Outback Ideas Recovery points

[threedogs]

Who's manuel ??? lol

[macca]

Didn't realise you weren't, but now you are.

Good on ya John.

[rusty_nail]

good on ya john for jumping onboard mate!

[Clunk]

Who's manuel ??? lol

Isnt he the guy that works at Farty Towels with Basil?

[NissanGQ4.2]

Welcome John

Any forum member discounts??????????????????? *LMAO*

[megatexture]

I'd be happy with an intro!

[TPC]

Onya John, good quality stuff.

[Drewboyaus]

Hi TD,
What are my options on a GQ for front recovery points? I'm running an ARB winch bar if that has an impact.
cheers,
Drew.

[threedogs]

I have a replacement for the drivers side OE hook,
or if you want to use two you'll need to remove the
bulbar and make a plate to slide inside chassis,
Mudski fitted two using this method.
The plate also has provision for one of those 4.7t black hooks with the spring steel keeper

Edit reason is you only have captive nuts on the drivers side

[Drewboyaus]

I have a replacement for the drivers side OE hook,
or if you want to use two you'll need to remove the
bulbar and make a plate to slide inside chassis,
Mudski fitted two using this method.
The plate also has provision for one of those 4.7t black hooks with the spring steel keeper

Edit reason is you only have captive nuts on the drivers side

What about something to bolt up using the same bolts that are used on the bar?
They make use of a plate with captive nuts attached as part of the bull bar mounting supplied by ARB
I really don't want to have to pull the winch and bar off. That would be a PITA....

[threedogs]

Just wondering if my "tee" style would fit the GQ, I can check it out tomorrow at a local shop.
He only does Patrols so will have one there.
Or you could pop over one night and see what we can come up with only 12min from Essendon

[Drewboyaus]

Just wondering if my "tee" style would fit the GQ, I can check it out tomorrow at a local shop.
He only does Patrols so will have one there.
Or you could pop over one night and see what we can come up with only 12min from Essendon

Happy to drop over mate. Could possible do Thursday?

[threedogs]

Sounds like a plan

[AB]

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Here you go 3d

[Clunk]

can't really tell by the photo but how exactly are the ARB bars attached?

[taslucas]

can't really tell by the photo but how exactly are the ARB bars attached?

bolts are the norm




lmao

[BigRAWesty]

I think AB's is just a standard bar modded for a winch..
The deluxe winch bar wraps around the chassis and uses the 3 bolts either side and 2 under..

[taslucas]

bolts are the norm




lmao


I think AB's is just a standard bar modded for a winch..
The deluxe winch bar wraps around the chassis and uses the 3 bolts either side and 2 under..

yeah on a serious note, i think mine is an ARB bar (modded to fit a winch) and it slides into the chassis rails with two side bolts and one from underneath on each side

[Drewboyaus]

I have the ARB deluxe bar. I will post a pic if either side in a little while.

[Drewboyaus]

Rhs
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lhs
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[Clunk]

Rhs
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lhs
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So if that's how they attach, then the left hand side should have captive nuts in place on the barwork so you'll be able to use the standard GQ plates but may need longer bolts.

[Drewboyaus]

So if that's how they attach, then the left hand side should have captive nuts in place on the barwork so you'll be able to use the standard GQ plates but may need longer bolts.

That is what I hope will happen. There are only 2 bolts used for securing the bar on the LHS so I'm hoping that is enough......I would think it should be.

[Clunk]

That is what I hope will happen. There are only 2 bolts used for securing the bar on the LHS so I'm hoping that is enough......I would think it should be.

Having said that though, those holes are in a different orientation to the ones on the right hand rail. Did the have to droll those holes in the left rail, or were they already there?
Mine were already there but the mirror image to the right side.

[Drewboyaus]

All the holes were already there and ARB supplies the mounting plates that slide down inside the chassis rail.
I think you'll find the positioning of the two holes on the LHS is the same as two of the holes on the RHS but there is a third on the RHS that could be drilled on the left but would need a nut in the inside of the chassis and I'll be buggered if I'm pulling the winch and bar off again to do it.

[Clunk]

Like so........ Fit TD's plate to the left side rail with the aid of a captive nut plate from patrol apart.
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Right side
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As you can see my bar attaches to the inside edges of the chassis rail not through the inside.

[Drewboyaus]

Like so........ Fit TD's plate to the left side rail with the aid of a captive nut plate from patrol apart.
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Right side
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As you can see my bar attaches to the inside edges of the chassis rail not through the inside.

That still means I need to pull the bar off to slide the captive nut plate down the chassis rail though.

[Clunk]

That still means I need to pull the bar off to slide the captive nut plate down the chassis rail though.

now I've jumped on the lappy I can see your photos properly and understand what you mean

[BigRAWesty]

That still means I need to pull the bar off to slide the captive nut plate down the chassis rail though.

Yes, yes you will.. I'd pull the drivers side out and make a mirror image for the passenger side..
Also make them all the same bolts..
For some reason mine are different..

[Drewboyaus]

Yes, yes you will.. I'd pull the drivers side out and make a mirror image for the passenger side..
Also make them all the same bolts..
For some reason mine are different..

No. No I won't. LOL
I have zero intention of pulling the bar off. I have many more useful (or frivolous) things to do with my time than that. That LHS will either go on with 2 bolts or not at all.

[BigRAWesty]

No. No I won't. LOL
I have zero intention of pulling the bar off. I have many more useful (or frivolous) things to do with my time than that. That LHS will either go on with 2 bolts or not at all.

I'm with you.. It should be ok with 2. I'll be doing mine soon so if you guys want a set give us a yell..

[AB]

Hi john, I'm having computer issues at the moment so ill paste the pics here.

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[BigRAWesty]

There ya go. Winch bar..
Yours does wrap the chassis..
Simple plates for you my friend, will just have to get that 3rd nut..

[Drewboyaus]

There ya go. Winch bar..
Yours does wrap the chassis..
Simple plates for you my friend, will just have to get that 3rd nut..

It's exactly the same mounting as mine.

[threedogs]

Changing computer services ATM so using via my Smart phone.
What ARB did as those holes for recovery were tearing out they welded washers {thick ones} either side to beef them up'
But as Kallen says only one plate on drivers side unless you drop the bull bar.
ALso being non airbag you can drill and fit Two hooks on the uprights of the Cato straps But these will need to be braced with a fully welded backing plate.
Or drill and fit 2 x M24 Eye bolts in line with the chassis rails, worlds your oyster

[Drewboyaus]

OK, so I reckon I'll do the OEM hook replacement. That should do for now as I was going to drill holes for the M24 eyes in the bar as I have a pair of those sitting around.
How much for the RHS John?
Cheers,
Drew

[hempo]

Thanks TD, just ordered some recovery points. Cheers

[AB]

Hi td not sure what happened mate but I'm keen to get some points off you and showed you those pics, did you work out what I needed?

It all went to poo when we had our meet up...

[threedogs]

No probs will get it sorted , this is the picture of the one to suit the GQ,
You can also bolt a black hook to it if need be.

Edit or you could bolt one of these in line with the chassis rails on the
front of Bullbar either side of winch

[AB]

No probs will get it sorted , this is the picture of the one to suit the GQ,
You can also bolt a black hook to it if need be.

Edit or you could bolt one of these in line with the chassis rails on the
front of Bullbar either side of winch

Cheers 3D, let me double check my bar today and I'll get back to you mate.

[threedogs]

@ MitchM these are the 2 styles I'm thinking will fit, the folded fit under the chassis rails and the other bolts to the outside of bulbar.
That hook one I've been using for years, had another on my other 4x4 as well great around camp and on the tracks for quick hook ups, but don't make them any more.

[Mitch.mccabe]

I fitted my 3D Recovery points! They feel and look very heavy compared to the standard ones, just need to get it dirty now!!!
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/11/3.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/piercemenow1/10603687374/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/piercemenow1/10603687374/) by piercemenow1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/piercemenow1/), on Flickr

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Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/piercemenow1/10603627135/) by piercemenow1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/piercemenow1/), on Flickr

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Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/piercemenow1/10603607295/) by piercemenow1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/piercemenow1/), on Flickr

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Well done threedogs, WELL DONE!!!!!

