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    Two stroke oil in fuel

    Hi Guys
    I've been reading about putting 2stroke oil in your diesel .
    What is the mix required ie how much oil per tank ?

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    Yep you heard right I use Castrol 2T whenever I have a long trip.
    I tip the full bottle in for 95ltrs of diesel, Makes the motor a tad quieter as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by threedogs View Post
    Yep you heard right I use Castrol 2T whenever I have a long trip.
    I tip the full bottle in for 95ltrs of diesel, Makes the motor a tad quieter as well
    I also have used this process for over 20 yrs and it does make the engine quieter. The dose rate I used is half what you are using though. Not sure if the extra concentration is of benefit or simply wasted. I also used the mineral based oil, not synthetic - simply due to recommendation, and its a whole lot cheaper as well. I tend to buy it in 4L bottles and dispense as required - also reduces cost, but can be a pain for longer trips.

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    @PBBIZ2 Id probable divide that between my Aux[75] and Main[95]
    so more a 60/40 ratio
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    Been using that exact one for little while now. Definitely makes the motor run quieter and smoother... But I don't know whether it makes any difference performance or fuel efficiency wise.
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    Old school diesel mechanic near here recommends 1:1000 mineral auto transmission fluid.

    Compliments fuel that has been modified for modern engines and helps with the performance a small amount.

    Haven't found a diesel mechanic yet who endorses 2 stroke, and I keep asking.

    BUT if you are happy that is what's important, this is just my "research" and its not backed up by any proof.

    Edit: I have tried the 2 stroke in 2 vehicles and many litres, at 5 cents a litre extra I started asking questions as I couldn't sense any "improvement".
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    Quote Originally Posted by macca View Post
    Old school diesel mechanic near here recommends 1:1000 mineral auto transmission fluid.

    Compliments fuel that has been modified for modern engines and helps with the performance a small amount.

    Haven't found a diesel mechanic yet who endorses 2 stroke, and I keep asking.

    BUT if you are happy that is what's important, this is just my "research" and its not backed up by any proof.

    Edit: I have tried the 2 stroke in 2 vehicles and many litres, at 5 cents a litre extra I started asking questions as I couldn't sense any "improvement".
    Macca, I would really doubt 1 litre in 1000liters would make much of a difference? Do you mean 1 in 100? I have heard the auto trans fluid story also, but can't remember the ratio, or if it was even stated. I recall 1:200 for mineral 2 stroke. I found it took about 1/4 of a tank to start doing whatever it is supposed to be doing internally, then the engine, a toyota 2H, Mercedes 300GD and my 2.8 Td patrol all 'seemed' to have less of a 'clack' or the pitch had softened a bit. For me, it makes the engine run quieter. I have only got 400 Kilometers on the new chev, so can't really tell on this motor - its still too new and sounds are all different. Regards cost, yes any additive starts to add the cost/klm. I do run Moreys fuel additive which is a less smoke formulation, again unsure if there is a benefit yet on this engine, but on the 2.8TD that thing running Moreys and 2 stroke was just about smokeless and for an overweight 2.8 it went well and was pushed hard at times on the open road. Even under hard acceleration there was no visible 'plume' behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PBBIZ2 View Post
    Macca, I would really doubt 1 litre in 1000liters would make much of a difference? Do you mean 1 in 100? I have heard the auto trans fluid story also, but can't remember the ratio, or if it was even stated. I recall 1:200 for mineral 2 stroke. I found it took about 1/4 of a tank to start doing whatever it is supposed to be doing internally, then the engine, a toyota 2H, Mercedes 300GD and my 2.8 Td patrol all 'seemed' to have less of a 'clack' or the pitch had softened a bit. For me, it makes the engine run quieter. I have only got 400 Kilometers on the new chev, so can't really tell on this motor - its still too new and sounds are all different. Regards cost, yes any additive starts to add the cost/klm. I do run Moreys fuel additive which is a less smoke formulation, again unsure if there is a benefit yet on this engine, but on the 2.8TD that thing running Moreys and 2 stroke was just about smokeless and for an overweight 2.8 it went well and was pushed hard at times on the open road. Even under hard acceleration there was no visible 'plume' behind.
    Yes 1:1000, I rang him to make sure it was right, he also said don't over dose it.
    I had a cleaner additive that also was 1:1000. Can not remember brand but label said treats 1000 litres.
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    Quote Originally Posted by macca View Post
    Yes 1:1000, I rang him to make sure it was right, he also said don't over dose it.
    I had a cleaner additive that also was 1:1000. Can not remember brand but label said treats 1000 litres.
    Well, learn something everyday! Must have a hell of an effect at that ratio. Did he mention why you should not 'over dose'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PBBIZ2 View Post
    Well, learn something everyday! Must have a hell of an effect at that ratio. Did he mention why you should not 'over dose'?
    No he didn't, he was talking about something that had been removed from Diesel and the ATF replaces it. So 80ml in an 80 Litre fill is all that was needed.

    Also talking fuel he said BP was the best diesel on sale now, I had been using Caltex. He recommended BP as it had additives that are beneficial and we have had a marked improvement in fuel economy.

    We recently bought Shell, our last 2 tanks full fuel economy went from 15.54 (BP) to 22.66 Litres per 100 Kilometers (all highway), and we blew clouds of black smoke even at idle. So what had they added? We assume it was that servo only, be bad for Shell if that fuel was at all their outlets.

    That other product was Diesel Power - Diesel Fuel Additive, got it at SuperCheap Autos.
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