Illegal to put a jerry can on the rear of a camper?

[AB]

I just spent about 2 hours putting a jerry can holder on the rear bar of the camper right beside the spare wheel and then thought to myself, is that legal????

I haven't bothered to research it but I just thought this is probably illegal if you had a 20 litre jerry can of fuel in the holder and if a car rams up the backside of the camper????

Anyone???

Big fail AB???

[lufkin]

its legal to have jerry can holders on the back of your 4x4, what would the difference be between someone rear ending your 4x4 compared to your camper? i couldnt see why it would be illegal for 1 and not the other

[Maxhead]

I just spent about 2 hours putting a jerry can holder on the rear bar of the camper right beside the spare wheel and then thought to myself, is that legal????

I haven't bothered to research it but I just thought this is probably illegal if you had a 20 litre jerry can of fuel in the holder and if a car rams up the backside of the camper????

Anyone???

Big fail AB???


Not sure mate, but cars have them on the back bar. you'd think that would be illegal as well then

[Winnie]

I dunno man but you see it so often you would think it's no problemo?

[NissanGQ4.2]

What would be the difference between having fuel on the back of a camper and fuel / gas on the side of one.

Yeh sorry mate its illegal in Vic, but if you travel to NSW its legal, then if you head up 2 QLD its illegal again, then if you head over 2 WA, you will be fine, its legal there *LMAO*

[04OFF]

Yes and its very hard to find any real "legal" info about it in QLD, from what i could "gather" , in general it was not allowed/advised on the rear in case you get rear ended, but you can have the fuel can in the car, i put my fuel cans on the roof basket, ironically, i had them on the roof when i rolled the car.

[megatexture]

from what i understand its leagal to have diesel but not petrol ill see if i can rember where i herd/read it. u can still use it for water.

[growler2058]

Paint it yellow and write water on it! Hahahahahahha


Tappin N Crappin

[AB]

Paint it yellow and write water on it! Hahahahahahha


Tappin N Crappin

Don't laugh I was tempted to do that...lol

I just thought I read somewhere that it is legal on the back of the car because the person will hit the rear bar first but on the back of the camper they will hit the jerry can first.

[BillsGU]

I wanted to put twin gas bottles on the back of my camper (to shift weight to the rear) but the caravan place I took it to wouldn't do it because they said it was illegal. When I asked them for a reference to the legislation / rules / whatever - they couldn't give me one. I still don't know if you can or you can't.

[the evil twin]

Legal in W.A. (side or back) as long as you are not carrying more than 250 litres of Petrol and it is in approved containers.

NOTE, mostly the regs do NOT apply to Diesel as Diesel is a different category of material. IMHO Diesel in a jerry in any state is therefore legal.

If it causes a hassle just transfer your rego over here mate... :trink13:

Copy of a recent post (late 2011) courtesy of "Serendipity from Explore Oz"... with the disclaimer ring the numbers and ask...

WESTERN AUSTRALIA

The WA Dangerous Goods Act 1988, and Dangerous Goods (Transport) (Road and Rail) Regulations
1999, contains the relevant regulations, both of which are based on the Australian Dangerous
Goods Code (ADGC), sixth edition.

The maximum permissible quantity is 250 litres of petrol, which should be carried in approved
containers in either the boot or on external brackets. It can be carried within the passenger
compartment, such as the back of a station wagon, in approved, properly restrained containers,
but this is not recommended.
Contact the Explosives and Dangerous Goods Division of the WA Department of Mineral and
Petroleum Resources for further into (08 9222 333)

QUEENSLAND

The Transport Operations (Road Use Management - Dangerous Goods) Regulation 1998 permits
carrying up to 250 litres of dangerous goods (fuel) for personal use. The responsibility for
filling a jerry can and ensuring it is an approved container lies with the person filling the
container.

Under the Transport Operations (Road Use Management) Act 1995 owners are prohibited from
modifying their vehicle, its parts or equipment, and from carrying dangerous goods
(irrespective of quantity or position), in an unsafe manner.

This includes carrying containers upright, ensuring they don't leak and are properly secured,
and do not overload the vehicle (especially if transported on roof-racks). A booklet titled Load
Restraint Guide (available from Commonwealth Government Bookshops) should be consulted
Write to: The Group Manager, Vehicle Safety and Industry Reform Section,
Queensland Transport, PO Box 673 Fortitude Valley QLD 4006.

SOUTH AUSTRALIA

In South Australia, petrol is covered by the Dangerous Substances Act and Regulations, which are
in turn based on the ADGC; therefore, the same 250- limit applies.

Diesel is unregulated, as elsewhere, but the Department for Administrative and Information
Services advises that petrol (and diesel) transportation would be covered by the general duty of
care provisions contained in Sections 11 and 12 of the Dangerous Substances Act.

The Road Traffic Act has provisions for duly of care relating to vehicle safety issues such as
overhanging loads and impact protection. They also state that, while carrying fuel in the
driver's vapour space (in a van or wagon), is much debated, it is up to each individual driver
to assess their own risk and duty of care provisions when deciding whether to fit a range tank
or carry fuel in jerry cans. Dangerous Substances Branch, Workplace Services (08) 8303 0447

VICTORIA

In Victoria, the relevant legislation is the Road Act 1995, which has been adopted from
the, (Dangerous Goods) Act -1995 and the Road Transport (Dangerous Goods) Regulations.