[threedogs]

Now I see problem That plastic Nissan Cover, but looking good no doubt about it

[Mitch.mccabe]

Haha that would've done it

[threedogs]

From end of hitch to centre of hitch pin is either 65mm or 45 mm.
not knowing which I opted for 65mm plus 5mm if I'm wrong.
Maybe its 69mm ,but its in that's all that matters, I like that one as its one
of my stronger ones and gives a better departure angle than some others

[rottodiver]

Well at about 11.30 am (Perth time) on Monday this week i pm's three dogs wanting a couple of recovery points for the patrol......

it is now Wednesday 5pm and the recovery points are here an installed!!!

That is amazing service, where else do you get that kind of service!!

The hardest part of the whole episode was getting the high tensile bolts at the correct pitch(which three dogs told me the size to get so it made life so much easier to source)

Thanks heaps threedogs it is appreciated..

Scotty

[happygu]

I fitted my 3D Recovery points! They feel and look very heavy compared to the standard ones, just need to get it dirty now!!!
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/11/3.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/piercemenow1/10603687374/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/piercemenow1/10603687374/) by piercemenow1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/piercemenow1/), on Flickr

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/11/4.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/piercemenow1/10603627135/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/piercemenow1/10603627135/) by piercemenow1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/piercemenow1/), on Flickr

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/11/5.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/piercemenow1/10603607295/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/piercemenow1/10603607295/) by piercemenow1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/piercemenow1/), on Flickr

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/11/6.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/piercemenow1/10603612165/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/piercemenow1/10603612165/) by piercemenow1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/piercemenow1/), on Flickr

Well done threedogs, WELL DONE!!!!!


Still so clean Mitch ..... gotta get it dirty now .....

Mic

[Mitch.mccabe]

I know I know!!! Fraser in 2 months! And hopefully some muddy stuff before

[Squalo]

Just for different styles, I don't make hook one anymore Billy Bleed got last one.
I like the hook for ease of use, and you'll find things don't fall up. As hook has no retaining clip.
I like the loop as well cause its very very strong on its own and the M20 eye bolt one I call bush hoop.

Hi John

I'm curious about the 'bush hoop' item. I have lots of experience with recoveries and ran Superior Engineering dual 16mm plates on my last Patrol (I'll take over-engineered over adequate any day), but I'm no engineer. So, call it fear of the unknown, but using an eye bolt that is designed for static load (lifting) in a shock load application doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Have you tested the M20 eye bolt in isolation, or as part of the 'bush loop' assembly? How is the eye bolt fastened to the 50x50 block? How exactly was the product tested?

I've got to be honest, although I can see that your other recovery points are as stout as they come, I look at this item and I don't see 'safe' - I'm not the type to stay quiet about stuff I'm uncomfortable with, hence this post. Looking forward to your response.

[BigRAWesty]

Had a chat to TD about this a while ago.
First up if you look at your shackles there rated to 4.75t if you have 20mm shackles, these eye bolts from memory are 5+..

Also they have been tested and easily reached his 16t bench mark..

So I don't think there needs to be any worry. Same with any recovery gear, treat it with respect..

[threedogs]

Old ground but new members they are static tested to tow 3.5t then destruction tested to see when they"ll break.
This one "Bush Hoop" did not break so it is very strong , originally I put 9T on it, but thouht I better not as the biggest towing capacity
at the time was only 4.5t. It was to stop farmers and others exceeding the rating. Even the guys were shocked who tested it.
This is the last time I'll write on the subject, thanks for your interest.
EDIT There is a huge thread on this topic,
and as I said then if I'm not going to put it on my Patrol why in hell would I want to put it on yours.

[Squalo]

Thanks for your responses John and Kallen. As I mentioned this is something we haven't seen done with recovery points before.

I recall when these ones came out, I already had a billet-style 50x50 hitch receiver but I went out and bought one of these just to see how they were put together:

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/05/25.jpg

I'd like to see a bush loop disassembled to show how the components are fitted together.

[threedogs]

I see some have taking to bashing my products on another thread, I'm here.
That hook is stamped at 4.5 t when assembled its proof tested to that then destruction tested like all other products of mine.
Patrol4x4 has some wizards on it as one joker is too tight to pay for rated front recovery points he made his own out of scrap metal that show s a complete lack of thought IMO
ALL my products are NATA tested try road runner , road safe and all the other copies you buy that are not rated , No more to say
And as I told that person on Patrol4x4 if I'm not prepared to put it on my patrol why would I sell it to you, get a life

[Winnie]

John you might make some great products but you are a terrible salesman. Stop shit canning potential customers and they're home made items and instead prove to them why yours is better without coming across as a dick and you will do so much better

[rusty_nail]

John you might make some great products but you are a terrible salesman. Stop shit canning potential customers and they're home made items and instead prove to them why yours is better without coming across as a dick and you will do so much better

X2 - absolutely right there winnie

[Avo]

Winnie,calm your tits...I don't think he's shit canning the bloke mate but the people on the other forum,who make homemade crap and bag his..

oopps maybe I am wrong.....I see others agree...

[megatexture]

For 39$ id buy one of the other hitch receiver's that is one solid piece not a box and washer welded and surely those hooks arnt that strong i personally wouldnt use them unless they were used as a pair with a bridal strap, the stock nissan hook is thicker

[threedogs]

All wrong read Patrol4x4 and you'll see what I mean, I was canning the guy for making points out of scrap metal and other Patrol4x4 members patted him on the back
1500 bush hoops sold no returns
3000 bush hooks sold one return hook broke , replaced
5000 pairs Nissan patrol folded front recovery points sold they fit other models tojo etc no returns
1000 pairs sold for utes no returns
etc etc etc I'll stand by my product not a piece of scrap metal piece of Siit

[threedogs]

Thanks for your responses John and Kallen. As I mentioned this is something we haven't seen done with recovery points before.

I recall when these ones came out, I already had a billet-style 50x50 hitch receiver but I went out and bought one of these just to see how they were put together:

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/05/25.jpg

I'd like to see a bush loop disassembled to show how the components are fitted together.
I have spoken to DOT and Vic Roads regarding all manners of my recovery points if you know more than them then feel free to PM me with what you have As for those "bush hooks" I haven't made one for years However Piranah do so feel free to drop Alan a line.
PS I never ever made black ones.

[Squalo]

I didn't imply that you made the one in my photo, John. I used it as an example of something a bit different, which is what your bush hoop is. I asked for more information on how the bush hoop is assembled, you have chosen to not provide that information and that is your prerogative.

People making their own recovery points is irrelevant; they are not selling those home-made recovery points to the public. Out of scope in this discussion.

[MudRunnerTD]

Hey John you should not take these questions as a personal attack on your integrity mate, your responses here and to date generally go along that line.

Trust me it would be far far more beneficial describing how well yours are made and laying a Bush Hoop out like Squalo did so there is no question on its strength.

I know you have been smashed with copies, you can't do any thing about that, anyone can unbolt your composite gear and make a copy. Your bent plates are much more difficult to copy but in the right hands Simply enough.

This is your Vendors thread mate! Your Thread! About Your Products. Step up and this your strength in a positive way rather than just trying to cut everyone off at the knees mate. Trust me it does You no good at all bud. From memory that other thread took 20 plus pages before you stepped up! Just bloody Dumb mate! I know you are not!

If a question was put to someone like Ironman he would be all over it showing cross section photos of why ahis Shock was better that the cheap Chinese crap. He would not crack the shits and take it personally, his job is to represent the company.

Your job is to represent you mate. You let yourself get hung out. Step up bud.

[MudRunnerTD]

3rogs this thread and Squalos questions have migrated over from P4x4. All he is asking you to do is show case your product. No answer is the wrong answer mate

[threedogs]

I make the "Bush Hoop" using a M20 eye bolt that is fully welded to a laser cut piece of 12mm x 250 grade mild steel with a 20,5 hole cut in the centre to a piece of 50x50x3 RHS.
Its assembled using a 20MM spring washer and HT nut sometimes I use a Nyloc M20 nut. this is tightened using a rattle gun.
Of the 1500 or so I have sold not one has failed in the field,
Originally because these were so strong we, as in NATA and me put a SWL of 20,000LB on it but That exceeded the tow capacity of any 4wd on the market
so I decided to reduce it to keep in line with other tow points . I then had it destruction tested and the 50x50x3mm RHS split where the pin goes in.
I'll stand by this as a very strong rear recovery point. Most ppl use the billet and shackle or just the pin in the class 2 receiver. I'll dig out the tested one ond put a picture here.
Of all the recovery points on the market I believe only mine are tested and made right here in Melbourne. I cannot vouch for any others at this stage.

