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    Nice!
    Presumably for hardcore users?
    Have never seen one in real life. Are they a lot bigger/heavier than low mount Warns? What sort of pulling power are they rated at & what sort of amps would they pull from a battery on 'full noise'?
    If high mount means they somehow sit on top of the bullbar how so to avoid blocking airflow to the radiator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD View Post
    Looking awesome mate. Who told you the Ishkra motor was slow? I'm not sure that is accurate to be honest. The power is delivered differently , they don't suffer load as bad as the warn or bow to be honest and so don't slow down so much. Big winching on big hills the Ishkra will be king mate. Short snatch winching you might come our on top but it's seconds not minutes.

    They are wound differently. If I had to choose and was running 12v then my.money would go on an Ishkra 100%

    MB and Matty both have an Ishkra.

    Well proven solid performer that is almost impossible to kill.
    Maybe my interpretation of what their slow is, is obviously way off the mark then Darren. Is was looking at getting maybe the Bow2 motor. But I’m in no rush so I have time to decide.


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    Ishkra for the win mate. 100% cheaper and a better option for your usage IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuppa View Post
    Nice!
    Presumably for hardcore users?
    Have never seen one in real life. Are they a lot bigger/heavier than low mount Warns? What sort of pulling power are they rated at & what sort of amps would they pull from a battery on 'full noise'?
    If high mount means they somehow sit on top of the bullbar how so to avoid blocking airflow to the radiator?
    High mount refers to the motor being mounted above the drum and driven by gears. Because of the design they are a lot bigger and a bit heavier than a standard low mount winch, this makes them much harder to fit to a bar too. Pic attached of how they look mounted. They do restrict a bit of airflow to the radiator for sure.
    From standard Warn rate them at 8000lbs and always recommend a double line pull, but we are putting bigger motors and other mods to strengthen them up and give much more power.
    Not sure what sort of current they would draw, all depends on which motor is used but they use the same style motor as is found on low mount winches.



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    I've just done a little research Mudski, it looks like the Roadrunner bullet motors are rated as the best value motors at the moment.

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    Nice pic lol. Yeah its a bit funny the warn M8274 (high mount) the numbers refer to 8 (8000 pounds) 2 (two way - in and crappy freespool lol) and 74 year it was released. Originally came out with a 2.7HP motor then upgraded to a 4.6 HP but still rated at 8000 pounds although most put motors on at least 6HP along with other mod to strengthen so realistically capacity would be much greater.

    Winch looks awesome BTW Markie time to sink the bugger and give a good test lol. . Once we're allowed out again damit. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winnie View Post
    High mount refers to the motor being mounted above the drum and driven by gears. Because of the design they are a lot bigger and a bit heavier than a standard low mount winch, this makes them much harder to fit to a bar too. Pic attached of how they look mounted. They do restrict a bit of airflow to the radiator for sure.
    From standard Warn rate them at 8000lbs and always recommend a double line pull, but we are putting bigger motors and other mods to strengthen them up and give much more power.
    Not sure what sort of current they would draw, all depends on which motor is used but they use the same style motor as is found on low mount winches.
    Thanks Winnie, I learned something there. So would I be right in thinking that the main attraction is their ability to be beefed up beyond standard? ie. Are they a better thing than the higher rated low mounts? I guess being more accessible seems is a bonus too..... & they do look pretty tough. Are they still sold new?

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    Yep still sold new and pretty much haven't changed since when they came out in 1974. Big advantages are external brake which is stronger but doesn't generate heat in the drum which can affect synthetic rope also having direct drive gearing as opposed to compact planetary style in a lowmount gives less losses in power and much stronger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winnie View Post
    I've just done a little research Mudski, it looks like the Roadrunner bullet motors are rated as the best value motors at the moment.

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    Where did you read that mate? Was it based on price? Output? Longevity? Low voltage performance, load speed,??

    So.many variables. I reckon when the going gets tough anything with a 6hp or better in a himount will get it done.

    @mudski you will find your splitting hair for speed in any of the high output up motors. If you want fast them go 24v . If you staying 12v then the Iskra for $380 is a bargain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD View Post

    @mudski you will find your splitting hair for speed in any of the high output up motors. If you want fast them go 24v . If you staying 12v then the Iskra for $380 is a bargain.
    It was only because of what I was told Darren, or my interpretation. I took it that the Iskra was quite slow compared to the others. Speed is not really a deciding factor for me now I know there's f.a speed difference. Whats the HP of the Iskra anyway. Only info I can find is that its a 1.6kw motor. From my quick findings this equates to around 2.2HP. Doesn't seem right.

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