The Regulations reference the ADGC under which Regulation 1.10 exempts small quantities of fuel
from the rigours of the Dangerous Goods legislation. This refers, again, to petrol only. Diesel
is not considered dangerous goods.

They maintain it is the responsibility of the driver items, regardless of type, are firmly and
a fuel should be stored in AS2906 containers minimum requirement.
Write to: Victorian WorkCover Authority, Dangerous Goods Unit
GPO Box 4306 Melbourne Vic 3001

TASMANIA

The Tasmanian government refers these, issues to the Dangerous Goods (Road and Rail Transport)
Regulations 1998, which covers general safety and load restraint safety.

The filling of fuel containers is also covered by AS1940 - Storage and Handling of Combustible
and Flammable Liquids. They advise that a person can carry 250 litres of petrol for private use
(as per the ADOC), but the containers must meet AS2906 Fuel Containers/Portable/Plastics and
Metal.

Tasmanian Vehicle and Traffic (Vehicle Standards) that an object fitted to a vehicle must be
designed, built and maintained to minimise the likelihood of injury. As such, this would
prohibit the fitting of jerry cans containing dangerous or explosive substances to any vehicle
(car,4WD, caravan, trailer), especially given the likelihood of rear or side-impact collisions.

Owners of vehicles should check the 'fine print' of their insurance policies. If fuel is
transported in an unsafe manner and an accident leads to greater damage or injury than might
otherwise have been the case apportion blame to the driver and/or invalidate the policy.
Write to: The Department of Infrastructure, Energy and Resources,
GPO BOX 936 HOBART TAS 7001.

NEW SOUTH WALES

The NSW Environment Protection Authority (EPA) and WorkCover NSW are the competent authorities
for dangerous goods control in NSW. They' administer the Road and Rail Transport (Dangerous
Goods) Act 1997 and the Road Transport Reform (Dangerous Goods) (NSW) Regulations 1998.

Under these laws, jerry cans must be approved containers for the transport of Class 3 liquids
(petrol) (ie, AS2906) and the maximum permissible quantity is 250 litres. Diesel is not
considered a dangerous good, but a combustible, and must be carried in a safe manner.

Division 9.3.1 (1) (e) of the ADGC states that 'if the package (ie, jerry can) contains
dangerous goods of a kind that may lead to the formation of flammable, toxic or other harmful
atmospheres - the package must be stowed so that no harmful atmosphere will accumulate in the
cabin If the package leaks'.

The above would indicate that great care should be taken when storing jerry cans inside a 4WD's
luggage compartment, whether it is a separate boot or part of the passenger compartment. AS2906
containers are designed not to vent to the atmosphere, provided they are in good condition and
the seals/lids are functioning correctly.

Write to: NSW Environment Protection Authority
Dangerous Goods Office
59-61 Goulburn St, Sydney NSW 2000.

NORTHERN TERRITORY.
Only containers which comply with Northern Territory Dangerous Goods Regulation 217 can be used
to transport flammable, (petrol.) and combustible (diesel) fuels. Essentially, this covers
containers complying with AS1533/34 and AS1 940, but 'approved container' is also specified
which indicates that containers complying with AS2906 would also be acceptable.

The Northern Territory Dangerous Goods legislation is b ADGC, which specifies that not more
than 250 litres of petrol can be carried. No quantity is specified for diesel.

Information bulletins are available at www.nt.gov.au/cbb/wha or contact
The Department of Industries and Business, Work Health (08) 8999 511 8

AUSTRALIAN CAPITAL TERRITORY

The transport of fuel is covered under the Dangerous Goods Act. 1975, Dangerous, Goods
Regulations 1978, Road Transport Reform (Dangerous Goods) Act 1995 and Road Transport
(Dangerous Goods) Regulations. The latter takes its requirements from the ADGC.

The DGA (1975) Section, 12 and 14 require fuel to be carried in appropriate, containers
to prevent spillage or leakage, and make it an offence to carry fuel in a manner likely to
cause death/injury, or damage to property.

Section 37(1) of the RTR (DIG) Act1 1995 requires fuel be transported in a safe manner.
Sub Section (2) makes it an offence to do so where a person "ought to have known" that what
they were doing was unsafe or likely to cause damage to persons or property.
Contact: ACT WorkCover (Dangerous Goods) (02) 6207 6354.

[Bob]

As taken from the Post by Evil Twin


The Regulations reference the ADGC under which Regulation 1.10 exempts small quantities of fuel
from the rigours of the Dangerous Goods legislation. This refers, again, to petrol only. Diesel is not considered dangerous goods.

I think you would be OK Ab as Diesel is not Dangerous Goods

I have two Jerry Cans on the Rear Bar of my Camper Caravan and have not been pulled up yet. Not to say that it is Legal though

[AB]

Perfect, exactly what I wanted to see....Thanks ET!!!

[oncedisturbed]

Diesel isn't restricted unlike ULP, if the holders comply with ADR's and you have done everyting that could be "forseeable" under duty of care then there should be no issues