Edit Others that are made with the hook only use 1.5 -2mm rhs I have not made any for years now

[Family4x4]

http://www.nata.com.au/nata/

for people who are unsure of who NATA is.

[Squalo]

That sounds like a pretty secure arrangement to me. Thanks John.

[Hodge]

I'll just say one thing here. Way before I bought a patrol, and way before I joined this forum and found out who John is and what he makes... When recovery points were talked about, Outback ideas are the only ones always recommended. I linger on a few other 4x4 forums and that name is the recovery point norm as far as I've seen.
Even a big brand shop bloke swayed me from buying their ones and said mate forget all these, go straight to TJM and pick up a set of out back ideas points as they're the only ones properly tested on the market that he was aware of. So I listened.

[threedogs]

Ok I've been toying with this for a few years , but now I'd like some input .
As you can imagine its hard to make one front recovery point that will suit all model GU's and GQ's,
with all the different bar/motor combo's available. The one pictured will fit every Patrol made,
Yeah I hear you say, It bolts up to the shipping tie down point using one OE captive nut and drilling two more maybe
12 mm holes . So it will have 3 bolts holding it, only downside is the size of shackle you can use. IMO this position would be fine, so any of your thoughts are welcome.

[Winnie]

My only thought is a lot of people will shy away because of the drilling.

[TPC]

My only thought is a lot of people will shy away because of the drilling.
I agree, being a lazy bastard I would not want to have to drill holes.
Already have mine though so I am happy.

[threedogs]

your not drilling the chassis as such , as I said only toying with the idea
And by drilling and added two extra bolts it would make it very strong

[lhurley]

could it not be longer to fit a larger shackle?

[Winnie]

could it not be longer to fit a larger shackle?

Look at the picture, the hole is cut to match the hole behind it.

[lhurley]

Look at the picture, the hole is cut to match the hole behind it.

Der... woops

[FNQGU]

John, don't most Bullbar mounting kits put a bolt through that tie down point?

Well, at least mine seems to.

http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad197/BenKDJ/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-05/IMG_20140515_154015_590_zpsxyb5hccb.jpg (http://s935.photobucket.com/user/BenKDJ/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-05/IMG_20140515_154015_590_zpsxyb5hccb.jpg.html)

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Would these still fit?

[threedogs]

The profile is the same as what is already there., would be ideal if as you say you could use the larger shackle
bit of work with the die grinder, two smaller shackles with a bridle sounds better
@ BenK not for all then hey
Might only be for the tricky motor/bar combo. Keep ideas coming
Looks like my quest for a one fits all wont happen, but at least I have all models covered

[AB]

Finally ordered some front recovery points off threedogs...

Happy to admit I have been running the gauntlet for too long!!!

[lucus30]

Finally ordered some front recovery points off threedogs...

Happy to admit I have been running the gauntlet for too long!!!

Great stuff mate. Next time I'll pull you out of aeroplane with them. Nah probably good the yota came along not sure you could have stopped if I snatched you out from the front

[TimE]

Just finished fitting a pair of Threedogs recovery hooks to my GU IV 4.2 tdi with a Nissan winch bar.

The Bull bar mounting bracket required some trimming with the angle grinder and the bolt hole through the tie down point needed a bit of reeming.

I used 50mm M12 high tensile (8.8) bolts 1.25 thread, got them from Repco, but Bunnings or any other hardware shop should have them. The original M12 (8.8) bolts are only 35mm long, not long enough. All up about 40 minutes for this old phart to fit. The two forward bolts screw into captive nuts, the bolt through the tie down hole (rear bottom) has a nut and big washers.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/timber93au/Fittingtrecoveryhooks_zps1d36f174.jpg (http://s8.photobucket.com/user/timber93au/media/Fittingtrecoveryhooks_zps1d36f174.jpg.html)

[threedogs]

good to see you got them fitted looks like I need to modify a touch by scalloping out a small bit.
Some they go straight on others need a bit of a grind, but good thing is they ain't going anywhere

[MudRunnerTD]

Just finished fitting a pair of Threedogs recovery hooks to my GU IV 4.2 tdi with a Nissan winch bar.

The Bull bar mounting bracket required some trimming with the angle grinder and the bolt hole through the tie down point needed a bit of reeming.

I used 50mm M12 high tensile (8.8) bolts 1.25 thread, got them from Repco, but Bunnings or any other hardware shop should have them. The original M12 (8.8) bolts are only 35mm long, not long enough. All up about 40 minutes for this old phart to fit. The two forward bolts screw into captive nuts, the bolt through the tie down hole (rear bottom) has a nut and big washers.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/timber93au/Fittingtrecoveryhooks_zps1d36f174.jpg (http://s8.photobucket.com/user/timber93au/media/Fittingtrecoveryhooks_zps1d36f174.jpg.html)

hey Time, do you reckon you could change the writing to White on that pic as i am colour blind and simply cant read it mate, its a blur.

Cheers bud

[TimE]

hey Time, do you reckon you could change the writing to White on that pic as i am colour blind and simply cant read it mate, its a blur.

Cheers bud
Yeah it is a bit blury, but click on the pic, then click on the magnifying glass at the bottom right of the pic, then clcik on "view original" magnifying glass that is also on the bottom right of the pop up pic, should now be readable. The text on the pic is basically the same as in the post. Hope that makes sense.

[TimE]

good to see you got them fitted looks like I need to modify a touch by scalloping out a small bit.
Some they go straight on others need a bit of a grind, but good thing is they ain't going anywhere

John,

No biggie to trim and reem, as you have mentioned so many bullbars, so many models of Patrol, it would be impossible to have a "one fits all" solution. If you have a small (100mm) grinder and a decent drill it is an easy instal, and a can of black spray paint to touch up the grinded bits . If this 61 year old ex public servant phart can do it I'm sure anyone can.

Hope your back issues are resolved over the next few days.

[MEGOMONSTER]

G'day 3dogs. I have a mate with a 2007 Hilux and was wondering if you have front recovery point for his vehicle.

[MEGOMONSTER]

G'day 3dogs. I have a mate with a 2007 Hilux and was wondering if you have front recovery point for his vehicle.

Just spoke to 3dogs and they are not available for Hilux, unless it has a TJM bar.

[megatexture]

I was going to say yes he has, I had them on my 05 and 08 hilux but they did both have tjm t13 bars lol

[teach]

Thanks John for your fast service and excellent product, and answering all my questions. They look great and will post up pics when installed. One last question - what bow shackles to use? 3.25t or 4.75t ?

[threedogs]

I think only the 3.2t will fit, glad you like them, enjoy

[Bacho86]

Finally got around to taking some photos of the recovery points today, great product and service - thanks John!

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[threedogs]

no probs at all, nice looking rig BTW

[NP99]

hey Time, do you reckon you could change the writing to White on that pic as i am colour blind and simply cant read it mate, its a blur.

Cheers bud

Not just the colour blind.....lol, my eye sight must be getting worse!

[RubberDuckieGQ]

Hi threedogs, is there anywhere that sells your recovery points (around Melb) and will also fit them?

Still looking into it but think I might get one on the back and also one on the front because not sure how safe the hook on the front is

[threedogs]

PM sent on locations for you

[RubberDuckieGQ]

Thanks a lot will check it out!

[threedogs]

Remember you can only fit one to the drivers side using the existing captive nut on the side of the chassis
To fit two you'll need to drop the bullbar and fabricate a plate
to slide up inside the chassis[LHS] with nuts welded on.

[mudski]

Remember you can only fit one to the drivers side using the existing captive nut on the side of the chassis
To fit two you'll need to drop the bullbar and fabricate a plate
to slide up inside the chassis[LHS] with nuts welded on.

Check my profile and I have a link to a build thread with pics on how to do so...

[RubberDuckieGQ]

Thanks!

