Modle-/150844003940?pt=AU_Heaters&hash=item231f00d664#ht_818wt_55

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hydronic-Heating-Panel-New-/150844751839?pt=AU_Building_Materials&hash=item231f0c3fdf#ht_500wt_1361

Thanks mate...I was just looking at that one on Ebay...lol

That's gas powered though yeah?

Maxhead
2nd July 2012, 05:10 PM
yeah, just realised....hahah.

there's a few in us but friggin postage would be a killer.

taslucas
2nd July 2012, 05:13 PM
Had a mate got busted by the coppers for a hydroponic set up ;-)


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Helpful as usual! Lmao.

A mate has a massive wood fired furnace room half in, half under his house. He has ducted heating coming off it going all through the house. The ducts are sealed where they go through the furnace room so there's no smoke it's just the air that's been pulled from one area, then heated and pumped into another area. The furnace is built to take big logs (eg, 1.5 metres long if you wanted) so you can fill it up and it burns for 24 hours before needing more wood. The door to the furnace room can be accessed from outside

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Maxhead
2nd July 2012, 05:46 PM
Have a look at this site from Poland. cheap postage too. http://kotly.com.pl/kategoria-wood-boilers-28.html?l=en

there are wood boilers and gasifying ones which are a ;lot more efficient and you only feed them once a day...worth spending the bit extr.


Next couple of years I'll get one

AB
2nd July 2012, 07:10 PM
Have a look at this site from Poland. cheap postage too. http://kotly.com.pl/kategoria-wood-boilers-28.html?l=en

there are wood boilers and gasifying ones which are a ;lot more efficient and you only feed them once a day...worth spending the bit extr.


Next couple of years I'll get one

Thanks mate, I'll check it out. Agreed worth spending money on a good one...

Stropp
2nd July 2012, 09:40 PM
Mate a big radiant wood heater with a fan forced heat transfer kit is the go, uses the heat build up on the ceiling to shift into the rooms that need heating, I am in the heating game and nothing heats like a wood fire, everything else will dissipate the heat very quickly but a wood heater especially radiant will hold the. Heat for a long time if it does go out, I haven't had any experience with hydronics as its not something that is very common in WA, pm me if you need a contact over in Victoria. Cheers Stropp

AB
2nd July 2012, 09:59 PM
Thanks mate, I got a wood heater now and it works a treat. my daughter is just constantly sick and I'm thinking it might be because of the heater. Doing some tests now to find out...

Unfortunately my house has exposed beams and no cavities to run ducts in the roof either which sux!

Sir Roofy
2nd July 2012, 10:07 PM
wood is the way to go andy its time to pull that old heater out and up grade to a new one
as stopp said you can move the heat around up stairs/down stairs just put in a heat bank

threedogs
2nd July 2012, 10:13 PM
Hey AB used to service and repair boilers before I was injured if you decide to go that way, might be able to help

my third 256
3rd July 2012, 08:00 AM
you could also put ceiling fans in to shift the hot air around and pushes the hot air down
we do this in our house and dont need to have the heater on very high

taslucas
3rd July 2012, 08:03 AM
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Unfortunately my house has exposed beams and no cavities to run ducts in the roof either which sux!

Under floor ducting?