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4th July 2017, 11:13 AM
#1
Legendary
TB42 & TB45 Fuel Economy
Hey Guys,
Can you please post the fuel economy(not guesses though) of your EFI TB42/TB45 units,
both petrol and LPG?
I am avoiding carby TB42's under the assumption they are guzzlers on either fuel, but please let me know your economy if I am wrong about that.
Very much appreciated.
The way I clock the economy is by filling either fuel full tank and run it for 100km or so then refilling it back to full tank and divide the 100km by the amount of fuel liters that take it to be fulltank.
Thanx.
Cheers
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4th July 2017 11:13 AM
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4th July 2017, 02:47 PM
#2
Patrol God
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4th July 2017, 07:46 PM
#3
Expert
their all guzzlers, my old tb42e used to average 20l per 100 around town, best ever fwy run was 13l per 100, once i turboed it it still averaged 20l per 100 but went a shit load faster.
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4th July 2017, 09:02 PM
#4
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Originally Posted by
billyj
their all guzzlers, my old tb42e used to average 20l per 100 around town, best ever fwy run was 13l per 100, once i turboed it it still averaged 20l per 100 but went a shit load faster.
Yeah, but my RB30 is not any better now, and worse by the looks of it. It burns more LPG and more petrol than ever.
I just can't justify it unless I sort it out, otherwise TB42e is a better choice or TD42, if I can afford it.
The thing I'm really pizzed off about right now is the LPG economy, which I haven't been able to improve, even after installing an AFR gauge kit and tuning it for LPG. I don't care much about petrol economy, 'cos petrol is only useful on extreme outback treks where I can't locate any LPG servos. I have a mutli tank LPG setup, so I dunno whether some LPG get stuck in one of the tanks behind the hydro T valve. I just need to find out, but in the meantime, I'm dying to have a unit with more power.
I used to get minimum of 6km/L on both fuels on highways. Now it's doesn't clock anywhere near that.
Last edited by dom14; 4th July 2017 at 09:08 PM.
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4th July 2017, 09:31 PM
#5
Expert
cruiser is doing 13l per hundred while towing 2t...not quite as quick as the turbo patrol was for now.
to truely get the tune right for lpg you really want the dissy regraphed as lpg has quite different timing requierments to petrol, any dual fuel setup will always be a compromise, yes you can get both to run ok but not perrfectly well short of lpg injection and dual mapped ecus etc.
have you done any other mods eg lift bigger tyres roof rack etc that may be costing you economy?
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5th July 2017, 10:44 AM
#6
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Originally Posted by
billyj
cruiser is doing 13l per hundred while towing 2t...not quite as quick as the turbo patrol was for now.
to truely get the tune right for lpg you really want the dissy regraphed as lpg has quite different timing requierments to petrol, any dual fuel setup will always be a compromise, yes you can get both to run ok but not perrfectly well short of lpg injection and dual mapped ecus etc.
have you done any other mods eg lift bigger tyres roof rack etc that may be costing you economy?
There is a lift(2 inch I think). I don't use the roof rack & tyres are standard 31 inch (235/85 R16), so the tyres are hardly causing any excess traction.
I suspect something else is going on. Engine itself may be on it's way, but the compression tests came out ok so far.
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5th July 2017, 10:49 AM
#7
Legendary
Originally Posted by
billyj
their all guzzlers, my old tb42e used to average 20l per 100 around town, best ever fwy run was 13l per 100, once i turboed it it still averaged 20l per 100 but went a shit load faster.
20l per 100 around town is pretty good. The best RB30 can clock is 6km/L as oppose 5km/L of TB42, but your figures above says 100km/13L, which translates to pretty much 6km/L. I see no difference comparing to RB30.
To me, it looks like 3L RB30 engine isn't producing any economical advantage over a TB42 when the TB42 is fine tuned and well maintained.
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5th July 2017, 11:43 AM
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Might be time to give that carby another rebuild?
FWIW, my rb30 with 3" lift, 33's, winch bar, draws +200kg tools, other junk, carrying 5 adults and an unloaded 7x5 trailer used 19L/100km from Pakenham to Warnambool.
Fully loaded on the way back, still 5 adults, a heap more stuff in the back of the car, and the 7x5 was now fully loaded plus a kayak amongst other things (probably an extra tonne of stuff, helping sister move), used 16L/100km on the way back.
Go figure it used less with the heavier load. Was a better wind on the way back though.
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5th July 2017, 01:28 PM
#9
Legendary
Rather than buying another rebuild kit, I reckon I'm better of spending that money on a new carby, and then again that money's better off spending on an EFI setup. I'm ok with the EFI conversion, but just not too keen with spending the time on it.
It's bit hectic atm.
I'll see if I can patch it up for the time being.
LPG system need some looking into it. I've never replaced the converter & mixer with new ones.
Perhaps it's about time I do or consider an EFI conversion.
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5th July 2017, 03:10 PM
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Patrol God
I took my carby and kit to the local dyno guy. and it really ran a lot sweeter on the dyno, even before he tuned it. You haven't got any brake pads dragging?
My advice is: not to follow my advice.
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