I'll check on my work laptop when i get there - couldn't see a link using the app

[threedogs]

You have a GQ don"t you

[RubberDuckieGQ]

yep 91 GQ

haha extra text because it said my msg too short to send! :O

[threedogs]

Thought so, Marks instructions will work to a point but he has a GU.
Easier to trace the holes onto a piece of steel that will slide up the lhs
Drill and weld some nuts on.
Your Avatar show no winch some it might be pretty easy

[Rocket55]

My recovery points turned up today. Thanks very much John, awesome service and quality product. Ordered 11pm Tuesday night, waiting on my door step lunch time Thursday in Sydney, can't ask for much more. :smiley_thumbs_up:

[teach]

Finally fitted the recovery points from Outback Ideas. They look great and will do the job. Thanks John for a great product.
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[threedogs]

Here's a product I've been working on for longer than I care to remember, some /most will know my back is buggered
and I thought What would happen I had a flat out in the Simpson desert, How would I get the tyre/rim down off my roof rack let alone put it back up.
Its a long way to any hospital and driving out if you "did your back" would be very painfull,
Hopefully this will solve all problems, Bolted it to my home made roof rack today to trial it and it worked a treat.
It easily lifted my spare up onto the roof rack. very happy with that, so afew more tweaks here and there and it'll be go to go.
I'll be talking to the laser cutter to incorperate a weak point so a rim/tyre combo or 50kg is the max it will lift.
ATM total weight is 15KG but I think I can get it down to just over 10kg with ease.

[menace 2]

is it hand operated or electric ?...will it be certified for SWL td..?

[threedogs]

yes it will have a SWL of 50kg max,, it uses an ATV winch motor 12v it was very easy to over engineer using only rated fittings
When i have the final design I'll get it tested, From memory they will lift 50kg and hold it for 4 hours or so
if it hasnt sagged at all it passes but a little way off yet, RRP will be around $750,
I will be using 6mm Dyneema instead of 3mm and the 12v ATV motor is rated at 1500KG so we'll see what the NATA ppl say

[Paule]

G'day three dogs just wanted to get a price on your front and rear recovery points for my 03 3ltr patrol with a stock nissan alloy bar. Cheers mate

[threedogs]

PM sent my tee shaped one should fit Just check pic to clarify it

[SG1]

Will be interested on front recovery points for my 02 patrol with Nissan steel bar soon, did read through the threads the other day but cant remember if I needed to have captive nuts to bolt two recovery points on the front and remove bar which sounds like a bit of effort to install?, currently has hook on drivers side.

[Sir Roofy]

will be interested on front recovery points for my 02 patrol with nissan steel bar soon, did read through the threads the other day but cant remember if i needed to have captive nuts to bolt two recovery points on the front and remove bar which sounds like a bit of effort to install?, currently has hook on drivers side.

you should have captive nuts on left side same as right under hook
you will need to make the holes a tad bigger unless john has already fixed that problem

[mudski]

Will be interested on front recovery points for my 02 patrol with Nissan steel bar soon, did read through the threads the other day but cant remember if I needed to have captive nuts to bolt two recovery points on the front and remove bar which sounds like a bit of effort to install?, currently has hook on drivers side.

Go into my user profile mate. I put a link in there to a write up on the how too's on these plates. Well on the plate that fitted mine.

[Family4x4]

Here's a product I've been working on for longer than I care to remember, some /most will know my back is buggered
and I thought What would happen I had a flat out in the Simpson desert, How would I get the tyre/rim down off my roof rack let alone put it back up.
Its a long way to any hospital and driving out if you "did your back" would be very painfull,
Hopefully this will solve all problems, Bolted it to my home made roof rack today to trial it and it worked a treat.
It easily lifted my spare up onto the roof rack. very happy with that, so afew more tweaks here and there and it'll be go to go.
I'll be talking to the laser cutter to incorperate a weak point so a rim/tyre combo or 50kg is the max it will lift.
ATM total weight is 15KG but I think I can get it down to just over 10kg with ease.

Could you possibly use the cars winch? Perhaps from a roller on the front bar and front of roof rack over the car and a boom off the back?

[mudski]

Could you possibly use the cars winch? Perhaps from a roller on the front bar and front of roof rack over the car and a boom off the back?

Of course you could. But what a pita it would be to setup.

[SG1]

Thanks, recovery points sent Monday arrived first thing Tuesday, excellent quality and very happy, will put some pics up in my vehicle thread soon.

[threedogs]

PM sent hope it works

[threedogs]

For those waiting I should have them back from the sheet metal guy next week

[Rocket55]

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John, I've got a 2005 TD42tI which has the lower radiator guard and an ARB Bullbar which mounts as per the pics above.

The folded points won't fit due to the radiator guard.
The "T" points won't fit due the the folded leading edge of the bullbar.

Do you have any other options?

I do have a spare standard front Nissan hook from another vehicle I will mount on the passenger side in the mean time, at least I can spread the load across 2 points, but would like something more substantial in there long term.

[threedogs]

Is that one of my flat plates on the inside of the chassis,
You have now become the third person with this combo Ive come across.
Im going to the laser cutters next week I do have one but it needs some finessing
I might get him to cut some out of MDF and post them to you for a trial fit and see how we go from there.
What I would probably do is if it was mine is install the tee shaped ones , buy cutting that flange off
and welding the TEE plate to it. plenty of ways none easy
from memory that lip is 30mm yes???

[Rocket55]

That's not actually my car, so I don't know what that red plate is in the background, but it's exactly how my Bullbar mounts up. Yes the front leading edge is around 30mm wide.

I'd prefer to avoid welding stuff if I can.

Happy for you to send out some MDF ones for a trial fit.

[threedogs]

do you have 3 vacant captive nuts on the inside of the drivers side chassis.
Passenger side will only have the holes

[Rocket55]

Yes that's correct. Drivers side there is 3 captive nuts in a triangle configuration, 2 at the bottom, 1 at the top. The passenger side, these are just empty holes.

You would need to remove the fan shroud to get a bolt into the rear most bolt hole and it looks like a radiator out job to access the other 2 bolts.

[MudRunnerTD]

I have the same setup John. ARB Delux bar and long radiator. Would likely now be a very common setup.

[threedogs]

LHS is remove the bullbar ,I think Mudski did a DYI thread about opening up the end of the chassis.
My GQ plate fits the RHS of most models and years, but only as asingle

[mudski]

LHS is remove the bullbar ,I think Mudski did a DYI thread about opening up the end of the chassis.
My GQ plate fits the RHS of most models and years, but only as asingle

Yep. Click on my profile and I have the links in there....

[Patrol'n]

Hi John,

Just sent you a pm regarding the rear loop.

Cheers

[threedogs]

hi all other than recovery points I've been working on a spare wheel lifter its been finished for a while now.
I does lift a 285 patrol alloy and tyre from the ground up and onto your roof safely.
It is best if you have a full or 3/4 roof rack, each base will be made to suit which even rack you have.
Try lifting a spare up onto the roof out in the Simmo or up the Cape, None of us arent getting any younger.
Let me know if anyone is interested it has a max lift of 50kg, Any more its up to you lol
Total weight of my unit is around 10KG

[mudnut]

Well done, TD. I hope you get many sales.

[threedogs]

Thanks mate forgot to mention its 12 volts operational, got a rough idea on pricing but Im taking it
to TJM for a better appraisal well below $1000 I hope then freight on top of that

[Avo]

got the recovery points for the Gu the today 3D..thanks..specially since I'm going to be following clunk and stropp next weekend

[booykj]

Pm sent three dogs re: recovery points

[gubigfish]

hey three dogs sent you a pm about some recovery points.

[threedogs]

Thanks for your interest all PMs now replied to

[Hodge]

It's nice to see threedogs' recovery points in current issue of 4WD Action's recovery tips and tricks booklet.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=58440&stc=1

[threedogs]

I still have and use that hook on the back of my Patrol, its earned its keep.
As some know trying to get my roof rack fitted this Saturday, after its on Ill fit my wheel hoist
and do a video I can put here to show you how easy it is to get a wheel from the roof rack to the
ground using only your thumb.

