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14th June 2018, 08:58 PM
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Its got too much junk on it, yes, its heavy, won't say on here because you just don't know who is reading this. PM sent Ben
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14th June 2018 08:58 PM
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14th June 2018, 08:58 PM
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Breadmaker Shaker
Fair call @Cuppa . So you got a GVM upgrade but not a GCM upgrade. Why then this news that no GCM allowable in future? Previously if you had a GVM upgrade did that automatically mean a GCM increase also, or is this latest news something that has always just been??
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14th June 2018, 09:02 PM
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Travelling Podologist
Originally Posted by
Plasnart
Fair call @
Cuppa . So you got a GVM upgrade but not a GCM upgrade. Why then this news that no GCM allowable in future? Previously if you had a GVM upgrade did that automatically mean a GCM increase also, or is this latest news something that has always just been??
As I said, I believe there were some 'anomalies' where some vehicles (not Patrols) *did* get an automatic GCM increase with a GVM upgrade & these new rules are about stopping that.
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14th June 2018, 09:08 PM
#14
It was explained to me when my GVM upgrade was done that the GCM remained the same, so yes, less towing capacity, no doubt due to braking I suspect on vehicle and trailer etc. Plus, what worries me more is the power of the tow vehicle being able to control a zig zag moment and accelerate out of it - I wonder about the elevated towing capacities of the new utes out there and where the weight is sitting for stability.
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14th June 2018, 09:10 PM
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Travelling Podologist
Originally Posted by
PeeBee
Its got too much junk on it, yes, its heavy.
It's either within it's GVM or it isn't. If you had a GVM upgraded I don't think you could get an upgrade which would only leave 100kg towing capacity. In my car for that to be the case the GVM upgrade would have had to be from 3400kg to 5800kg & that was never going to be allowed. The GCM remains at 5900kg with the GVM at 3900kg.
2006 4.2TDi ex-Telstra Remote area Camper. 425w roof mounted solar, 360Ah Aux batts, BCDC1240, Onboard hot & cold pressurised & filtered water, (25 litre hot water calorifier), ARB fridge, ARB freezer, Built in kitchen, heaps of easy access storage, 240v, 3” Genie exhaust + dynotune, 2” lift, 3900kg GVM upgrade, second glovebox, ROH Blaktrak steel wheels, Bridgestone D697's (now Toyo RT's), Redarc gauges/pillarpod, Hema HX-1, Icom 450 CB, dual rear view cameras, Onboard 30amp Victron mains charger, second glovebox, dual seat conversion, TPMS, Boss PX7 onboard air with 9 litre tank, 350w inverter, Steel bullbar, Harrop Eaton diff lock (front), Warn winch, Snorkel, Dual spares , 160 litre water tank, 180 litre fuel in two tanks (approx 1200km range) 2010 Tvan Tanami. (incl another 70 litre water tank) with matching wheels/tyres (& 3rd spare)
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14th June 2018, 09:11 PM
#16
Originally Posted by
Plasnart
Edit: Got everything under the sun in that beast! @
PeeBee FYI
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14th June 2018, 09:18 PM
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Breadmaker Shaker
Originally Posted by
Cuppa
As I said, I believe there were some 'anomalies' where some vehicles (not Patrols) *did* get an automatic GCM increase with a GVM upgrade & these new rules are about stopping that.
It's all a bit much for me to comprehend tonight that some vehicles (but not patrols) got automatic GCM upgrades. If not a patrol then what vehicle did? If smaller vehicles were getting automatic GCM upgrades after GVM upgrades then this new rule makes sense.
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14th June 2018, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by
Cuppa
It's either within it's GVM or it isn't. If you had a GVM upgraded I don't think you could get an upgrade which would only leave 100kg towing capacity. In my car for that to be the case the GVM upgrade would have had to be from 3400kg to 5800kg & that was never going to be allowed. The GCM remains at 5900kg with the GVM at 3900kg.
Cuppa, just joking re the limit, as @AB pointed out I am probably in the negative anyway!!!! The limiting factor is the gazetted load capacity of the factory front and rear axle assemblies, unless you do a certified diff strengthening activity which I think lovells do with their upgrade? I did not go that path with mine, however will add the kit more to keep the housing straighter for longer.
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14th June 2018, 09:25 PM
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Travelling Podologist
Originally Posted by
Plasnart
It's all a bit much for me to comprehend tonight that some vehicles (but not patrols) got automatic GCM upgrades. If not a patrol then what vehicle did? If smaller vehicles were getting automatic GCM upgrades after GVM upgrades then this new rule makes sense.
Not sure that I fully understand it Plassy, but I *think* it may have been something to do federal approvals vs State approvals. If you look at this link you can see that Patrols only got State approval ie. legal to drive anywhere in Oz with upgraded GVM but can only be sold with upgraded GVM in the state where the upgrade was approved. If selling interstate it requires a new approval. Folk with 'cruisers were getting upgraded GCM's.
2006 4.2TDi ex-Telstra Remote area Camper. 425w roof mounted solar, 360Ah Aux batts, BCDC1240, Onboard hot & cold pressurised & filtered water, (25 litre hot water calorifier), ARB fridge, ARB freezer, Built in kitchen, heaps of easy access storage, 240v, 3” Genie exhaust + dynotune, 2” lift, 3900kg GVM upgrade, second glovebox, ROH Blaktrak steel wheels, Bridgestone D697's (now Toyo RT's), Redarc gauges/pillarpod, Hema HX-1, Icom 450 CB, dual rear view cameras, Onboard 30amp Victron mains charger, second glovebox, dual seat conversion, TPMS, Boss PX7 onboard air with 9 litre tank, 350w inverter, Steel bullbar, Harrop Eaton diff lock (front), Warn winch, Snorkel, Dual spares , 160 litre water tank, 180 litre fuel in two tanks (approx 1200km range) 2010 Tvan Tanami. (incl another 70 litre water tank) with matching wheels/tyres (& 3rd spare)
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14th June 2018, 09:55 PM
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Patrol God
Have a gander at the prices of the big Chevs, Fords etc. Do you think the heavier caravans on the market will loose a lot of their resale value very quickly?
My advice is: not to follow my advice.
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