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    I think it explains less than whatís been discussed already because it doesnít include the important info of the towball mass eating into the GVM of the tug.. thatís where most get caught out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasnart View Post
    Yes agree tower braces compulsory!
    And or buy a modern age bullshit TC 3,500kg rated twin cab ute with 1,000kg of Bull Mastiff crap hanging as far back on its tray as possible fully airborne over a big red dune or river climb out!

    Disclaimer: Best to full chassis brace a plastic type ute with a Patrol chassis slip joint over its top :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MB View Post
    And or buy a modern age bullshit TC 3,500kg rated twin cab ute with 1,000kg of Bull Mastiff crap hanging as far back on its tray as possible fully airborne over a big red dune or river climb out!

    Disclaimer: Best to full chassis brace a plastic type ute with a Patrol chassis slip joint over its top :-)
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    Reminds me of this article from Ron couple of years ago....great read

    https://www.whichcar.com.au/reviews/bent-utes

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    Quote Originally Posted by jff45 View Post
    I think it explains less than whatís been discussed already because it doesnít include the important info of the towball mass eating into the GVM of the tug.. thatís where most get caught out.
    Agreed it doesnít cover towball weight in the GVM but thatís covered on the sticker on the barn door. My GVM isnít reduced because my towball weight is right on 200kg.

    GVM is only reduced when it exceeds 200kg as stated on the sticker and owners manual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack View Post
    Agreed it doesnít cover towball weight in the GVM but thatís covered on the sticker on the barn door. My GVM isnít reduced because my towball weight is right on 200kg.

    GVM is only reduced when it exceeds 200kg as stated on the sticker and owners manual.
    GVM is reduced by whatever weight you put on the towball. If you have 200 kg on the towball, thatís 200 kg lost from your payload.
    As I said earlier, if you place a 200 kg motorbike on your towball itís the same as if you put it on your roof rack.
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    Shit! I just hook up me van and tow? What is the problem???


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    Quote Originally Posted by jff45 View Post
    GVM is reduced by whatever weight you put on the towball. If you have 200 kg on the towball, that’s 200 kg lost from your payload.
    As I said earlier, if you place a 200 kg motorbike on your towball it’s the same as if you put it on your roof rack.
    Not interested in getting into an argument, it was explained to me as follows for the Patrol:

    200kg or less towball weight does not effect GVM
    250kg or less towball weight less 150kg GVM
    300kg or less towball weight less 220kg GVM
    350kg or less towball weight less 290kg GVM

    The 200kg is built it as standard: Note that the posted reductions don’t match the actual weight, they are graduated.

    Edit: don’t take my word for this, check with the relevant authorities.
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