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28th May 2019, 10:02 AM
#1
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Was going to put 35s on but unsure
I was wanting 35s on and I was just going to risk being caught,buy paying a fine and having to chang equipment and less braking is one thing, but what I did'nt think of is the leagal implications of causing the death of someone and being charged or having to pay heafty medical bills, so I know people just chance that it will not happen to them but knowing my luck it might happen to me so what are peoples thoughts ?
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28th May 2019 10:02 AM
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28th May 2019, 10:16 AM
#2
If you're worried about it then just don't do it. You've answered your own question I think.
As far as I'm concerned bigger tyres have 2 benefits only, 1) they look good, 2) they give more clearance. Some people may dispute point 1.
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28th May 2019, 10:42 AM
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Plenty of folk do put bigger tyres on, often combined with illegal lifts, but the insurance companies know that. If you get unlucky & have an accident you can bet that tyre size (& lift height) will be something which comes under scrutiny as a simple matter of routine. If the insurance company say "your bigger tyres contributed to the accident (& they most likely will) it will be up to you to try to prove different. This alone could cost thousands & fail. But this amount would pale into insignificance if you have to spend the rest of your life paying for someones death or permanent disability.
Another aspect is that whilst the extra ground clearance gained from bigger tyres is tempting, & useful in rocky country, if used in wet & muddy conditions is IMHO a selfish & antisocial thing to do. It simply ends up making deeper ruts which anyone with legal tyres cannot manage.
Having a set of bigger tyres, carried & fitted at the off road venue is probably the most sensible solution, but a real pain in the proverbial, so many just fit them when heading off on a 4wd outing & drive extra cautiously whilst on their way to the off road venue to mitigate the risk. But no-one plans to have an accident. Having them fitted permanently just to look 'tough' is foolish in my book. If a 4wd injured or killed anyone I love you can be sure I'd be looking to see if they had illegal mods which potentially affected braking or stability.
I don't expect this view to be shared by all & some may argue that it's possible to be safe, maintaining adequate braking & stability, whilst having these mods. Regardless of this they still run the legal risk, not of being caught, but of what happens to their lives if things do go pear shaped.
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28th May 2019, 12:24 PM
#4
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Originally Posted by
Cuppa
Plenty of folk do put bigger tyres on, often combined with illegal lifts, but the insurance companies know that. If you get unlucky & have an accident you can bet that tyre size (& lift height) will be something which comes under scrutiny as a simple matter of routine. If the insurance company say "your bigger tyres contributed to the accident (& they most likely will) it will be up to you to try to prove different. This alone could cost thousands & fail. But this amount would pale into insignificance if you have to spend the rest of your life paying for someones death or permanent disability.
Another aspect is that whilst the extra ground clearance gained from bigger tyres is tempting, & useful in rocky country, if used in wet & muddy conditions is IMHO a selfish & antisocial thing to do. It simply ends up making deeper ruts which anyone with legal tyres cannot manage.
Having a set of bigger tyres, carried & fitted at the off road venue is probably the most sensible solution, but a real pain in the proverbial, so many just fit them when heading off on a 4wd outing & drive extra cautiously whilst on their way to the off road venue to mitigate the risk. But no-one plans to have an accident. Having them fitted permanently just to look 'tough' is foolish in my book. If a 4wd injured or killed anyone I love you can be sure I'd be looking to see if they had illegal mods which potentially affected braking or stability.
I don't expect this view to be shared by all & some may argue that it's possible to be safe, maintaining adequate braking & stability, whilst having these mods. Regardless of this they still run the legal risk, not of being caught, but of what happens to their lives if things do go pear shaped.
Thanks for taking the time for a good relpy, this why I asked for opinions popular or not
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28th May 2019, 08:49 PM
#5
Legendary
Remeber dargo @AB. First thing the boys in blue look at, even before you stop.
That was the last time I had 35s on. Not worth it' been a daily.
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28th May 2019, 09:05 PM
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Was going to put 35s on but unsure
I have a legal stock Gq Ute work car and a Wagon fun Gq with 35” tyres and a decent 2” OME lift, gu diffs and brakes. Hands down my wagon is a much safer vehicle to drive but rules are rules unfortunately.
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29th May 2019, 07:28 PM
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Patrol God
You might get away with 315s not 100% sure though
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29th May 2019, 07:35 PM
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The 747
Originally Posted by
threedogs
You might get away with 315s not 100% sure though
Nah they are just the same as 35s.
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31st May 2019, 08:29 AM
#9
IMO, in reality, a good set of 33" will get you most places that 35" will go, and still be legal, and also save you a bit of money.
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31st May 2019, 05:28 PM
#10
Expert
Originally Posted by
bazzaboy
IMO, in reality, a good set of 33" will get you most places that 35" will go, and still be legal, and also save you a bit of money.
I was reading that a set of 33s with lockers are as good as a set of 35s and then it would be leagal
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