[BSRT.Beast]

I'm looking for bolt on without to much hassle recovery points for this old style arb winch bar

58779

[threedogs]

hi BB PM sent

The easiest solution is to replace the OE hook with my
12mm thick flat plate again very strong.
You can also if you want bolt a 10,00lb black hook to
it as well.
To fit two you'll need to drop the bullbar and make a plate with three 14mmx 1,5 nuts welded to it.
IMHO not the best snatching from only one side, a bridle from two points would even out the weight better.

[dannypatrol]

I still have and use that hook on the back of my Patrol, its earned its keep.
As some know trying to get my roof rack fitted this Saturday, after its on Ill fit my wheel hoist
and do a video I can put here to show you how easy it is to get a wheel from the roof rack to the
ground using only your thumb.

any updates on the video mate? :)

[threedogs]

Been slack as mate and too sore.
But you've given me a reminder to get off my butt.
Need some heavier "U" bolts and thats about it.
I'll go to the bolt place tomorrow and see what they have.
thanks.
Might see if Simon from 4WD tv can do a video on it for me.

[AB]

Hi folks,

3d is staying on for yet another year as vendor!

Thank you for your ongoing support John :)

[rusty_nail]

well done TD! oooo i actually got some money back from tax that the missus dont know about. ill hit you up for some points, been meaning to for ages

[threedogs]

Hi Rusty I'm pretty sure the "T" shaped one will suit you set up,
double check tonight, the folded style fit under the chassis rails
sms sent lol,
Computer on last legs and why bloody not

[Winnie]

Hey John,

Can you PM me some info as to what I need for my GQ, Millweld bullbar if that makes a difference with pricing.
I've been thinking about it for a little while, front recovery points, one each side.

[threedogs]

Not sure how the Milweld mount, can you see
the three holes either side of the inside chassis.
Do you have a close up pic in your build thread I can look at?

[Winnie]

I'll take a pic for you when I get home

[threedogs]

To run two which I highly recommend you'd need to drop
the bar and make a plate to fit inside the left hand chassis.
Nuts required to weld to plate are 14mm x 1.5 pitch,
Hard to find zinc plated bolts but spray can is ok.

[threedogs]

Big thanks to Rusty-Nail for re-doing my first page, looks neater and explains things
a bit better, Hopefully the mods can delete the original first post and replace it with Rusty-Nails link
again thanks heap Rusty

[mudnut]

What is the thickness
of the steel of
your GQ recovery points,
TD?

[threedogs]

12mm with 3 x 14mm bolts holding it in place,
modelled off a series 1 single cab GU comp truck.

Working on a 16mm two piece one that should fit both the GQ and some GUs
Had some cut out of MDF to play with, that will be bullet proof lol

[rusty_nail]

wooo just fitted my new recovery points. they look schmick! very fast postage, and excellent customer service! thanks john! also, do i need to replace the bolts? the ones i had i had to take out a washer, they were long enough to fit the flat and spring washer.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=60670

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=60671

[threedogs]

Just a quick heads up thanks to Gregs a member here Ive been able to get my hands on a brand new Y62.
I have a proto type front recovery point which will be getting cut next week. Turned out to be easier than I thought.
Note this Y62 had no bullbar but I think it should work with a bullbar regardless of which make.
now to watch the copy cats lol

[threedogs]

@ Rusty Those bolts look rusty I'd be changing them for grade 8 zinc plated.
Its a lot of red eh lol

[TimE]

wooo just fitted my new recovery points. they look schmick! very fast postage, and excellent customer service! thanks john! also, do i need to replace the bolts? the ones i had i had to take out a washer, they were long enough to fit the flat and spring washer.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=60670

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=60671

I used 50mm M12 high tensile (8.8) bolts 1.25 thread, got them from Repco, but Bunnings or any other hardware shop should have them. The original M12 (8.8) bolts are only 35mm long, not long enough.

See my post 327 in this thread.

[threedogs]

Going to look at another Y62 tomorrow, so I'll grab some pics of the supercharged engine bay.
This thing goes like a cut cat [fast] lol

[Woof]

Hey TD, what type would suit my 2006 4.2 GU mate, have taken some photos

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[Clunk]

Hey TD, what type would suit my 2006 4.2 GU mate, have taken some photos

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm190/Uriah57/Mobile%20Uploads/012_zpssb5lmdbx.jpg (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/Uriah57/media/Mobile%20Uploads/012_zpssb5lmdbx.jpg.html)

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bloody hell Doggy, wash your car mate!!!!!!! hahahahaha

[threedogs]

@ Tuppa good news and bad, You have the one motor bar combo I cant fit one of my points to.
Good news is I have a proto type thats nearly finished, I'll get some MDF samples cut and post to either
yourself or OD to check for fitment,
I know of no one with the same combo over this way, but a few members have the same.
Ill PM when I have the MDF samples.
Its all to do with that 30mm lip, personally I'd cut it off and fit my "tee" shaped ones,
but some dont like cutting bits off their Patrol lol

[threedogs]

Hi all just an update , the Y62 are being cut and should fit first time and very strong IMO.
Also for ppl with the model/ bulbar combo like Tuppa Ive gone to the Laser cutters and picked up some MDF samples.
As OD has the same combo I'll either fax or email what I have so he can adjust to suit, all I know is the hole centres are right
just not quite in the right position. So bear with me for a while and I'll have points to suit all GU's regardless of the combo.
Its difficult getting hold of all the different Patrols as you could imagine.

FYI the Y62 I'm looking at has already done the front pinion seal and CV seals , bloody thing is brand new
Must admit he is ex comp truck driver[very good] so pushes hard off road.
Yet no excuse to be blowing seals, this Y62 is having a blower fitted soon

[Rocket55]

That's the same as mine Tuppa.

[threedogs]

That's the same as mine Tuppa.

Hey Rocket you have the T one's is that right.
Tuppa cant fit them as there is a 30mm lip near the two bolts
on the third picture

[Rocket55]

Hey Rocket you have the T one's is that right.
Tuppa cant fit them as there is a 30mm lip near the two bolts
on the third picture

No mate, mine is exactly the same as Tuppas, 2005 TD42Ti with and ARB bar with that lip on it.

[Hodge]

I'm pretty sure mine are the same John as I have the same combo. So without chopping it won't fit ??

[Hodge]

Just had a quick look and unsure whether I'm doing something wrong here but this doesn't look like it would fit ? Thoughts TD ???

That bit of metal i circled in red on second photo, the poin'ts wont make it in there with that there ? Am i lining these up wrong or ?

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=61453&stc=1http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=61452&stc=1

[Hodge]

Here is a bretter photo of the prior one. Circled in red is the bit of metal in the way. Fair bit of metal off the bull bar bracket.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=61454&stc=1

[threedogs]

Yeah they wont fit I have a proto type here I was going to send to Once Disturbed to trial fit.
Yell out when you take them back and Ill meet you there. Bummer thats the same as Tuppa and a few others
I have one finished just needs tweaking.

[threedogs]

Up date on the 4.2td's with the factory bar, Ive been trial fitting them with Eric[hodge]
finally got a design that fit , picked them all up this morning only to find the Laser Cutter did not include
my modifications, No biggie they should be ready monday or tuesday morning.
Happy to have this recovery point sorted at last

[nissannewby]

Must be to do with the airbag requirements on the wagons. I have an 04 ute so has a the same radiator etc as hodge but I dont have airbags. There is quite a difference between to airbag and non airbag compliant bars

[threedogs]

With the help of Kallen Ive had a heap of washers cut that you can weld on when you flog out the bush end brackets
on the chassis. They are 40mm with a 16.1mm hole and 3mm thick so easy to weld.
Just PM if you require some will sell as a set of 4 for $8

[threedogs]

Must be to do with the airbag requirements on the wagons. I have an 04 ute so has a the same radiator etc as hodge but I dont have airbags. There is quite a difference between to airbag and non airbag compliant bars

I take it yours doesn't have that lip Hodge highlighted in red

[SKID]

Can you PM me with prices please...

Cheers

[threedogs]

Pm sent mate and roughly what fits what

[threedogs]

Hi everyone need a hand from all those with the factory bar that bolts up to the OE
shipping tie down point. Basically need to know where that bolt is in relation to the hole.
EG is it right in the middle if so great, but need a few answers to get a complete picture.
Thanks in advance for this. as per post from Hodge 411

[Avo]

what year,i have a gu 2010 with a Nissan factory bulbar and it fitted up no problems?

