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Thread: Buying a lifted GU Patrol from a dealership, ride height question

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    I thought, it has always has been 75mm, 50 suspension and 25 tyres.
    Snippet from link below. Link below has more scenarios. 50mm tyres without lift, etc...

    Also, forget your placards, mod plates, engineering etc... It is widely known that if a 4x4 looks too high, tyres too big etc to a Vic cop, he will send you to the pits anyway. You can throw what ever mod plates you want at them. They like to exercise their "Right to question" powers. Especially during their nets a blitzes. And then you go through the process...

    Also the revenue grabbers have now highly shifted their attention to weights more so than lifts etc... Nearly all blitzes now include portable scales. And with our faithful Patrols, we all know thats not very hard to exceed.


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    You found it. Thanks. I couldn't remember where this info was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudski View Post
    You found it. Thanks. I couldn't remember where this info was.
    That's the vicroads one ....
    I remember you linking a much more broader pdf a while ago which was a national one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hodge View Post
    I thought, it has always has been 75mm, 50 suspension and 25 tyres.
    Snippet from link below. Link below has more scenarios. 50mm tyres without lift, etc...

    Also, forget your placards, mod plates, engineering etc... It is widely known that if a 4x4 looks too high, tyres too big etc to a Vic cop, he will send you to the pits anyway. You can throw what ever mod plates you want at them. They like to exercise their "Right to question" powers. Especially during their nets a blitzes. And then you go through the process...

    Also the revenue grabbers have now highly shifted their attention to weights more so than lifts etc... Nearly all blitzes now include portable scales. And with our faithful Patrols, we all know thats not very hard to exceed.


    https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/-/me...319217ECDEDEB1


    Yep and SA's rules are different. Must not exceed 50mm overall. Hense check with your local authorities.
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    If all this tells us anything though it's that if you have anything over 2in lift overall you may have issues with being defected as you tour around Australia (if you ever intended too). As Hodge suggests, even if it's technically legal in your state/mod plated it might just make your life difficult.
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    Regardless of whether you are in a 50mm 'overall' or 75mm 'combination' State only suspension lifts up to 50mm are legal under ADR/VSS (combo States allow max of 50mm suspension plus another 25 in body or tyre not 75 in suspension only) so 75mm/3 inch lift as per the OP is non compliant unless plated or has sagged to under 50mm static lift.

    Not all states fully adopt VSS (which they are apparently allowed to do as long as their standards are tighter), the ongoing poo fight in Qld being an example and it can take many months even years for the individual States to adopt changes, WA being one of the slowest.

    Does anyone know if there is an 'overall' ride height of a Patrol and have factory spec on where it is calculated from?
    I believe there is a spec for the distance from the centre of the axles to the guard sometimes quoted (Tyre size + Axle to Guard = overall lift) but some threads have run to many pages on the subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the evil twin View Post

    Does anyone know if there is an 'overall' ride height of a Patrol and have factory spec on where it is calculated from?
    I believe there is a spec for the distance from the centre of the axles to the guard sometimes quoted (Tyre size + Axle to Guard = overall lift) but some threads have run to many pages on the subject.
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    Thats excellent Mark, I will have a look at where mine is sitting as a guide for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the evil twin View Post
    Does anyone know if there is an 'overall' ride height of a Patrol and have factory spec on where it is calculated from?
    I believe there is a spec for the distance from the centre of the axles to the guard sometimes quoted (Tyre size + Axle to Guard = overall lift) but some threads have run to many pages on the subject.
    The million dollar question. Anecdotally I found out today that SA use "original factory ride height" and they measure from the ground to the top of the roof. I can't find and haven't been advised of any "official" document that has these ride heights recorded. I've used the specifications section of carsales in the past and it's normally pretty accurate. Has the height of a 2007 GU patrol at 1855mm.

    Edit:I suppose Nissan could tell you the official original factory height?
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    It's a roll of the dice I guess. Everything on the car has checked out OK, and no issues were raised regarding the tyre and ride height combination (despite me requesting consideration to the legal spec). Dealership is obviously keen to sell anything regardless of the law, but I feel better having it inspected by a neutral third party.

    What is the cost of an engineering certification for this kind of thing, if there is an issue down the track?

    Anyone have any anecdotes about the frequency of 4wds being stickered due to ride height? Seems fairly uncommon.

    Thanks for all your input everyone.

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