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    5th gear went Pop

    So my 5th gear went pop this morning. Going around a bend and suddenly lost all drive with a grinding/crunching noise. Shifted straight down to 4th and away I went. Bugger #*#!

    Anyway mine is a '01 TD42t with about 220k km on the clock.

    Rang a few places and waiting on some quotes for a repair.

    Fluidrive (transmission shop) here quoted about $2k for rebuild with new bearings seals and shaft/gear.

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    $2700 drive in/out with brand new genuine upgraded gearbox.

    I have found a 2nd hand gearbox for $550 ('03 GU 130k km) no warranty on ebay.

    Most others I've seen at wreckers are around $800-$1300 and unknown history's but 3 months warranty.

    The second hand ones I need to add labour costs or my own time and patience, sweat and blood.

    I'm starting to think the brand new one might not be too bad value.

    Anyone else had theirs repaired or replaced recently?
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    I bought a secondhand box through a local business. After towing a van to the wreckers, it developed a whine in a cluster bearing,(1st, 2nd, 3rd and 5th). 4th is perfect. The box was only in my Patrol for 25000 before the noise started. I believe I should have at least bought a reco box.

    The one on Ebay, may not have the upgraded 5th gear, so you might end up in the exact same situation in no time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sooty_10 View Post
    snip... So my 5th gear went pop this morning. Going around a bend and suddenly lost all drive with a grinding/crunching noise. Shifted straight down to 4th and away I went. Bugger #*#!

    Anyway mine is a '01 TD42t with about 220k km on the clock.


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    Known problem with that era Gearbox... the spline on 5th was shorter than the later jobbies.

    For $2700 drive in/drive out I'd go the new box for sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by mudnut View Post
    I bought a secondhand box through a local business. After towing a van to the wreckers, it developed a whine in a cluster bearing,(1st, 2nd, 3rd and 5th). 4th is perfect. The box was only in my Patrol for 25000 before the noise started. I believe I should have at least bought a reco box.

    The one on Ebay, may not have the upgraded 5th gear, so you might end up in the exact same situation in no time.
    What is the mileage on your troll? What is the mileage the gearbox said no more?

    Mine's still turning at around 350k. Not much van pulling, but have done enough heavy trailer pulling though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dom14 View Post
    What is the mileage on your troll? What is the mileage the gearbox said no more?

    Mine's still turning at around 350k. Not much van pulling, but have done enough heavy trailer pulling though.
    Different boxes, Cobber
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    I was making the point that buying secondhand gearboxes can be a waste of money, but buying reco or new is the way to go. The original gear box in mine (FS5R30A) only did 270,000km and died while towing my light camper trailer up and over Mt Cole. The vehicle has only done 310,000 km and I am up for another gearbox when I can get the money.

    The FS5R50A (GQ) FS5R50B (GU) are definitely tougher, heavier gearboxes. As ET posted, a new one with the upgraded splines would be bullet proof. If funds were limited a reco unit with the upgrade would be the second best option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the evil twin View Post
    Different boxes, Cobber
    Yep, I was wondering about the reason why some RB30 boxes crap themselves around 250-300k mark or even fair bit earlier, while the others go on to hit 400k+. I'm not particularly gentle with mine, but can't say I've been thrashing it a fair bit on off-road tracks.
    Then again, @mudnut isn't thrashing his one either. I think it has lot to do with previous lives our trolls lived before we get them secondhand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sooty_10 View Post

    $2700 drive in/out with brand new genuine upgraded gearbox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudnut View Post
    I was making the point that buying secondhand gearboxes can be a waste of money, but buying reco or new is the way to go. The original gear box in mine (FS5R30A) only did 270,000km and died while towing my light camper trailer up and over Mt Cole. The vehicle has only done 310,000 km and I am up for another gearbox when I can get the money.

    The FS5R50A (GQ) FS5R50B (GU) are definitely tougher, heavier gearboxes. As ET posted, a new one with the upgraded splines would bullet proof. If funds were limited a reco unit with the upgrade would be the second best option.

    No argument about the above comment on buying second hand RB30 gearboxes.
    You never know how good or bad a gearbox that is put on bench for sale.
    You take the seller's word and 90% of the time end up getting screwed.

    Tell me bit more about the RB30 Patrol gearbox upgrade options. I didn't know that I can have choices there.

    I know it won't be long before mine fails. I've been thinking about storing a used gearbox, and they are fairly cheap.
    I could've picked up a 'good' one from a bloke I know who said it was removed as a good running one.
    I didn't go for it 'cos of reluctance to store heavy stuff in the limited garage space at that time.

    I've heard it is the synchros of the RB30 box that fails, rather than actual gear spline wear, but of course that all depends on the driving style and terrain of the owner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sooty_10 View Post

    $2700 drive in/out with brand new genuine upgraded gearbox.

    I have found a 2nd hand gearbox for $550 ('03 GU 130k km) no warranty on ebay.

    Most others I've seen at wreckers are around $800-$1300 and unknown history's but 3 months warranty.

    The second hand ones I need to add labour costs or my own time and patience, sweat and blood.

    I'm starting to think the brand new one might not be too bad value.

    Anyone else had theirs repaired or replaced recently?
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    Comparing to the rebuild price above, the brand new price is not bad at all.
    If you are going for the $550 one, make sure it's your elbow grease, 'cos labour cost would be too much of a risk
    for a used one without any warranties.
    If the wreckers want 1k for a one with only three month warranty, then for the peace of mind, you might as well spend the extra grand or more and get a rebuilt or a new one.
    RB30, some 2-3 inch lift auxiliary LPG tanks
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