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    Quote Originally Posted by Hodge View Post
    I've also found a hose that reduces internal size along the length . Designed for provent 25mm applications. So just cut where the hose diameter suits and you're set. A bit pricey though.

    https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F252254170757



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    They are pricey because its oil resistant silicone. Well thye say it is so hopefully they are selling you oil resistant silicone. Normal silicone will deteriorate faster than rubber when it see's oil. I silicone at work, so I see this all the time.
    Those hose clamps in the pic above Eric too will chew out the silicone hose, lined clamps is what should be used....
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    i used these for reducers...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hodge View Post
    @Cuppa
    I'm interested in what reducers you will be using.
    I've just had a play with some reducers / hoses I've come up with in our diesel hydraulic mechanics work shop.
    One issue I'm slightly concerned about is the internal hose joiners greatly reduce the internal diameter of the hose . So when a joiner is inserted inside a 16mm hose, the hose gains a 11-12mm internal restriction. If that makes sense.
    Now I don't know what pressure this works under or whether or not this will be of any hindrance.
    I've got the reducing kit pictured below at home but the joiners internal passage is 10mm at most.






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    Same joiners /bushes came with my Provent 200, works fine very low operating pressure and flow rate (restriction not a problem). Just been taking mine in and out over last couple of days fitted and adjusting actuator on stage 3 turbo and noted slight cracking at the larger dia of the reducer bush(all good though). For operating pressure, if interested, drain can open drain trap and put finger over end for indication.. My brkt made out of angle section cut from 150mm steel C-purlin (one leg longer in my case).
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    Your mechanics story has some credence - it's happened to me, though the circumstances were a little different.

    My old Hilux sucked some water through a hole in Wombat back in the day. Pulled glowplugs, got it running again, bit smokey for a while but she was ok.

    On the drive home stopped at Deer Park Maccas for a feed, came back out after a couple of McChickens and it's dumped a litre or two of oil on the ground.

    Soaked it up with some rags, topped the oil up with the idea of limping it home. Turned it on, she fires up, then starts revving uncontrollably. Well above the redline.

    Flick the key off, and she keeps going, revving as high as anything. Lucky for me it was a manual! Throw it in 5th, stand on the brakes and drop the clutch. She shut off. Last time that car ever ran :'(

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    Like it. Had an old swb cruiser put a B series diesel(4cyl) in it, had a mech injector pump pull cable to shut off fuel. In my case cable broke and had to stall her. Fun times..
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    @Cuppa, you must have a sixth sense or something.
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    I take no credit @4bye4, t'was my mates - both old school diesel heads.

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    @Cuppa

    How did you go with yours ? Fitted yet? Operating? Catching much ?

    I just fitted mine quickly on Friday before a quick run up to the high country with Mudski. Today I finished it properly with a bracket on the firewall.
    I also found a grommet which perfectly the drain hose and sends it into the passenger front wheel arch tucked away for draining purposes.

    I've done just under 600km after fitting and it has caught not a hell of a lot. Incoming hose is a little bit misty on the inside but thats about it.

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    Don't know how long that hose will last with stones rocks and mud being thrown it's way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hodge View Post
    @Cuppa

    How did you go with yours ? Fitted yet? Operating? Catching much ?

    I just fitted mine quickly on Friday before a quick run up to the high country with Mudski. Today I finished it properly with a bracket on the firewall.
    I also found a grommet which perfectly the drain hose and sends it into the passenger front wheel arch tucked away for draining purposes.

    I've done just under 600km after fitting and it has caught not a hell of a lot. Incoming hose is a little bit misty on the inside but thats about it.
    Neat job! I'm still waiting for the hose reducers to arrive, so have only bolted the can into place. I just ran the collection hose over the wheel arch & down to the bottom corner of the radiator. Not as aesthetically pleasing as yours but easy to see & access & no holes cut. I did 'chicken out' & ended up buying a genuine Provent filter element. Fits into the Provent copy can ok. I thought it would just be a stainless mesh with a fabric surround, but not so. The fabric filter material has no stainless mesh inside it & is quite thick.

    Was talking to jack this morning, he's going to fit one too & plans to use the screw in hose reducers which will look really neat, but not sure how they would be for long distances on corrugations. He is getting a genuine Provent can, possible that the plastic may be better quality than mine & that it will hold the tapered thread better??? If his hold in ok I may yet copy him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Throbbinhood View Post
    Don't know how long that hose will last with stones rocks and mud being thrown it's way?
    Did think about that.
    I think It should be fine. I used pretty much identical setup on my 3L. It's been on the car for nearly 5 years now and it's copped everything from the wheel and not had issues.

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