[threedogs]

Might have explained it wrong , where is the bolt that back[lower] one in relation to the OE tie down hole
Is it central. I want to cut a backing plate the same shape as the OE shape.
I think it will be better than using even a HT washer.
I think about 6mm either side [smaller] with the slotted hole may work, thoughts

Late edit;; Ive come up with a design that should suit it better, wooo hoooo

[King_ady1]

Hi everyone need a hand from all those with the factory bar that bolts up to the OE
shipping tie down point. Basically need to know where that bolt is in relation to the hole.
EG is it right in the middle if so great, but need a few answers to get a complete picture.
Thanks in advance for this. as per post from Hodge 411

On Mine, the bolt is slightly to the rear. Can't see exactly as there is a big washer in the way, but I can see about 2mm gap at the front of the washer. If that makes sense. If u want I could pull the bolt out and take some pics for you.

[threedogs]

Its ok now Im making a plate the same shape but 6mm in from all sides with a 12mm x 16mm slotted hole .
That should allow it to fit all and cover that hole. oh and 4mm thick should do it I reckon

[King_ady1]

That sounds like a win to me.

[Woof]

Bloody hell mate, these things have turned into a pain for you

[BigRAWesty]

With the help of Kallen Ive had a heap of washers cut that you can weld on when you flog out the bush end brackets
on the chassis. They are 40mm with a 16.1mm hole and 3mm thick so easy to weld.
Just PM if you require some will sell as a set of 4 for $8
FYI you'll probably want 8 per set.. one each side of all 4 bolts..
That's what most kits are anyway..

[threedogs]

Just a quick thank you to all for the support through the year,
have a great Xmas and New Year and stay safe.
Look forward to all the stories next year, again thanks
John [TD]

[threedogs]

Hi all need some help from the GQ owners out there.
Im getting some switch plates made for my GU that
suits the panel on the centre console with a few knock outs for some
switches, as we all know they are way too small.
I have the GU one all drawn up and will house 3 x Carling switches
and one toggle switch of your choice. The size of the GU one is 230 x 30.

All I need to know is the size of the GQ one If its the same great if not
a seperate plate will need t be cut. speaking of cutting it will be cut
from 2mm black perspex.

[Winnie]

I've got my centre console out of the car at the moment John... let me know exactly what you want measured and I'll have a look at it tonight.

[threedogs]

That space where you normally put the lockers switches
Just measure from the front please trying to make it as
easy as possible for others

[threedogs]

Bumped for Winnie or other GQ owners

[Winnie]

Bumped for Winnie or other GQ owners

Crap, sorry mate I totally forgot.
I'll see how I go remembering tonight but if you give us a reminder after 5pm I'll get it!

[threedogs]

@ Stropp or any others with the later model CRD GU can I get you to
run a tape on the centre console [arm rest] switch panel and see what you get.
The Di is 230mm x 30mm, see previous post for location.

[Stropp]

@ Stropp or any others with the later model CRD GU can I get you to
run a tape on the centre console [arm rest] switch panel and see what you get.
The Di is 230mm x 30mm, see previous post for location.

will see if i can remember, i got CRAFT lol

[BigRAWesty]

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/01/234.jpg
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/01/235.jpg
The gq..

The gq has the power mirrors control in this pannel.. so not sure how that'll work..

[threedogs]

Thats great thanks not all have power windows Id say.
204 x 35mm would fit. can fit 3 x carling in that panel
Good to see you have inches on your tape, lol
So I have the GQ and Di covered .

I see you have a dog to or a cat

[BigRAWesty]

You looking to overlap behind or insert to front??

[BigRAWesty]

Gu 08
Had a slanted top to it
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/01/236.jpg
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/01/237.jpg

[threedogs]

Ripper the later panel is the same, not worried about that small angle.
You'll hardly notice it once the replacement panel is in place.
I get 230 can you measure from the 100mm mark and see what you get please, TIA

You need a stiff paint brush on the GQ to clean all the dog hair lol

You can either pop rivet or glue this new panel on from the front

[BigRAWesty]

Yep. 230 same as you

[threedogs]

@ Kallen OOI is your panel blank mine is for an ST
I wonder if the more up speced ones use those knock outs.

[Winnie]

Ripper the later panel is the same, not worried about that small angle.
You'll hardly notice it once the replacement panel is in place.
I get 230 can you measure from the 100mm mark and see what you get please, TIA

You need a stiff paint brush on the GQ to clean all the dog hair lol

You can either pop rivet or glue this new panel on from the front

Have you looked at them from the back? There are four screw holes, would be a heaps better mounting option and look heaps better.
I'll take a pic of the back tonight for you.

[BigRAWesty]

Have you looked at them from the back? There are four screw holes, would be a heaps better mounting option and look heaps better.
I'll take a pic of the back tonight for you.
Yea that's what I was thinking.
Make a complete new pannel..

And td it has one push out but I can see moldings threw the top so I'd say the they can be cut out for switches

[threedogs]

Ill need to see one first preferably from a GU , but GQ is still ok.
I have no plans on pulling my console out anytime in the future but
maybe Eric might be doing his soon.
Just need it traced with measurements on it.

The way I was going to do it you didnt need to tear half your patrol
apart to fit it. KIS

[growler2058]

Ill need to see one first preferably from a GU , but GQ is still ok.
I have no plans on pulling my console out anytime in the future but
maybe Eric might be doing his soon.
Just need it traced with measurements on it.

The way I was going to do it you didnt need to tear half your patrol
apart to fit it. KIS


What are we making?

[Winnie]

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/01/245.jpg

[threedogs]

Thats got angles on it eh Winnie, if that was the case I'd need to make it from 1mm aluminium
not sure that would work looking at that pic.

@ Growler that switch panel on the centre console those switch holes are too small
so toying wuth the idea if making one to suit both the GU and GQ the GU one will
allow 3 carling style switches and one toggle, where the GQ will have just 3 carling switch cut outs

EDIT:: still think its easier to just pop rivet or glue the panel from the front,,easy as.
Ill get some samples cut in mdf and see how they look

[Kimbo63]

Just finished fitting a pair of Threedogs recovery hooks to my GU IV 4.2 tdi with a Nissan winch bar.

The Bull bar mounting bracket required some trimming with the angle grinder and the bolt hole through the tie down point needed a bit of reeming.

I used 50mm M12 high tensile (8.8) bolts 1.25 thread, got them from Repco, but Bunnings or any other hardware shop should have them. The original M12 (8.8) bolts are only 35mm long, not long enough. All up about 40 minutes for this old phart to fit. The two forward bolts screw into captive nuts, the bolt through the tie down hole (rear bottom) has a nut and big washers.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/timber93au/Fittingtrecoveryhooks_zps1d36f174.jpg (http://s8.photobucket.com/user/timber93au/media/Fittingtrecoveryhooks_zps1d36f174.jpg.html)

Hi all not trying to be a smart a** but grade 8.8 is called structural grade hi tensile will have to have 12.9 stamped in the head just don't want someone hurt because they thought they had hi tensile bolts
Cheers Kimbo

Ps. Don't take this the wrong way 8.8grade bolts is more than adequate for this purpose was just pointing out that if something called for hi tensile bolts don't fit 8.8 grade bolts.
I have all too often seen what happens when the wrong grade bolts are used in my trade

[threedogs]

Grade 8 is about the highest joe blow can buy without going to a specialist bolt outlet.
A 12.9 bolt would cost a small fortune imo and a grade 8 will have a very high shear factor.
But all this has beeen done to death Ill try and find a link for that plate for you.[will put here]

[threedogs]

Finalized the drawing for the switch panel so if any one is interested just PM.
Im getting a 3 carling switch panel cut for the GQs and a 3 carling switch and 1 toggle switch for
the GUs, the toggle switch with a missile cover could be used as power cut off
for the winch.

Will be getting a MDF sample cut first but pretty confident it'll work first time
Price wise Im hoping about $15 a panel depends what they charge me but it
wont break the bank thats for sure, lol

Do most GQs have power windows???

