Shopping for a GU.

[mudski]

Don't rule out the ZD's. Despite the problems with some, there are still a lot more that haven't blown up. I have a ZD in a 2002 Elgrand 4x4 and did a lot of research into the problem. A decent catch can to keep oil out of the inlet tract is 90% of the solution. Adjust the turbo to limit max boost, especially if a larger exhaust is fitted as the turbo will spool quicker and overshoot. Also I run a bluetooth consult scanner and NDS1 app on android tablet to monitor various ECU parameters.
Besides if he really wants to experience the fourby bug he has to spend half his time under the bonnet.

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Yes you are somewhat correct but for someone who is on a budget, and after their first 4by, I wouldn't be taking the risk. Unless they are full aware of the chances and are prepare to deal with what may happen. Yeah the ZD is a bloody good little motor, I had one. They drive well, tow o.k and are pretty good on fuel. There's just too many risks for a first time buyer in my opinion. If the buyer is set on a GU, and diesel, I would go the slower 2.8. These have their own share of issues, what 4by doesn't, but they are less costly. I think cracking heads was one issue. IF he were to buy a RD28, the first thing I would do is remove and change over the harmonic balancer bolt, washer and key ways. Regardless of the condition. These are prone to letting go and destroying the crank.

[Turtle_au]

Yes you are somewhat correct but for someone who is on a budget, and after their first 4by, I wouldn't be taking the risk. Unless they are full aware of the chances and are prepare to deal with what may happen. Yeah the ZD is a bloody good little motor, I had one. They drive well, tow o.k and are pretty good on fuel. There's just too many risks for a first time buyer in my opinion. If the buyer is set on a GU, and diesel, I would go the slower 2.8. These have their own share of issues, what 4by doesn't, but they are less costly. I think cracking heads was one issue. IF he were to buy a RD28, the first thing I would do is remove and change over the harmonic balancer bolt, washer and key ways. Regardless of the condition. These are prone to letting go and destroying the crank.

Or be lucky and find a ZD with known history and mods already done. Thats where buying from club members can be useful.

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[mudski]

Or be lucky and find a ZD with known history and mods already done. Thats where buying from club members can be useful.

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Yeah I bought my ZD, rebuilt. It had done 70k on the new motor when I bought it. Every possible mod was fitted straight away. 150k later the injector pump went, so I pulled the motor out. The head was removed, only to find number four piston was cracked and ready to let go.

[mudnut]

It is a risk, buying any used vehicle, but the ZD is too highly strung anyway.

[Sir Roofy]

get a yota GU,s are to frisky for a learner

[mudski]

get a yota GU,s are to frisky for a learner

Blasphemy!!!!! Wash your mouth out!

Craig there is plenty of 3Ltrs going around with 350plus on them. Yeah the 3Ltr is a risk, but maybe its more heard of because there is literally one 3ltr per head in OZ. Lol. Theres bucket loads of them. So your gonna hear more horror stories naturally. But yeah I still thinks its a bit of a risk. Only if it had a very new motor in it I would consider one.

[Sir Roofy]

Blasphemy!!!!! Wash your mouth out!

Craig there is plenty of 3Ltrs going around with 350plus on them. Yeah the 3Ltr is a risk, but maybe its more heard of because there is literally one 3ltr per head in OZ. Lol. Theres bucket loads of them. So your gonna hear more horror stories naturally. But yeah I still thinks its a bit of a risk. Only if it had a very new motor in it I would consider one.

All true but he's on a tight budget and I know what that is like

[Clunk]

If it were me and I realise it isn't but if it was.............. then I'd be looking at a rather nice GQ TD42 or get a nice TB42E for aroind 5-6k and keep the rest of the money for fuel and mods........ I miss my auto TB42E

[Yeti's Beast]

Blasphemy!!!!! Wash your mouth out!

Craig there is plenty of 3Ltrs going around with 350plus on them. Yeah the 3Ltr is a risk, but maybe its more heard of because there is literally one 3ltr per head in OZ. Lol. Theres bucket loads of them. So your gonna hear more horror stories naturally. But yeah I still thinks its a bit of a risk. Only if it had a very new motor in it I would consider one.

Totally agree, our Patrol is pushing 360k and never been touched besides it's first new clutch 20k ago
Admittedly I got mine cheap off my sister for $5k but it's pulled a 17.6 van around oz and done countless trips from Adelaide and Melb (hence the high K's)
All second hand cars are a risk and even new ones ( won't talk about my Triton)
I'm worried about doing any engine mods because it's gone this far without a problem.
Best advise is drive several brands and buy one he is comfortable in that's unmolested and has a history.
I loved my 100 series V8 petrol, best car to drive and great on the sand, unfortunately I don't own a service station and it was costing too much to run 500k to and from work each week


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[mudnut]

Yes it is the luck of the draw, but the ZD30 is such a temperamental beast. I will let him know that a Q with a TD42 is within his budget. Cheers Blokes.