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18th September 2020, 12:21 AM
#471
Hardcore
@PeeBee regarding the welder, not sure but if you paid via PayPal you may be able to escalate. I think you have 180 days.
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18th September 2020 12:21 AM
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18th September 2020, 06:19 AM
#472
The 747
Originally Posted by
PeeBee
Update - I finally got to the bottom of my Rossi 130amp MIG and its weld issues. After many emails back and forth the supplier finally admitted the welder was not as advertised however its my responsibility to see thru the information and do my own research - Yep, what a process. the welder is specifically sold for metal, mild steel, stainless, gas or gasless. Problem is the description is basically a cut and paste from other welders as the distributor is simply a wholesaler, which explains why it took so long to get to the bottom of the issue.
To weld MS and SS with a MIG you need a DC welder. This unit is AC. AC is good only for Aluminum, gas or gasless. The distributor has wiped his hands of the issue, its mine now. The welder was purchased off EBAY from EDISONS. Don't trust this seller. Won't take it back, won't refund the cost and won't even entertain a return and upgrade to a welder that actually will do what the advert says. Very pissed off, but there is nowhere to go to appeal.
At least it confirms it wasn't operator error - this time!!
Escalate it with ebay, if no luck there then escalate with PayPal.
EBay generally react in a couple of days, PayPal take a couple of months.
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18th September 2020, 06:39 AM
#473
Daily Lurker
Originally Posted by
Winnie
Escalate it with ebay, if no luck there then escalate with PayPal.
EBay generally react in a couple of days, PayPal take a couple of months.
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That's right, but I have never had a case not go my way. If the seller refuses to respond to your PayPal case, eventually PayPal will just automatically return the money to you.
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18th September 2020, 09:13 AM
#474
Originally Posted by
rusty_nail
That's right, but I have never had a case not go my way. If the seller refuses to respond to your PayPal case, eventually PayPal will just automatically return the money to you.
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Thanks guys, I am dead in the water. Unfortunately, working a FIFO roster, I never even opened thebox for 12 months and it was purchased in Nov 2018. Its been used for exactly 1.5 kg of gas and 10ft of gasless wire. I am resigned to either sticking it back under the bench or put it om Gumtree. I guess I could have a crack at aluminium welding - that would be a new one for me! Still disappointing though. Looking at a CIG 200amp unit now
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18th September 2020, 05:48 PM
#475
Expert
Originally Posted by
PeeBee
Update - I finally got to the bottom of my Rossi 130amp MIG and its weld issues. After many emails back and forth the supplier finally admitted the welder was not as advertised however its my responsibility to see thru the information and do my own research - Yep, what a process. the welder is specifically sold for metal, mild steel, stainless, gas or gasless. Problem is the description is basically a cut and paste from other welders as the distributor is simply a wholesaler, which explains why it took so long to get to the bottom of the issue.
To weld MS and SS with a MIG you need a DC welder. This unit is AC. AC is good only for Aluminum, gas or gasless. The distributor has wiped his hands of the issue, its mine now. The welder was purchased off EBAY from EDISONS. Don't trust this seller. Won't take it back, won't refund the cost and won't even entertain a return and upgrade to a welder that actually will do what the advert says. Very pissed off, but there is nowhere to go to appeal.
At least it confirms it wasn't operator error - this time!!
Ho Lee Fuk... the seller has no idea what he is selling. Bet he has gimp masks, herbal tea strainers, 10000000000000 lumen light bars,
and butt plugs for sale in his store too...if your link is accurate what you have there is a cheap inverter welder. It is DC. So it should weld ferrous metal and staino.
What exactly is the issue? My short lived rossi had shitful wire feed issues. It welded like a karrnt. Buy the Bossweld mst180 from bunnings for 500, if it dont work bring it back for a refund and feel free to abuse the fuk out of me.
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18th September 2020, 07:31 PM
#476
Originally Posted by
Mickhead
Ho Lee Fuk... the seller has no idea what he is selling. Bet he has gimp masks, herbal tea strainers, 10000000000000 lumen light bars,
and butt plugs for sale in his store too...if your link is accurate what you have there is a cheap inverter welder. It is DC. So it should weld ferrous metal and staino.
What exactly is the issue? My short lived rossi had shitful wire feed issues. It welded like a karrnt. Buy the Bossweld mst180 from bunnings for 500, if it dont work bring it back for a refund and feel free to abuse the fuk out of me.
Yeah disappointing and they are clueless. Its definitely AC. I was having trouble with the gasless wire, so decided to try with gas. Read 'somewhere in their paperwork the polarity need to be changed from DCEN to DCEP so after a number of messages to them finally goy a procedure, did the change, which is a swap around of two cables, but takes 45 minutes to by the time you get covers on and off, work out the orientation etc - did not make a cracker of a difference. I went back to them for help and they confirmed the machine is supplied set up for gas, change ir back, still no difference, went back again, no, it comes set up for gasless, changed it back, no difference, then after final contact, told i had bought an AC welder and it wont weld mild steel or stainless, only aluminum. Changing the cables wont make a difference on AC but will on DC - yeah i understand that!!! The advert says mild and stainless, nothing about aluminum. Its a cheapie I know, but I only had a job of maybe 5ft of weld to do and am generally competent enough on my two arc welders. Just pissed at the misleading advertising then the FU its your.
I will have a look at the Bunnings unit as you suggest, just want something that i can pick up after an extended break from it and not have to dive into a manual of find out some fine print issue i 'should' have known. Anyway, suggest people stay away from edison's unless they are buying something like a hammer or a screwdriver - anything more technical and they are lost.
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18th September 2020, 07:44 PM
#477
Daily Lurker
Just asked my professional welder neighbour, he says it's definitely a DC welder but will not weld ally.
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18th September 2020, 07:53 PM
#478
Originally Posted by
rusty_nail
Just asked my professional welder neighbour, he says it's definitely a DC welder but will not weld ally.
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Nic, here is the link , scroll down to the additional info section, states it welds all metals including copper??? but nothing about aluminum and clearly states its an AC welder, down the bottom on LH side. Right now I am rapidly losing interest in it. You couldn't weld two jam donuts together with it, its rubbish.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/142478732660
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18th September 2020, 09:35 PM
#479
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19th September 2020, 11:44 AM
#480
Patrol Guru
Originally Posted by
PeeBee
Nic, here is the link , scroll down to the additional info section, states it welds all metals including copper??? but nothing about aluminum and clearly states its an AC welder, down the bottom on LH side. Right now I am rapidly losing interest in it. You couldn't weld two jam donuts together with it, its rubbish.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/142478732660
If it's still advertised incorrectly you could raise it with ACCC as misleading you.
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