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13th February 2021, 04:07 PM
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Thoughts on refurbing my trailer...
I had this trailer custom made probably 20 years ago. 4ft wide and 7ft long with 18inch high sides. So I could put my trial bike in the trailer long ways and my swag and other gear easily next to the bike.
Its served me well over the years, but it needs some serious love. The wheels and tyres are original. I doubt they will last another year though. As now its main use it lately is for firewood. So my intentions are to undersling the axle to give a little more height, buy new rims and LT tyres, larger also the whats on there, this might be hard to work out though. I will have to put new hubs on and maybe a new axle depending on the bearing combination it has matches the new hubs. Then make a cage for it, only something maybe 600mm high though.
Which brings me to my questions.
Should I replace the spring packs with something to take more load? What would a cube of split firewood weigh? As it stands the trailer can comfortably fit a cube of split wood, fill to the brim would be not a lot more, maybe 1.2 cm2. So with the cage it might be somewhere in between 1.5 and 2 cubic metres.
The current springs are 45 x 6mm, 6 leaf slipper springs. From a quick eBay search they would be rated circa 500-600kg. The ATM of the trailer is 750kg, the Axle Group load carrying capacity is 1000KG, so I'm assuming this means the trailer is capable of carrying 1000kg, but the springs are not.
I am also thinking of running an extra length of RHS from the end of the draw bar and down the centre of the trailer to provide some extra strength. Not sure if this will be necessary though.
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Last edited by mudski; 13th February 2021 at 04:13 PM.
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13th February 2021 04:07 PM
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13th February 2021, 04:15 PM
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Patrol God
Looking at prices of a good quality trailers these days. I would refurb. The market has so much Chinese junk now as well. I'm sure you could refurb it to your expectations rather than compromise for a ready built quality unit or pay good money for something custom.
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13th February 2021, 04:23 PM
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I would sell it and buy a tandem trailer with Brakes. Plenty for sale second hand. Even buying something that needs work will probably still save you a bit.
As it stands you are keeping....... which bit??
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13th February 2021, 04:26 PM
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More Chassis, 6" Draw Bar. Electric brakes. Fresh tyres.
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Originally Posted by
Rogue Dung Beetle
Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
The only good thing about an 80 series is..... the front end?? Wrong!!, the Engine?? Wrong!! the Full Time 4WD system?? Wrong!! Its the NissanPatrol.com.au stubby holder fitted over the transfer lever.
WARNING: Towballs used for recoveries can, and do kill people and damage property.
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13th February 2021, 04:47 PM
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If you do end up going the new axle / spring path check out Huntsman down Dandenong way. Do whatever track want could even go braked if you wanted, pretty reasonably $$ to. .
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13th February 2021, 06:29 PM
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Just keep in mind you can't legally tow over 750kg without brakes on the trailer to.
I wouldn't be loading a single axle much over 1 ton.
Depending if you stacked the wood nicely or just thrown in and also type of wood makes a huge difference to weight. 2 cubes was be approx 2ton in most woods. Most people who sell by the cube are usually not a proper cubic metre of wood either. Think they are meant to legally sell it by weight now.
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13th February 2021, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by
MudRunnerTD
I would sell it and buy a tandem trailer with Brakes. Plenty for sale second hand. Even buying something that needs work will probably still save you a bit.
As it stands you are keeping....... which bit??
As it stands. The body of the trailer. Springs I may keep or upgrade to a slightly heavier setup and I may need to change the axle as I will have to change the hubs. I don't want to sell and buy a tandem trailer to be honest. The trailer size is perfect for me and it tows really well.
Originally Posted by
MudRunnerTD
More Chassis, 6" Draw Bar. Electric brakes. Fresh tyres.
Yeah the draw bar could be a little longer I think. Not sold on Electric brakes, just yet, but for the little extra $$$ it will cost, I may go down that path, then if I do I would have to seriously think about beefing up the chassis. Definately new rims and tyres, size I haven't figured out yet.
Originally Posted by
Rossco
If you do end up going the new axle / spring path check out Huntsman down Dandenong way. Do whatever track want could even go braked if you wanted, pretty reasonably $$ to. .
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Yeah I've bought a lot from them in the past, and they are close'ish to work.
Originally Posted by
matfew
Just keep in mind you can't legally tow over 750kg without brakes on the trailer to.
This I did not know. Thank you.
Originally Posted by
matfew
I wouldn't be loading a single axle much over 1 ton.
Depending if you stacked the wood nicely or just thrown in and also type of wood makes a huge difference to weight. 2 cubes was be approx 2ton in most woods. Most people who sell by the cube are usually not a proper cubic metre of wood either. Think they are meant to legally sell it by weight now.
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Thank you everyone for your input. I have some thinking to do...
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14th February 2021, 11:53 AM
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I just went through a bit of an upgrade myself and used Huntsman mob as you can’t beat their pricing.
Their warehouse packing guys tho need a good kick up the arse...lol
Ordered 2x 6 leaf springs and got 7 leaf...all good easy fix. Also ordered 4 x U bolts and washers and nuts and got 12 of each and a mystery bag of different bolts and nuts...beauty
Anyway, this was the state of of my good bolts and brackets. Both springs lost centre bolt and kept moving around...oops
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14th February 2021, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by
mudski
As it stands. The body of the trailer. Springs I may keep or upgrade to a slightly heavier setup and I may need to change the axle as I will have to change the hubs. I don't want to sell and buy a tandem trailer to be honest. The trailer size is perfect for me and it tows really well.
Yeah the draw bar could be a little longer I think. Not sold on Electric brakes, just yet, but for the little extra $$$ it will cost, I may go down that path, then if I do I would have to seriously think about beefing up the chassis. Definately new rims and tyres, size I haven't figured out yet.
Yeah I've bought a lot from them in the past, and they are close'ish to work.
This I did not know. Thank you.
Thank you everyone for your input. I have some thinking to do...
Sorry mate, you are literally keeping the tub! Madness. Everything else is under size for your new intended use. Sell it to someone that needs a nice 7x4. Buy a tandem 7x4 or better an 8x5 with the springs, axles, brakes, rims, tyres, chassis, drawer bar you need now. That is the list of changes you are looking to make mate! Read about my Grand Dad's Axe again mate. Never look back.
Its a Nissan! =====> Its a Keeper!! ....... Got a TD42 in it BONUS!!
....... I'm a lucky bugger! I've got 2 of em!
Check out my Toy -->
MudRunnerTD's GQ From the Ground Up
Originally Posted by
Rogue Dung Beetle
Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
The only good thing about an 80 series is..... the front end?? Wrong!!, the Engine?? Wrong!! the Full Time 4WD system?? Wrong!! Its the NissanPatrol.com.au stubby holder fitted over the transfer lever.
WARNING: Towballs used for recoveries can, and do kill people and damage property.
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14th February 2021, 07:02 PM
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i'm with mudrunner TD . the changes you are talking about may end up costing close to half that of a new trailer . the body of the trailer does not look all that strong . a single axle trailer with brakes the same size generally will have an atm of at least 1450kg . and for carrying wood , i think this would be a minimum , as 1 tonne ( + trailer weight ) could fit without gates . you can also get single axle trailers that size that will take heavier loads . i'm in qld and there are manufactures here that advertise on the net ( i would think there would be a few down your way too ) all size and types of configerations and atm's and many offer specials ( discounts ) at times . worth the time to search i recon . just sort yours out enough to sell and put the money towards a new or second hand one that suits your use .
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