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    Which timber

    Ok I've got the Bench that the previous owner made. As you can see it's well due for some fixing. I was just going to replace the front, but as I took off some of the boards I see that alot of the timber is rotten, mainly where there as been water sitting. So looks like I'm going to knock it all down and Start again.

    Had a quick look at Bunnings and I confessed myself. All these different types of structural, treated and untreated.... I know that I don't need structural.

    But What do I need here. @rusty_nail

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    Most wood will rot if left where moisture can collect and not evaporate easily.

    If it's going to be exposed to the elements, I'd go with treated. Otherwise if it's indoors I'd probably just pick the size that best suits your application either treated or untreated (depending on what's available in said size). Don't use particleboard if you want it to last.

    I work with a lot of treated pine, cheap and easy to work with. Anything outdoors gets thoroughly lathered in paint or staining oil.
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    That looks like Oregan. is the new bench going outside too? what is it for? how big is it going to be? These questions will really help in directing you down the right path mate.
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    Check out the photo comp thread for the bench in my shed. It is all pine with yellowtongue flooring across the top & for the under shelf. It is not subject to any significant moisture so I just used untreated pine. You don't need hardwood. After moving from the farm where most of the timber I used was either cypress milled on the property of from a local timber mill not far away in the bush I was gobsmacked at the cost to build the bench - this was probably 5 years ago now & cost $600! Mind you the bench is 6m long. It is 600mm deep, but if I were doing it again I'd make it deeper - 900mm - using the full width of the yellow tongue sheets.

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    It's about 7 metres long and 400mm wide. Yes it's going outside and will be used for sitting on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD View Post
    That looks like Oregan. is the new bench going outside too? what is it for? how big is it going to be? These questions will really help in directing you down the right path mate.
    I reckon it looks like untreated pine unless oregon can be bought with that 'milled' finish, (which I've never seen). Given the way it has rotted out, I would definitely use treated pine, but would also do what I could to sort the moisture problem before putting a new bench in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jay see View Post
    It's about 7 metres long and 400mm wide. Yes it's going outside and will be used for sitting on.
    Treated pine definitely, & no yellow tongue!

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    I think the previous owner did a bit around here with whatever he got his hands on. It's weird because somes things are wow that's great, then there's why would he do that for.

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    Treated pine mate and get some Linseed oil or similar and give it a good lathering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuppa View Post
    I reckon it looks like untreated pine unless oregon can be bought with that 'milled' finish, (which I've never seen). Given the way it has rotted out, I would definitely use treated pine, but would also do what I could to sort the moisture problem before putting a new bench in.
    Nah i reckon that is Oregon for sure mate the grain is way to stringy for Pine, pine is a broader grain. That second pic is classic Oregon rot. When you say "Milled" do you mean Dressed? or rough sawn? either way i have seen plenty of each but rough sawn for the most part. If old mate used second hand timbers that had come from a house demo or something either may have been sourced. in the 1970s and 1980s Oregon was Prolific and bloody everywhere for everything. Definitely saw plenty fo dressed Oregon in my day.

    Quote Originally Posted by jay see View Post
    It's about 7 metres long and 400mm wide. Yes it's going outside and will be used for sitting on.

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    So if this is going to be a Bench to sit on then i would be giving Treated Pine a Wide berth. There is a reason why it has been outlawed for playgrounds....... Retaining walls and garden edges only gents. If you have to touch it then dont touch it.....

    I would consider 3 Redgum Sleepers end for end x 2 wide as the bench top to sit on. It will weather well and if you seal it it will last a life time. Consider running a router along the edges to take a bull nose off every edge then it is soft on the edges and will serve you well. Looks pretty nice too. Cheap enough and gets it done. Or just Buzz the aris off each edge with your plane or buzzer if you have one.
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