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    Quote Originally Posted by mudski View Post
    Rear disc conversion Ian. Although less surface contact area using disc over drum, but you have more clamping power on a disc and less the chance of brake fade due to heat.
    I find that my front brakes will over ride the rear how would I be able to amp up the rears ... When I brake in the wet the the front locks up and the rears are still running free !! (I have rear disk )


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    Quote Originally Posted by timbar View Post
    I find that my front brakes will over ride the rear how would I be able to amp up the rears ... When I brake in the wet the the front locks up and the rears are still running free !! (I have rear disk )


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    Assuming the calipers arent seized and the brake fluid is good etc etc.
    The bias valve affects the rear brakes. If the Patrol has been lifted this will affect how the bias valve works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudski View Post
    Assuming the calipers arent seized and the brake fluid is good etc etc.
    The bias valve affects the rear brakes. If the Patrol has been lifted this will affect how the bias valve works.

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    Can the bias valve be adjusted to suit the lift ??



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    Quote Originally Posted by timbar View Post
    Can the bias valve be adjusted to suit the lift ??



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    You'll need a extended bias bracket.
    It pretty much moves the valve the same amount of the lift, so it's back in the original position.

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    trying to get well enough to get to Georges so he can service my Auto.
    This has been going on for a couple of months now, might feel better
    when the weather picks up, Geurge has been very flexible about it, LOL
    04 ST 3lt auto, not enough Mods to keep me happy, but getting there

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    Quote Originally Posted by jay see View Post
    You'll need a extended bias bracket.
    It pretty much moves the valve the same amount of the lift, so it's back in the original position.

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    Easy enough to make one. You just need to lift the anchor point of the diff upwards to the same height as the lift is. Or there abouts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuppa View Post
    When I bought my Patrol I found the brakes to be very spongy & complained to the car yard I bought it from. They told me to take it to my local Nissan dealership to get fixed at no cost to me. Got it back from the dealer’s workshop who told me they had changed the fluid & bled them (they had the brake fluid was a different colour). Problem was that the brakes felt no different at all.
    I complained & the workshop manager assured me that this was normal for Patrol brakes. Thinking he was treating me as a dumb car owner who knew nothing I made it clear that I did not believe that any properly working brakes could feel so bad. He assurred me again that they were normal & added that Nissan deliberately design them like this to ensure that owners are less likely to lock the brakes accidentally in off road conditions! Convinced he was spinning me a line I continued to complain, whereupon he led me to a customer’s almost new ST wagon & invited me to sit in the driver seat & test the brake pedal for myself. It felt exactly like mine - like if you press hard enough the pedal could touch the floor. In reality the brakes would lock before you got to that point. Nevertheless the brakes inspired no confidence whatsoever. Different pads & rotors on the front gave a noticeable improvement. (Anyone know if there are any performance shoes available for the rear drums?).
    Been thinking about your problem then it dawned on me you have two things going against you.
    First is your weight, youll never stop in the same distance as a wagon.
    And second is the drums on the rear, but mainly the weight.
    Id be looking around for a disc to disc rear end then do what @nissannewby said
    with the brake proportioning valve. but IMHO you'll never stop like a wagon.
    You will get it to stop safely I feel lol
    04 ST 3lt auto, not enough Mods to keep me happy, but getting there

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    @threedogs I may have been misunderstood. My brakes stop me reasonably well & safely. Of course any improvement is welcome but I’m not about to spend big bickies to achieve it. The issue I described was about the ‘feel’ of the brakes, & was also prior to my camper conversion with an empty pod, so a fair bit less weight at that time. It was a shock experiencing Patrol brakes after the Troopy. Of course little has changed since then other than the replacement front discs & pads do pull me up quicker, still with little feel compared to many other vehicles, but I have become accustomed to them. I can lock up the wheels if I want to. Amazingly the brakes in stock form, (except for an adjustment of the front rear bias) & with the camper conversion completed & fully stocked as for a trip (ie max weight) the brakes exceeded the specified minimum system pressure & managed the required stopping distances in the engineer’s dynamic braking tests. They are better than that now. One day I’ll fit braided lines as I expect that will improve feel, but there are a number of other priorities first.

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