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    My current issues seem minor to others but I need to vent...

    Trying to organise doors and windows for the extension. In a nutshell, what the law states and what to building inspector is telling us we have to do is two different things and he's pretty much said he has the final word. But what he wants is unreasonable and damn impossible to achieve. E.g. we have a large 3plus metre bi bold door which folds to outside when you open it. This inspector says me must have a fire resistant fly screen fitted to the outside of the door frame. Any half smart person would know this is impossible to achieve, but this guy says its how it has to be. There is other issues he's brought up with the windows but this is so fecking stupid....

    So we are at a stalemate here. If we go by the book, he won't pass it. Guess we have to bring VCAT or someone in now. More shit to deal with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winnie View Post
    Bugger mate sorry to hear. Are you out of work or looking for a change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudski View Post
    My current issues seem minor to others but I need to vent...

    Trying to organise doors and windows for the extension. In a nutshell, what the law states and what to building inspector is telling us we have to do is two different things and he's pretty much said he has the final word. But what he wants is unreasonable and damn impossible to achieve. E.g. we have a large 3plus metre bi bold door which folds to outside when you open it. This inspector says me must have a fire resistant fly screen fitted to the outside of the door frame. Any half smart person would know this is impossible to achieve, but this guy says its how it has to be. There is other issues he's brought up with the windows but this is so fecking stupid....

    So we are at a stalemate here. If we go by the book, he won't pass it. Guess we have to bring VCAT or someone in now. More shit to deal with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taslucas View Post
    Late last year I moved from a full-time supervisor roll to a casual trade assistant position to start a change of career. First time I'd been casual in about 18 years. 4 months later covid struck and I was out on my arse... Along with wave after wave of people in the same situation looking for the same jobs. I keep getting told I'm exactly what they're looking for or I was right up there.
    For one position I was even told I interviewed better than the other bloke.
    It's hard to remain positive.


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    I get it mate, been fighting through an apprenticeship for the last 3 years and yeah I'm only two years through it. Just had to put it on hold again unfortunately due to the missus being made redundant but it is what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mudski View Post
    My current issues seem minor to others but I need to vent...

    Trying to organise doors and windows for the extension. In a nutshell, what the law states and what to building inspector is telling us we have to do is two different things and he's pretty much said he has the final word. But what he wants is unreasonable and damn impossible to achieve. E.g. we have a large 3plus metre bi bold door which folds to outside when you open it. This inspector says me must have a fire resistant fly screen fitted to the outside of the door frame. Any half smart person would know this is impossible to achieve, but this guy says its how it has to be. There is other issues he's brought up with the windows but this is so fecking stupid....

    So we are at a stalemate here. If we go by the book, he won't pass it. Guess we have to bring VCAT or someone in now. More shit to deal with.
    Does that mean you legally have to have a fly screen?? I don't know anything about that, but I'd be very surprised if that was the case. Would he pass it if you had no flyscreen at all?

    I always thought flyscreens were an accessory item.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10G View Post
    Does that mean you legally have to have a fly screen?? I don't know anything about that, but I'd be very surprised if that was the case. Would he pass it if you had no flyscreen at all?

    I always thought flyscreens were an accessory item.
    I "think" it has something to do with regulations handed down since the black Saturday.
    Fire prone areas have some kind of a requirement when it comes to doors etc ...
    This is from memory after speaking to a bloke about it living up in Kinglake a while ago ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hodge View Post
    I "think" it has something to do with regulations handed down since the black Saturday.
    Fire prone areas have some kind of a requirement when it comes to doors etc ...
    This is from memory after speaking to a bloke about it living up in Kinglake a while ago ...


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    Yeah, I don't doubt you Hodge, but surely a weatherproof lockable, fireproof door would be all that's required. Is the thinking that a fireproof fly wire door will stop your real door from burning down? Someone's wrong somewhere.

    What if you don't want a fly wire door, are you asked to fit one? Bloody little Hitlers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10G View Post
    Does that mean you legally have to have a fly screen?? I don't know anything about that, but I'd be very surprised if that was the case. Would he pass it if you had no flyscreen at all?

    I always thought flyscreens were an accessory item.
    Yes. And they must be fitted externally. As Hodge has said, after Black Saturday, a lot of rules and regs were revisited and changed. So after many hours today of calling and reading (lucky its a quiet morning at work) I have found out that the window company mistakenly gave us the old rule sheet, prior to 2009, ugh. Slightly different rules. So yep we have to externally fit a fly screen to the outside.
    This brings up a whole new set of issues.
    1. The bi-fold will have to be made to fold inside, not outside.
    2. The flyscreens conventionally used on bi-folds, concertina on themselves when you open it. Not like the usual framed screen that slides. Issue here, is the concertina screens are NOT BAL 12.5 rated as they are made from fibreglass. The screens must be made from stainless or aluminum.

    So a framed screen looks to be our only choice. Which I definitely do NOT want. It will be pointless off having bi folds then.

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    Easy mate install for inspection then remove

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    Even easier, don't install one, then install what you want post inspection. That's the tack I'd take.
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