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    Problem is too that I also need to put another permit in with these carnts because we want to build a retaining wall that will be some 6ft high so we can widen our parking area. Plus they have put up our rates by about $150 a quarter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MB View Post
    Was getting put through the ringer Mark for our shed permits many years ago with same council too mate. Wasn’t until my pestering for the urgent need to catch additional bushfire fighting water that they came to the party real quick. Follow up every phone call with an email “As discussed” !!



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    The retaining wall should be capable of being wrapped up in the same permit if it is aligned work, even if it means re-submitting the paperwork with it in the same package, or are they carving the wall out for special attention? They may seperate it because compliance of a civil/structural nature may be handled differently?

    Regards rates, I feel your pain. Ours went up as well, and the council valuation is crazy on our property - like 600K more than what we could get if we sold it - I am going to challenge mine for sure on that basis as council costs just cannot be left to run up without control and expect the rate payer to pick up the bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeBee View Post
    The retaining wall should be capable of being wrapped up in the same permit if it is aligned work, even if it means re-submitting the paperwork with it in the same package, or are they carving the wall out for special attention? They may seperate it because compliance of a civil/structural nature may be handled differently?

    Regards rates, I feel your pain. Ours went up as well, and the council valuation is crazy on our property - like 600K more than what we could get if we sold it - I am going to challenge mine for sure on that basis as council costs just cannot be left to run up without control and expect the rate payer to pick up the bill
    Im going to do a separate permit for the wall. Stuffed if Im waiting 8-12 months for the wall. I need progress in my life. Lol. Not a stale bottle of piss like the council have given me.

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    We had a massive shit fight with council when we built our place over permits. Long story short, we went to the MBA and got permits for the shed, pergola and retraining wall. No issues, no council involvement.
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    Anyone know why pictures aren't working with tapa lately? Been bloody anoying . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudski View Post
    Im going to do a separate permit for the wall. Stuffed if Im waiting 8-12 months for the wall. I need progress in my life. Lol. Not a stale bottle of piss like the council have given me.
    So talking with the draftsman this arvo, its going to be cheaper and easier if I do the wall and extension as one. So I'm gonna have to wait. Ah well. Time to focus my priorities on something else on the house. Coz there not a lot I need to do... Haha!
    I might concentrate on the rumpus down stairs maybe. Or start on the vegie patch for the backyard. Which is a task in itself...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack View Post
    We had a massive shit fight with council when we built our place over permits. Long story short, we went to the MBA and got permits for the shed, pergola and retraining wall. No issues, no council involvement.
    Anyone needing a building permit should find a private Building Surveyor and not deal with council building depts. Building Regulations in Victoria allow building permits to be issued by all Building Surveyors with relevant qualifications ("Building Surveyor - Limited" registration for low rise residential developments, "Building Surveyor - Unlimited" registration for large scale commercial/industrial developments).

    You will normally get better service from the private guys (they're running a business so will work for paying clients, not public servants where there's no motivation to provide service). You'll have faster turnaround but you'll pay more for it too.

    Of course there will be red tape, you're dealing in a highly regulated industry when it comes to building approvals. But you should get clear advice on what is required and times involved.

    In Victoria, when a private Building Surveyor issues a building permit, they send a copy of the issued building permit and all approved design documents to council which they are obliged to keep in archives until that building is demolished. Other states work in similar yet slightly different manners.

    Yellow Pages Building Surveyors in your area and give them a call. Give council a miss.

    Different for town planning issues though. You can use private town planning consultants but only council can issue planning permits. A private Building Surveyor will check to see if any planning issues need to be dealt with before building permits can be issued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rossco View Post
    Anyone know why pictures aren't working with tapa lately? Been bloody anoying . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasnart View Post
    Anyone needing a building permit should find a private Building Surveyor and not deal with council building depts. Building Regulations in Victoria allow building permits to be issued by all Building Surveyors with relevant qualifications ("Building Surveyor - Limited" registration for low rise residential developments, "Building Surveyor - Unlimited" registration for large scale commercial/industrial developments).

    You will normally get better service from the private guys (they're running a business so will work for paying clients, not public servants where there's no motivation to provide service). You'll have faster turnaround but you'll pay more for it too.

    Of course there will be red tape, you're dealing in a highly regulated industry when it comes to building approvals. But you should get clear advice on what is required and times involved.

    In Victoria, when a private Building Surveyor issues a building permit, they send a copy of the issued building permit and all approved design documents to council which they are obliged to keep in archives until that building is demolished. Other states work in similar yet slightly different manners.

    Yellow Pages Building Surveyors in your area and give them a call. Give council a miss.

    Different for town planning issues though. You can use private town planning consultants but only council can issue planning permits. A private Building Surveyor will check to see if any planning issues need to be dealt with before building permits can be issued.
    Yeah we are using a private guy, but it has to go by the council first regardless. I have learnt today, even though we are on a battleaxe block, meaning the front of my house faces the back of someone elses, council requires a full town planning permit as its facing the front of the block. So it is what it is. Onwards and upwards.

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