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    Quote Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD View Post
    Y62 in a blink mate.
    Hahaha what happened to "nah live axles the only way, stuff this IFS/IRS shit, Y62 god how ugly! Gone are the days of proper 4b's! Traction control?? I'd rather cut my arm off and drive properly!"

    Not at you MR but just a general observation of how attitudes change over time.

    Yeah I'd like a Y62 too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben-e-boy View Post
    I think that would be the gas IMHO. It isnt very good for the motor in the long run.
    Just curious as to why you think that ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasnart View Post
    Hahaha what happened to "nah live axles the only way, stuff this IFS/IRS shit, Y62 god how ugly! Gone are the days of proper 4b's! Traction control?? I'd rather cut my arm off and drive properly!"

    Not at you MR but just a general observation of how attitudes change over time.

    Yeah I'd like a Y62 too!

    Lol I think technology has advanced so much now you dont need to rely on wheel articulation and massive tyres and diff locks as much.

    Now with traction control, rock crawl, KDSS suspension etc . the car does all the work.

    Though seeing IFS 4wds hanging one wheel in the air like a T rex dinosaurs short arms just looks wrong. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by katwoman View Post
    Just curious as to why you think that ?


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    Bear in mind I have quite a bit of difficulty explaining the tech so it is understandable when it comes to cetane value, which relates to its auto ignition point and that kind of stuff. But, basically (very basic) it is the way the gas ignites as opposed to diesel fuel.
    It will ignite before the diesel does, which is pre ignition. Difficult to hear on a td because it is a noisy rattly engine anyway. But it does pre ignite and will end up causing damage in the long run. A td is still very robust and will shrug off the abuse for quite some time, right up until it shits itself.
    Yes there are dedicated diesel gas engines, they are usually low revving and incredibly robust industrial/heavy duty engines and can with withstand those conditions.

    From a personal experience and what made me research more into it is when I cracked 3 pistons on my old td and was getting rebuild quotes and all that crap.
    I had 4 separate companies (3 of which I had never done any business what so ever, the 4th was just the mob who built my intercooler) all asked why I was rebuilding,
    Me, ' I cracked 3 three pistons'
    Them, 'Ah you run Diesel gas'
    Me, 'no just stupid amounts of boost'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben-e-boy View Post
    I think that would be the gas IMHO. It isnt very good for the motor in the long run.
    I would also agree.

    It can be done but its usually by an oem who has the backup and engineers to design a system that works correctly. The biggest thing with a system like this is the control side of. The only way to do it is to put the gas in after ignition has ocurred. This will change depending on load and rpm etc. You are simply not going to get this precisely controlled for $4000. Water methanol is pretty good though.

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    Agree... bulk LPG (or Petrol) fumigation in a Diesel via the charge air is not ideal.
    Cheaper and gives more power etc, yes, but has its drawbacks when it comes to control.

    Injected fumigation gives optimum control but at a price and increased complexity.
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    Ok, well time will tell I guess. Mines done about 100,000 since gas was fitted by PO.


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