[Winnie]

Finalized the drawing for the switch panel so if any one is interested just PM.
Im getting a 3 carling switch panel cut for the GQs and a 3 carling switch and 1 toggle switch for
the GUs, the toggle switch with a missile cover could be used as power cut off
for the winch.

Will be getting a MDF sample cut first but pretty confident it'll work first time
Price wise Im hoping about $15 a panel depends what they charge me but it
wont break the bank thats for sure, lol

Do most GQs have power windows???

Wouldn't say most... probably most don't

[threedogs]

Had a bit more time to think about this switch panel ,,,,,,now Im making it out
of 1mm 304 stainless, it will just super glue into sitchu, easy as.
It will provide slots for three carling and one toggle switch

[threedogs]

Just brought a truckload of double sided suction cups , these will make it easier to fit the cargo window protectors.
Seeing as you'll be packing to the roof Im getting them cut in black perspex 3mm, not sure what blend yet the laser guys
would know more. If you have a cargo barrier you cant see out the rear cargo window anyway.
Now just to source a large piece of cardboard 2 sheet or heavier and draw up a template.
After your weekend away just remove them and you're back to normal. lol
Ill also be submitting the centre console knock out plates at the same time.

[threedogs]

OK I have the suction cups for my newest product, and would like expressions of interest.
product is a false window for the inside of the cargo window. This will be the same shape as the window and
stuck in place using double sided suction cups, so no drilling or cutting.
This will allow the cargo windows to be blacked out making your fridge run more efficiently
No idea of price yet but it wont be too much, Im thinking Limo as the best colour,
as you cant see out of then anyway

[Hodge]

I'd been keen on getting a set mate. I remember posting about these a while back. Somebody mentioned garage door insulation material ??

As I haven't got around to it yet, might as well try yours. Let us know more info about it.

[threedogs]

I'd been keen on getting a set mate. I remember posting about these a while back. Somebody mentioned garage door insulation material ??

As I haven't got around to it yet, might as well try yours. Let us know more info about it.

leave it with me should take to long, as well s helping the
fridge run more efficient it might keep the ppls away from looking in.
I know they work I did it to my troopy

[lucus30]

OK I have the suction cups for my newest product, and would like expressions of interest.
product is a false window for the inside of the cargo window. This will be the same shape as the window and
stuck in place using double sided suction cups, so no drilling or cutting.
This will allow the cargo windows to be blacked out making your fridge run more efficiently
No idea of price yet but it wont be too much, Im thinking Limo as the best colour,
as you cant see out of then anyway
You already know I'm interested

[threedogs]

Hey TD, what type would suit my 2006 4.2 GU mate, have taken some photos

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm190/Uriah57/Mobile%20Uploads/012_zpssb5lmdbx.jpg (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/Uriah57/media/Mobile%20Uploads/012_zpssb5lmdbx.jpg.html)

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm190/Uriah57/Mobile%20Uploads/011_zpssyzr9p1l.jpg (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/Uriah57/media/Mobile%20Uploads/011_zpssyzr9p1l.jpg.html)

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm190/Uriah57/Mobile%20Uploads/010_zpsnvnbc5gi.jpg (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/Uriah57/media/Mobile%20Uploads/010_zpsnvnbc5gi.jpg.html)

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm190/Uriah57/Mobile%20Uploads/009_zpskx2u56zp.jpg (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/Uriah57/media/Mobile%20Uploads/009_zpskx2u56zp.jpg.html)

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm190/Uriah57/Mobile%20Uploads/008_zpsxk3va1ak.jpg (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/Uriah57/media/Mobile%20Uploads/008_zpsxk3va1ak.jpg.html)

Hi mate I should have put this here months ago when I finallised design on Erics 4.2 2006 model
Anyway here are a few pics, only thing is a small piece of about 20mm will need to be trimmed off one
edge to allow the point to be closer to the chassis.
shown in pic 1&4

[Woof]

All installed and used once mate, thanks heaps

[Shaun 4x4]

Hi John,

Been awhile since i need your services.

Any chance your doing front points for the Y62?

[MB]

Gday John,
Apologies for delay with UK coating tests.
Ripper products you have engineered mate !
All's good mate?

[MB]

G'day John, thanks heaps for the last set of recovery points for our family wagon build mate, awesome gear they are ! Which ones of your models might suit/under a Millweld bar I'm dreaming of for my ute project?

[threedogs]

G'day John, thanks heaps for the last set of recovery points for our family wagon build mate, awesome gear they are ! Which ones of your models might suit/under a Millweld bar I'm dreaming of for my ute project?

What year ute do you drive and what was the original motor??

[MB]

Sorry John I just remembered Mill mentioning that to install my chosen new bar oneday that they cut something like 80mm off the chassis. Might be safest for me to raincheck the ute points until the bar is actually on, hopefully before next easter if coin can permit. Cheers mate!

[threedogs]

I dont think 80mm will cause a problem, happy to wait ,lol

[macca]

I have recently had the front bar replace with this ARB unit, preferred another brand but it was not something I could do much about at the time.

Any way when the panel beater put the recovery points on they were upside down / inside out, stuffed if I know how they managed it. Harrold Scrubie would have had orgasm's referring me to the authorities! They seriously impacted on my front approach angle!!

The problem was there was no flat surface to get all 3 bolts in so they used 2 with a 25mm spacer on one!

I took them off as soon as I got home and realised that to get them to sit correctly 3 x 25mm spacers were needed plus longer bolts. Some 40mm diameter aluminium rod cut and drilled to suit now has them sitting right.

My question, is this acceptable to mount them like this?

Some pics that might help explain.

The new bar
69985

Mounting recovery points
69984

69983

edit; The damn pics are all upright in the file but do this when linked, any help out there?

[gubigfish]

Hey threedogs I've got a 2004 ST 4.2 Coil Cab-Chassis with a Nissan Factory bull bar on it can you advise what recovery points suit and the cost delivered to 6164

[threedogs]

I have recently had the front bar replace with this ARB unit, preferred another brand but it was not something I could do much about at the time.

Any way when the panel beater put the recovery points on they were upside down / inside out, stuffed if I know how they managed it. Harrold Scrubie would have had orgasm's referring me to the authorities! They seriously impacted on my front approach angle!!

The problem was there was no flat surface to get all 3 bolts in so they used 2 with a 25mm spacer on one!

I took them off as soon as I got home and realised that to get them to sit correctly 3 x 25mm spacers were needed plus longer bolts. Some 40mm diameter aluminium rod cut and drilled to suit now has them sitting right.

My question, is this acceptable to mount them like this?

Some pics that might help explain.

The new bar
69985

Mounting recovery points
69984

69983

edit; The damn pics are all upright in the file but do this when linked, any help out there?

I have front points for other 4x4s that have 25 mm spacer
with no problems they are held in situ via 3 x 10mm bolts

[threedogs]

Hey threedogs I've got a 2004 ST 4.2 Coil Cab-Chassis with a Nissan Factory bull bar on it can you advise what recovery points suit and the cost delivered to 6164

Check Hodges build thread and see if you have the same set up.
No one else does this set up so would like to keep it that way please
email me at outback ideas at gmail dot com

[macca]

I have front points for other 4x4s that have 25 mm spacer
with no problems they are held in situ via 3 x 10mm bolts

Great stuff. Thanks John. The mounting looks substantial enough and the bolts are bigger so all is sweet.

[threedogs]

Great stuff. Thanks John. The mounting looks substantial enough and the bolts are bigger so all is sweet.

I think now the ones like hodge has now might suit yours better,

you could sell your to GU bigfish if they are suitable, just a thought

[macca]

I think now the ones like hodge has now might suit yours better,

you could sell your to GU bigfish if they are suitable, just a thought

Thanks all the same John, now I have them sitting right and the cost of the ally rod and longer bolts they can stay there.
Freighting to WA, it's not really worth the hassles.
Thanks again for the thought though.

[threedogs]

Royce heres what you want to make life easier Imho.
First get the boost set, then you can attempt some of your
other problems

.http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Nissan-Patrol-Navara-ZD30-DI-CRD-Boost-Gauge-Port-Adapter-Only-Sale-/331988022385?hash=item4d4c073471:g:4m4AAOSw5cNYLPm R

[MB]

G'day John, just a quick check in from the motherland mate. Your beaut chunks of steel have made it through all and are now finally enroute to: http://www.higalv.co.uk/colourgalv/
:-) http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/01/92.jpg


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[MB]

G'evening John threedogs mate!
Your beast recovery points kindly purchased are finally back from expensive Scotland Highland Coaters tests old mate :-)
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They're mostly LRover blokes up there but were suitably impressed with your engineering;-)

[MudRunnerTD]

Hey John hope.your well bud, I need a couple of front recovery points for the GUIV with ARB Deluxe front bar mate. Can yo u pm me a price posted to Lara please.

Legend.

[threedogs]

Do you think the same as Hodges would fit, check his biuld thread sorry its been so long but you know....... MudRunnerTD

[Hodge]

Do you think the same as Hodges would fit, check his biuld thread sorry its been so long but you know....... @MudRunnerTD (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/member.php?u=153)
MudRunnerTD

You will need the same ones as I have Darren. It isn't a direct bolt on like other points John makes. There is a metal lip on one of the bull bar's brakets in the way. However, John, threedogs' metal mastery resolved that fairly quickly. I met up with him several times while he took measurements etc... And then built them to suit, supplied together with special washers for load spreading purposes.
I believe the set I have are the only ones of its kind he made. Yours might be the second!
There is a tiny bit of grinding involved too. I have photos at home if need be.

[Rock Trol]

Hey John. Do you make platforms to replace the middle seats in a wagon?
I remember seeing a picture of your car on a thread where you have removed a seat and replaced it with a platform.

Cheers,
Angelo.

[Hodge]

Hey John. Do you make platforms to replace the middle seats in a wagon?
I remember seeing a picture of your car on a thread where you have removed a seat and replaced it with a platform.

Cheers,
Angelo.


Here you go mate. Mudski sells them here.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Nissan-Patrol-GU-Dickie-seat-mount-covers-beige-1-x-Pair-/331374282505

[Rock Trol]

Here you go mate. Mudski sells them here.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Nissan-Patrol-GU-Dickie-seat-mount-covers-beige-1-x-Pair-/331374282505 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/705-53470-19255-0/1?campid=5336709507&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fitm%2FNissan-Patrol-GU-Dickie-seat-mount-covers-beige-1-x-Pair-%2F331374282505)

Thanks Hodge but I am after a false floor/platform for the middle seats so I can turn it into a two seater. Something I can secure jerry cans, fridge, space cases etc.
I am pretty sure TD has done it to his car.

[PeeBee]

I did this for a while in my GQ wagon, then ripped it out. I have a SS watertank behind the middle seats, plus a cargo barrier. What I found was the removal of the seats only gave me a height advantage of having the seats in place of about 125mm from memory. I had a flat ply floor on a 25mm rhs frame, and really found the area was not any more useful with the tank in the way. maybe you are looking to open the entire rear of the vehicle from back of front seats to rear doors? I hate to be the scare monger, but the old RTA will nail you for seat removal as well especially if the seat belts are left in place. The 'nightmare' VASS' engineer i consulted wanted to legally turn my 7 seater into a 2 seater because of hardware on the cargo barrier - ended up not using him and mine is now a registered 5 seater. Food for thought.

[Hodge]

Thanks Hodge but I am after a false floor/platform for the middle seats so I can turn it into a two seater. Something I can secure jerry cans, fridge, space cases etc.
I am pretty sure TD has done it to his car.Sorry mate. I should have read your post properly.


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[threedogs]

Thanks Hodge but I am after a false floor/platform for the middle seats so I can turn it into a two seater. Something I can secure jerry cans, fridge, space cases etc.
I am pretty sure TD has done it to his car.

Hi mate plenty here just PM for a price

[MudRunnerTD]

MudRunnerTD

You will need the same ones as I have Darren. It isn't a direct bolt on like other points John makes. There is a metal lip on one of the bull bar's brakets in the way. However, John, threedogs' metal mastery resolved that fairly quickly. I met up with him several times while he took measurements etc... And then built them to suit, supplied together with special washers for load spreading purposes.
I believe the set I have are the only ones of its kind he made. Yours might be the second!
There is a tiny bit of grinding involved too. I have photos at home if need be.

Sounds Awesome. I'm travelling back from the Flinders now and will be keen to sort this out. Can you pm me a price John and we will get it done mate. Eric can you link me your build thread cause I'm lazy. Lol.

Thanks guys

[MudRunnerTD]

Do you think the same as Hodges would fit, check his biuld thread sorry its been so long but you know....... MudRunnerTD

Thanks John I thought I quoted you above but missed it. See above.

Happy New Year gents

[Rock Trol]

Hi mate plenty here just PM for a price

PM sent...........

[Bidja]

MudRunnerTD

You will need the same ones as I have Darren. It isn't a direct bolt on like other points John makes. There is a metal lip on one of the bull bar's brakets in the way. However, John, threedogs' metal mastery resolved that fairly quickly. I met up with him several times while he took measurements etc... And then built them to suit, supplied together with special washers for load spreading purposes.
I believe the set I have are the only ones of its kind he made. Yours might be the second!
There is a tiny bit of grinding involved too. I have photos at home if need be.

Hodge, looking at getting pair of recovery point from threedogs, been stumbling around the forum in an attempt to find your build thread (slowly finding my way, but a bit slow to get me head around it all). Could you give me a link of your build so I can have a look at what recovery points/fitting method you ended up with. Mine 08 GU IV wag with genuine steel bull bar / air bag compatible, Recovery hook bolts up to under side chassis rail(RHS). Thinking of the L shaped design (pic 1) or must say do like the look of the "T" profile build.

[TPC]

Hodge, looking at getting pair of recovery point from threedogs, been stumbling around the forum in an attempt to find your build thread (slowly finding my way, but a bit slow to get me head around it all). Could you give me a link of your build so I can have a look at what recovery points/fitting method you ended up with. Mine 08 GU IV wag with genuine steel bull bar / air bag compatible, Recovery hook bolts up to under side chassis rail(RHS). Thinking of the L shaped design (pic 1) or must say do like the look of the "T" profile build.

Yours should be the same as mine.

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[Bidja]

[QUOTE=TPC;756197]Yours should be the same as mine./QUOTE]

Thanks mate, is the same config as mine and will suit well. Cheers

[ozzyboy]

been a while since a post here. are these still being made?

cheers

[MB]

Hoping so too Ozzie mate, do need another great set! threedogs - John mate, hopefully all is well good bloke?


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[threedogs]

MB thanks mate trial coming up going in for another procedure next week
Have stock of most points, might be better to email me at the Gmail address

[MB]

Thanks John appreciated, will do once things have settled for you mate!
All the best, take care, stay safe!!


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[Hodge]

Good ol' Johns recovery points copped a beating from the high country approach angle rocks. Exposed metal by peeling paint or powder coat.
I took them off, sanded them back, cleaned, primed and multiple coated in rust guard as best as I could. RIP Legend!

I think if it happens again, I might opt for the 3 bolt-direct to chassis captives road safe ones.

85583855848558585586

[Stropp]

Good ol' Johns recovery points copped a beating from the high country approach angle rocks. Exposed metal by peeling paint or powder coat.
I took them off, sanded them back, cleaned, primed and multiple coated in rust guard as best as I could. RIP Legend!

I think if it happens again, I might opt for the 3 bolt-direct to chassis captives road safe ones.

85583855848558585586

I had to ream the road safe holes slightly to get them to fit correctly and yes triple checked they are the correct ones

[Cremulator]

I put these on last week Hodge
They were about $75 delivered for the pair and came with all mounting hardware (Not road safe brand).http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2022/07/98.jpg

[Hodge]

I had to ream the road safe holes slightly to get them to fit correctly and yes triple checked they are the correct ones


I put these on last week @Hodge (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/member.php?u=15680)
They were about $75 delivered for the pair and came with all mounting hardware (Not road safe brand).

Thanks fellas.
From very faint memory, back in 2015-ish when I got my Patrol with the TD in it, the only recovery points I could get was Threedogs' ones.
I honestly don't remember Roadsafe or any other branded ones available. TD42 variant had a difference. I can't remember exactly what compared to other ones.

[danielswean4]

Bump!!

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